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Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:30:22 2019 No.11142116 [Reply] [Original]

Could there be a better language to understand the universe instead of Mathematics?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:31:33 2019 No.11142120 Tell me the rate at which the universe is expanding using math so I can verify whether or not this math thing is useful or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:33:00 2019 No.11142124 >>11142116 Well no, but mathematics as a discipline could be better if it were to employ the Lukasewicz notation. Especially in the way Lisp does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 01:56:27 2019 No.11142187 >>11142120 sorry but the concept of quantity is part of math and I do not believe in such bullshit so I cannot tell you the expansion rate...because rates don't exist, that's bull shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 02:01:38 2019 No.11142204 >>11142116 If there were we'd probably redefine the term "mathematics" to include it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 02:12:23 2019 No.11142222 >>11142124 No, polish notation is retarded. We should be using postfix notation, so [math]x f[/math] instead of [math]f(x)[/math]

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 13:11:55 2019 No.11143217 is the universe talking to you or why do you need a language to understand it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 13:18:45 2019 No.11143224 >>11142116 Yes. It's called Swahili.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 13:22:05 2019 No.11143233 >>11142187 Incredible.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 13:34:57 2019 No.11143259 >>11142116 >pee equals poo >therefore peepee poopoo Of course, math is literally retarded

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 13:46:43 2019 No.11143284

>>11142222
While we're at it, we should find a way to resolve the notational ambiguity between function application, multiplication (product of x and f), and concatenation (a single variable named "xf").
Otherwise we'll end up with things like [math]\sin^{-1}[/math].

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:29:56 2019 No.11143814 File: 45 KB, 460x369, this-thread-7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11142116 >Mathematics is a language

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 17:44:28 2019 No.11143848 I'm proud of you for not mentioning category theory, yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 18:16:58 2019 No.11143957 File: 848 KB, 1209x1600, F350AFB8-2DAB-4313-8295-C89A05CBD05E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11142116 >Durr...logic

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:11:03 2019 No.11144156 >>11142116 Yes. Its that language with the circles where we can see the past and future that the aliens taught us.

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 19:13:23 2019 No.11144168

>>11142116
Any language will have its issues. Many languages have different ways of doing mathematics or quantitative. Modern mathematics is one of our most universal languages of the era. It's utility and explaining phenomenon is as useful as the equations where they reflect reality. if there is something off an equation due to a missing term or influence that should be considered a could cause derivative work to also be incorrect.
really the only thing that's missing is a way of governing its use to force people to recalibrate claims every so often so that we don't go too far off track into the wrong direction explaining natural phenomenon

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 20:20:49 2019 No.11144419 File: 52 KB, 625x626, eab.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Astrology/Hermeticism

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:02:08 2019 No.11144515 File: 48 KB, 500x352, Bad_At_Math.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11142116 >Could there be a better language to understand the universe instead of Mathematics No.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:10:36 2019 No.11144529 You could use human languages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:40:53 2019 No.11144594 >>11143224 Urdu is better and only used by Doctors of Science. 𓆏

>>	~S/S\S~ Wed Nov 13 21:46:57 2019 No.11144604 >>11143217 I believe because some people enjoy being expressible everywhere, like some sort of crazed polyglot slut.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 13 21:51:42 2019 No.11144614 >>11142116 you mean.. a better mathematics?

~S/S\S~ Wed Nov 13 22:14:32 2019 No.11144646
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>>11144614
How much trust would you place into a purely mathematical-language? How much 'user engagement or trust' is ultimately required to control someone with a mathematical language or be controlled by it, regardless of how much 'awareness' the subject has of it?

>[math]\Phi vs \phi[/math]

Anonymous Wed Nov 13 22:17:59 2019 No.11144655
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>>11142116
I was talking to my Russian pal about chemistry. He was explaining something he didn't know how to say in English, but I could easily tell what he was talking about. Top shit.

~S/S\S~ Wed Nov 13 22:18:16 2019 No.11144656
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>>11144614
>>11144646
Personally I'd put my eternal/infinite trust in it, assuming all language users are willing to submit to semantic reduction arbitration at arbitrary injection points. Kind of like a 'melt of be melted' by logic, make EVERYTHING conjunctive!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 06:10:30 2019 No.11145591 File: 2.64 MB, 2560x1440, 2EB66E35-4FC8-46D3-BA1D-951908F2A141.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11144156 Yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 06:12:46 2019 No.11145596 >>11142116 French should be the universal language

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 12:14:42 2019 No.11146219 >>11145596 I'm okay with this

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 12:22:40 2019 No.11146241 Math is just English condensed into symbols.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 12:23:34 2019 No.11146244 >>11145591 what language?

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 13:05:12 2019 No.11146345 >>11144419 You know nothing of hermeticism, new ager.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 13:49:36 2019 No.11146458 >>11146244 >Its that language with the circles where we can see the past and future that the aliens taught us.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 21:38:21 2019 No.11147766 File: 21 KB, 220x321, 06CCCF2D-C9AB-4385-8CA9-5000811B36B2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] English retard You understand mathematics by its proxy to your foreign language anyway, mathematics is just a professional formal heuristic t. /lit/

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 14 21:39:21 2019 No.11147769 >>11147766 *native language

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 15 09:42:36 2019 No.11149007 Bump

Anonymous Fri Nov 15 09:58:17 2019 No.11149039

>>11142116
>>11142116
Mathematics as we know now? Sure, in fact i wouldnt be surprised if quantum gravity required a revolution mathematics to happen. However, whatever the new tools used to study the world are going to be, they will be added to mathematics and be studied by mathematicians, that is certain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 15 10:22:55 2019 No.11149073 OG sanskrit

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 15 10:32:05 2019 No.11149095 >>11142116 How do gorilla fags trigger /sci/ so much to get dozens of responses in any thread with a gorilla pic?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 15 15:30:09 2019 No.11149671 File: 86 KB, 500x500, sonic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11144419 that still boils down to math at its core, it is all math because God only "speaks" in numbers

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