/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11067026]

Why do people accept Richard Lynn's fake IQ study without looking much into it? The average IQ for india is 82 acc to this bullshit study he conducted.The sample was taken from 3 backward tribes who never had any education , of course it will be low wtf. Several IQ studies have been conducted afterwards, on educated people which shows much higher average, as high as 107 but those are not taken seriously. I'm a pajeet and Its pissing me off

[Anonymous No.11067059]

>>11067026
> The average IQ for india is 82 acc to this bullshit study he conducted.The sample was taken from 3 backward tribes who never had any education , of course it will be low wtf.

I have no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't only one study and it wasn't even his.
Read this and stop coping you totally muh 107 IQ

[Anonymous No.11067085]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3018494/

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1179/oeh.2005.11.2.138

http://www.jcdr.net/article_fulltext.asp?id=6726&issn=0973-709x&issue=11&month=November&page=ZC10&volume=9&year=2015

[Anonymous No.11067091]

Read this and go kill urself

[Anonymous No.11067100]

>>11067026
Indians are low IQ except for the high caste. Where do you think gypsies come from? India.

[Anonymous No.11067229]

>>11067026
The Lynn study sounds about right
Here is what I've noticed
Pajeets lack higher reasoning ability but they are good at applying preexisting tools which makes them terrible scientists and theoreticians but adequate engineers.
Pajeets are really good at gaming exams, many Pajeets can game the system but once in, they lack the higher reasoning ability to anything spectacular so afterwards, they open up tutoring services to game exams for other Pajeets.
Pajeets are highly nepotistic, puts on an arrogant front yet are paradoxically self-loathing. They are arrogant to the group members but to outsiders, Pajeets denigrate their own group including themselves. Pajeets are the ideal slave watcher, smart enough to control other slaves but too dumb to understand higher order concepts.

[Anonymous No.11067237]

>>11067026
Nobody but polfags takes lynn seriously and that's only because they don't know any better

indians in india go through about 5 years of schooling on average so their IQ is severely supressed by that, as well as other factors

indians in the west are about as whites or better

[Anonymous No.11067323]

>>11067237
>Nobody but polfags takes lynn seriously and that's only because they don't know any better
And who would be better? Wicherts who found the African IQ to be 80? I take it as that you don't even realize that it would strengthen the case for genetic determinists. Trust me bud, you, of all people, want to use Lynn's numbers the most.

>indians in the west are about as whites or better
They're not. They have higher IQs than Indians in India but not as high as whites. And that likely due to selective emmigration from India.

[Anonymous No.11067347]

>>11067026
>be pajeet
>look down in contempt at all slightly darker skin tone castes
>look up in envy at all slightly light skin tone castes
>grossly overstate own virtues and accomplishments
Don't you have a plane to crash, Ramalasirhakesh?

[Anonymous No.11067912]

>>11067026
India is india because of it's people
just give up the /sci/ meme and do your best to leave India, get into management and make dough
we'll never be geniuses but I'd rather be rich than a poor /sci/ fag

[Anonymous No.11067942]

>>11067237
if you're better why dont you leave to make india better? clock is ticking superpooer 2020

[Anonymous No.11067971]

>>11067323
>the African IQ
lmao

[Anonymous No.11067978]

>>11067026
Only /pol/tards take any racial IQ “study” seriously

[Anonymous No.11068923]

>another IQ thread

[Anonymous No.11069040]

>>11067026
>I'm a pajeet and its pissing me off
My few life events with you have been you trying to scam me on multiple occasions not only over phone, abhorrency on planerides and general offensive nature.

87 actually speaks in your favor

[Anonymous No.11069046]

why do elites from third world countries get mad when they read about the impoverished masses they Lord over having a low iq? you may not have a 83 iq ranjesh, with your English speaking and internet connection, but the guy in a slum of Calcutta definitely does

[Anonymous No.11069078]

>>11067026
It's called misrepresentation of data.
It's what scientists who are wrong resort to to win arguments.
Say I wanted to prove white Americans had low IQ compared to black americans, I would just go grab a big load of people from Walmart from the most ghetto town I could find,
Then I go to the richest city I can find and hang out at a university, collect some black students leaving post grad classes.

IQ test both groups,
And then like magic.

"Scientist confirms black people smarter than whites"

How you gonna argue with that data.

If you fall for this type of thing you will never be a scientist.

[Anonymous No.11069092]

>>11067026
IQ is a terrible measure
if you look into it, there is no reputable standardization of IQ tests, nor is there any official body that makes sure different IQ tests give the same results
nor is there any definition of
>muh general intelligence
it's essentially a measure designed to make Europeans look smart and everyone else look dumb
furthermore, it is intended to suggest that psychologists have the authority to decide who is intelligent and who is not
psychologists aren't very good people
they aren't good judges of who is intelligent and who is not

[Anonymous No.11069121]

>>11069078
you're tacitly admitting blacks still have a lower iq on average if you have to go to a university to test black students

how's about we go to a poor town and test both the whites and the blacks shopping at the Walmart

[Anonymous No.11069132]

>>11067026
>Why do people accept Richard Lynn's fake IQ study without looking much into it?
Two reasons.
First, because it suits them. They're willing to ignore the significant methodological issues since they see the results they were "expecting."
Second, because they themselves have low IQ. Racism and prejudice are correlated with decreased cognitive ability.

[El Arcón No.11069156]

So, Walter is Wojak and the other guy is Jackawelker? And Greg is the lawyer? And Wojak and Jackawelker don't like each other? That name is actually, "Woah, Jack!," then?

Whoever was in El Mencho's truck, you are blessed and your people are blessed, and I will increase your numbers and deliver all of your enemies to you.

[Anonymous No.11069158]

>>11069121
>how's about we go to a poor town and test both the whites and the blacks shopping at the Walmart
That's exactly his point. This is what Lynn does not do.
Lynn tested the children of higher-educated Japanese, from top private schools, and then concluded that Japanese IQ is on average 11 points higher than White IQ.

On a related note, his meta-analysis of African IQ studies discarded almost every study that yielded an IQ higher than 85, regardless of methodology, even if other studies not discarded by his analysis featured the same methodology. In fact you can predict (pic related) which studies his meta-analysis considers representative by only considering the IQ result and ignoring every other factor.

[Anonymous No.11069196]

>>11069132
>iq and g doesn't real
>racists have lower iq and g
idk iq and g seem to predict very well imo.

[Anonymous No.11069228]

>>11067229

lmao i had a western raised pajeet gf and she was exactly like this.

[Anonymous No.11069235]

>>11069132
>>11069196

>pointing out certain observations that upset the feelings of other humans means you have a low IQ

[Anonymous No.11069239]

>>11069196
>iq and g doesn't real
I never said that though, did I?

[Anonymous No.11069260]

>>11069235
>pointing out certain observations that upset the feelings of other humans means you have a low IQ
But I didn't say that.
It's the inability to be intellectually honest and to reason cogently that means you have a low IQ.

And those are two things that conservatives and especially racists certainly have proven to be bad at. So it's not a surprise that they score lower on average on IQ tests.
Here are two other observations you might find interesting: academics score well above average on IQ tests, and academia is overwhelmingly liberal.

[Anonymous No.11069567]

>>11069092
>it's essentially a measure designed to make Europeans look smart and everyone else look dumb
Why do Asians and Jews score higher then?

[Anonymous No.11069581]

>>11069239

[Anonymous No.11069615]

>>11069158
>>11069078
This may be the most seriously I've approached this topic, but that's about what I thought

Very tough to construct a comprehensive bulletproof study on humans. Even tougher when you can't see past your own hypothesis and biases in designing it.

[Anonymous No.11069642]

>>11069158
>his meta-analysis of African IQ studies discarded almost every study that yielded an IQ higher than 85, regardless of methodology,
Yeah and here is why. Something you always forget to mention when you bring this up.

Seriously, I would really like to know what was going on in your head while you were typing that. That he comes across a study that shows IQ higher than 80 and then he goes like "No, this can't be, Africans are dumb. Oh well, better throw it out" and then he puts this as an explanation and calls it a day? Weren't you at least once in your life curious why he discarded those studies?
I know you think he is racist and all but still, you can't be so dumb to believe in this ridiculous scenario.

[Anonymous No.11069647]

>>11069260
not the guy you’re responding to but wouldnt these studies be subject to statistical faults? generally, intelligent people won’t admit publically to being racist, even in a study where secrecy is promised, as it would adversely affect relationships and opportunities if society was to become aware of this fact. I’m somewhat of a civic nationalist but would never publically admit that in my very left leaning country, for example.

[Anonymous No.11069660]

>>11069260

[Anonymous No.11069841]

>>11069158
Oh god, I should never check the archives. I never knew it is humanly possible to write so much falsehoods in such small amount of text.

Apart from your (wrong) assumption that Bell Curve got their black IQ estimate from Lynn's estimates for Africa somehow, you didn't even realize that if African IQ was indeed around 80 like Wicherts claims it would go against your own narrative.

