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The quality of /sci/ falled of a Clif and is absolute garbage what the hell happened here

>> No.11156582

>>11156576
it’s not low quality right now, just mediocre. low quality is when /x/ and /pol/ raid and post nonstop schizo and alt-right shit. good quality is when we have high-level threads. we have neither right now so we are at a perfectly acceptable happy medium

>> No.11156583

>>11156576
shills and groups of dumb cocksuckers. this chan is over

>> No.11156588
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>>11156576
4/10 posts are trying to scientifically prove the simulation theory


also nice clickbait


really nice clickbate

>> No.11156592

>>11156588
i honestly don’t see much simulationtard stuff right now

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>>11156576
>another roastie post

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>>11156592

>> No.11156597
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>>11156593

>> No.11156599

>>11156593
sadly, this

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>1 thread allowed to talk about the state of the board
I like the guy arguing against the existence of waves.

>> No.11156617

>>11156613
you mean winkytard hoaxfag? that guy is cancer. he needs le permaban.

names for him:
>le winkler
>the hoaxler
>hoaxy VanWinkler
>winkington VanHoaxler

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Where are the best grades thread I need to bully comp sci fags

>> No.11156629

>>11156582
>t. triggered redditard

>> No.11156633

>>11156629
ah okay, thanks for that, now i realize i was triggered when i wrote that. okay, good to know, never knew what it was like before writing that post and seeing your great response

>> No.11156637

>>11156633
No problem, glad to help :)

>> No.11156647

it's the libtards

>> No.11156650

>>11156576
It is because you guys keep calling me retarded until my feelings get hurt. Then I go mess around in /diy/.

>> No.11156656

>>11156650
anon, don’t get discouraged. /sci/bros are constantly besieged by trolls and the like, you just need to sage and ignore and things will become hunky dory

>> No.11156660

>>11156656
Yeah, but they're almost right.

>> No.11156671

>>11156593
this.
based thot patrol.

>> No.11156705

/pol/ happened

>> No.11156710

>>11156576
Am I going to have to break out the "list of basic facts" post again?

>> No.11156717

>>11156705
Stop killing the white race kiddo.
We're saving civilization here. Without pol the west would have collapsed and started learning (((science)))

>> No.11156718

>>11156576
Probably cicada back then. Brought the normies. Although /sci/ was pretty much retarded before that. There was a tripfag whose cock everybody sucked, although he mainly spouted bullshit about relativistic mass etc. That surely became better.

>> No.11156722 [DELETED] 

>>11156617
There's another guy in that thread who's even more retarded.

>> No.11156723

>>11156617
There's another guy in that thread who's so retarded, even hoaxfag ignores him.

>> No.11156729
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our house is burning.. we need to start eating bugs right away.. capitalism is unsustainable

please listen to the qatari oil prince owned al jizzera

>> No.11156731

>>11156729
Capitalism in its current form appears unsustainable to me.

>> No.11156735

>>11156731
Then you must be a nazi or a communist. Both undesirables

>> No.11156751

>>11156731
git gud

>> No.11156753

>>11156735
Your absolutism proves that you're not thinking clearly. I'm not a communist or a Nazi, but I'm 100% sure I won't be able to have a reasonable conversation with you. Im bought into the system, but the idea that every corporation must have 10% more profit every year, forever is just retarded. Cancelling projects that made money but didn't instantly make billions of dollars is retarded. Basing everything on the short sighted wants of the shareholders is retarded. We have to have some long term thinking here.

>> No.11156757

>>11156753
dont argue with /pol/ bro, their time is worth far less than yours.

>> No.11156774

>>11156753
>Im bought into the system, but the idea that every corporation must have 10% more profit every year, forever is just retarded. Cancelling projects that made money but didn't instantly make billions of dollars is retarded. Basing everything on the short sighted wants of the shareholders is retarded.

hey faggot the answer to this problem is decentralization, NOT MORE SOCIALIST SHIT REGULATORY CENTRALIZATION, which fucking grows the wallstreet cancer as only megacorps can afford to pay off the regulatory fees and political bribes it takes to operate a business without falling victim to their monopolistic predatory regulations.

DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH YOU FUCKING RETARD.. IF WE ALL HAD 3D PRINTERS AND DIDNT HAVE TO WAIT FOR PATENTS TO EXPIRE THESE PET PROJECTS COULD GO ON INDEFENITLEY BUT NOOOOOOO UNLESS YOU ARE PUBLICCLY TRADED YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EXIST

FUCKING CONFIRMED FOR NEVER HAVING OWNED A BUSINESS YOU FUCKING INSUFFERBALE FUCKING JEWISH FAGGOT NIGGER


JOHN CARMACK KEPT HIS SPACE COMPANY ALIVE 10 YEARS EVEN THOUGH IT WAS BARELY ABLE TO BREAK EVEN AND LOST A LOT OF MONEY

MORE FREEDOM MEANS MORE PEOPLE TRYING SHIT OUT AND BEING ABLE TO CROWDFUND COLLECTIVELY BENEFICIAL PROJECTS

IF YOU THINK DEMOCRACY CAN SUSTAIN PROJECTS YOU SHOULD ALSO BELIEVE THAT CROWDFUNDING CAN DO IT AND RIGHT NOW THE GOVERNMENTS ARE HAMPERING CROWDFUNDING BY CRACKING DOWN ON CRYPTOCURRENCY

IF SOMETHING IS BENEFICIAL IT CAN FIND A WAY TO PROFIT

MANY BUSINESSES HANG ON IN PERPETUM WITHOUT GROWTH YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>> No.11156776

>>11156774
lol.

>> No.11156777

>>11156757
HEY FUCK YOU NIGGER I ACTUALLY HAVE A JOB UNLIKE YOU FUCKING LAZY FUCKING ACADEMIC CHEATING FUCKING BUGMAN

>> No.11156778

>>11156776
LAUGH IT UP AS YOU VOTE YOUR FREDOMS AWAY YOU FUCKING SHEEP NPC FUCK YOU DO WHAT YOU ARE FUCKING TOLD HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA

>> No.11156779

>>11156777
>>11156778
lol.

>> No.11156788

>>11156774
>centralization = socialism
top kek

>> No.11156791

>>11156753
The thing is, capitalism DOESN'T 'require' infinite growth. At its core, capitalism is just a method of arranging finite resources into the configuration that best meets human preferences. Like any economic system. In short, Capitalism is a value maximizer. The best one we know of, for sure. If humans value growth, it will maximize growth, if humans value pleasure, it will maximize pleasure. if humans value equality, then yes it will maximize equality.

Its very true that capitalism seeks growth because for various reasons our current society (nay, all of human society for millenia, at this point) puts a high value on growth. Growth (in terms of wealth and productivity) is pretty much the only way to improve everyone's standing, that is their standard of living, without sacrificing somebody else's.

You disagree? Well show me a system that somehow overcomes the basic limitations of the universe. we know that eventually we're going to run out of resources. The Second Law of Thermodynamics guarantees this.

>>11156788
who decides who gets what in socialism?? the politburo is less than the 0.0001%

>> No.11156792

>>11156774
>>11156777
>>11156778
And you've shown your true colors. Holy shit bro

>> No.11156793

2016 and /pol/-oid influx, ruined every board

>> No.11156795

>>11156792
have a sense of humor you piece of shit

>> No.11156798

>>11156791
>politburo
Sure, but not everything that's centralized is socialist. Otherwise we'd live in a socialist world.

>> No.11156799

>>11156795
>I was just pretending to be retarded
lol

>> No.11156800

the irony of you guys criticizing capitalism while reading this on the most powerful means of production the human race has ever seen, the computer, and it's markets that made it affordable

capitalism provide me the opportunity to purchase the second hand workstation grade computer that i am typing this on and i use as my dev machine.. i paid exactly 50 dollars for it and it wont be scrapped for a few more years at worst.. that is the definition of sustainability. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Meanwhile many new chip fabs are being built as only protptyping facilities and the biggest ones will either shrink or grow as the market dictates.

>> No.11156801

>>11156795
what was funny about any of that nonsense lol

>> No.11156804

>>11156800
Capitalism is great, it just needs to be adjusted to optimize it more. And make it not run away from us.

