/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11057279]

Why aren't races/ethnicities considered to be separate human subspecies if they noticeably have distinct phenotypes?

[Anonymous No.11057290]

>>11057279
because the entirety of the late-19th and 20th centuries

[Anonymous No.11057294]

>>11057279
ITT
>There's not enough difference
>Historical reasons
>Jews

[Anonymous No.11057295]

>>11057279
because humans of different races mingle and breed with each other

[Anonymous No.11057316]

>>11057279
because dumb racist rednecks still are barely human

[Anonymous No.11057325]

>>11057316

[Anonymous No.11057347]

>>11057316
Yup
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3737365/

[Anonymous No.11057350]

>>11057279
Another one?
Another fucking IQ thread?
When are you going to be satisfied? Faggot.

[Anonymous No.11057355]

>>11057279
the split isn't between races. it is between chads, tyrones, chadpreets, changs, etc and stacys and rest of us. they are the real enemy, not people with different skin color.

[Anonymous No.11057377]

>>11057279
>>11057294
>>11057295
Wolves (red and gray), dogs, and coyotes are all technically the "same species," since there is unrestricted fertility among them.
Yet the US government considers red wolves a protected, endangered species, and even tries to prevent other canid subspecies like coyotes from interbreeding with it:
>https://www.fws.gov/southeast/wildlife/mammals/red-wolf/

[Anonymous No.11057393]

>>11057279
They used to be classified as separate subspecies prior to the events of the 20th century.
But the distinction based on phenotype is problematic. Example: Mongoloids and Australoids aren't that far apart genetically (take PCA charts of autosomal DNA for reference) but they look very different phenotypically. Australoids are in fact the least related group to SSA Negroids, yet usually they get lumped together due to superficially similar traits.

[Anonymous No.11057409]

>>11057377
Why should I give a shit?

[Anonymous No.11057484]

>>11057279
The Hutus labelled the Tutsis as inferior subhumans and committed a huge genocide of them. So that's probably the reason why

[Anonymous No.11057488]

because we need to unite the goyim under one global consumerist culture

[Anonymous No.11057491]

>>11057347

>The message of these figures is both that there was some admixture with archaic human populations in the past and also that Africans have been separated from the rest of humanity for a long period of time with no genetic interchange. Africans in these figures are clearly presented as a distinct lineage of human evolution; that is, a separate race.

LMAO. and then at the end they are basically saying "n-no...dont believe these racist!"

[Anonymous No.11057563]

>>11057347
>Alan R. Templeton
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Templeton
>"Alan R. Templeton is an American geneticist and statistician at Washington University in St. Louis ... and also at the University of Haifa"
>Haifa (Hebrew: חֵיפָה Ḥefa [χeˈfa]; Arabic: حيفا Ḥayfa)[2] is the third-largest city in Israel
Every single time.

[Anonymous No.11057567]

>>11057295
>>11057377
There's no one size fits all definition of a species. Taxonomists consider a number of factors.
Sometimes it's about who you can breed with. Sometimes it's about who you can produce fertile offspring with.
Sometimes it's phenotype.

[Anonymous No.11057591]

>>11057279
Because whites are wired to hate other races. It's a nice paradox:

Whites claim there are no races.

All you need to do to get accepted is to behave like whites.

White's thinking and emotions are distinctly different.

Therefore can't easily behave like the white race, and thus get rejected.

Pointing out this is because of race makes you labelled a racist and also rejected.

Basically there is no way out, you are get labelled as morally inferior no matter what choice you make unless you carry the white thinking gene. Which is how white people operate - label whoever see as a competition morally wrong, then using it as a free pass to destroy them. It isn't that much different from the past centuries, only the mental gymnastics get more elaborate. Never trust white people, honest people are not allowed to live among them.

[Anonymous No.11057597]

>>11057279

They can interbreed and the offspring is fertile. Human genetic variation is shockingly low.

[Anonymous No.11057601]

>>11057377

Most wolves nowadays already have dog DNA in them.

[Anonymous No.11057626]

>>11057601
How would you be able to tell?

[Anonymous No.11057634]

>>11057393
>yet usually they get lumped together
Actually they don't.

[Anonymous No.11057638]

>>11057597
>Human genetic variation is shockingly low.
Compared with other species with recognized subspecies, it's not.

