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[Anonymous No.11074679]

So as the first thread is closing in on the limit i guess it´s time for the follow up. '

The overall discussion is still extremely polarized but at least the insults have cooled down a bit. Please keep it professional.

Since the avaliable data on the Nimitz-Incident is now somewhat final, it would be interesting so see more information on the Roosevelt-Incident. We there have again pilots speaking out about their encounters with strange crafts which followed their carrier strike group for weeks. Keep it coming.


Commander David Fravor on the Fighter Pilot Podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvfRRgFHSRE&t


Commander David Fravor on Joe Rogan about his TicTac-Encounter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ&t


Forensic Analysis of the 2004 Nimtz Encounter:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WgURI1Fzrkij3utVvcPISGTyEUNX4Z0J/view


Presentation of the Forensic Analysis conducted by SCU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYHZnRfI8uA


Further Witness Testimonies of involved military personell:

Gary Voorhis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YhlvUg2yk4&t

Jason Turner: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnvA5WZ1QV4

Patrick Hughes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kycZgGc-Yec

Sean Cahill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv6fFvxH_bU

Kevin Day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2zRabdvKnw


The ATFLIR-System explained in context to the UAP-Footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbQdksSakE0


A overall view on the 2004 Nimitz Encounters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e9NoKp8EnE&t


Unindentified:

Episode 1: https://vimeo.com/339738815
Episode 2: https://vimeo.com/341138123
Episode 3: https://vimeo.com/342420806
Episode 4: https://vimeo.com/343840798
Episode 5: https://vimeo.com/345168156
Episode 6: https://vimeo.com/346567550


Less reliable civilian footage of small, high speed objects obtained with private drones.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiS3hVriaxLlOeMacepq8x3xyt_MWG-ci

[Anonymous No.11074693]

>>11074679
>Less reliable civilian footage of small, high speed objects obtained with private drones.
So birds and bugs.

[Anonymous No.11074700]

>>11074693

>So birds and bugs.

It´s actually weather ballons filled with swamp gas.

[Anonymous No.11074705]

>>11074693
Hello Mick West.
Have you ever satisfied a woman with your small debunker penis?

[Anonymous No.11074713]

>>11074693
It's actually ball lightning filled with weather baloons and swamp gas.

[Anonymous No.11074736]

>>11074705
>Have you ever satisfied a woman with your small debunker penis?

Keep it professional. Debunkers will always jump on the weakest link of a chain which is kind of a workable strategy.

I described the private footage as less/unreliable myself deliberately to not discredit the rest of the data and yet the first thing they focus on is that.

Enjoy the drone footage. Some of it quite beautiful.

[Anonymous No.11074740]

>>11074736
Mick, I know you are compensating for your small penis.

[Anonymous No.11074743]

>>11074740

Yeah!

[Anonymous No.11074759]

>>11074736
>I described the private footage as less/unreliable myself deliberately to not discredit the rest of the data
You described it as unreliable in an attempt to imply that the rest of your post is reliable.

[Anonymous No.11074775]

>>11074759

I guess we will continue the discussion of who is a more reliable source: Experienced aviators, Radar operators and aerospace engineers or some internet guy that needs to promote his profane explanations and his website because he financially relies on it.

[Anonymous No.11074781]

>>11074775
What do you mean by profane?
We aren't discussing religion.

[Anonymous No.11074788]

>>11074775
>The history channel doesn't profit off these stories and in no way is financially incentivized to claim it's aays.
Maybe we should have /sci/ threads about Ghost Hunters.

[Anonymous No.11074792]

>>11074788
The pilots and other military persoanel are not profiting, some of them are still active duty and are paying a price in terms of their reputation by going public with this stuff. The history channel is simply a vehicle, if you have an issue with someone making a profit, then you should join a communist commune or something. Our economy works entirely by profit, whether you want to spread bullshit or real information, you need to make a profit otherwise you will go bust.

[Anonymous No.11074794]

>>11074775
>MUH "EXPERTS" CAN'T BE WRONG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLyEO0jNt6M

[Anonymous No.11074796]

>>11074794

Probabilites.

[Anonymous No.11074798]

>>11074796
>MUH "EXPERTS" ARE PROBABLY RIGHT EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE PROVEN WRONG BY SIMPLE TRIG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.11074805]

>>11074798

Try harder.

[Anonymous No.11074817]

>>11074805
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOU LOSE RETARD.

[Anonymous No.11074827]

>>11074792
So why doesn't the history channel go through the math like this guy >>11074794 ?

[Anonymous No.11074837]

>>11074827

Maybe because there are pilots and radar operators confirming that these objects are unknown with extreme capabilities a ballon can not replicate?

How long will you be playing this "all human data is false" game without embarassing yourself completely?

[Anonymous No.11074847]

>>11074837
Please explain what capabilities the object in the video has that a balloon cannot replicate. Or just admit that "experts" can be tricked by apparent motion. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.11074856]

>>11074837
So what you're saying is that using the information given by the screen is less important than going "OOH that looks fast" and not understanding what parallax is.