[Anonymous No.11069868]

>>11069158
>>11069841
Also, this might blow your mind but Lynn himself (that racist) acknowledges that genotypic African IQ is 80 and the reason for the 10 point reduction is due to inhospitable environment of Africa.
So the whole time you were arguing against an argument no one was making.

[Anonymous No.11069869]

>>11067026
IQ is more of a measure of education than anything.

While IQ is heritable (up to 80-something percent), poor nutrition, prenatal environment, and disease radically lower IQ.

A common assumption of brainlets is that heritability is fixed and can't be changed. This is false. Environmental differences can radically change the heritable effect of IQ. Everyone have the same environment? 100% heritability. Everyone has different environments? heritability significantly drops.

This is brainlet baby 101 I-took-some-college-classes level thinking and arguing.

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[Anonymous No.11069958]

>>11069938
>>11069942
>>11069944
>>11069950
>>11069952
'race' isn't even defined biologically
go back 2 pol
nt

[Anonymous No.11069979]

>>11069958
That's pretty funny considering that 70% of biologists agree with concept of race.

[Anonymous No.11069992]

The absolute state of the IQ deniers in this thread. Just because you think it's WACIST to admit that races do differ in IQ doesn't mean you can just deny the evidence in front of you. There's a reason IQ is one of the most genetically predictable traits.

[Anonymous No.11069993]

>>11069979
>70% of biologists agree
That's pretty low really. No competent biologist is going to deny races exist.
>>11069958
>i can't use a dictionary
>that means it isn't real

[Anonymous No.11070003]

>>11067237
>indians in the west are about as whites or better

Indians in the West come from the very elite back in India.

[Anonymous No.11070004]

>>11069958
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_genetic_clustering

[Anonymous No.11070010]

>>11069954
So arabs are indeed white

[Anonymous No.11070015]

>>11069868
Genotypical african iq is not 80 since African Iq is already 80 under current conditions.

[Anonymous No.11070016]

>>11070015
African IQ is around 70.

[Anonymous No.11070022]

>>11070010
arabs are white

[Anonymous No.11070024]

>>11070016
Based on Lynn cherrypicking stats.
>>11069158

[Anonymous No.11070027]

>>11070022
>race is real
>arabs and euros are not the same race
I guess u picked option 1

[Anonymous No.11070028]

>>11070010
and so are australian aboriginals

[Anonymous No.11070031]

>>11070028
Do they have white skulls too

[Anonymous No.11070032]

>>11070027
both options are true.
Arabs and euros are the same race.

[Anonymous No.11070034]

>>11070031
all bone is white

[Anonymous No.11070048]

>>11070024
You still don't realize it, do you?
Just think about it, if US blacks, those with 25% euro admixture, living in first world country have an IQ of 85 then what sense does it makes that African blacks living in deprived environment full of malaria and famines have an IQ of 80?
You, as an environmentalist, want to use Lynn's numbers. You need the African IQ to be as low as possible because you need the gap between African blacks and US blacks to be as wide as possible. So then you could claim about how great effects environment has on you IQ, that it can increase by 15 points and so on.
Because if their IQ would be around 80 like Wicherts is claiming, that would just open the door for genetic determinists to say about how IQ is fixed and nothing can be done to increase it, that is all about genes and so on.

I know, insisting that blacks have low IQ to own the racists sounds very counter intuitive to you, but in this case, it's true.

[Anonymous No.11070057]

>>11070048
these guys say african IQ is actually 65 or something. At that IQ it would be impossible for blacks to even wear their own clothes, or even shoot arrows at animals. Or even drive a car.
Yet they do all these things. They even use guns.
This stuff is impossible for 65 IQ people

[Anonymous No.11070058]

>>11070048
>it cant be, its too high
A slave population from west africa is not representative of east african Kenyans.

The only reason Lynn excluded studies was the IQ scores.

[Anonymous No.11070125]

>>11070032
based and racepilled
i have a similar chart

each bar is a person, i'm guessing it\s the same with your chart

different clusters as well

[Anonymous No.11070130]

>>11070058
>The only reason Lynn excluded studies was the IQ scores.
If you really believe that then be grateful for that. Because without Lynn's low estimates you would only end up with Witchert's 80 and thus you would have a very hard time arguing environmental explanation for the black-white IQ gap in the United States.

[Anonymous No.11070131]

>>11070057
>impossible for 65 IQ people
Impossible for 65 IQ whites because they need to have terrible brain damage to get that low. A 65 IQ african will handle everyday low IQ tasks okay as he is not brain damaged. He just won't develop abstract reasoning higher than what normal 12 year old whites do.

[Anonymous No.11070137]

>>11070125
your chart doesn't differentiate between the africans or the "white" race and instead divides the americans.
Then again I really wonder what would happen if rosenberg had done K=7

[Anonymous No.11070138]

>>11070130
80 is the right answer.
Idgaf about blacks in the US lol.

What I care about is how that number makes indian genotypic IQ of anywhere in the 80's look laughable which is the subject of the thread.
>If you really believe that then be grateful for that.
It's not a question of belief. You can literally predict what studies Lynn included by looking at the score.
It's literally a graph right in front of your face >>11069158
It can't get any simpler.

[Anonymous No.11070142]

>>11070131
Nope. You're stupid. What's the point of using IQ at all if IQ doesn't measure the same thing?

[Anonymous No.11070144]

>>11070137
It only divides the americas at K=6 though.

[Anonymous No.11070145]

>>11070057
65 IQ still can wear clothes and drive cars you dumb fuck.

[Anonymous No.11070147]

>>11070131
>2 people with the same IQ are differently smart

[Anonymous No.11070148]

>>11070125
>>11070032

Charts like this are good but a bit misleading because the number of clusters is put in by hand. There are better methods that infer the whole clustering from the data itself instead. Picture related.

[Anonymous No.11070153]

>>11070145
So people that are half my IQ can drive cars despite how people that are my IQ fail their driving tests and shit too?
Sheesh. People with the same IQ are supposed to be the same level of intelligence. Otherwise IQ is thrown out the window dude. This means we cannot measure african IQ properly. If 65 IQ people can drive cars, then there's something wrong with your IQ test. It's not working

[Anonymous No.11070156]

>>11070148
your cluster comes from a paper that only cares about black people. Sure it works for me, but it only cares about blacks...
It does say 7 races so the end result is the same

[Anonymous No.11070160]

>>11070148
>Charts like this are good but a bit misleading because the number of clusters is put in by hand. There are better methods that infer the whole clustering from the data itself instead.
Yes and the optimal clustering is K=5 (which matches skulls btw)
> Picture related.
aah yes, the african american race

grasping at straws there bud

[Anonymous No.11070161]

>>11070138
>What I care about is how that number makes indian genotypic IQ of anywhere in the 80's look laughable which is the subject of the thread.
We were talking about Africans, not Indians.

>It's not a question of belief. You can literally predict what studies Lynn included by looking at the score.
>It's literally a graph right in front of your face >>11069158
>It can't get any simpler.
Can you respond to >>11069642 ? I would like to know your view on this issue.
You imagine that Lynn was discarding studies he didn't like to get low estimate but then Wicherts came on the scene, made much more honest review with no discarding of studies and came to 80 figure? Is this close to how you view the situation?

[Anonymous No.11070165]

>>11070153
>fail their driving tests

Most people in Africa do not give a fuck about driving tests.

[Anonymous No.11070167]

>>11070153
or you know, driving a car is very simple thing that even a retard can do

[Anonymous No.11070170]

>>11070153
>Otherwise IQ is thrown out the window dude.
as it should be
/thread

mods should implement a word filter

IQ to onions would be funny
and it would give us a way to discuss things related to the s word

[Anonymous No.11070172]

>>11070161
>Can you respond to >>11069642
i already did essentially
>>11070058
>>11069158

[Anonymous No.11070173]

>>11070160
>aah yes, the african american race
It is self-reported ancestry. You are arguing semantics.

>Yes and the optimal clustering is K=5 (which matches skulls btw)

Could be. However, the real genetic structure is in that picture. Any talks of an integer number of clusters are just a simplification of that reality.

[Anonymous No.11070174]

>>11070142
It does. No IQ test consists of dressing yourself, driving and shooting arrows.
Like height: A double leg amputee and a pygmy might have the same height, but for different reasons and generally the pygmy's going to have an easier time than the amputee.

[Anonymous No.11070177]

>>11070170
Your daily reminder that IQ is real, significant, and one of the best and most reproducible correlates in all of social sciences and adjacent fields.

[Anonymous No.11070179]

>>11070160
no optimal clustering is not k=5. You just want it to match skulls.

[Anonymous No.11070180]

>>11070173
>It is self-reported ancestry.

[Anonymous No.11070183]

>>11070167
that's not true.

>>11070165
their country wouldn't function if they were crashing cars into each other all the time

[Anonymous No.11070184]

>>11070180
Yes, self-reported ancestry. It is just used as labels for those clusters. The clustering itself is a fundamental biological reality, not the names attached to it.

