Is this blue and black? Is it white and gold? Are people who report different experiences simply lying to feel superior? What's the scientific explanation behind this? I only see black and blue but I want to see white and gold. How can I?

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Anonymous Sun Oct 13 21:58:43 2019 No.11057076 [Reply] [Original]

Is this blue and black? Is it white and gold? Are people who report different experiences simply lying to feel superior? What's the scientific explanation behind this?
I only see black and blue but I want to see white and gold. How can I?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:01:24 2019 No.11057087 Laurel Yanny

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:03:00 2019 No.11057090 >>11057076 i see trees of green, red roses too, i see them bloom, for me and you and i think myself op is a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:03:30 2019 No.11057095 >>11057076 the camera recorded the white and gold dress as blue and black. no sense in arguing over who fucked up programming the camera firmware

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:04:44 2019 No.11057098 File: 788 B, 208x194, zoom.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ah yes. My favourite shade of blue.

Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:06:49 2019 No.11057102

>>11057076
Put your hand over the bright sunlight part of the photo, then look closely at the dress.
Your visual processing centre is editing in a shadow, because it's making a real world approximation of the image because it's "too bright" to look at, it's just an illusion. Crop out everything but the dress, should see white and blue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:07:49 2019 No.11057107 >>11057098 That's one of the supposed black/gold parts isn't it? I see what you were trying to do though >>11057095 >Although the actual color was eventually confirmed as blue and black,[3][4] Hmm...

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:07:57 2019 No.11057109 File: 241 KB, 986x1280, dress_color.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:08:24 2019 No.11057112 >>11057102 magical twitter thinking. it was just a camera glitch

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:11:19 2019 No.11057119 >>11057102 Unfortunately I can still only see blue although I'm able to perceive the black as gold but my bias tells me it's black

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:31:09 2019 No.11057157 >>11057076 >Is this blue and black? Is it white and gold? Your not saying dress but only showing a picture on a screen, which it is RGB. If you said dress it would be black and blue

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:33:33 2019 No.11057165 >>11057157 Thanks based autismo

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:36:51 2019 No.11057173 people saying its "white and gold" just lie to be contrarians

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:37:52 2019 No.11057175 File: 2 KB, 256x256, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057098 It is a nice shade of blue

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 22:45:31 2019 No.11057189 >>11057090 spbp

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 23:40:44 2019 No.11057277 >>11057173 they're not. stop being delusional, not everyone is a pathological liar like you

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 23:50:43 2019 No.11057303 Somebody post the video with the anime girl.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 23:52:20 2019 No.11057308 File: 194 KB, 1280x960, Wikipe-tan_wearing_The_Dress_reduced.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057303 not necessary

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 23:53:48 2019 No.11057312 >>11057076 I see blue and gold wtf

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 00:05:25 2019 No.11057330 >>11057087 At first I heard yanny but now all I hear is laurel

>>	Tuba Jam Mon Oct 14 00:21:02 2019 No.11057359 >>11057076 I see white and gold. >>11057087 >>11057330 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/16/upshot/audio-clip-yanny-laurel-debate.html I need to push the slider two spaces away from yanny to hear it, otherwise it's laurel. What about you?

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 00:28:55 2019 No.11057367

>>11057359
>I see white and gold.
interestingly, there was a study to suggest people who see white and gold have higher cognitive function due to more activity in the parietal and frontal lobes.
for the laurel vs. yanny thing, at first i heard yanny very clearly but even with this tool, the closest i get to yanny is "yelly" now, absolutely no sign of a nasal consonant. this only happened after i listened to manipulated recordings.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 02:40:32 2019 No.11057560 >>11057076 I used a color picker and it says it's yellow

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 03:26:39 2019 No.11057635 >>11057560 Do you use checkers for everything you need to interpret or are you just gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:03:43 2019 No.11057680 >>11057308 looks white on the right and blue on the left. The real question is, what people are more evolved? The ones who see left or the ones on the right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:04:45 2019 No.11057682 >>11057098 Someone explain how this looks black to certain people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:05:26 2019 No.11057684 >>11057680 yeah it's showing how prevalence of shading and luminosity affects our perception of colour not how evolved, but on what tangents are we taking?

