/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11118798]

How much better will life on Earth be with over 1000ppm of CO2 in the atmosphere? Will the dinosaurs come back if we create the appropriate atmosphere?
>tfw i probably won't even be around to see CO2 levels over 600ppm
feels bad man

[Anonymous No.11118808]

>>11118798
Earth would probably be covered in jungles, and deserts would reduce in size dramatically.
Growing fruits and vegetables would be africa-tier easy everywhere.
Molecular assemblor would have an easier time printing things out of carbon.

There's literally no downside in rising atmospheric CO2 as high as possible.

[Anonymous No.11118810]

>>11118798
There probably wont be any other humans alive either so dont feel left out.

[Anonymous No.11118846]

>>11118808
>There's literally no downside in rising atmospheric CO2 as high as possible.
Nutrient density of many crops goes down. Certain agricultural practices in certain areas will not be feasible anymore (especially those relying on single-event fertilization and -irrigation).
Ocean life close to surface will look a bit different in a few years.

[Anonymous No.11118855]

>>11118808
>as high as possible
[angry venus noises]

[Anonymous No.11118867]

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3548274/

>fig 2 shows the percentile scores on the nine scales at the three CO2 conditions (based on the raw scores shown in Table 2), with the percentile boundaries for five normative levels of performance: superior, very good, average, marginal, and dysfunctional. At 1,000 ppm CO2 relative to 600 ppm, percentile ranks were moderately diminished at most. However, at 2,500 ppm CO2, percentile ranks for five performance scales decreased to levels associated with marginal or dysfunctional performance.

The human race will be reduced to gibbering morons, as temperatures rise beyond what anything any existing flora or fauna has evolved to deal with virtually overnight. Crops will fail across the planet due to heat blight, and utter collapse of pollinator populations. First world countries below 49 degrees North will be reduced to eating bugs, if they're lucky. America will start world war 3 by attempting to seize the little remaining fertile land on the planet.

[Anonymous No.11118876]

>>11118798
>Ocean acidification
>Warming
>Dementia
>Potential long-term effects on human health
>Decrease in crop nutrients
Did I miss anything?

[Anonymous No.11118877]

I agree, global warming is good.

[Anonymous No.11118893]

>>11118876
>Did I miss anything?
yes, you left out "the sky is falling"

[Anonymous No.11118898]

>>11118893
different anon
seriously though, look up what 'life' was like during those periods, sulfuric acid oceans, acid rain and generally completely inhospitable to human life

[Anonymous No.11118906]

>>11118898
according to peer reviewed academic science, primates thrived on this planet 35 million years ago with 400% more carbon than is in the atmosphere today.

[Anonymous No.11118909]

>>11118906
humans, nigger. not your folk

[Anonymous No.11119462]

>>11118846
>nutrient density
Compensated by the absurd water efficiency and speed of growth.
>agricultural practices
FUCK THEM SANDNIGGERS
>ocean life
We're already aiming at jellyfish oceans, let's go balls deep and see what happens.

>>11118855
Not enough sunlight to become venus.
I like your spirit though !

[Anonymous No.11119496]

>>11119462
>Compensated by the absurd water efficiency and speed of growth.
Good luck with that when heat blight and pollinators die off making the vast majority of current agriculture completely impossible. You are also making huge assumptions about rainforests which are actually incredibly unlikely, in the past temperatures rose gradually over millennia, giving rainforests a chance to expand naturally, vastly increasing transpiration and therefore rainfall allowing the cycle to continue. We're doing the exact opposite now, rainforests are being destroyed instead making deserification far more likely.

[Anonymous No.11119509]

>>11119496
I agree with you that genociding subhumans to stop deforestation and afforesting is obviously the way to go, but you must understand that it's not feasible right now.
We need to wait for a global economic collapse to form genocidal governments.

In the meantime, let's use hydrocarbons as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.11119525]

>>11118798
you do understand that the planet went pretty hostile 300 million years ago?

[Anonymous No.11119526]

>>11119509
Actually as far as conspiracies go this is pretty reasonable, the US is pulling out of the Paris accords so they can use fossil fuels heavily to continue to expand their military as efficiently as possible, when their breadbaskets collapse the military industrial complex oligarchs will use it as justification to invade any country with cropland, while selling weapons to both sides, and further consolidating power from all the bloodshed.