[Anonymous No.11057722]

>>11057563
like clockwork lmao

[Anonymous No.11057730]

>>11057722
>Imagine wasting your free time on a Chinese basket weaving forum to find a single jew author to show to complete strangles. only to get one reply of someone making fun of you

[Anonymous No.11057795]

>>11057730
>only to get one reply of someone making fun of you
The comment is clearly not making fun of him but asserting his comment. Learn to read and accurately connect the dots before posting.

[Anonymous No.11057808]

>>11057591
>uses white technology
>complains about whites
Either shitbait or actual mental midget.

[Anonymous No.11057830]

>>11057808

Your picture is a bad-faith example because white people didn't do that, and everyone knows that they didn't.

[Anonymous No.11057837]

>>11057830
present proofs tovarish

[Anonymous No.11057902]

>>11057808
Virtually all that technology was made by Jews and Aspies. You shamelessly use their technology, despite ostracizing them, bullying them and even killing them. The mojority of whites is completely incapable of thinkling up anything whatsoever. It's you who shouldn't be using the technology.

[Anonymous No.11057908]

>>11057902
>virtualy all that technology was made by jews and aspies
Nice source

[Anonymous No.11057967]

>>11057601
like americans and blacks?
cool
>>11057279
I've noticed distinct phenotypes among people. In specific, I've noticed distinct facial and physical geometry that are distinct enough for me to organize people within.
American blacks look very different than Africans that live here, and even the Africans look different based on where they come from. And even within those groups they can look different, how ever the distinct proportions of those groups at the end tend to not be exhibited in other groups except for their own. I've seen big, fat, and tall somalis, and short skinny ones, however despite one being more pronounced and the other being chubby and round, it was obvious they had similar skull shapes. However I've encountered a longer skulled somali, who was also short and skinny, but the upper features were still very similar, that is the brow ridge, hair color (an important note since black americans can sometimes have lighter hair colors like dark brown as opposed to white), but a long chin and wider forehead, not only having more exposed forehead but also the width itself being very wide and pronounced. The noses were very similar with the long faced guy simply having a longer nose, but same shape
Ethiopian women I've encountered can either have a short rounded chin with minimal curves to extremely skinny, or the ones I perfer ;) with the not long but more pointed and pronounced, with a button nose opposed to a flattened or arrowed shaped one, and most noticeably is the INSANE natural curves, LIKE DAMN this the type of shit that would cripple a man.
Black Americans can vary but usually not because of different african heritage (they will only differentiations by percentage of Congolese, Nigerian, or Jamaican, with jamaicans tending to be more pure in their heritage)., but rather they'll differ based on their white admixtures. True mutts. They'll differ greatly among each other because they are mutts. etc. etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.11057970]

>>11057967
That's right, Americans are wolves. Thank you

[Anonymous No.11058707]

>>11057795
No I was making fun of him

[Anonymous No.11060098]

>>11057567
sometimes it's just location

[Anonymous No.11060112]

>>11057902
Ashkenazi Jews are white and no vast majority was whites but Jews still played a decent roll

[Anonymous No.11060131]

>>11057591
>expecting nigs to refrain from stealing and chimping is racist

So this is the power of critical race theory?

[Anonymous No.11060163]

>>11057967
Literally all black people can tell if another black person is African or not.

[Anonymous No.11060321]

>>11057902
The Jews part seems redundant just say Aspies

[Anonymous No.11062398]

>>11060321
Aspergers is not restricted to Jews alone.

[Anonymous No.11062416]

>>11057591
>the white thinking gene
That being the gene that makes you not behave like a subhuman?

[Anonymous No.11062609]

>>11057316
low iq post

[Anonymous No.11062666]

>>11060321
I wish I were jewish so I could be successful

[Anonymous No.11062669]

>>11062666
Convert, goy

[Anonymous No.11062995]

>>11062609
run along back home now or you'll miss the banjo duel

[Anonymous No.11063061]

the thing that always happens with these /pol/threads is that all the traits they claim make them superior are traits Asians perform better at

[Anonymous No.11063116]

>>11062669
No matter how much he works, he'll never gain the phenotype.