[Anonymous No.11070187]

>>11070172
>i already did essentially
>>>11070058
>>>11069158
In one post you say that west african population can't be used to estimate IQ of Kenyans. (I guess you think that's what Lynn did)
The other one is the one I made a response to. So no, you didn't respond at all.

Can you at least answer this:
>You imagine that Lynn was discarding studies he didn't like to get low estimate but then Wicherts came on the scene, made much more honest review with no discarding of studies and came to 80 figure? Is this close to how you view the situation?

[Anonymous No.11070194]

>>11067026
The public perception of pajeets will change and soon. Many highly successful people like Sundar Pichai, Satya Nadella. Don't worry.

[Anonymous No.11070195]

>>11070184
It literally puts saharans and west eurasians in the same cluster and the same color
I guess turks really are black.

what you posted is low quality in 5 different ways.

[Anonymous No.11070196]

>>11070174
yeah but someone who is mentally retarded like at 65 IQ cannot drive a car in a country like botswana or south africa because he'd be crashing his car within 5 minutes of driving it.
We also don't hear about africans crashing their planes or being unable to tie their shoelaces. Did you know 65 IQ people cannot tie their shoelaces?

[Anonymous No.11070197]

>>11070183
I know a fucking down syndrome boy who regularly drives a tractor on a farm. Driving can be done by a retard. It is a simple activity. Get back to me when we are talking about doing higher math.

>their country wouldn't function if they were crashing cars into each other all the time

Even retards can avoid each other usually.

[Anonymous No.11070200]

>>11070057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciFa7zvsDHc

[Anonymous No.11070201]

>>11070183
Their countries don't function and africa has the highest traffic accident and fatality rate in the world.

[Anonymous No.11070202]

>>11070195
>It literally puts saharans and west eurasians in the same cluster and the same color

As it should be. North Africans cluster with whites at the highest level. Let me guess, you are a dumb amerifat who thinks only blonde blue eyed people are White?

They do split off if you do more detailed clustering, tough.

[Anonymous No.11070204]

>>11070187
okay i'll spell it out
>lynn says kenyans having iq close or higher than 80 is impossible due to blacks in the US having an iq of 85
he has no basis of making such a comparison, and no basis of discarding that test other than "seems too high"
If it is representative you are obligated to include it.

[Anonymous No.11070207]

>>11070197
according to you all africans have the same IQ as down syndrome people.
This is what you are implying. LMAO

[Anonymous No.11070211]

>>11070202
>North Africans
>Saharans
You're just baiting at this point.

[Anonymous No.11070214]

>>11067026
Part of the reason why indians are so retarded is they're all inbred.

[Anonymous No.11070216]

>>11070147
i don't even agree with that guy but yes, two people with the same IQ can be differently smart

IQ subtests exist

[Anonymous No.11070215]

>>11070160
>Yes and the optimal clustering is K=5 (which matches skulls btw)

What are the five clusters?

[Anonymous No.11070217]

>>11070201
africa is not a country. And their countries do function. They even have a few that are above ukraine in GDP per capita PPP. Like botswana. Next you're going to say "THEY JUST SELL RESOURCES" guess what whites sold resources to get rich too. Sweden has alot of the worlds iron reserves.
You must have an IQ of 50.

[Anonymous No.11070219]

>>11070204
>>lynn says kenyans having iq close or higher than 80 is impossible due to blacks in the US having an iq of 85
Sure and also because there are other five studies giving estimates of 63 - 76 for Kenya.

Now, can you answer this:
>You imagine that Lynn was discarding studies he didn't like to get low estimate but then Wicherts came on the scene, made much more honest review with no discarding of studies and came to 80 figure? Is this close to how you view the situation?

[Anonymous No.11070221]

>>11070211
Subsaharan blacks are their own cluster. Saharans, north africans, middle-easterners, Europeans and nordics are the second cluster. They are genetically related, at least if you look at a global level. This is basic knowledge.

[Anonymous No.11070222]

>>11070214
Yeah pakis are even more inbred but keep handing indians their asses and existing. Imagine 200 million pakis holding off 1.4 billion indians. That's happening. And no amount of autistic screeching about inbreeding is going to save you

[Anonymous No.11070226]

>>11070217
Ukraine is in a war and still has higher Human Development Index than Botswana.

[Anonymous No.11070227]

>>11070183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate

sort by road fatalities per 100k motor vehicles

somalia literally over a thousand times higher than say germany lmao

they ARE crashing into each other all the time

[Anonymous No.11070230]

>>11070215
he'll look at the skulls so he can validate 18th century "science"

[Anonymous No.11070234]

>>11070222
India is more developed than Pakistan, even in per capita terms.

[Anonymous No.11070235]

>>11070226
I don't accept human development index and other cucked "metrics". And nice copout. It's still POORER than bostwana. I accept cold hard cash. GDP per capita PPP.

[Anonymous No.11070236]

>87 IQ from stupid tribes is bad
>107 IQ from only educated people is good

[Anonymous No.11070238]

>>11070219
>Sure and also because there are other five studies giving estimates of 63 - 76 for Kenya.
So?
Depends on when they took place and where.
Just because it affects the average in a way Lynn doesn't like, doesn't mean you can discard the test if it's representative.
It's literally "too high, cant be right" all over again.
And he did this sort of thing systematically as you can clearly see in >>11069158 and pic related

[Anonymous No.11070239]

>>11070217
>When you compare the best countries in Africa to worst countries in Europe then blacks don't look that bad.
>checkmate racists!!!

[Anonymous No.11070240]

>>11070234
Keep telling yourself that POOJEET. Keep telling yourself that as your people on the streets. Pakistan is still better

[Anonymous No.11070243]

>>11070235
HDI is a more comprehensive measure than GDP per capita. Ukraine is more developed than Botswana and that is it.

[Anonymous No.11070244]

>>11070238
Now, can you answer this:
>You imagine that Lynn was discarding studies he didn't like to get low estimate but then Wicherts came on the scene, made much more honest review with no discarding of studies and came to 80 figure? Is this close to how you view the situation?

[Anonymous No.11070245]

>>11070239
if the worst white countries can't do better than the best blacks countries then whites aren't really better. Sorry kiddo your race isn't special

[Anonymous No.11070247]

>>11070240
We shitting in orbit now, Paki scum

[Anonymous No.11070249]

>>11070243
No HDI is shit. It's cherry picking.
Money determines living standards. Not some arbitrary rules. By HDI australia is the best place to live in but once I got here, I found out they don't even have good internet. This is what you call living standards?

[Anonymous No.11070250]

>>11070245
>if the worst white countries can't do better than the best blacks countries then whites aren't really better.
Just the fact that you have to resort to comparing best of Africa to worst of Europe to make blacks look so-so good shows that whites are really better.

[Anonymous No.11070251]

>>11070245
That is a dumb fucking argument and you know it. Anyway, >>11070243

[Anonymous No.11070255]

>>11070250
Africa is the least developed place on the planet, and yet it has countries that can rival white countries in money and even beat them. That's very impressive, and it shows that whites aren't anything special really.

[Anonymous No.11070256]

>>11070249
Nope, living standards are a mix of social services, education, healthcare, life expectancy, access to justice, and so on. It is not only about money at all.

Ukraine > Botswana, seethe more faggot

[Anonymous No.11070257]

>>11070255
Inbreeding really takes its toll.

[Anonymous No.11070259]

>>11070235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

botswana just has some very wealthy people and lots of poor people according to the world bank it's the third least equal of the measured countries, whereas ukraine is the MOST equal of the measured countries

but these are just extremes, you should look at racial averages not outliers

[Anonymous No.11070264]

>>11070259
>botswana just has some very wealthy people and lots of poor people according to the world bank it's the third least equal of the measured countries

So typical third world shithole yet again, even if a bit above average. Why am I not surprised.

[Anonymous No.11070269]

>>11070179
I def see your point about k=7 and south asians
it's also good that it splits africa

and i am not 100% sure k=7 breaks the skull thing either

[Anonymous No.11070270]

>>11070264
>>11070259
>America just has some very wealthy people and lots of poor people according to the world bank it's the third least equal of the measured countries, whereas Norway is the MOST equal of the measured countries

So by this logic Norway>America

[Anonymous No.11070275]

>>11070259
I knew you were a communist.
Poor people don't matter.
What a cuck you are

[Anonymous No.11070277]

>>11070256
Everything you mentioned is for cucks that live in socialist shitholes.
Money has to pay for all that. So what if the citizen pays for it and not the government?

[Anonymous No.11070282]

>>11070270
Yes.

[Anonymous No.11070283]

>>11070275
You don't have to be a commie to recognize that extreme inequality is bad and a sign of an undeveloped country. The opposite extreme is bad, too.

[Anonymous No.11070290]

>All blacks are close to down syndrome IQ
https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/tips-adults-down-syndrome#1
>Adults with Down syndrome have a range of needs, abilities, and desires, just like any other group of people. Some will learn to drive, have relationships, and live almost entirely on their own. Others will need more day-to-day care, but even then may still be able hold a part-time job and participate in meaningful social activities.
So basically /pol/ is saying blacks cannot live on their own and need care. Now imagine a country of people like this. It's impossible for a country like that to function yet they are functioning and have GDP and shit. It's weird.
It's almost like blacks don't have down syndrome.
This article mentions driving as if that's an achievement.