[Anonymous No.11119589]

>>11118808
>Growing fruits and vegetables would be africa-tier
We'll all starve to death?
thaks CO2

[Anonymous No.11119604]

>>11118846
This, fuck the muh high CO2 is good mamay

[Anonymous No.11119614]

>>11118846
>Nutrient density of many crops goes down.
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.11119620]

>>11119589
Rhodesia.

[Anonymous No.11119690]

>>11118798
Just keep living in your basement. Don't vent and you are in an over 1000ppm of CO2 atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.11119706]

>>11118798
Cold shits.

[Anonymous No.11119818]

>>11118906
>we are identical to primates from 35 million years ago

[Anonymous No.11119848]

>>11119614
Are you retarded or just an American? Give plants more carbon, they make more sugar, while making roughly the same protein and micronutrients. That´s pretty basic chemical thinking.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S116103019900012X
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2486.2007.01511.x
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814612001574

[Anonymous No.11121665]

who cares, 36000ppm are deadly, i dont see how this couldnt be solved with bioengineered plants. This reminds me a lot of the time before the haber bosch process was invented and people said that the earth couldnt even sustain more than 1 bil people in the 1900s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process#Economic_and_environmental_aspects
Someone will come up with something because its so damn profitable.

[Anonymous No.11121670]

>>11119690
that's a man right?

[Anonymous No.11121671]

holy shit i love koch industries now

[Anonymous No.11121787]

>>11119818
wouldn't that be totally crazy and unpredictable if humanity, the most evolved and intelligent creature in the known universe, got wiped out by an infinitesimal increase of an inert gas in the atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.11121801]

>>11121787
No because it is entirely predictable. It's not an infinitesimal increase either but will likely end our 'intelligent' qualifier before ending our species
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/exclusive-elevated-co2-levels-directly-affect-human-cognition-new-harvard-study-shows-2748e7378941/amp/

[Anonymous No.11122856]

>>11121801
>new-harvard-study-shows
Just about the most disreputable academic institution on the planet these days

[Anonymous No.11123076]

>>11118798
>the planet had a completely different continental and oceanic configurations
>the ecosystem had developed in those steady states over millions of year
Pulling up reconstructions from deep time is irrelevant to current climate change especially when we know the steady state of the planet over the past million years where current live developed.

[Anonymous No.11123080]

>>11118808
I love how people post this bullshit with complete ignorance about the carbon cycle
Nevermind the consequences of a rapid climate upheaval due to CO2

[Anonymous No.11124471]

>>11123076
why exactly the past million years?
are you a million year old? if not then a million years ago isn't really relevant to your life.
my opinion is that the best CO2 levels are whatever it was yesterday, because yesterday is always the most recent day that i survived. if today's ppm of CO2 is infinitesimally more or less than yesterday thats fine too.
as far as long term samples go, probably any atmosphere primates can thrive in is good for me,
how long have primates been around? 80 million years or so?

[Anonymous No.11124480]

>>11124471
the entirety of humanity relies, on like 10 species of inbred plants which have barely existed as we know them for a few thousand years. Rapid shifts in climate like we're seeing now will have incalculable damage to agriculture. If you want to eat bugs, you'll get your chance when the midwest is a wasteland.

[Anonymous No.11124481]

guys get your sun glasses on because the future is oging to be bright af

[Anonymous No.11124693]

>>11124480
>[Present problem]
>[Provide solution to said problem in the same sentence]
>[Therefore the problem cannot be solved]
ur way of tinhking is intredasting

[Anonymous No.11124758]

>>11123080
If we cut aerosol emissions it'll double the impact anyway right

[Anonymous No.11125149]

>>11123080
>muh rapid climate upheaval
Is cult programming hard to live with?

[Anonymous No.11125155]

>>11123080
>rapid climate upheaval
Al Gore said we’d be dead by now.

[Anonymous No.11125340]

>>11125149
That graph has been refuted countless times already. Stop posting it.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2016/05/comparing-models-to-the-satellite-datasets/

>>11125155
>Al Gore said we’d be dead by now.
Al Gore isn't a climatologist.