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11133407 No.11133407 [Reply] [Original]

I'll start: quantum immortality is real. The various iterations of you are all connected and the weariness and loss of motivation as you age are the result of instances of yourself dying

>> No.11133422

>each time the trigger is pulled the universe splits in two versions to accommodate each outcome

prove it

>> No.11133426

>>11133422
No

>> No.11133438

>>11133426
Then you don't believe it's real.

>> No.11133441

>>11133438
I don't believe you're a straight man and i don't provide evidence to homosexuals.

>> No.11134785

>>11133422
It's more like for every single physical interaction that has a random components, the universe splits, or more accurately "blooms" into all the possible outcomes.
It's a cool idea, but really it's just cope, like the idea that when you die you go to heaven or some such bullshit.

>> No.11134850

>>11134785
That entire idea is stupid. What does QI do when taking entropy into account.

I need Sean Carrol to stop peddling his shit

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>>11133407

'The universe splits into two version to accommodate each outcome' is a very careless way of putting it. The picture that people like Sean Carroll have in mind is that there's only ever one universe with a wave functional existing on it spanning space and time, and one can trace 'paths' through that fog that seem to correlate with the trajectories of conscious observers.
The origin of all such paradoxes is that there does not seem to be a unique single path for each conscious observer, so it is not clear whether there's a multiplicity of experiences of the world for each individual.

>> No.11134938

>>11134850
>>11134785

See Brian Dennehy's post above there.

>> No.11134969

>>11133407
Whats dumb about this is you could argue Everytime you blink there was a chance the world ended and split you into an alternate version. This mental conjecture is the same as the " universe was created last Thursday"
All the data is copied, all the circumstances there same except one.
I guess it doesn't matter since we've been having this argument since Thursday

>> No.11134990

>>11133407
>pic
>>>/sci-fi/

>> No.11135007

>>11133407
age is due to the fact we're moving in one direction in time which is affected by entropy.

>> No.11135015

>>11133407
So when I reach ~120 years old how do I keep going?

>> No.11135054

>>11133407
Why hasn't everyone reached the same level of depression then? There are infinite (you)s dying every planck frame

>> No.11135182

>>11133407
>quantum immortality
>>>/x/

>> No.11135543

>>11134935
>people like Sean Carroll
a literal male feminist sjw that always uses the pronoun "she" in hypothetical thought experiments

opinion discarded

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>>11133407
>Redpills /sci/ isn't ready to accept
Hitler did nothing wrong.

>> No.11135564

We die an infinite amount of times every moment.

>> No.11136101

nigger, if infinite universes is real then everybody in some reality will dodge every bullet and live to 120. not that it matters in this one since op will die alone at 45 and won't be found until the neighbors smell something funny.

>> No.11136113

>>11133407
ITT: nerds who can't cope with the fact that religion is dead and have to seek refuge by creating a new one that conform to science.

Just accept that you will be dead forever.

>> No.11136116

>>11136113
this. quantum physics getting this spiritual touch is cancer and needs to stop

>> No.11136126

So, basically in this quantum shooting range, how one does sustain his motivation?

>> No.11136138

>>11133422
I honestly wouldn't be surprised reality works like a quadtree in a video game. That is, under normal circumstances there are zero possible outcomes in any given situation, but reality has its own way of "calculating" which outcomes are likely to happen based on the factors involved.

For example, we are all 100% capable of walking though walls, so long as reality has determined that we are not close enough to touch one. In any given situation, the universe recursively divides itself into four quadrants until it finds your gay ass in order to see which forces can act upon you at that precise moment.

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Isn't it pathetic how these IFUCKINGLOVESCIENCE retards like to mock people with religious believes? Only to end up creating their own shitty religion and establishing their unquestionable figures of authority (le black science man, hawkings, feynman).

>> No.11136166

QI makes perfect sense if you actually understand QM.

It's actually quite scary though because in the branch you are immortal you end up experiencing incredible suffering for much longer than the average human life.

In regards to the "immortality" I think you'd actually only live to 100-200 years biologically (there can only be so many miracles of cell senescence not occurring) unless kept alive somehow with technology/mind copying.

>> No.11136488

>>11135054
Proportions still exist. As time progresses it climbs to 100% of your versions having died, so you are weary and tired.

>> No.11136490

>>11136126
Try to avoid circumstances in which you dying is a possibility.

Just sitting still: 99.999999% of possibilities involve you all surviving.

Blasting coke on a night out: 95% chance of survival.

>> No.11136491

>>11133422
>prove it
The best way to prove it is to shoot at the Copenhagen interpretation retards.

>> No.11136528

>>11133422
>prove it
you triggered another more universes
one where anon answers you proof
and another where everyone just point at you and laughs
and infinite other universes with all possibilities are realized
Stop doing this!

>> No.11136551

>>11133407
>>11134785
>>11134935
>>11134969
>>11136113
Everything after death is unknowable and any theorising regarding it is unsubstantiated speculation and just as unlikely as any of the other infinite possible ideas about it. Even the ”u just stop being lmao” meme is just as unlikely as any other, as the concept of an ”end” is inherently conceptual and not proven to exist in a tangible form. You are all autistic and homosexual for even attempting the discussion of such an unproductive subject.

>> No.11136571

>>11136551
Holy based.
No post can top this.

>> No.11136592

>>11133422
>>11133407
woah. this is a great explanation as to why so many uneducated people think shcrodingers paradox is actually smart or even vaguely related to reality.

"The universe accomodates to your triggering"

this generations mindset in a nutshell.

I think that once all baby boomers are dead there will be a huge crisis isnce no one knows anything about responsibility.