[Anonymous No.11070291]

>>11070282
Get back to me when Europe lands on the Moon and has their own silicon valley. US has almost the perfect balance between rich and poor. Any more inequality and you fracture society, any less and you stagnate the economy and suffocate innovation.

[Anonymous No.11070295]

>>11070283
Nah you do.
Inequality is fact. And the more equal a country is, the more communist it is.
You need a helicopter ride

[Anonymous No.11070297]

Botswana is based and impressive af in a lot of ways
>HDI over 0.7
>fertility between 2 and 3 (2013)
>growing economy
>ok gdp and all that
>all that in spite of an AIDS prevalence of 20%
but it's absolutely worse than Ukraine

[Anonymous No.11070298]

>>11070291
Well america is headed towards more inequality soon because racists like you will vote right wing and turn taxes down to 0.

[Anonymous No.11070302]

>>11067026
>still thinks IQ is relevant
get a load of this guy lol

[Anonymous No.11070303]

>>11070290
>So basically /pol/ is saying blacks cannot live on their own and need care

Some of them cannot. Just like Downs. Even a country full of Down syndrome people will have an economy, they are not animals. It will just be a shitty economy. We see it in Africa.

Also, a lot of African economic success is just being propped up by White and Asian investments and management. Their countries would collapse if left completely to their own devices.

[Anonymous No.11070304]

>>11070297
The difference is that Ukraine is white, and botswana is black.
So Ukraine has a 35 IQ lead on botswana and yet is still poorer. Makes you think doesn't it.

[Anonymous No.11070309]

>>11070303
Botswana is a country of people with an IQ of down syndrome people and it's richer than Ukraine. Let that sink in. It's almost like IQ doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.11070311]

>>11070303
>Even a country full of Down syndrome people will have an economy
>>11070304
>So Ukraine has a 35 IQ lead on botswana
>35
ayyy lmao

[Anonymous No.11070313]

>>11070270
Not sure
USA has medium GINI, Norway has low GINI

USA is also highly racially diverse whereas Ukraine, Norway and Botswana not so much - some of USA's inequality is due to race, whereas in Botswana it might be due to not being a nice place

[Anonymous No.11070312]

>>11070304
Ukrainian civil was may have something to do with it.

>So Ukraine has a 35 IQ lead on botswana

IQ 80 vs. IQ 100 is just a 20 point lead

[Anonymous No.11070317]

>>11070309
It is not really richer than Ukraine, only a few peope at the top are richer

[Anonymous No.11070318]

>>11070312
*Ukrainian civil war

[Anonymous No.11070322]

>>11070317
https://tradingeconomics.com/botswana/gdp-per-capita-ppp
https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/gdp-per-capita-ppp
Holy shit. It's not only richer than Ukraine, 2x as rich. Let that sink in. Holy crap.

[Anonymous No.11070323]

>>11070291
>landing on the moon
government effort
>sillicon valley
privatized government effort (internet, computers, cellphones, etc.)

it literally has nothing to do with the "balance of the poors and riches" lol. It has to do with resources overall, and how a government decides to spend them. for the two examples you mentioned, it's completely because of government investment in public R&D.
same reason why Asian countries today are going to the moon, taking over tech, and taking over science as well.

[Anonymous No.11070324]

>>11070312
Botswana is actually 2x as rich according to trading economics >>11070322

[Anonymous No.11070327]

>>11070304
>Makes you think doesn't it.
Ukraine spent a century under communism and had a civil war so no, it really doesn't.

[Anonymous No.11070328]

>>11070313
Botswana is all the way in africa, surrounded by hostile nations, while ukraine is surrounded by developed countries and still manages to be a shithole.

[Anonymous No.11070330]

>>11070327
OH YOU'RE MAKING EXCUSES NOW?
Botswana spent more than 500 years under whites which is arguably worse, being under whites causes permanent damage to your culture.

[Anonymous No.11070333]

>>11070318
That's just excuse dude. Don't make excuses for your race. That's a sign of losing

[Anonymous No.11070337]

>>11070330
>Botswana spent more than 500 years under whites which is arguably worse, being under whites causes permanent damage to your culture.
The opposite really. Countries that were more colonized by Europeans ended up being richer today.

[Anonymous No.11070339]

>>11067026
India has a billion people so having an IQ of 82 with that much people is impressive meanwhile Nigeria has over 100 million with an IQ in the 60s meaning Nigerians are fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.11070342]

>>11070328
Ukraine is not as dangerous as Botswana.
>>11070290
Chimps are literally retarded compared to humans yet function just fine, the same applies to blacks they can good motor control but critical thinking is impossible for them.

[Anonymous No.11070347]

>>11070337
>they have 2 coins in their pocket instead of 1 so it was a good thing
They would have had 1000 coins in their bag if whitey had stayed in his own country

[Anonymous No.11070349]

>>11070309
>>11070304
The correlation between National IQ and GDP per capita is well established.

[Anonymous No.11070350]

>>11070342
black country still 2x richer than white country
https://tradingeconomics.com/botswana/gdp-per-capita-ppp
https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/gdp-per-capita-ppp
cope

[Anonymous No.11070354]

>>11070349
>lynn
>well established

[Anonymous No.11070355]

>>11070328
>while ukraine is surrounded by developed countries and still manages to be a shithole.
Ukraine is in the middle of a civil war - russians vs ukranians, Russians supported by the Russian Federation, who are HOSTILE to Ukraine

and even if Ukraine were surrounded by friendly countries (it isn't) it has a hostile foreign population inside

Botswana isn't currently at war, so actually Botswana has less hostile nations surrounding it

[Anonymous No.11070357]

>>11070349
Explain my picture then kiddo.
Ukraine is just back to where it was before the civil war, and yet their whites genes should allow them to work their magic but they couldn't.
Btw wars are part and parcel of being white so you can't use it as an excuse

[Anonymous No.11070359]

>>11070347
Liberia and Ethiopia were never colonized. You can check out yourself how prosperous they are.

>>11070354
You can ignore the first ten lines if that makes you feel better. It still wont change a thing.

[Anonymous No.11070361]

>>11070355
you can't use that as an excuse. It's just another sign that whites are animals and can't live in peace with each other.
Even a decade ago, botswana was richer than ukraine

[Anonymous No.11070363]

>>11070339
>Nigeria has over 100 million with an IQ in the 60s meaning Nigerians are fucking retards.
aah yes the 60 iq down syndrom tier nigerians that have satellites in orbit and have a space program

[Anonymous No.11070371]

>>11070363
I wonder what you're gonna say when they become the first black country with a space program and satellites in orbit in 10-15 years or so

[Anonymous No.11070375]

>>11070371
>t in 10-15 years or so
they already have satellites you mong, thats the point
it's how they have internet in rural areas and shitpost on nairaland

[Anonymous No.11070380]

>>11070363
>have satellites in orbit
Due to the few high IQ nigerian blacks but most nigerian blacks are fucking retarded. This is as stupid as saying nuclear warheads means whites arent just average in IQ but actually geniuses.

[Anonymous No.11070381]

>>11070350
Botswana is whitey infrastructure not black, so try again. Ukraine was also destroyed by the Soviets decades ago.

[Anonymous No.11070383]

>>11070375
what the fuck. I thought you were joking.

>>11070380
Yeah and the average whitey doesn't invent anything either.
Are we gonna cherrypick huh?
Do you think the average whitey invented anything in the west? Average IQ apparently matters jack shit

>>11070381
Keep making excuses but you've already lost. Botswana is BLACK

[Anonymous No.11070385]

>>11070357
The correlation isn't 1.0 so of course you can find outliers like Ukraine or Botswana. The others for example are Caribbean islands, Mongolia or oil-exporting Middle Eastern countries.

Sadly, even white gene magic can't undo century of communism.

[Anonymous No.11070386]

>>11067237
>indians in the west are about as whites or better
Only brighter Indians are able to move to the West similar to other Asians. Imagine sending above average white people into a country and then claiming the worldwide average IQ of white people is 120.

[Anonymous No.11070389]

>>11070385
>muh communism
that's part and parcel of being white. You guys think the white race is magical and it's just whites against the world while you fight nobody but each other the most.

[Anonymous No.11070390]

>>11070383
>Do you think the average whitey invented anything in the west? Average IQ apparently matters jack shit
Amazing. You can blurr the line between trolling and retardation.

[Anonymous No.11070392]

>>11070383
>Keep making excuses but you've already lost. Botswana is BLACK
No its white, if whites did not exist in Southern Africa there would be no Botswana right now.
>Yeah and the average whitey doesn't invent anything either.
Yet the average white community doesnt create areas as dangerous and unlivable as black africans. The average white is 100 while the average black american is 84(due to their 30% white DNA) and the average pure african is 68. What this means is that the morons of the white race are light years ahead of the average pure black person.