[Anonymous No.11063215]

>>11062995
>banjo duel
That sounds pretty cool.
I kinda wish I was a redneck now.

[Anonymous No.11063232]

>>11057279
>aren't
>implying
I make my own decisions about that

[Anonymous No.11063590]

>>11062666
>those trips
You're not fooling me this time.

[Anonymous No.11063635]

>>11063061

They don't consider asians human so it doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.11063940]

>>11057316
You have to be 18 to post on this board retard

[Anonymous No.11063971]

>>11057279
>race/ethnicities
if anything ethnicities would be a level under "race/subspecie". As in the following:
Domain > Kingdom > Phylum > Class > Order > Family > Genus > Specie > Subspecie (race) > ethnicity (in the case of humans and sociable animals living on a large enough territory to have groups forming)

[Anonymous No.11063999]

>>11057902
Ashkenazis are eastern euros larping as hebrews.
Most of the technology was still made by other europeans anyway, the jews had a golden age of contribution in science between the two world wars but they were enabled by european civilization and infrastructures.

Besides it ended quickly and boomer jews have a way lower rate of contribution to STEM fields compared to their fathers which is even lower when it comes to millenials (just look at your STEM classes, it's full of asians, indians, arabs and whites but jews are a rarity). Just check the Nobels.
Today jews are found predominently in finance, medias, politics and entertainment.

[Anonymous No.11064004]

>>11063215
>doesn't get the reference
aww it's retarded

[Anonymous No.11064008]

>>11057279
The word "race" means "subspecies" you moron.

[Anonymous No.11064195]

>>11063999
>Finance, medias, politics and entertainment.
Is it that shocking if you think about it? The dumb kikes are practically consumed by their greed. Of course it would eventually devour them, there wasn't any surprise to begin with.

Not to mention that most of their "innovations" can't be entirely put on them, but on teams which has been predominantly made of whites.

[Anonymous No.11064217]

>>11057967
>Ethiopian women I've encountered
> or the ones I perfer ;)

Damn, I know. Ethiopian girls are really something, and I don't normally go for black women.

[Anonymous No.11064223]

>>11057279
because much feels

[Anonymous No.11065212]

>>11057347
>citing Templeton

[Anonymous No.11065239]

>>11057279
It's 2019 its our duty as human beings to erase all traces of racism from the world.

[Anonymous No.11065266]

>>11057279
Because that's not scientific and variation in appearance is greater on an individual, rather than racial continuum.

[Anonymous No.11065276]

>>11063061
this. whites are only the masters of milk chugging

[Anonymous No.11065289]

>>11057567
/thread

[Anonymous No.11065290]

>>11063061
>ctrl+f "superior"
>1 result
>your comment
hmmmm

[Anonymous No.11065354]

>>11063061
This. race iq threads are just /pol/cel cope

[Anonymous No.11065368]

>>11057347
>jew studies dont count!! give me a white study!!
>>11060112
>>11063999
>j-jews are white you g-guys
This is your brain on lactose

[Anonymous No.11065383]

>>11057279
because race isnt real you fuckin bigot!!!!! you are a white male and thus responsible for everything bad! just shut up!

https://youtu.be/COzVGRhSOuI

[Anonymous No.11065385]

>>11065368
Or maybe those are two different people? No, it's the /pol/ who is wrong.

[Anonymous No.11065388]

>>11057279
Let's use dogs as an analogy. Dogs have different races with very different preferences and behaviors and yet can still breed with dogs from other races. We could say that humans are smilar to dogs in this respect, having different human races in existence. However this analogy is not perfect because obviously we are not dogs and are capable of learning pro social behaviors. (Also have in mind that even between dogs of the same race there can be vastly different behaviors depending on many factors)

The problem with classifying humans by race then remains a political one. Even for all of our technological achievements, we as a species are still totally retarded and inept, socially and psychologically speaking.

If there is something that all human races have in common is discrimination and hate, even among those of the same race (remember the first world war?). Now to that add that the existence of genocidal and retarded maniacs that want to destroy everyone not like them for naturally retarded reasons; No human race in existence is innocent of genocide.

So, in order keep that bunch of retards in check and progress as a species is simply best to move our society beyond this simplistic divisions and strive for harmony.