One born in 1950s janitor has more responsibility and manliness atributes than a whole group of born in 1990 army generals

>> No.11136594

>>11133407

Following Quantum Immortality to its conclusion, I'm left with one thought...
won't we just end up an immortal. Since our consciousness will always glow to the universe in which we survive.

Effectively making us the only being left in each of our universe?

I like that.
Somewhere out there you and our baby boy still live. Somewhere out there I held onto you a bit longer and that drunk cunt misses you and nate.
Somewhere out there I'm happy...
But I'm here, in my universe.
Ready to live forever.
I'd hang myself, to you I'd die. To me I'd survive on...and I will.
Forever

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11136604

http://www.shodor.org/interactivate/activities/Coin/

im in 2^1000 realities now

>> No.11136656

>>11136592
ok boomer

>> No.11136739

>>11133438
OP is clearly a retard, but you don't do a good job of hiding your own retardation.
beliefs don't require proof. they are dogmatic.

>> No.11136746

>>11136551
>>11136571
this
religitards btfo

>> No.11136757

>>11136746
No dumbass, everyone btfo'd

>> No.11136766

>>11136757
wrong

>> No.11136768

>>11136757
no. not the smart people like me that already knew that. fuck its not hard.

>> No.11136773

>>11136766
>>11136768
Congrats, you don't have an opinion on it then other than "I don't know" which is the right stance. Anyone with their hat in the ring is wrong.

>> No.11137104

>>11133407
I'll believe it if I live past age 200

>> No.11137111

>>11133407
>implying you had a choice of whether or not to pull the trigger
>implying the outcome of the trigger pull was random
>>>/x/

>>11136604
>implying the outcome of the coin flip was random

>> No.11137127

>>11137111
>[thing] isnt random
just replace it with some meme like radioactive decay of a single atom or a tunneling event

>> No.11137149

>>11134785
>really it's just cope
I hate you zoomers so much.

>> No.11137194

>>11137149
I'm a 28 year old boomer. My cope is having a successful career and fun hobbies, not pathetically hoping I did better in some other quantum world or whatever the fuck.

>> No.11137201

>>11137127
>implying randomness exists

>> No.11137203

>>11137194
I hate you for using "cope" like that. I don't care about your stance on quantum pop sci trash.

>> No.11137209

>>11137201
elaborate

>> No.11137214

>>11137194
>28
> "I'm a boomer"

You're a millennial

>> No.11137220

>>11137214
ok zoomer

>> No.11137242

>>11137203
It's a perfectly cromulent use of the word. Get over yourself.

>> No.11137249

So where the fuck would the energy come from to accommodate a whole new universe from one decision?

If this was the case we could literally mine another universe for power/resources then.

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>>11133407
So what if that version of me gets to live forever? I'm the version which is gonna die.

>> No.11137746

>>11137209
There is literally nothing random in life
There was always only possible outcome.
The idea of branching possibilities is therefore invalid

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>>11133407
If you can't interact with the reality in which you are alive or took a different path, why does it matter? Or are you implying that your consciousness shifts to a different body when you die?

>> No.11137786

>>11136488
How do you reach 100% death if you are immortal and there is always a branch created in which you don't die?

>> No.11137801

>>11136166
>In regards to the "immortality" I think you'd actually only live to 100-200 years biologically
Lobsters don't conventionally age and there exist jelly fish that can age forward and backwards in order to persist indefinitely.

>It's actually quite scary though because in the branch you are immortal you end up experiencing incredible suffering for much longer than the average human life.
If humans can only exist and thrive under very specific circumstances otherwise they die, how does only one branch end up being immortal, and why would they suffer longer than the average human life?

>> No.11138180

>>11136592
>Wow what a nice picture
>FUUUCKING ZOOOMERS
Btfo to /pol/ boomer

>> No.11138859

>>11133407
there are multiple possibilities but the quantum wave function collapses on observation. you are stupid dumbass

>> No.11139024

>>11137778
That second option seems both more plausible and, yes as you've pointed out, more consequential. I'm almost convinced now that it is impossible to die. Think of how unlikely it is that you are aware of anything right now. And yet you are. That just tells me that awareness can't be avoided, no matter how unlikely it is for you to be aware. As soon as you die, you'll be right back here.

>> No.11139165

>>11136594
Sad if true but i suspect this is some english college faggot writing a sad short story.

>> No.11139167

>>11137786
It has to be possible. So if there is some universe where you have an amazing mutation or a technology is invented then some minute percentage will keep going.

>> No.11139168 [DELETED] 

>>11138859
>copencuck
>calls some a stupid dumbass

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>>11136138

>> No.11139182

>>11139024

what about when you pass out (faint) or go into surgery? what then, faggot? you aren't aware of anything. people who cease brain function then are revived, they are practically dead. go back to /pol/, christ-tard.

>> No.11139771

I hope I inhabit a universe where I die repeatedly forever

>> No.11139780

>>11136551
this

>> No.11139787

>>11135015
Be in the universe where you don't die

>> No.11139813

>>11133407
>Redpills /sci/ isn't ready to accept

String theory is correct. And so is Copenhagen interpretation of QM.

>> No.11139821

>>11133407
>each time the trigger is pulled the universe splits in two versions to accommodate each outcome

wouldn't the universe constantly because many things are happening? or is there an if statement that only allows life threatening situations to cause a split?

>> No.11140440

>>11133422
its a theory brainlet

>> No.11141237

>>11139182
You didn't understand what I said at all. Your reading Christian connotations into what I wrote is entirely on you.