[Anonymous No.11070393]

>>11070386
any indian can move to the west. All he has to do is get a bachelors degree and apply to some white uni

[Anonymous No.11070396]

>>11070390
you're the retard. A nation of down syndrome people have a space program and satellites in orbit. If they were white skinned you'd be sucking their cocks

[Anonymous No.11070397]

>>11070386
>Only brighter Indians are able to move to the West similar to other Asians
either this or indian iq in the 80's isn't their genotypic maximum
most likely both
>similar to other Asians
asians already have a higher average so 'as whites or better' still applies

[Anonymous No.11070400]

>>11070389
Why so salty? Did a white guy steal your cousin?

[Anonymous No.11070404]

>>11070392
If whites didn't exist we'd be colonizing pluto right now

[Anonymous No.11070406]

>>11070396
Koko the gorilla is an example of a genetic outlier in gorillas to the point Koko should be seen as the gorilla equivalent to a genius. Pure blacks have few Kokos in their race that develop everything in their ex colonial nations but the normal black african slowly destroyed everything these Kokos create due to its severely low intelligence. You can see this in Black America where intelligent blacks try to improve the community only for feral american blacks to turn it back into a violent unlivable hellhole.

[Anonymous No.11070409]

>>11070396
Why are you lying?
> Its space program is not suprisingly, nonexistent.
http://www.hudsonfla.com/abotswana.htm

[Anonymous No.11070410]

>>11070406
I don't see their satellites crashing and burning in fact their economy keeps improving though...
what kind of witchcraft is this

[Anonymous No.11070412]

>>11070396
India has moon probes yet most of its population is mentally impaired.

[Anonymous No.11070413]

If India's average IQ was 100 or higher they would be a monster in science and economics and leading the world right now. Not a poo filled afterthought.

[Anonymous No.11070414]

>>11070409
https://africanews.space/nigerias-cstp-completes-three-successful-experimental-rocket-launches/

>>11070412
I guess IQ means nothing and a country can develop anyway

[Anonymous No.11070415]

>>11070290
>imagine a country of people like this
Don't have to imagine. Whole history of Africa is no development until whites show up and build functional countries which fall apart as soon as whites leave and blacks take over. They really do need supervision like they have Down syndrome.

[Anonymous No.11070416]

>>11070410
What does this have to do with anything? Again shut up about muh economy all the infrastructure in Southern Africa was developed by white people not blacks. You know what a place with only black infrastructure looks like? Haiti.

[Anonymous No.11070419]

>>11070392
>the average pure african is 68
"based on lynn"

[Anonymous No.11070420]

>>11070414
>I guess IQ means nothing and a country can develop anyway
The only reason poopstan has space technology is due to whitey caring about space. Had whitey never invented space technology poopstan would have none right now.
>>11070419
Based on how american blacks easily dominated Liberians they are obviously vastly more intelligent than pure blacks.

[Anonymous No.11070422]

>>11070415
oh no but their economies keep improving despite the best efforts of whites trying to ruin africa.
That's amazing

>>11070416
Nigeria is doing pretty well dude. I wonder if it was whites spending their rockets into space. Oh wait it was blacks

[Anonymous No.11070424]

>>11070410
>I don't see their satellites crashing
Because there are none. lol

>>11070414
Are you trolling at this point?

[Anonymous No.11070427]

>>11070422
>Nigeria is doing pretty well dude.
Nigeria is a mess, and a complete hellhole in its capital city. Lagos is actually more dangerous than Detroit in the USA.

[Anonymous No.11070428]

>>11070424
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-14563647
Nigeria has satellites in space. I wonder how this happened without whites wtf

[Anonymous No.11070430]

>>11070422

The entire economy of sub Saharan Africa combined is smaller than little Australia's. I don't think whites are preoccupied at all with that afterthought.

[Anonymous No.11070434]

>>11070427
Nigeria has satellites in space and Detroit doesn't

[Anonymous No.11070435]

>>11070428
https://allafrica.com/stories/201908010204.html

[Anonymous No.11070437]

>>11070392
>The average white is 100 while the average black american is 84(due to their 30% white DNA) and the average pure african is 68.
Based on your math if blacks were 60% white mulattoes they'd have an average of 100

[Anonymous No.11070439]

>>11070393
>All he has to do is get a bachelors degree
Which means above average Indians.

>>11070397
The only Asians that actually have a slightly higher average IQ than Whites are Japs. The rest is fairly equal or a bit below. And before you say Chinks, these fuckers care more about face than anything in the world and will cheat in every possible thing that decides their outwards appearance, their self reported tests can't be taken seriously so who knows what their actual IQ is.

[Anonymous No.11070440]

https://proliteracy.org/Blogs/Article/311/Nigeria-Comes-Face-to-Face-with-a-HUGE-Literacy-Crisis
>>11070434
Detroit is a black dominated city in the US you idiot.

[Anonymous No.11070441]

>>11070430
I think whites care too much, look at you posting in a thread to shit on black people. You must fear their emerging capabilities. This means you're scared they're gonna develop and invade your country and eliminate the white race

[Anonymous No.11070442]

http://www.sundaystandard.info/botswana-most-illiterate-country-world-%E2%80%93-research-study

[Anonymous No.11070443]

>>11070428
>The NigeriaSat-2 and NigeriaSat-X spacecraft were lofted into orbit aboard a Russian Dnepr rocket from a launch pad in the town of Yasny, southern Russia.
Nigeria collaborated with UK engineers on the project

As always, blacks would be completely lost without the white man.

[Anonymous No.11070445]

>OH NO NO AFRICANS CAN'T DEVELOP
>STOP THEM NOW

[Anonymous No.11070447]

>>11070437
Mulattos cause less crime than blacks as can be seen in the Dominican Republic vs any the many nearly 100% black nations in the West Indies.

[Anonymous No.11070450]

>>11070442
>YOU'RE ILLITERATE YOU CAN'T BE RICHER THAN WHITES WTF
>STOP GETTING RICHER THAN WHITES STOP YOU CAN'T DO THIS

[Anonymous No.11070454]

>>11070447
Yeah
and mulattoes have an average IQ of 100.
Also, 90% white and 10% black population has an IQ of 115

68 is just an impossible number however you slice it

[Anonymous No.11070455]

>>11070443
>PLEASE DON'T DO IT YOURSELF
>RELY ON THE GOOD OLD WHITE MAN OR YOU'LL BE LOST
>DON'T LAUNCH ROCKETS ON YOUR OWN PLEASE TAKE MY WHITE ADVICE

[Anonymous No.11070456]

>>11070445
Develop what? They have no ambition to begin with. it boggles our mind how literally nothing has happened in the thousands of years blacks have been in Sub Saharan Africa. Meanwhile in the most hostile climate in Eurasia the central asiatic desert there were city states, trading centers and of course bloody glorious wars.

[Anonymous No.11070460]

>>11070454
Mullatoes have IQ around 90.

[Anonymous No.11070462]

>>11070456
>Develop what? They have no ambition to begin with. it boggles our mind how literally nothing has happened in the thousands of years blacks have been in Sub Saharan Africa. Meanwhile in the most hostile climate in Eurasia the central asiatic desert there were city states, trading centers and of course bloody glorious wars.
>STOP DEVELOPING YOU DIDN'T DEVELOP 500 YEARS AGO, DON'T DO IT NOW

[Anonymous No.11070463]

>>11070454
>and mulattoes have an average IQ of 100
No

[Anonymous No.11070464]

>>11070460
Their iq is (100 +80)/2=90

[Anonymous No.11070466]

>ITT whitey coping with his own level cap
this is as far as whites go. Sorry to say it whitey

[Anonymous No.11070469]

>>11070445
>Stop them from developing
No
>Stop them from entering developed countries
Yes

[Anonymous No.11070470]

>>11070460
indeed
and that is because pure blacks have an iq of 80 and not 68.
>>11070463
based on the math of "The average white is 100 while the average black american is 84(due to their 30% white DNA) and the average pure african is 68."
they do

[Anonymous No.11070473]

>>11070462
What are they developing exactly? You dont seem to get it, black african nations existing means all they are doing is trying to maintain an alien infrastructure set up by whites decades ago meaning their development doesnt actually mean jackshit because its hand holding. Look at fucking Japan they went from rural to one of the most technologically advanced states in the world, most of their country is more advanced than China for fuck sake. Thats how you know Japs have high IQ.

[Anonymous No.11070474]

>>11070441

Not at all, I was primarily addressing the pajeet. India and China do have a chance of positioning themselves as the world #1's but they still have a long way to go.

Africa isn't even on the table. It's pretty much the ghetto of the planet.

[Anonymous No.11070479]

>>11070470
>based on the math of "The average white is 100 while the average black american is 84(due to their 30% white DNA) and the average pure african is 68."
>they do
No they dont, it doesnt work like that.

[Anonymous No.11070482]

>>11070462
>Hmmm, maybe if I will start posting wojaks it will look like I'm cool and people won't notice how I got btfo.

You aren't on /int/, pal.