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:08:12 2019 No.11057690
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>>11057682
because he took a few pixels from where i've drawn a square around and thus without contextual information related to the cherrypicked area, it looks gold. when we have the whole picture, we know it's black, it's just being affected by the sunlight

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:10:07 2019 No.11057693 >>11057682 Considering the dress is black in reality, it's not that surprising that people are able to correct for the lighting and see it as black.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:14:22 2019 No.11057701 >>11057076 its blue and black nigger

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:16:28 2019 No.11057705

>>11057690
>>11057693
>context changes gold to black for certain people
it must be people who can't focus on certain things in detail. Do they also think the sky is black and correct for the sunlight that turns it blue?
Because the sky is in fact black.
They live in eternal night?

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:17:19 2019 No.11057708
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>>11057076
>>11057682
It's blue and gold. This is one of many examples of how the jews seek to trick the masses into accepting a false premise, in this case a false dichotomy. Even when the answer is before their very eyes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:18:21 2019 No.11057710 >>11057076 It's blue and black, only retards who never heard of lighting say it's white and gold.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:19:50 2019 No.11057714 File: 180 KB, 425x520, 1568569592623.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057708 >le balanced centrist nazi pic related is you

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:20:59 2019 No.11057718

>>11057701
>>11057710
yes it was quite obvious even when i first saw it. i was surprised by how many people told me they saw white and gold but it was more fascinating than anything, how our sensory perceptions slightly differ to one another
>>11057705
the sky is blue due to blue light rays being scattered across tiny particles present within the atmosphere, that's not an illusion

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:24:36 2019 No.11057724 >>11057718 actually the sky is anything but blue which is why we see blue. In fact the sky is actually black if you correct for all the sunlight. There's probably people who can't see the blueness of the sky and live in eternal night

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:25:20 2019 No.11057725

>>11057708
ahh i see, so my sensory perception was tricked subliminally as i looked at the picture and my biology changed, rendering the picture as a fake version of reality?
by the way
>Although the actual color was eventually confirmed as blue and black,[3][4]

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:26:26 2019 No.11057728 >>11057724 >During daylight, the sky appears to be blue because air scatters more blue sunlight than red.[2][3][4][5] uh huh...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:26:43 2019 No.11057729 >>11057725 it was actually the jews changing your eyesight. damn them they're so fast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:27:39 2019 No.11057731 >>11057729 of course, even before i knew about the meme and i came across the picture, they plucked my eyes out and put in some robotic contraptions.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:28:05 2019 No.11057733

>>11057728
Light (which consists of all the colours of the spectrum (hence rainbows and the like), reflects. It bounces off objects. That's why we wear white to reflect the suns light to keep cooler and that's why black makes us hot, because it absorbs light. (Black in my opinion isn't a colour, or if it is, then it is made up of every colour in the spectrum, because it absorbs those colours and doesn't reflect any.

Using that maxim - of light being reflective and black being absorbent, then surely, in terms of the colours we see objects as (irrespective of the definition of the colour we give it as seen by individuals), then the viewed object must be every other colour than the colour it appears?!

So, if we view a red brick, that object is absorbing every colour of the spectrum, yet reflecting the colour red. Therefore it isn't red. The same would be said of any colour object... it is every colour than the one seen.
Obviously, different materials have the ability to reflect different light, therefore colours, and all other light must be reflected off that object, except where you have a black object, which absorbs ALL light.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:32:34 2019 No.11057740

>>11057733
you're misinterpreting the basis of how humans define what colour an object is. because an object absorbs certain spectrums of electromagnetism, does not mean these other colours become properties of the object, it is merely energy conversion and absorption. when a person defines the colour of an object, they're talking about the colour being reflected, not describing every single colour they can't see as that would be absurd and a waste of time

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:34:03 2019 No.11057742 >>11057740 of course of course. But the color being reflected is in fact WHITE AND GOLD

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:34:42 2019 No.11057746 >>11057102 changes nothing, still light blue and gold

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:37:27 2019 No.11057751 >>11057742 ok so you see white and gold. i wouldn't say you're wrong either, just that your sensory perception is slightly different to mine as i've always seen black and blue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:39:20 2019 No.11057754 >>11057751 do you really see >>11057098 as black and >>11057175 as blue? I only see the latter as blue but not the former as black

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:42:15 2019 No.11057757 >>11057635 >Do you use checkers for everything you need to interpret yes and my gay-o-meter is telling me you're a major fag.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:43:25 2019 No.11057759

>>11057754
i view the first one as gold because old mate cherrypicked an extremely tiny portion of the image, eliminating all surrounding colours and shades to simply it make it look like a gold blob. in the full picture, i can most definitely ascertain it is black because of the artificial light being reflected off the black material. re: >>11057690
the latter is blue

