Programming

[Anonymous No.11096661]

If you could go back in time and give yourself advice about programming, what would you say?

[Anonymous No.11096665]

>>11096661
Practice.

[Anonymous No.11096670]

>>11096665
where should I start?

[Anonymous No.11096676]

>>11096661
It's fun. But instead of making those gay video games for years and years, get into contests and get into Linux. Sysadmin your own slackware or whatever build, then start studying the kernel source code

[Anonymous No.11096682]

Beginner advice:

start with python, it's basically a toy compared to other languages. It is to other languages as making a Lego house is to making your own clay bricks and building a house from them.

In other languages, types are more important and they make a world of difference when considering memory efficiency.

[Anonymous No.11096691]

>>11096670
By starting with what interests you the most.

[Anonymous No.11096699]

I would say to myself to ask >>>/g/ for advice instead of /sci/

[Anonymous No.11096716]

>>11096661

R, python or both, I get tired of people using libreoffice calc or excel for everything that is not about to be published which creates problems in the long run.

[Anonymous No.11096752]

>>11096691
This is so true, it hurts. I always had issues sticking to practicing because I diverged from this strategy. What I would add to that is to think of the projects you make along the way as part of some evolving journey where there's always something you're doing that could be reevaluated and improved upon.

>>11096716
What kind of long term issues did you encounter?

[Anonymous No.11097135]

>>11096661
Don't become a trap.

[Anonymous No.11097154]

start with books and edx/coursera, do NOT visit 4chan, you'll be addicted despite not enjoying a minute of it, ignore meme sites like codeacademy

[Anonymous No.11097160]

>>11096682
that one who guy who takes his garbage to the dump in his personal vehicle and starts shrieking if it takes him 45 minutes to get there instead of 30.

[Anonymous No.11097215]

>>11096661
Monads can cause cancer in your neural linguistics if you use them for too long and don't talk outside of circle.

[Anonymous No.11097252]

>>11096682
Pro advice:
Start with C++ and work your way down until you're at python

[Anonymous No.11097270]

>>11097252
This is good advice. C or C++ really isn't any harder than python, and realistically everything you learn is written in them.

It's like asking: should I learn Esperanto because it's so simple and easy, or should I learn English? Obviously you go with English. So also you go with C or C++.

[Anonymous No.11097276]

>>11096661
>put on the programming socks and bend over

[Anonymous No.11097283]

>>11096682
>it's basically a toy
A toy that can do everything the "real" languages can do and more. Hence, if your toys are fun, stick with it, especially if there's virtually 0 incentive to switch since your "toy" is more reliable/robust than any other "real" language.

[Anonymous No.11097287]

>>11096661
dude, i would kill myself, to see if paradox and split of dimensions is real

[Anonymous No.11097409]

>>11097283
>being a python fanboy

[Anonymous No.11097427]

Programming sucks because it's the tech changes all the time. It's just a never ending hamster wheel.

Learn math instead.

[Anonymous No.11097431]

Programming sucks because the tech changes all the time. It's just a never ending hamster wheel.

Learn math instead.

[Anonymous No.11097434]

>>11096682
Shit advice. Start with C. And after learning about computer arquitecture if you really want to understand what you're doing.
Making people's first lang Python is a recipe for bad habits and disaster later on.

[Anonymous No.11097435]

>>11096661
You're gifted at it. Give up on being a doctor, being a programmer is funner

[Anonymous No.11097450]

>>11097431
C doesn't change. C will always be by your side. C is love.

[Anonymous No.11099074]

>>11097270
That's a really bad analogy.

[Anonymous No.11100616]

>>11096661
Keep playing video games, but cut that to 50%. Use the free time to build stuff. Read much and build much. Learn how to deal with your ego and shitty bosses. Otherwise good job.

[Anonymous No.11100657]

Actually make stuff. Don't just do practice problems

[Anonymous No.11100662]

fuck off back to /g/

[Anonymous No.11101324]

>>11096661
It’s actually a lot easier than you think it is. You’re a low IQ brainlet though. The sooner you accept this, the better you manage.

[Anonymous No.11101762]

"Development fucking sucks learn enough python to automate shit and re-enrol in physics"

[Anonymous No.11101767]

>>11099074
No it isn't. C is the British English and C++ the American English of the programming world. All serious business is conducted in them.

[Anonymous No.11101793]

>>11097252
I second this.

[Anonymous No.11101804]

Would there be any point in starting with Java?

[Anonymous No.11101814]

>>11096661

to just do it and get started, and to ask my school for learning resources

[Anonymous No.11101854]

>>11101804
Java is fine. It has some annoying features for a beginner (e.g. you have to start your first program with a class declaration and some keywords like "public static void") but if you can look past that it's not appreciably different, at the beginning levels, from other C-like languages. You could seamlessly switch to another one after a few weeks if you wanted to.

[Anonymous No.11101887]

>>11101854
What would be the ultimate benefit of starting with C rather than say Java?

[Anonymous No.11102010]

>>11101887
The syntax is a little more bare-bones in C: a "hello world" program is about half as long. And you might have an easier time getting the compiler to work. The differences are very minor at the beginner level, so if you have access to Java resources just give Java a try and see if you enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.11102051]

>>11102010
What I’m trying to get at is, would it be better to understand C first for my long term prospects as a programmer or does it not really matter?

[Anonymous No.11102055]

>>11100662
>tfw computer engineer

[Anonymous No.11102059]

>>11102051
Learn numerous languages. Start with C. C java and python are the most common so learn those.

[Anonymous No.11102069]

>>11096661
As I tell everyone - it doesn’t matter what language you learn first as long as it c-based. C-based languages dominate in nearly every field.

-web front end: Javascript
-web back end: php
-Windows: C#
-Mac: Obj-C
-Linux: C++(idk)
-embedded systems: C/C++

Once you learn one C-based language it’s fairly easy to pick up on another. But if you learn say, python or swift, you’ll pick up habits that don’t transition into any other language.

[Anonymous No.11102075]

>>11102059
>>11102069
Are there any highly regarded books for tackling C?

[Anonymous No.11102112]

>>11102075
Bump for this, or any beginners advice in general.

[Anonymous No.11102122]

>>11102075
>>11102112
Take CS50. It'll probably kick your ass but you'll learn a fuckton. Join the discord and slack for the course, and also the general programming discords. If you get stuck just ask and someone will help you. Read K&M if you want the text written by the dudes who more or less created the language. Good luck

[Anonymous No.11102135]

>>11102122
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.11102646]

above me: shit advice

good advice: start with how to design programs 2nd edition

[Anonymous No.11102696]

>>11102075
>>11102112
There is only one. Short, simple, to the point, and written by the creators of the language. Start here

[Anonymous No.11102710]

I would have told myself to read the sticky of the Dominican Santeria cultist forum’s science board before making an off-topic thread

[Anonymous No.11102728]

>>11101804
No, C is much faster to learn. Maybe today, maybe, but certainly not any advice I would have given myself.

[Anonymous No.11102754]

>>11096661
Learn about strings, integers and floats. Learn for <init>;<condition>;<iterator>. Learn how to google how to make the previously learnt techniques work