[Anonymous No.11070486]

>>11070470
Pure blacks in America have an IQ of 80.
Pure blacks in Africa have an IQ of 70.

[Anonymous No.11070487]

>>11070470
>because pure blacks have an iq of 80
Bullshit, african blacks do worse compared to all other races except aboriginals. Blacks are the most braindead people in America every other race in this country does better in school than them EVERY SINGLE ONE including hispanics and native americans who are dumber than us whites on average.

[Anonymous No.11070490]

>>11070474
https://tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/gdp-per-capita-ppp
Nigeria isn't doing that badly. The economy has taken a recent hit but they're only like a decade behind India. They need nukes to defend against whites collapsing their country and then they're good. But of course they aren't a mega country like china and india. Still though, nearly every black student I've met at uni is nigerian the rest are somalian. They could have more potential if they absorbed the other countries around them or if they formed something like the EU

[Anonymous No.11070492]

>>11070422
>whites trying to ruin africa
Reality is nothing like that. They've done nothing but build it up.
African countries might be improving but they still perform far worse than white countries despite being supported by them.

[Anonymous No.11070495]

>>11070492
whites destroy africa and kill the leaders.
Whites do nothing but destroy. Shut up kid

[Anonymous No.11070497]

Which race has a criminal culture in the US? Blacks.Which race destroys social venues in America by existing? Blacks. Which race has done nothing but cause misery and destruction in America? Jews but also Blacks right behind them.

Pay attention notice I never even seen Mexicans once even though they are the highest minority population in the US. I dare say to thee why the fuck are blacks more problematic than mexicans even though they are far less of them than mexicans. Even in modern California a ridiculous level of crime is caused by the black minority compared to the hispanic majority.

[Anonymous No.11070501]

>>11070482
>You aren't on /int/, pal.

[Anonymous No.11070502]

>>11070492
Also the fact that all the inter international aid we sent them over the years would sum up to five Marshal plans.

[Anonymous No.11070503]

>>11070495
There is nothing to destroy in Africa you negro idiot, Africa is nothing but buildings propped up by the white man. Its a testament to black intelligence that these idiots dont realize these countries they live in were made by whitey decades ago they genuinely think these are their own hardwork and blood. Without whites these nations would never ever exist period.

[Anonymous No.11070504]

>>11070497
>BLACKS 13 50 CRIME
>LOOK MOM I'M SMART NOW

[Anonymous No.11070506]

>>11070490

How many times do you need to hear it? Whites don't give a fuck about Africa. Blacks are their own worst enemy. Colonization was only so easy because whites could easily divide and conquer the already quarrelsome and retarded black tribes of the area. Fucking Belgium took over a territory half the size of Europe. It was a cakewalk, no effort needed.

[Anonymous No.11070511]

>>11070503
>Without whites these nations would never ever exist period.
>BLACKS WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT WHITES

>>11070506
>Whites don't give a fuck about Africa
>I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT AFRICA THAT'S WHY I POST ABOUT BLACKS ALL THE TIME

[Anonymous No.11070512]

If you really want to know the average IQ of a people all you need to do is check the Homicide rate.

[Anonymous No.11070515]

Easy way to destroy Africa is stop trading with them, if blacks cant even maintain an internal trading system they are not worth even considering being human.
>>11070504
Yes? This is factual it is ludicrous how criminal the negro race is in my nation of America, I have to be more on ground around blacks than my own white people this is absolutely ridiculous when whites are the minority. I have been attacked by mexicans also but not as frequently as blacks and its always only fucking blacks.

[Anonymous No.11070517]

>>11070501
Yeah, you arent. That's the only board where you can make damage control by posting wojaks.

Just take the L, go have sex with your cousin and stop shitting up this thread already.

[Anonymous No.11070518]

>>11070512
>>11070515
>JUST LOOK AT THE FBI CRIME STATISTICS DON'T THINK FOR YOURSELF JUST LOOK AT MY DIAGRAM

[Anonymous No.11070522]

>>11070517
>IF I SHIT ON BLACKS WITH WHITE RACISTS MAYBE THE WHITE LOAD WILL BE SHOT DOWN MY THROAT

[Anonymous No.11070523]

Arabs/Indians cause so little crime in the US they arent even racially classified in statistics

Blacks cause so much crime they cant ever stop putting them as a separate group in criminal statistics.

Mexicans cause barely any crime comparable to blacks, most mexican crime is organized gang stuff, while most black crime is random impulsive attacks on human beings for no rational reason.

[Anonymous No.11070527]

>>11070487
>>11070486
>68
>70
Your numbers are based on faulty studies by Richard Lynn.
The real number is 80 for pure black africans.
See>>11069158

Wicherts et al showed this a few years ago.
https://jeltewichertsdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/wicherts2010iqafr.pdf

read this very carefully

[Anonymous No.11070530]

>>11070445
>>11070450
>>11070455
>>11070462
>>11070501
>>11070504
>>11070511
>>11070518
Imagine coping that much lmao.

[Anonymous No.11070531]

>>11070523
Thanks pajeet. Your white overlords are satisfied with your services. You've punched down on blacks. You can now have my load shot down your throat.

[Anonymous No.11070536]

>>11070517
Incest is something that happens more in Africa than America.
>>11070527
The real number cannot be 80 thats still too high and implies black africans are on par with the most dimwitted Eurasian breed which are native americans that live in the amazon forest, and the development of those people compared to blacks says otherwise. So any stone structures dating back to 2000 B.C can be found in the amazon and yet nothing like that can be found in negro Africa.

[Anonymous No.11070538]

>>11070511

>NOOOOOOOOO WHEN I POST THAT AFRICANS ARE SUPERIOR AND GOING TO SPACE NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ME AND POINT OUT THAT MY RACE IS ACTUALLY RETARDED AND IN LAST PLACE GLOBALLY

[Anonymous No.11070539]

>>11070530
>Imagine coping that much lmao.

[Anonymous No.11070544]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4135698/The-Amazon-tribe-kills-eats-monkeys.html

[Anonymous No.11070546]

>>11070538
>NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO ME AND POINT OUT THAT MY RACE IS ACTUALLY RETARDED AND IN LAST PLACE GLOBALL
I'm actually asian. I just like to defend blacks because they're allies of china. We'll do em good, unlike you whites

[Anonymous No.11070547]

>>11070527
Lynn's numbers aren't faulty just more representative if African environment.

[Anonymous No.11070553]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/03/27/archaeologists-discover-81-ancient-settlements-in-the-amazon/

Not a single ancient settlement has been discovered in Black Africa.
>>11070546
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/world/africa/kenya-china-racism.html

[Anonymous No.11070555]

>there's a literal pajeet in this thread pretending to be a white supremacist
the self hatred is real. I apologize for the cringe guys. I'm indian too much that's how it is. We have people like him

[Anonymous No.11070557]

>>11070536
>The real number cannot be 80
but it is
here's som Lynn-isms

>Lynn's methods in selecting samples remain unsystematic; he isinconsistent in his reasons to exclude samples, and too unspecifictoallow replication by independent raters. For instance, Lynn rejectedone sample (Raveau, Elster, & Lecoutre, 1976, MIQ=77) on thegrounds that it was comprised of immigrants, but included anothersample of immigrants (Kaniel & Fisherman, 1991, MIQ=68), althoughit was comprised of illiterate Ethiopian Jews, who are generallyconsidered to be unrepresentative of the Ethiopian population. Lynnexcluded adult applicants for unspecified jobs (Taylor, 2008,MIQ=75), because he judged them to be unrepresentative for reasonsnot given. Lynn included numerous other samples composed of professional workers (e.g.,Berlioz, 1955, MIQ=64). Lynn excludedsome samples (Pons, 1974, MIQ=84) because of coaching, butadmitted other samples which were also coached (Knoetze, Bass, &Steele, 2005, MIQ=71). Also, Lynn considered two samples to beunrepresentative simply because of a high average IQ (Daley, Whaley,Sigman, Espinosa, & Neumann, 2003; Okunrotifa, 1976).

>>11070547
here's your (You)

[Anonymous No.11070559]

>>11070531
Holy shit. This much SEETHING.

[Anonymous No.11070560]

>>11070546

>We'll do em good

Oh no anon, they'll be doing you good. You're going to learn just how unproductive it is to deal with them.

[Anonymous No.11070562]

>>11070553
american propaganda. No racism between chinese and africans.

>>11070559
it's pretty pathetic to see pajeets with white supremacists desu senpai

[Anonymous No.11070564]

https://www.theyucatantimes.com/2016/02/belize-ranks-3-of-10-countries-with-worlds-highest-murder-rates/

>only black majority country in Mesoamerica
>3rd highest murder rate on earth

You literally cant make this shit up.
>>11070557
No it simply cannot be 80 reality doesnt agree with that at all, there is no way in fuck africans are as intelligent as native americans.

[Anonymous No.11070568]

>>11070560
Nah china isn't racist.
There's no issues. We don't exploit.

[Anonymous No.11070571]

>>11070557
Based Wicherts BTFOing environmentalist scum.