[Anonymous No.11074863]

>>11074788
>that ghost hunters episode where a guy just ran at the camera in a sheet

[Anonymous No.11074876]

>>11074679
SInce you are posting htese threads on /sci/ rather than /x/, you shuld probaly includes some links to skeptical interpretations:

https://www.metabunk.org/2004-uss-nimitz-tic-tac-ufo-flir-footage-flir1.t9190/

https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-video-of-u-s-navy-jet-encounter-with-unknown-object.t9333/

https://www.metabunk.org/go-fast-footage-from-tom-delonges-to-the-stars-academy-bird-balloon.t9569/

Those would be a good start. And yes, I kow Tru Belivers from /x/ will have a stroke about MetaBunk, but the analyses folks perform there are useful -- and this is /sci/, not /x/.

[Anonymous No.11074884]

>>11074788
Maybe we should not feed this guy, and just report his threads so they can be moved to /x/.

[Anonymous No.11074887]

>>11074876
"Skeptical" interpreations always omitt and cherrypick the data. The interpration I am interested in is the rational one, the one that looks at all available data.

[Anonymous No.11074888]

>>11074837
There are indeed "eyewitness accounts" that claim this. But the video evidence we have does not show any of it.

Eyewitness testimony is enough for a thread on /x/. But this is not /x/.

[Anonymous No.11074892]

>>11074884
>Countless confirmations on the serious of this matter for the scientific community.
>MOVE IT TO /X/, I DON'T LIKE HOW IT MAKES ME FEEL, REEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.11074897]

>>11074888
A lot of experimental physics is entirely based on eyewitness testimony, 99.99% of the human population can't understand it. A lot of physics doesn't even have that, it's based entirely on models that can't be tested (dark energy and dark matter). Seems you have a double standard, buddy.

[Anonymous No.11074899]

>>11074887
OK, I understand that you are only interested in interpretations that agree with yours. But making /sci/ threads, we ought to have some data to work with, and some discussion of interpretations based on the data.

I am not asking you to agree with MetaBunk's takes on these, but if there are going to be repeated threads about UFOs on /sci/, then link to let's at least pretend to look at more than just Believer websites.

Or, if you don;t want to do that, take it to /x/ where a credulous approach is more appropriate.

[Anonymous No.11074901]

>>11074892
Nice example of the level of discussion this topic is getting in these threads, and why it is not really on topic for /sci/.

[Anonymous No.11074903]

>>11074899
>OK, I understand that you are only interested in interpretations that agree with yours
Nope, never said that, I'm also not OP.

[Anonymous No.11074908]

>>11074887
>not conflating reports with no commonality is "cherrypicking"

[Anonymous No.11074915]

>>11074897
>A lot of experimental physics is entirely based on eyewitness testimony

[Anonymous No.11074922]

>>11074915
>DARK ENERGY AND MATTER ARE REAL!!!!, BUT I CAN'T PROVE IT BRO

[Anonymous No.11074925]

>>11074897
>A lot of experimental physics is entirely based on eyewitness testimony
Reminder to sage the thread and report the >>>/x/ posters.

[Anonymous No.11074928]

>>11074925
I bully /x/ posters, incel.

[Anonymous No.11074941]

>>11074922
>>>/x/

[Anonymous No.11074944]

>>11074941
>>>/faggot/

[Anonymous No.11074970]

>>11074679
>Less reliable civilian footage of small, high speed objects obtained with private drones.
To me that is the most reliable footage we have because it isn't tainted by politics, the government or any other bullshit. It's simply ordinary people posting stuff they filmed directly with their drones. And even in 4k quality.

[Anonymous No.11075118]

>>11074970
It also most reliably shows bugs and birds.

[Anonymous No.11075852]

>>11074759

Mick West and his Metabunk-Folks really are out in force to get this shut down or at least get it moved to /x/.

Pretty professional work:

https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

[Anonymous No.11075881]

I think that the board owner should indeed look at the tactics deployed in this thread to not have a discussion but rather have it shut down.

>>11070370

It's grossly unscientific and obviously driven by an agenda.

[Anonymous No.11076157]

Say a government has hold of alien technology. Keeping it secret is the only logical choice.
>people working with the alien artifact leak out that it exists
>the public goes dude just tell us already lmao
>the government makes a public announcement and shows what the thing can do
>the thing can control gravity or some sci-fi shit
>if reverse engineered and controlled you win planet earth
>every other government on earth demands to research the thing
>big companies ready to suck dick to get a hold of the thing too
>sanctions, trade deals breaking, borderline war, etc
They won't tell us until the day when the crack the code and start world war 3.

[Anonymous No.11076259]

>>11075881
>>11075852
Why are "debunkers" so cringe?
Imagine calling yourself a "debunker".

[Anonymous No.11076582]

>>11076259

Omar Lara from the USS Nimitz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEmfjU4U4H8&t

[Anonymous No.11076632]

>>11074922
Gravity is also real but can you see it? Dark matter is just some inexplicable phenomena that is always consistently observed and can be modelled. Your views on what is reasonable belongs to the pre dark ages era where the mechanistic universe and celestial spheres were still in fashion.

[Anonymous No.11076639]

>>11076157
if there ever was a nation to fight the whole world against itself in WWII with no allies it would be USA after the fall of the soviet union but before another super power arose so they should have already capitalized on this secret tech while they have the upper hand

[Anonymous No.11077050]

Is any anon willing to fly his drone around and check the footage for unusual apperances? Preferably in legal proximitiy to any nuclear facilites or anomalies in earths magnetic field.