Unfortunately, today's sjw forced a process that should have went more slowly, forcing an artificial diversity bullshit agenda, possibly hindering the long term achievement of a gradual unification of the species under goals and ideals that are mutually beneficial to everyone. Instead, thanks to them and their commie bullshit, now we got more retards calling for more genocide from all sides.

Fuck did I write a lot.

[Anonymous No.11065389]

>>11060112
>clearly from western asia
>white

[Anonymous No.11065399]

>>11057279
Subspecies don’t have any real definition aside from “kinda different” and phenotype doesn’t necessarily equate to subspecies.
Making worthless categories and putting things into them is pedantry and not science.

[Anonymous No.11066233]

>>11057808
I think you mean Chinese tech :)

[Anonymous No.11066238]

based kagameposter

[Anonymous No.11066254]

>>11057290
>>11057393
>it's because of the 20th century
what did he mean by this
>>11057484
>it's because of the Rwanda genocide
lmao
>>11065388
>we wanted to genocide all whites, but we accidentally genocided too fast and they figured it out
big if true
>>11065399
>its not easy so it must be impossible
does anyone seriously believe this, I wonder, or is it just a rhetorical trick

[Anonymous No.11066619]

>>11057377
that's what they're going to have to do w/ white people in 50 years.....

[Anonymous No.11066979]

>>11057393
>Australoids are in fact the least related group to SSA Negroids, yet usually they get lumped together due to superficially similar traits.
This is absolutely false. They were classified as different race from Africans upon first contact by Europeans.

[Anonymous No.11067021]

>>11066254
>'whites' complaining about '''white genocide'''.
>To lazy to go out, fuck, form a family and have 8 children.

If you really are worried about your race, take the proper steps and become a father a soon as possible.

[Anonymous No.11067041]

>>11067021
Why am I seeing this post? Why isn't my IQ filter working?

[Anonymous No.11067074]

>>11067021
Having children is likely to be counterproductive, but depends on the individual. You make yourself dependent and responsible to family that didn't exist previously and severely limits your options, and those children are likely to join general anti-racist culture anyway, so it was useless. There are better things to do to this end for many people.

[Anonymous No.11067089]

>>11066619
not really since white traits are recessive compared to negroid. Eventually after thousands of years white people will reemerge again.

[Anonymous No.11067095]

Your daily reminder that human races objectively exist, they are just called genetic clusters instead.

[Anonymous No.11067099]

>>11057591
>if I say nonsense about white ethnicity is not racist because its about cracka
Cringe

[Anonymous No.11067131]

>>11057279
Because you could potentially breed with any other living human

[Anonymous No.11067133]

>>11057591
Kek you're a fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.11067135]

>>11065290
Wrekt

[Anonymous No.11067138]

imagine if, instead of race, wh*te "scientists" were obsessed with disproving the existence of visual colors. We'd see so many low IQ papers about how:
>certain cultures have different classifications of colors
>some contrived color between two other colors cant be given a specific name
>there is more variance in the channel values within colors when accounting for brightness and hue than between them
>colors are an imperialist pseudoscientific concept

[Anonymous No.11067171]

>>11057279
Muh morals, blacks at the very least must be a subspecies based on how far away they are from everyone including Aboriginals INCLUDING ABORIGINALS. Blacks have so many differences compared to non blacks thats it insane to insist we are the same.

[Anonymous No.11067175]

>>11063061
Whites dont give a shit about feeling superior to other races, we need factual evidence to get blacks expelled from America thats all.

[Anonymous No.11067243]

>>11067138
If you told a computer to tell you how many colors there were it wouldn't be able to...

[Anonymous No.11067405]

>>11057377
Wolves look more majestic, coyotes like the Chinese knock-off, is the main difference.

[Anonymous No.11067490]

>>11067021
>triumphalist, sneering tone
You're only making things worse for yourself, in the long run.

[Anonymous No.11067735]

>>11067074
Maybe misunderstanding your argument, but you are basically making excuses about how is not convenient and excuse yourself with fatalists prospects like "they'll be sjws anyways". Just a lot of excuses.

[Anonymous No.11067747]

>>11067735
But am I wrong? It's not an effective way to fight the problem.

[Anonymous No.11067756]

>>11067095
Is this proof that native americans are the most evolved?