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:46:08 2019 No.11057765 >>11057759 >in the full picture, i can most definitely ascertain it is black sounds like deduction instead of perception

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:47:40 2019 No.11057768 >>11057759 >cherrypicked an extremely tiny portion of the image take the darkest part of the black and isolate it. Do you see it as black or a darker shade of gold?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:52:33 2019 No.11057779 The picture is objectively certain colours but watch this and you might get some insight into how your perception can change https://youtu.be/MJBfn07gZ30 sorry if you guys dont like youtube or some shit I am new

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:52:35 2019 No.11057780 File: 58 KB, 225x300, 1542302727938.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It looks black but there's a clear difference between real black and "black" which is actually gold compared to real black

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 04:57:01 2019 No.11057787 If you say you can see anything other than blue and black you are just straight up lying

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:01:38 2019 No.11057798 File: 285 KB, 787x370, 1560374708791.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057787 looks golden according to this checker

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:02:45 2019 No.11057801 >>11057768 these guys are wizards. They see things that aren't there or something

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:11:17 2019 No.11057818 >>11057798 this square is black to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:14:36 2019 No.11057824 File: 188 KB, 787x370, 1545189749837.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057818 That's weird. Because that square is not actually black.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:15:28 2019 No.11057826 >>11057824 nah it's black, just slightly lighter

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:17:51 2019 No.11057831 >>11057780 it's because of the artificial light reflecting from the black lace, but that doesn't mean it's not black

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:20:31 2019 No.11057838 There's an audio which is composed of two similar soundwaves that sound different. People have reported that they've heared different things. You probably heard of it. It's called "yanny and laurel".

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:22:00 2019 No.11057841 >>11057838 yeah at first i only heard yanny then i heard some recordings where someone had manipulated the frequencies to showcase the differences, now all i can hear is laurel, no matter what frequency

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:22:13 2019 No.11057844 File: 155 KB, 550x550, stupid_dress.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076 Regardless of what the real-life dress colour is - the dress in the picture is brown/gold & light blue

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:23:16 2019 No.11057847 >>11057844 that's not a how human mind interprets things. to let a computer decide how to think for you is peak decadence. what do you think the colour is without computer assistance?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:24:27 2019 No.11057851 >>11057714 >libtard logic

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:25:12 2019 No.11057856

>>11057826
so you have an extra darkness filter in your eyes?
What color are your eyes btw?
I wonder why you'd see dark brown as black.

>>11057847
it's a computer image though. I see what the computer displays on the screen. I dunno how you see stuff that isn't there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:26:05 2019 No.11057857 >>11057847 ive always seen it brown and blue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:26:15 2019 No.11057858 >>11057844 >BLUE actually looks silver and grey to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:28:26 2019 No.11057866 People who see it as black should post proof ITT: >no proof except "IT'S BLACK"

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:28:44 2019 No.11057868

>>11057856
>so you have an extra darkness filter in your eyes?
why can't you accept people have different experiences to you? are you aware of the term qualia? a single human experience can't be measured, only reported and described by the individual.
my eye colour has nothing to do with it, the iris doesn't affect perception in that way.
>I dunno how you see stuff that isn't there.
this exact statement is why the picture became viral in the first place. no one is trying to act special, it merely stems from some of the oldest philosophical questions in humanity; "what is reality?" "is your reality the same as mine?" "is reality more than just sensory perception?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:30:03 2019 No.11057870 >>11057868 no it's just that you probably see the world as darker than it actually is and have difficulty seeing the difference between dark brown and black

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:30:34 2019 No.11057872

>>11057857
even after taking into account the external light sources reflecting from the materials, altering the colours slightly in a way that raised these ambiguities in the first place?
>>11057866
im sorry i can't upload my human experience online. maybe when the human instrumentality project rolls around we can finally share our minds but right now it's not happening

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:31:13 2019 No.11057875 >>11057872 so you can't post proof but we can? Maybe it's because technology is on our side.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:32:28 2019 No.11057878 >>11057847 I get the mind interprets things differently - I was merely pointing out the actual colours. Well I did see white/light blue & gold during the day. Now that it's pitch black outside I think I see blue and black now...