>> No.11156807

>>11156791
Saved to my copypasta folder.
>The Second Law of Thermodynamics guarantees this.
Kekked hard at this passage. Thanks anon

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>>11156799
i have low blood sugar

>>11156798
>not everything that's centralized is socialist
Ok but more regulatory and tax pressure selects for more centralization in a market.. why is it harder to be an entrepreneur in Sweden than in Mexico?? In Mexico everyone is selling something but in Sweden you are required to have the fucking 10 permits and everyone just fucking isolates themselves instead and hopes their children will go to fucking jew college or whatever instead of actually learning to produce and sell.

>> No.11156810

>>11156804
>Capitalism is great, it just needs to be adjusted to optimize it more.
youre not qualified as a mere mortal.. everytime some arrogant piece of shit tries this they fail and create a worse problem, like a fucking twilight zone episode.. just look at venzuelan price controls and the spiraling cost of living in nordic countries

>> No.11156811

>>11156801
hey bro don't judge my creative process.. you are fucking nigger faggot jew retard

>> No.11156813

>>11156811
ha...ha?

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>>11156807
haha laugh it up as you beg for other men to control you

>> No.11156822

>>11156814
is that tom of finland? incredibly based

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>>11156814
>sadistic-nazi-master.jpg
Folder dump?

>> No.11156825

Of course, the fundamental fallacy here is in attributing economic value to the finite physical resources themselves. Economies can grow infinitely, because value is a function of subjective utility, not of physical matter.

This should be pretty obvious: people trade in services and experiences just as much as physical goods, and they pay premiums for the same physical goods when they're accompanied by intangibles that they value.

>> No.11156833

>>11156810
free trade is the most optimal system of distributing resources that human nature is capable of abiding by. It would be great if political leaders could consciously make the most efficient use of scarce resources but history has shown over and over that we are not capable of this

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>>11156833
Free trade works well when in a peaceful, racially/ethnically homogeneous society. As soon as differing racial groups are introduced, they will begin to subvert the system through ingroup preference. The solution, of course, is a monolithic state, internally free-market and externally protectionist, run for and by the White race, and the White race alone.

>> No.11156851

>>11156810
Yeah I'm not talking about a managed economy, I'm talking about actually enforcing anti Monopoly laws and not letting corporations have more power than people we voted for, who are supposed to be creating beneficial laws. Instead what happens is corporations write the laws, and the people we vote for get paid to vote for those laws. It's not going to have long term growth for anyone except a few individuals. Free trade and the ability to ply your trade and make a profit complements democracy. What's happening right now is not free trade.

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>>11156850
you are not anarcho capitalist

you want men to control you

you are npc

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>>11156851
>anti Monopoly laws
which ironically create monopolies (see AT&T and microsoft)

>not letting corporations have more power than people we voted for
so a mob of angry mobility scooting walmart shopping mcdonalds eating pop music listening retards is better than a smart person that started a corporation? You can avoid corporations and compete with them but once the population uses the monopoly of violence you are fucked.

>reee the government is controlled by corporations so we should give the government more money and power and all our guns
the only reason google has power is becuase they control the government.. giving the government more socialist power is giving google more power

>beneficial laws
MISNOMER

>complements democracy
jews manipulating a retarded mob.. see the french and russian revolutions

>What's happening right now is not free trade.
no shit fuckign nigger

>> No.11156862

>>11156854
Why? A White protectionist zero-immigration ethnostate is the closest the modern world is likely to come to the only real anarcho-capitalist society in history: medieval Iceland.

>> No.11156868

>>11156597
Bblllrrrrppppffgjoeab AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.11156884

>>11156731
Cause its being rapped sideways with a pogostick at the moment buddy. Its all fucked right now and changing it will only cause a whiplash effect on all lives.

>> No.11156894

/pol/ happened

>> No.11156905

>>11156705
well thank god you weren't here to witness old /b/

>> No.11156920

>>11156857
>Give up our guns
Not what what I said at all, you keep adding shit to what I say to support your argument.

>> No.11156922

>>11156576
I think the how many trolls are on X it directly influences the science interested (yet lazy) people to come here. And some of the trolls follow.