[Anonymous No.11070572]

>>11070562
Pajeets hating blacks has nothing to do with liking whitey you idiot.
https://www.youthkiawaaz.com/2019/01/indians-are-the-biggest-racist-people/

[Anonymous No.11070576]

>>11070568

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[Anonymous No.11070578]

>>11070546
You should watch "Empire of dust" antman, soon your people will understand why White people have given up on Africa and only care to keep things somewhat stable for the sake of mineral extraction.

[Anonymous No.11070581]

>>11070572
Pajeets are far too proud.

[Anonymous No.11070584]

>>11070564
Native american genotypical IQ isn't 80 lmao, that's the point.

The Mesoamerican Indians had cities libraries and civilization.

[Anonymous No.11070588]

>>11070584

>and no recorded history for Europeans to work with so they had to settle for patching together mesoamerican history with their own advanced detective work and paleontology

[Anonymous No.11070589]

>>11070557
International test scores line up more with Lynn's numbers.

[Anonymous No.11070591]

>>11070584
>Native american genotypical IQ isn't 80 lmao, that's the point.
>The Mesoamerican Indians had cities libraries and civilization.

So people with an IQ of 80 are incapable of having libraries?

[Anonymous No.11070593]

>>11070584
Native American IQ ranges from Amazon 84 to Inuit 100. The bottom line is most natives have IQs in the high 80s which is unexpected of non white/asian eurasians. The idea that niggers are as smart as them is completely absurd, the only race with intelligence comparable to blacks are Aboriginals and Papuans. These races also have the same pattern as blacks DOING ABSOLUTELY JACKSHIT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, HAVING ONLY PALEOLITHIC LEVEL TECHNOLOGY, AND CAUSING ABSURD VIOLENT CRIME WHEREVER THEY EXIST.

[Anonymous No.11070596]

>>11070591
according to >>11070564, yes since " there is no way in fuck africans are as intelligent as native americans."

i really hope it's not you who made this post

[Anonymous No.11070598]

>>11070048
To be fair, public schools in Kenya are probably better than in America

[Anonymous No.11070603]

>>11067059
India got 99 in uk?

[Anonymous No.11070605]

>>11070589
>if i select this specific test and post it on my unz blog, surely that's better than the wicherts meta analysis that includes hundreds of studies and over 35 thousand samples

[Anonymous No.11070608]

>>11070596
Reality doesnt agree with that because blacks in Mesoamerica do not do better than indios in Mesoamerica meaning they are dumber than them. Its really weird you cant find black excellence outside of the west because blacks have their hand held in the west. Outside the west they are left on their own and their true feral subhuman brainlessness becomes very obvious. Asians prove it is possible for a minority to academically outcompete a majority so the questions is why cant niggers outcompete hispanics and indios in Latin America?

Simple they are dumb as shit compared to those people. You want a nice redpill? Dominican Republic confirms blacks are feral retards compared to those with eurasian blood. Haiti is the purest african area in the west indies meaning we can use them as a representation of non mixed negro intelligence and look at the state of its academics compared to the rest of the west indies which are still violent shitholes like Jamaica or Trinidad. The IQs of Jamaica and Trinidad are in the low 70s and they have around 5% white DNA showing even a minute amount of whitey blood can boost negro intelligence.

[Anonymous No.11070611]

>>11070598
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Jamhuri-Nairobi-school-stab-closed-fight/2558-4276756-wode42/index.html

[Anonymous No.11070612]

>>11070593
>84 to Inuit 100
that range does not include 80, which is the black african IQ, so i don't know what the problem you're having is

[Anonymous No.11070615]

>>11070612
80 is still too high for black africans on average.

[Anonymous No.11070618]

>>11070611
Scary stuff. Thank goodness there are never incidents of mass mindless violence in American schools

[Anonymous No.11070621]

>>11070357
Ukraine - former soviet bloc, torn between Russia and Nato economically, incredibly corrupt post communist collapse. At least it's not Moldova.
Botswana - resource extraction country that is run by proxy by China/Euro corporations. The locals aren't creating a thriving service economy.

You can use your intuition to work out where massive future growth is going to be in the future - Vietnam, Burma and Ukraine all have IQs near 100 and if they ever sort themselves politically will be growth rockets. Buy in at the ground floor.

[Anonymous No.11070625]

>>11070572
take a look at yourself poo
you're no better
you only can get into euro and western nations by cheating on exams then faking your resume for H1Bs

[Anonymous No.11070626]

>>11070605
>if i select this specific test and post it on my unz blog
Holy fuck this is next level of cope.
Do you even realize that Wichert also discarded studies he didn't like? Do you even realize that using Wicherts numbers goes against your narrative?
I know what your answers would be but it's still fun to see how you respond.

[Anonymous No.11070627]

Enough with the studies that exist to create a narrative that blacks are A OK and you should let them invade your nations. Lets use reality to gauge them.

1.They are the oldest humans on this planet
2.A young race the north african developed civilization long before them
3.They barely invented shit even in Ethiopia or West Africa
4.They domesticated no animals
5.They have ridiculously low academics wherever they exist on average
6.They always create violent criminal cultures outside of Africa wherever they exist
7.Their heads are sloped indicating defective frontal lobes
8.They cause disproportionate crime compared to the majority in all nations they inhabit that are not negro.
>>11070618
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7250219/Bronx-teen-guilty-manslaughter-stabbing-classmate-death.html

Look at the race of the perp.

[Anonymous No.11070631]

>>11070625
Pajeets are the union of horse people and the Abo cousins thousands of years ago so that makes them smarter than blacks by default because they have Caucasoid admixture while blacks have none.

[Anonymous No.11070640]

>>11070626
>Do you even realize that Wichert also discarded studies he didn't like?
No he didn't. His criteria are clear and systematic unlike >>11070557

>Do you even realize that using Wicherts numbers goes against your narrative?
What narrative you mong, that African IQ is 80 and their genotypic IQ is in the 80-85 range?
It's just the truth, I don't give a shit about your ideologies.
>>11070615
based on you eyeballing 'istree or what

[Anonymous No.11070642]

>>11070627

It's ok anon. This era is an anomaly and people can only suppress reality with propaganda for so long before the pendulum swings back the other way. Europeans aren't as tolerant and guilt ridden as Americans, they'll close up their borders sooner rather than later.

As for my country here in the USA, who knows. We're basically destined to be Brazil Lite and there's no way around that.

[Anonymous No.11070646]

Good analysis of over 40 indian IQ studies here
https://raceandiqmyths.blogspot.com/2016/12/average-iq-of-india-and-iq-map-of-india.html?m=1

[Anonymous No.11070647]

>>11070627
Okay I take it back. Kenyan schools are not better than American schools, they are pretty much the same

[Anonymous No.11070651]

>>11070640
Imagine if someone told you a macaque is smarter than a chimp because of muh studies thats how you sound trying to say blacks are close to native american in intelligence.
>>11070642
America is destined to become Mexico not Brazil, spics hate niggers to the point they try to genocide them. Brazil only happened because indios were forced by whites to breed with blacks.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/01/15/latino-gang-leader-convicted-la-ethnic-cleansing-campaign

[Anonymous No.11070656]

>>11067026
Exactly, that's why then they measure the Ashkenazi and Asian IQ's only from the elite school while for white people they did the below average people and latinos, arabs and even some africans are considered white.

[Anonymous No.11070666]

>>11070651

The country is already 13% black, that isn't going to disappear. It will all be one big muddy admixture with a light skinned upper class like every other multiculti shithole.

Who knows, maybe that will make being rich easier for myself and my progeny.

[Anonymous No.11070667]

>>11070666
the upper class in america will indeed be majority white due to white absolute numbers
Yet indians and asians will always be disproportionately upper class in the US

[Anonymous No.11070669]

>>11070666
>It will all be one big muddy admixture with a light skinned upper class like every other multiculti shithole.
>will

[Anonymous No.11070671]

>>11070640
>No he didn't. His criteria are clear and systematic
If you at least read Wicherts (or better Lynn's responses to him) you would know that Wicherts excluded studies of people with malaria, parasites or malnourished people. While Lynn did include them because those are relevant environmental factors in Africa. This was their point of contention which you would know if you read the studies.

>What narrative you mong,
This>>11070048 You are shooting yourself in the foot and giving opportunity to genetic determinists by pushing Wicherts numbers.

> that African IQ is 80 and their genotypic IQ is in the 80-85 range?
US blacks have an IQ of 85 and 25% European admixture. So their genotyipc IQ certainly isnt 85.

>based on you eyeballing 'istree or what
I didnt say that.

[Anonymous No.11070673]

>>11070666
The negro population will plummet once spics redirect all welfare to only mexicans, they dont give flying fuck about blacks. Blacks will be a power less criminal menace ignored just as how blacks in Latin America outside of Belize and Brazil are right now.

[Anonymous No.11070691]

>>11070671
> This was their point of contention which you would know if you read the studies.
No it wasn't. For the tenth time.
The point was Lynn was unsystematic as fuck as I posted here >>11070557
>>11070238
and this guy >>11069158

Just read my frogpost. I know the formatting is fucked but still.