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:36:40 2019 No.11057887 >>11057878 so these posters are sitting in their moms basement and don't have any lights on.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:37:18 2019 No.11057889

>>11057875
the artificial light source in the picture is reflecting from the black lace material on the dress, causing it to look lighter than it normally would, rendering it as a gold/brown shade. because of human cognition, we are able to deduce this is a electromagnetic phenomenon, causing the black to look lighter than it normally would in normal lighting conditions (and probably with a better camera). the question is "what colour is the dress?" not "what colour is the dress when it fulfills these particular conditions?" because then the second one you could say "well i ran it through this program and provided me information on the hue, luminosity, gamma and brightness and it told me that it was brown/gold" whereas the first one is just appealing to human perception; "what colour, in reality, is the dress?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:45:51 2019 No.11057909 >>11057889 in the image the dress is infact grey and gold. In real life, it could be something else. I'd have to see it to confirm it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:50:28 2019 No.11057920

>>11057909
>In real life, it could be something else.
indeed. the original question seems to have been misinterpreted as either "what colour is the dress when it fulfills these particular conditions?" or "what colour is the dress?" so to make it abundantly clear, i am asking about the dress specifically and not just in the context of this picture.
>Although the actual color was eventually confirmed as blue and black,[3][4]
what do you see when you have confirmation of the actual colour?

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:50:34 2019 No.11057921

>>11057872
>even after taking into account the external light sources reflecting from the materials, altering the colours slightly in a way that raised these ambiguities in the first place?

I looked at the image in every way imaginable under different lighting conditions and on different screens, but I never saw white or gold. Only blue and dark brown.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 05:52:06 2019 No.11057925 >>11057921 ok so the IMAGE of the dress looks dark brown but what do you make of the dress itself knowing that the image has been distorted in some way to raise these anomalies in experience?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:02:39 2019 No.11057940 >>11057920 The dress in the picture and the dress in real life are two different object. One is a picture and the other isn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:03:14 2019 No.11057942 >>11057925 I can't force myself to percieve what I know on an intellectual level, or separate the dress from it's surroundings

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:07:38 2019 No.11057944

>>11057940
but that's not what the question is. there aren't two different dresses, there is one dress and it exists in one colour palette. however it can exist in multiple conditions, one being the viral picture which has obvious distortions conceiving the discord of perception between many individuals.
>>11057942
>I can't force myself to percieve what I know on an intellectual level,
but again, the question is not "what colour is the dress when it fulfills these particular conditions?", it is "what colour is the dress?". ill elaborate on the second question to make it absolutely clear; "what colour is the dress, regardless of conditions of light the technology of the camera?"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:08:41 2019 No.11057947 >>11057944 >"what colour is the dress, regardless of conditions of light and the technology of the camera?" fixed my typo

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:12:05 2019 No.11057951

>>11057947
>"what colour is the dress, regardless of conditions of light and the technology of the camera?"
I cannot say. I suppose you guys are superior to us in that respect.
However it also seems you are more likely to misinterpret certain things because you find it hard to see what is actually shown to you

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:17:14 2019 No.11057962

>>11057951
>I suppose you guys are superior to us in that respect.
it is nothing like that, i figured it was a problem of semantics after people began to use computers to answer something for them, instead of using cognition.
>because you find it hard to see what is actually shown to you
that doesn't make sense because i did in fact interpret the dress's colour correctly when i first saw it and i always have because, not through my own volition, i deduced the artificial lighting conditions as distorting the picture so i was able to arrive at the correct conclusion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:19:47 2019 No.11057964 >>11057962 I mean you didn't take the image for what it is, you took it for what it could be. Your brain and eyes thought there was a deeper meaning behind it

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:21:32 2019 No.11057969 >>11057964 >I mean you didn't take the image for what it is but i did, it's a distorted piece of imagery that obviously has external forces compounding on it hence the great amount of discussion it generated

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:22:43 2019 No.11057973

>>11057947
Everyone who has looked at other pictures of the dress knows that the actual, real-life colour of the dress is blue and black. That’s not what people are arguing about.

We argue about the colour of the dress in the picture. People perceive it how they want. But the dark colour definitely isn’t black - it’s either brown or gold and the light colour definitely isn’t white - it’s either blue or grey.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:25:23 2019 No.11057976 >>11057969 but objectively the image shows a grey and gold dress. It's a picture of a black and blue dress. But objectively it doesn't actually show those colors. According to my eyes and the computers own objective testing.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:25:44 2019 No.11057977
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>>11057973
>We argue about the colour of the dress in the picture.
that's not where the argument started and that's not where the argument ended up, this is nitpicking at best because of course there are going to be artifacts in the picture that distort the original object.

