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1. if evolution accounts for all of mind and mental objects, there is no reason to think it is true, as all states of mind are geared to reproduction or biological will, not intelligible truth
1. evolution is as empirically true as it can be as per science

therefore at least one of the following is true:

>The mind did not evolve through biological evolutionary means, while what we observe in the worlds did

or

>Reality, logic, mind determines what reality is

>> No.11169734

>>11169728
>makes claim that is untrue
therefore, either
>bullshit
>more bullshit

anon, go back to erowid or /reddit/420. your shit is not appropriate for this board.

>> No.11169738

>>11169734
what did i say thats not true

>> No.11169745
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11169745

>the absolute state of /sci/

>> No.11169746

>>11169738
your point 1. well since you are probably stoned your second point is also point 1. but i am talking about your first point 1. nothing in evolution dictates that all states of mind are geared toward reproduction or "biological will" (whatever the fuck that means). you stating this as fact is classic "i insert a fallacy on line 1 and run with it" stoner woo shill shit

>> No.11169748

>>11169728
>if evolution accounts for all of mind and mental objects, there is no reason to think it is true, as all states of mind are geared to reproduction or biological will, not intelligible truth
>no reason to think it is true
no reason to think anything is true. But that's fine, you can still avoid truth claims and seek practically useful claims instead, which is in line with the evolutionary imperative.
Funny how useful mathematics and logic are even though they pay lots of tribute to the idea of 'truth'

>> No.11169749

>as all states of mind are geared to reproduction or biological will, not intelligible truth
The assumption is that the ability to discern intelligible truth and advantageous reproduction or survival behaviors are at odds with each other. They are typically not.

>> No.11169750

>>11169746
so you agree with my first conclusion

>> No.11169757

>>11169750
no, i agree with none of your conclusions, especially not your first one because you clearly can't count past one.

evolution is real and reality doesn't care about your subjective experience. lrn2not smoke weed

>> No.11169760

>>11169748
>no reason to think anything is true
every square has 4 sides is true, I know this because i am aware of the concept square (which is different then its definition)
>The assumption is that the ability to discern intelligible truth and advantageous reproduction or survival behaviors are at odds with each other. They are typically not.
Im not saying they are distinct, im saying there MUST be no reason to think they are

>> No.11169766

>>11169749
>The assumption is that the ability to discern intelligible truth and advantageous reproduction or survival behaviors are at odds with each other. They are typically not.
Im not saying they are distinct, im saying there MUST be no reason to think they arent*

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11169939

>>11169728
>pic unrelated
so THIS guy is/was regarded as an actual intellectual by the aut-right?

>> No.11170080

>>11169728
>continental philosophy
well if your continent were filled with 6 feet tall albinos then your philosophy wouldn't be exactly the same as a heavily tanned 5 feet man continent.
Continental algebra sounds good

What was he talking about ?

>> No.11170106

>>11170080
Dawkins is about as dumb as Neil Degrass Tyson. Don't mind him.

>> No.11170209

>>11169728
I’m a fundamentalist Christians who believes in a 6 day creation 6-10000 years ago
Science is a good tool when used properly. By means of hypothesis and testing said.

>> No.11170211

>>11169728
Only marxist historical materialism is a science. In fact, dialectical materialism is more legitimate than bourgeois science.

>> No.11170223

>>11169766
>making an unsubstantiated claim based on what you feel like

Stay classy /sci/

>> No.11170413

>>11169728
Because philosophy asks about the nature and purpose of human existence, which can be answered from various different perspectives you dumb moron

>> No.11170427

>>11169728
>What kind of a Search for Truth is region-specific
nothing like a retarded boomer to tell you how his world view is unique and obviously superior to everyone else's

>> No.11170459

>>11169728
We live in europe, we got fanta with different color and same label across multiiple states.

>> No.11170572

>>11169728
Ouch, this is philosophy, fuck of to /x/...

We are exact, you are just well, definedd.

>> No.11170705

>>11169728
>if evolution accounts for all of mind and mental objects, there is no reason to think it is true, as all states of mind are geared to reproduction or biological will, not intelligible truth
Evolution is not geared towards reproduction, only natural selection is. Biological will does not exist. A process not being "geared" towards a specific result does not mean that result cannot occur.

>> No.11170782

based Dawkins shitting on philosofsgs

>> No.11171108

Man, no wonder /sci/ is so ignorants about phil, if your pop-sci idols say such retarded shit on social media.