[Anonymous No.11070716]

>>11070691
>No it wasn't. For the tenth time.
Yes it was. From your beloved Wicherts:
>Thefirst problem with these data is that the studies were mainlyconcerned with the effect of intestinal parasites (Boivin &Giordani, 1993) and malaria (Boivin et al., 1993)
>and Lynn and Vanhanen (2006)alsoconsidered the scores in a sample of 184 Kenyan rural child-ren, who all suffered from malaria

Please, stop embarrassing yourself. You clearly don't know what the debate is about.

>The point was Lynn was unsystematic as fuck as I posted here
And here I showed why that is>>11069868
Besides, Wicherts also excluded some studies of he didnt like and people who suffered from malaria and so on. For example:
>Ferron (1965) refers to a study by Dunstan (1961, cited in Ferron, 1965) on a sample of “over 400” form I students in Freetown, Sierra Leone. These students took one of the Moray House Tests (no. 44) and Ferron indicated that their mental-age IQ was around 77.8 (i.e., they had a chronological age of 13.5 and a mental-age of 10.5). Ferron indicated that Dunstan reported problems during test administration and a “language handicap”. These data do not meet our inclusion criteria
You could make similar neat little graphs also for studies that Wicherts excluded.

[Anonymous No.11070718]

>>11070716
>And here I showed why that is>>11069868(You)
Meant this>>11069642

[Anonymous No.11070747]

>>11070716
You are scientifically illiterate about papers.

The difference is that Wicherts had inclusion criteria
literally section 3.2 is called "Our inclusion criteria" - you may dislike them, but it's systematic.
Lynn has no such criteria. The only systematic thing about his exclusion is 'too high, can't be'.

And no, malaria patients are not representative just because malaria is more common in Africa.
>>11070718
Not exclusion criteria, but ad hoc exclusion.

See, the difference between me and you is that I'm ok with reality. While your ass is on fire because blacks having an IQ of 80 (not in any way impressive) literally invalidates half your infographics and colored world maps and shit.

I wonder what would happen if wicherts et al did something similar for Indian tests. Like this blogger>>11070646 attempted to do. Regardless, one day it will happen and your shitty meme maps begin to unravel.

[Anonymous No.11070755]

>>11070747
>blacks having an IQ of 80 (not in any way impressive) literally invalidates half your infographics
Dude, an IQ of 80 was considered severely mentally retarded until the 90's

[Anonymous No.11070767]

us army imposes a rough minimum IQ of about 83 to be able to function within an army
if your average population's IQ is below that level then less than half your people are able to function even at a basic level within the military...

[Anonymous No.11070782]

>>11070747
>The difference is that Wicherts had inclusion criteria
>literally section 3.2 is called "Our inclusion criteria" - you may dislike them, but it's systematic.
>Lynn has no such criteria. The only systematic thing about his exclusion is 'too high, can't be'.
Yes, and if you actually read them, you would know that one of those criteria was "too unhealthy, can't be" (3.2.5). This is pure delusion since Africa is ridden with things like malaria, parasites or famines. Excluding those means excluding relevant part of Africa.

>See, the difference between me and you is that I'm ok with reality. While your ass is on fire because blacks having an IQ of 80 (not in any way impressive) literally invalidates half your infographics and colored world maps and shit.
>I wonder what would happen if wicherts et al did something similar for Indian tests. Like this blogger>>11070646 attempted to do. Regardless, one day it will happen and your shitty meme maps begin to unravel.

The biggest irony of all this is that if you were right and African IQ is indeed 80 it would be like Christmas for hereditarians and /pol/ types. It would mean that IQ remains the same no matter how shitty/prosperous your environment is. And that genes are all that matters. Like I described here.>>11070048. Even if it would invalidate our colored maps. (and it would put the end to discussions whether IQ is genetic and how much it can improve)
I don't really know why you are doing this. Whether you consider 70IQ for africans too offensive and you want to stand up for them. Or you just hate /pol/ and go against everything they say by default. But I know it certainly isn't because you are okay with reality. Either way, I hope you are right. And if you had any brain left, you would hope that you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.11070827]

>>11070782
How would it be Christmas for them? The excuse they use against civnats is "muh regression". If IQ were 100% genetic then white trash would theoretically not exist or rather oscillate across the nation

[Anonymous No.11070843]

>>11070827
>white trash is a symptom of low IQ and not a welfare state
???

[Anonymous No.11070862]

>>11070843
Yes?

[Anonymous No.11070866]

>>11070862
Well thanks for letting everybody know you're socially retarded. Not that it's outside expectations.

[Anonymous No.11070870]

>>11070827
>How would it be Christmas for them?
It would mean that IQ can not be improved and that whether you live in deprived third world or rich first world your IQ is the same thus genes play the only role not environment. And since 80 is pretty low IQ anyway it is enough to justify ending African immigration or to segregate them. Or to very least stop integrating them in white schools and neighborhoods. And also it would justify abolishing affirmative action since your intelligence is pretty much fixed.

>The excuse they use against civnats is "muh regression". If IQ were 100% genetic then white trash would theoretically not exist or rather oscillate across the nation
no idea what you mean by this. Existence of white trash has nothing to do with whether you IQ is improvable or not.

[Anonymous No.11071017]

>>11070870
Well the absolute potential limit of their intelligence is pretty much genetically fixed, no matter the diet, medical or educational resources expended it won't rise much above that performance plateau.

[Anonymous No.11071057]

>>11067026
>anon discovers that IQ is a meme
More news at eleven.

[Anonymous No.11071106]

Can anyone give me a single solid scientific study that shows all 'races' are completely equal in intelligence?

non memeing I am retard

[Anonymous No.11071108]

>>11067026
What makes it fake anon?

[Anonymous No.11071131]

>>11071106
They can't but no one would really deny that blacks have IQ 15 points lower than we do, it's just whether this gap is genetic or to what degree it can be changed.

[Anonymous No.11071148]

>>11071131
Why don't we try the equality solution as they trialed in 1984 and use chemical or electrical devices to bring the unfair intelligence of high performing races down to the average level of blacks so that everyone can fit in together equally because equality is fair and it's completely unfair that other races have such an advantage over blacks?

[Anonymous No.11071151]

>>11071131

No authority has been brave enough to step forward and just say it. But I will, and I'm comfortably settled on the matter.

There is no such thing as a developed black-run country. Blacks the world over get lower IQ and testing scores. Blacks have the worst economies. Blacks have some of the highest rates of violent crime. Blacks in the US not only score worse than white and asian peers, rich blacks score worse than poor whites. Black adoptees in wealthy families score worse than white peers.

The literature is all but settled. All that remains are feelings and leftist agendas that demand a dogmatic belief in the inherent and total equality of all people, genders, races, etc. But that is fiction.

Even the hardest liberals will subconsciously acknowledge this schism. They'll avoid living in black neighborhoods, teaching at black schools, and treat blacks like babies. This is the truth, it's the current society that is in denial of it. Denial helps no one, not even blacks.

[Anonymous No.11071168]

>>11071151
Yes and since there will be coming out studies in near future identifying specific intelligence related genes and how much those genes are presented in certain population over others it will get even worse to argue against it.
This whole race and IQ debate is coming to an end and it's not looking good for the egalitarian side.

[Anonymous No.11071209]

>>11071106
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.10544.pdf

[Anonymous No.11071215]

>>11071209
>Our results support that socio-economic variables have major impact on student’s performance in both mathematics and writingexaminations irrespectively of ethnic backgrounds, giving evidence that genetic factors have little orno effect on ethnic group performance when students are exposed to similar cultural and financialcontexts.

What a retarded conclusion to make. Students with higher SES scoring higher regardless of what race they are doesn't mean genetic factors don't play a role.

[Anonymous No.11071223]

>>11071215
The conclusion is based on the fact that given these equal conditions all races perform equally

[Anonymous No.11071225]

>>11071223
Yeah but so what? Whites are more likely to be from high SES than blacks. There is no reason to suppose genetic factors dont play a role here.

[Anonymous No.11071231]

>>11071225
I've frequently seen a chart posted that shows SAT by race and income where blacks with $200,000 annual income score the same as whites with $20,000 annual income

[Anonymous No.11071340]

the problem with the SES argument is that since IQ is 60-80% heritable and income is correlated with IQ then then SES of the parents will reflect their IQ and unless you are going to force everyone to be educated in the same way by the state with the same resources you can't really separate the effects very easily.
maybe there are IQ or exam result studies from communist block countries that tried that misguided policy?

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[Anonymous No.11071965]

>>11071106
Any study that says they're equal is wrong. All evidence and theory (genetics, evolution, brain size, IQ, achievement gaps...) say they're unequal. The only real question is how big the gaps are.

[Anonymous No.11072016]

>>11071215
>Students
Real issue in the genes v environment iq debate is the answer's age dependent. Looking at infants and students environment is a big factor but at adulthood it's basically all genetic.