pic related is dan gilroy. would he agree he's white? he most certainly looks white but look at the colour next to him, it's quite a dark brown. is this dan gilroy's true colour? no, it's an artifact in the video that merely bears this colour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:26:39 2019 No.11057980 >>11057977 that's actually kind of light brown. I get it, you guys see things as darker than they actually are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:26:46 2019 No.11057981 >>11057976 then you're shifting the goalposts because that's not where the problem started

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:27:09 2019 No.11057982 >>11057973 Just to the answers to both interpretations of the question are: >what colour is the actual dress? Blue and black >what colour is the dress in the picture? Brown or gold & blue or grey

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:27:53 2019 No.11057983 >>11057981 I'm shifting to what I want to discuss. There's no dispute about what the dress actually looks like IRL. >>11057982 this is truth. But there's people here that can still the dress as black instead of brown. Weird

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:30:14 2019 No.11057986 >>11057980 but you see my point? dan gilroy is not light brown, he's a caucasion male, but the video has artifacts that when cherrypicked, would suggest he's brown. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:30:28 2019 No.11057987 File: 103 KB, 531x1200, blue_black_gold_white.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076 I know the dress is Blue and Black but I see White and Gold.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:31:32 2019 No.11057990 File: 317 KB, 500x351, That dress.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076 The most pathetic thing is the people who argue over this to feel superior, but that's just the kinda website we're on

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:31:40 2019 No.11057991 >>11057977 You’re mixing up the colour white and the race - different things. No white person is actually white in colour.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:33:05 2019 No.11057994 >>11057991 ok but the colour on the right - is that a prime example of someone who is white caucasian or anglo?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:35:21 2019 No.11058005 >>11057994 Not a prime example, no

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:39:29 2019 No.11058014 File: 219 KB, 1289x1390, 1554062766348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057994 Actually Caucasians come from the Caucasus. And they look like pic related. They are not european

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:40:06 2019 No.11058018 >>11057987 i see white and gold in this picture but this is an extreme example. i think the original image is just lightning in a bottle for this sort of thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:41:09 2019 No.11058020 >>11058014 yes i know and they are still what an everyday person would refer to as "white". caucasus is europe by the way

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:45:46 2019 No.11058033 File: 21 KB, 648x147, 1569590814190.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058020 it's further east than turkey. I wouldn't call it europe. I'd call it asia considering how strict europeans are when it comes to letting people be white.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:49:36 2019 No.11058044

>>11058033
im more inclined to divide it based upon it's linguistic heritage, as, historically, in this area only the ancestral languages of the indo-european and indo-iranian langauges were spoken and in which all the inhabitants shared similar cultures and thus introduced to western europe.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:50:55 2019 No.11058048 >>11058044 Just because a black man speaks english doesn't make him english. WTF

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 06:52:36 2019 No.11058052 >>11058048 culture and language are heavily tied together. the europeans are all extremely similar culturally, due to historical ties through their language and social practices by their ancestors in the caucasus and beyond.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:03:22 2019 No.11058067 >>11057844 I'm not sure this accounts for lighting. I think the people who see blue black are seeing the dress as it would be in strong sunlight

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:14:09 2019 No.11058078

>There is currently no consensus on why the dress elicits such discordant colour perceptions among viewers,[29] though these have been confirmed and characterized in controlled experiments (described below). No synthetic stimuli have been constructed that are able to replicate the effect as clearly as the original image.
Huh, I remeber when it originally blew up but I never realised the image was actually so special. Bit spooky

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:14:24 2019 No.11058079 >>11057087 Yaurry

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:16:25 2019 No.11058080

>>11058078
>s the original authors of the photograph that sparked the viral phenomenon, Bleasdale and her partner Paul Jinks later expressed frustration and regret over being "completely left out from the story", including their lack of control over the story, the omission of their role in the discovery, and the commercial use of the photograph.[9]
>translation: WAAAAHHH WHY DIDN'T WE GET MONEY FOR DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING??! ::(((((((
fucking retarded greedy cunts tb h

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:25:11 2019 No.11058090 white and gold fags are just retarded simple as

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:26:46 2019 No.11058094 >>11058090 lol based

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 07:57:36 2019 No.11058134 >>11058090 you sound like a blue and black nonce lad

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 09:00:26 2019 No.11058267 >>11058134 Black and blue are the confirmed colours of the dress, retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 09:05:16 2019 No.11058273 >>11057076 Could colourblindness play a role in this? It impossible to imagine how people would see it as blue and black.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 09:06:31 2019 No.11058275 >>11057076 Could colourblindness play a role in this? It's impossible to imagine how people would see it as blue and black.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 09:21:47 2019 No.11058301 >>11058267 Appy days