[Anonymous No.11067761]

>>11067747

Then, according to you what would be an effective way to attack the problem?

[Anonymous No.11067767]

>>11067761
Attack the power structure causing the problem, get rid of the active threat as opposed to somehow trying to cope or outfuck it.

[Anonymous No.11067769]

>>11067756
Nope, because living conditions during Ice Age in the Americas were much milder than in Europe/Northern Asia. So Native Americans are kind of devolved eastern Asians.

[Anonymous No.11067777]

>>11067767
Outfucking the threat is what historically worked the best, short of literal genocide. SJWs have low birth rates in general. They are a self-correcting problem. The only question is whether there will be any high IQ whites after they are gone.

[Anonymous No.11067791]

>>11067777
"SJWs" having low birthrates does not actually do anything about the strength of their ideology in general society. Media and educational instutions are rigged in a way that allow replacement of losses well enough. Overthrowing the political consensus and implementing our own is the only reliable approach.

[Anonymous No.11067806]

>>11067769
>devolved

[Anonymous No.11067838]

>>11067806
Yes, devolved. As in reduced average intelligence due to living in less demanding conditions than in Ice Age Asia.

>b-but evolution has no goal blah blah

Whatever helps you sleep at night,

[Anonymous No.11067874]

>>11063116
can always take the hasidim pill and grow out a beard and hair locks

[Anonymous No.11067963]

>>11065385
>No, it's the /pol/ who is wrong.

[Anonymous No.11067969]

>>11057830
>>11057902
Hmm. let me check 100% of my useful, practical devices at home. Yep; none of them made by jews or aspies, always northern, western, and northwestern Europeans. Big surprise

[Anonymous No.11067976]

>>11057279
There is a reason Jews do what they Jew
If the goyim remain stupid, the goyim must rely on the Jew

[Anonymous No.11068004]

>>11065389
That's also where the old Europeans came from. Look up the history of Ibdo-European people.

[Anonymous No.11068011]

>>11067138
But colors are a context-dependant thing. It's essentially an optical effect. Wavelength are quantitative, but not colors.

[Anonymous No.11068018]

>>11067767
That wont solve low birthrates among whites.

[Anonymous No.11068026]

>>11068004
That's true to an extent but remember that "indo european" is not a race but a language group. The truth about European prehistory is complicated because there was more than one migration into the continent.

Nothing on the scale of our current Great Replacement, however.

[Anonymous No.11068033]

>>11068018
Won't be a problem by the end of it.

[Anonymous No.11068035]

>>11068018
>replacing anti-life anti-marriage anti-parenthood jewish propaganda outlets and education camps with their exact opposite
>not helping white birthrates

[Anonymous No.11068137]

>>11068035
Black people get the most abortions. If you want more whites, you should be pro-abortion.

[Anonymous No.11068143]

>>11057279
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/toc/10968644/139/1

[Anonymous No.11068168]

>>11068035
Those are the consequences of modern living conditions. Ever heard of the demographic transition? SJW ideology and globohomo shilling follows it, it does not precede it.
If you want a real demographic change you should alter the very basis of the American economy first and foremost. Propaganda will then be modified accordingly. Marriage and childbearing are still massively shilled in the general population (twitter fags are a fringe case that only upper-middle class midwits listen to), yet it doesn't seem to help much.

>>11068026
Yes, that's the case, but the spread of Indo-European language can be used as a proxy (for lack of a better tool) for ancient European migration. Ultimately you're right that the story is hard to retrieve, but most evidence we have point towards our ancestors having come from Western Asia.

[Anonymous No.11068175]

>>11068137
Not him, but I am. I find the argument against abortion to be almost entirely emotional and illogical, and unconvincing as a result. There are legitimate arguments to be made, but WNs/natsocs/whatever don't make those.

[Anonymous No.11069054]

>>11057967
This guy knows his niggers

[Anonymous No.11069060]

>>11066254
whats your answer then retard

[Anonymous No.11069199]

>>11057279
Too similar to spit apart, the only exception I would make is the abos of australia, they are clearly in a very different mental place than the rest of humanity, have specific pretty significant adaptations to their natural lifestyle.

If any group of people should be given special protections it should be them, as most are not capable of modernizing.