>> No.11156961

>>11156920
same principle.. giving more power and money to government which is obviously controlled by megacorps is the dumbest retarded idea ever

you cant uncorrupt a government.. that is a fact and europe is just as fucked up or even more fucked up and state enterprise encourages cronyism even more

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>>11156922
no its becuase there are dumb libtards here like reddit so it's my duty to clean it up and take out the trash like on /lgbt/

>> No.11156967

>>11156576
>falled
Obviously you never even went to college. Why are you posting here, retard?

>> No.11157143

>>11156576
>hat the hell happened here

/pol invasion

>> No.11157145

>>11156576

so why in physics it is assumed that small objects behave like the macro-scale ones? (like electron bounces etc) because we have no other clue (I guess now we have).

How come macro order (well, it depends what is order to you) comes with micro chaos?

Is really the world granular (quantized)? Why it is so?

>> No.11157152

>>11157145
youre gay

>> No.11157167

>>11156656
doesn't sage not work on this board?

>> No.11157170

>>11156731
Oh don't worry. If 2008 told us anything it's that it will keep on chugging along and everyone just forgets. A part of me wants to believe it will eventually collapse under its own weight, but I'm beginning to believe Fukuyama's assessment of neoliberalism. The developed world is in limbo.

>> No.11157172

>>11157167
sage works on every board

>> No.11157174

>>11157172
wow. Somebody memed me into thinking that sage doesn't work on /sci/ so I haven't been doing it for like a year.

>> No.11157182

>>11156576
>what the hell happened here

The same thing that happened to the rest of the site, /pol/. The mentally ill don't just stay in /pol/, they infect all other boards on this site.

>> No.11157184

>>11157174
That was a good one.

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>>11157182
dont be such a libtard then and we wont have to talk about it

>> No.11157226

>>11157174
lol. sage btw

>> No.11157296

>>11156576
>absolute garbage
Like op posting tits without sauce

>> No.11157303

>capitalism v socialism
absolute state of this board

>> No.11157321

>>11156576
Based image

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>>11157296
The internet is full of literally tens, if not hundreds, if not thousands of thousands of naked and half-naked whores.
And you chose, for some reason, to pair-bond with this one?

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>>11157303
dont be such a libtard then and it will stop

>> No.11157406

>>11157355
So people should abandon thier beliefs because you are annoying?
Nah, a better solution would be for you to either learn the basics of civil discourse or fuck off and never return.

>> No.11157421

gazongas

>> No.11157481

>>11157406
Politically incorrect people are only politically incorrect because they don't know how to be polite. They can't say what they want to say without being rude. So they call politeness a bad thing

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>>11156576
HAHA HOLY HSIT

GATEKEEPING

ON 4CHAN

ON /SCI/ NO LESS

MY FUCKING SIDES! HOLY SHIT! ThIS HAS BEEN THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER MANUALLY TYPED OUT IN MLIFE! HA!

>> No.11157485

>>11156576
I mean COME ON!

You cunts could ONLY ever ultimately end up regurgitating DIGITIZED scientific knowledge.

Are you all just one big incestual lookup dictionary?

>Well, don't know about anyone else, but my family is.

>> No.11157488

>>11156613
11 hands

that guy

holy shit

what a fucking legend

13 daughters, whtever, give him what he fucking ANYHTING that falls ouat of his mouth or fingertips holy shit.

I so hope some celebrity or whatever is reading this.

wake up you fucking retards. nobody cares about science.

>Professor that can't stop the cult following of time

>> No.11157494

This has been, quite literally, the best thread I've ever read.

Holy shit, if 4chan was sex I'd probably be in fucking hospital right now.

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>>11157481
>scheming about how youre going to empower the energy cartel is considered polite by libtards

the funny thing about libtards is they think theyre being polite while they are talking about using violence against you

itd be like you invite a heroin addict to a party and then at the party you start talking about how the police need more money so they can round up more heroin addicts and dealers and put them in cages and then you get made at the heroin addict for arguing with you about why drugs should be legal

imagine being this unaware, sad!

>> No.11157566

>>11157406
>civil discourse
youre the one that is making posts about how the government should use violence against people... so dont be surprised when someone #resists you

>> No.11157622

>>11157563
>comparing yourself to a heroin addict
What's heartbreaking is that except for the heroin thing this would a logical and convincing argument for a perfectly normal position.

>> No.11158046

>>11156905
i was around in the days of old /b/, they at least kept to their own board