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 09:40:16 2019 No.11058324 When I look at the thumbnail of that pic it looks black and blue. When I look at the full size it looks white and gold. Are the black / blue people phone posting brainlets?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 10:04:54 2019 No.11058365 >>11057866 the actual dress is black and blue IRL, even though it looks white and gold in the image

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 10:19:22 2019 No.11058382 >>11057087 I can hear both, but Yanny is more apparent to me. I still cannot fathom how anyone can see the dress as white/gold though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:02:58 2019 No.11058466 >>11057920 I know the real life dress is blue and black. I still see it as a brownish gold and a silvery white.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:05:54 2019 No.11058472

>>11057944
Dude, nobody cares about the dresses actual color. The image went viral because it has two pairs of colors in the same place simultaneously and different people would see different colors, or the same people at different times would report the colors 'switching'.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:11:18 2019 No.11058485

>>11057969
>it's a distorted piece of imagery that obviously has external forces compounding on it hence the great amount of discussion it generated
Then you failed to actually see the truth of the picture. There's no external interference. No one is quickly swapping colors of the picture on your computer when you look away. If you had even bothered to check, you'd know the colors in the picture are precisely the hue between the two colors people perceive it to be, and the same person can even see it differently from one moment to the next.
You're one of those rare people who had the entire concept fly right past them and thought people were discussing the RGB in the picture or the real life dress, when they were raising questions about sense perception.
Not only did you fail to see all the colors in the picture, you failed in seeing the entire point of why it went viral.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:32:33 2019 No.11058524 File: 1.90 MB, 500x500, spinning-optical-illusion.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Both dress colors can be seen by some. This image spins both directions for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:33:33 2019 No.11058526 >>11058524 >Both dress colors can be seen by some. I usually see it in gold and white at first, then it turns black and blue, but after that I can't switch back and see it the other way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:37:28 2019 No.11058535 File: 65 KB, 1200x514, sdfv2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058275 >It's impossible to imagine how people would see it as the actual colour wtf

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:38:31 2019 No.11058537 File: 99 KB, 1688x1030, pc.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058324 OP here. can confirm im on my pc

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:44:28 2019 No.11058546

>>11058485
>there's no external interference
there is, it's called a lightbulb since the picture was taken inside a store, filled with artificial lights, brighter than usual, since they are advertising products. im quite aware that the image was unedited in any way and also that it has to do with sense perception and the concept of colour vision.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 11:56:23 2019 No.11058570 >>11057109 Why do Japs love their little girls

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 12:00:34 2019 No.11058575 >>11058570 because they know that amerisharts love them

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 12:03:22 2019 No.11058584 >>11057087 laurel yearly

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 12:06:06 2019 No.11058594 File: 57 KB, 533x800, redhead.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058570 >Why do Japs love their little girls You DO NOT love (as a father) little girls??

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 14:37:58 2019 No.11058932 File: 6 KB, 28x211, blueandblack.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it looks blue and black if you're a retard who can't use contextual information

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 14:48:59 2019 No.11058949 >>11057076 There's no black in there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 14:52:47 2019 No.11058958 >>11057308 The dresses in that image are different. Bad example. Hold the left portions shut with your fingers to see it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 14:53:47 2019 No.11058959 >>11057359 There's clearly both in that clip intersecting each other.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 15:05:14 2019 No.11058997

>>11057844
The question was never "what RGB values are being shown in this image?" it's "What color is the dress?" Given the exposure of the image it's pretty clearly not white, and if the dark areas are gold, they're pretty dark gold.

I've got no idea how people think the dress is white and gold. I ONCE managed to hear "yanny" instead of "laurel", though not sure how and it never happened again, but I understand perception is not equal among all people. Just surprised that the difference could possibly be that great.

Using RGB values of the given image to determine the color of the dress is stupid though.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 15:09:37 2019 No.11059011

>>11057990
The difference is that there's no other part of the image that looks like it's had a blue filter applied, however the yellowish filter (or whatever term it is for when the light floods in a certain color, I don't photography) is apparently from the background. So.. People who see gold and white apparently can't understand context. As proven by the fact that the dress was actually blue and black.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 15:11:48 2019 No.11059019 >>11058997 It's not clear from the image whether it's exposed to the surrounding light or in the shadow. That's what confuses people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 17:34:44 2019 No.11059395 >>11059011 So you're saying that if I was more educated in 'context' then my visual perception of that image would change?

