/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11154477]

Can someone answer - are people getting lazier with each passing generation or is this just a comment that previous generations always make about the forthcoming generation? And will the singularity make us lazier than ever?

[Anonymous No.11154507]

>>11154477
Easier dopamine access = lazier.
Black holes already exist, and they have no effect on laziness.

[Anonymous No.11154509]

>>11154477
When all you know is your village, everything you do has a big impact on the 'world'. This makes happy people that feel in control.
Today everything is global, the mental world has become the earth itself. It's very hard for a single human to have a real impact. This decreases motivation.

[Anonymous No.11154512]

>>11154477
>And will the singularity make us lazier than ever?
Considering humanity will probably go extinct as a result, probably.

>But when all people have become useless, self-prop systems will find no advantage in taking care of anyone. The techies themselves insist that machines will soon surpass humans in intelligence. When that happens, people will be superfluous and natural selection will favor systems that eliminate them-if not abruptly, then in a series of stages so that the risk of rebellion will be minimized.
>Even though the technological world-system still needs large numbers of people for the present, there are now more superfluous humans than there have been in the past because technology has replaced people in many jobs and is making inroads even into occupations formerly thought to require human intelligence. Consequently, under the pressure of economic competition, the world's dominant self-prop systems are already allowing a certain degree of callousness to creep into their treatment of superfluous individuals. In the United States and Europe, pensions and other benefits for retired, disabled, unemployed, and other unproductive persons are being substantially reduced; at least in the U. S., poverty is increasing; and these facts may well indicate the general trend of the future, though there will doubtless be ups and downs.

[Anonymous No.11154515]

>>11154477
Quality of life has gone up continuously ever since the industrial revolution, making people need to work less and less while still getting the same (or better) standards.

So, in a way, people are lazier. But technology and societal advancements is probably the cause.

[Anonymous No.11154517]

>>11154515
>Quality of life has gone up continuously ever since the industrial revolution
Uncle Ted would say otherwise.

>The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

[Anonymous No.11154522]

>>11154477
You already asked this, faggot.

[Anonymous No.11154558]

>>11154517
None of that is measurable, objective data though. I want something like hours worked is decreasing etc....

>>11154522

No

[Anonymous No.11155743]

>>11154509
>It's very hard for a single human to have a real impact.
Its easier than ever since humans are lazier than ever.

[Anonymous No.11155778]

>>11154512
Regardless of whether we actually reach the singularity automation alone will force us as a species to reevaluate the value of human life. So far human worth has been determined by how useful you are, we're completely ok with people who aren't useful starving in the streets. When 75%+ of the population serves no purpose, we're either going to have to decide if human life has inherent value, or if 75% of people just shouldn't exist. And take action accordingly.

[Anonymous No.11156082]

>>11154558
>I want something like hours worked is decreasing etc....
People working less doesn't imply that they are any happier.