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 18:45:48 2019 No.11059629

>>11059019
It's extremely clear that it's overexposed; the background light is completely blown out. Looks like they took this in a darker place facing an area of the room that has a lot of sunlight shining in it.

>>11059395
Basically, yes. See above. But this is an assumption on my part, I have no evidence other than anecdotal. Well.. Again, and the fact that it was later proven to be a blue and black dress. Hindsight is convinient for proving points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 19:10:05 2019 No.11059702 >>11057724 Uhhhh I pretty sure when that happens the it is still called blue

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 19:19:45 2019 No.11059724 >>11058932 I see white and gold. Are you color blind?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 19:24:13 2019 No.11059738 >>11057076 The dress is black and blue and people who see white and gold just have low IQ :/

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 19:40:19 2019 No.11059784 >>11057987 it's actually an awful dress.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 20:03:17 2019 No.11059832

>>11057076

The real lesson here is that people can see the EXACT same thing at the exact same time and each see different things.

Some would swear the dress is gold and white and others swear the dress was black and blue and each would be telling the truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 20:10:40 2019 No.11059846 >>11057076 depends on the light your brain thinks its being shown under, blue or white light

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 20:33:46 2019 No.11059914 >>11057308 literally different.

Anonymous Mon Oct 14 23:09:00 2019 No.11060316

>>11057076
you can't see white and gold because it makes no sense and your brain is functional. in the OP pic it's a nonstarter as you can clearly see the lighting in the scene around the dress. it's yellow ("warm"), therefore the blue part is confirmed and the question is only how dark the other hue is. is it "black" or is it more like a "dark gray"? pretty much impossible to say, the camera seems rather shitty as well.

if you take away that context and just zoom in on the dress you can still tell that neither hue could ever be "white". the blue parts are simply way too dark to originally be "white" in any kind of lighting context. blue light strong enough to make "white" look like this could not leave the "gold" part looking like it does. the entire dress would be tinted blue under such intense blue light. this is intuitively obvious to people with healthy eyes and a well developed visual cortex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 23:17:34 2019 No.11060342 >>11059019 >>11059846 this simply is not true. I bet you both suck at drawing and painting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 14 23:25:14 2019 No.11060367 >>11057076 I have witnessed numerous arguments about if a car is silver or blue, or if a car is blue or purple etc. People just see differently. Because of evolving in different environments.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 00:28:54 2019 No.11060506 >>11058524 it's pretty much the mask test... if it doesn't spin both directions you have schizophrenia

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 00:36:34 2019 No.11060523

>>11057714
This POV annoys the piss out of me, it's the most obvious way of showing how biased your side is that you (a general you not you specifically) think the other side has this horrific monster view and your position is as simple as "horrific monster view is bad".

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 01:40:30 2019 No.11060676

>>11059629
>extremely clear
No, it's not, and you even say why. The background light being blown out means the camera focused on the dress, ignoring the background. This usually happens with things in the shadows.

>>11060342
>I can't understand how other people function
>they're all wrong and only those who share my opinion are right

Those who see black and blue let their brains apply filters to reality. Only white and gold people see existence purely as it is.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 01:50:23 2019 No.11060689

>>11057076
Okay this is spooky. I saw this thread yesterday and the dress in the OP was clearly gold and white.
Now I saw this thread for the second time and the dress is black and blue. I event thought someone had made a separate thread with the same OP for one second.
The dress is supposed to have different colors for different people, not to change for the same people.
What kind of sorcery is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 01:51:15 2019 No.11060691 >>11060689 are you in a dark room now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 01:56:04 2019 No.11060700 >>11060691 No, but I think I was the first time. Don't remember really. But now I'm in a fully-lit room and the dress is blue and black. At least I didn't get some random cross-combinaison like blue and gold.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 01:58:55 2019 No.11060705
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>>11060689
Do you have any sort of colorvision deficancy anon? Perhaps something you are unaware of?
Or maybe you are watching this at a really yellow old CRT monitor or something?

Not to be a dick to the white and gold people, but it really is strange seeing how this really isn't even a threshold case if you investigate the histogram of the image in photoshop.

>pic related id s quick eye exam for any white and gold peeps among us

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 02:10:04 2019 No.11060731

>>11060689
Have you been living under a rock?
A lot of this has to do with the way fabric is dyed. Black fabric is actually just dark brown, purple, blue, or other color. In this case brown, and the way the light hit it made it come out as a gold color on the flip-phone quality image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 02:35:03 2019 No.11060781 File: 387 KB, 968x869, colourIQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11060705 what are these ones supposed to be, particularly the two on the left I circled look like the same one in different colours with the 3 streaky lines or w.e

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 03:09:29 2019 No.11060821 >>11060781 >squiggly lines Uh oh, bad news for you, Anon. You have aids. From Africa.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 03:17:58 2019 No.11060833 File: 89 KB, 1157x993, Ebola_Virus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11060821 Not true, If you see ribbons you have regular AIDS. when you see squiggly lines you have something else, from Africa.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 03:41:37 2019 No.11060857 >>11060821 Fuck.. I knew something went weird with my eyes when I slept with that afrohooker

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 03:49:26 2019 No.11060867

>>11058275
>>11059724
>>11058949
>>11060676
It's hilarious that you say this because you are the deficient one here. The dress is legitimately blue and black. This was confirmed.
Your weak occipital lobe is fooled by the light filter that was on in the store at the time the photo was taken.

Seriously feel bad for you people. I hope you at least didn't fail the super taster test too.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 03:55:54 2019 No.11060876
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>>11057076
holy shit 162 replies for this shitty thread. Let me end it right now. It looks blue and brown, but that's because of the picture itself and it's brightness/saturation. Anyone with an ounce of a brain can actually colour correct it in their head and figure out it's more likely to be blue/black or a similar shade to that, in the same way as your brain colour corrects pic related to look slightly red, even though it's only grey and perhaps some green but no red. It has also been proven that the colour of the shirt was blue and black anyways, so this argument is moot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:11:40 2019 No.11060896 >>11057076 It's a really bad photo of a blue and black dress

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:15:22 2019 No.11060901 >>11057733 Black rejects infrared heating and >50% of sunlight is infrared. You've been lied to.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:20:57 2019 No.11060905

>>11060506
Well, fuck I guess I have schizophrenia. Always had problems reversing the spin of these kinds of images. The mental function that happens is "I know it's an eye trick, and I can make myself see it both ways, but why should I". The -feeling- that happens during the reversal is equivalent to emotional pain, and a shock to the chest.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:27:39 2019 No.11060916

>>11060689
This same thing happened to me back when this was a viral thing. In the first 2 seconds I could "see" it was a white/gold dress, but I was just taking in the dress. After I observed the entire image reality came through, as always, and I knew with no doubt it was blue and black.

What happens is your brain gives you a huge flash of the initial raw visual perception, but then your cortical processes add logical rules as you think about it. While, naturally, you can see there is some lightshow going on, your rational mind is then autonomously filtering the perception into information that makes sense. You know the dress is on a rack in a store, you know it's being lit by white/orange lights, you know how light reflection can make colors appear different. Combining this information with the dress, you just know the dress is blue and black, and the brown/golding of the dark parts is just a reflection of the store lights.

Anyone who ever said it's white and gold are either retarded or shitposters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:35:07 2019 No.11060927 >>11060905 >see it both ways it should pretty much always look like its facing you, maybe youre not sick in the head?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:36:46 2019 No.11060929 File: 2.75 MB, 400x300, MaskGif.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11060905

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:46:55 2019 No.11060938 >>11060929 damn it anon 4chan is calling my millenial generation schizos and I have to fit in!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 04:51:31 2019 No.11060944 >>11057708 >13 year old alt-rat propaganda Why are zoomers these easily suckered?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 07:06:18 2019 No.11061083 >>11060876 >colour of the shirt it's a dress

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 07:38:23 2019 No.11061140 >>11060876 Dark red is seen, even though I know it is just grey, also the table is seen as brown in the background My brain auto-corrects for what bad lighting.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:04:10 2019 No.11061253

>>11060676
>"it's not clear"
>proceeds to explain exactly why it's clear
If you took no other context into account (something which humans typically don't, and shouldn't, do), then maybe you could see how some unknown light could make a white and gold dress appear as the photo (as some images itt have shown). However, acting like a rational fucking person, it's a blue and black dress in a badly lit photo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:16:31 2019 No.11061271 File: 175 KB, 777x338, RotatingBrentanoL.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11059629 Having 100% knowledge that the two lines are the same length doesn't change your perception of the image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:26:22 2019 No.11061291 >>11060876 >Anyone with an ounce of a brain can actually colour correct it in their head lol this nigga thinks he can 'think' his eyes into seeing something differently

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:33:25 2019 No.11061308 File: 11 KB, 180x167, Screenshot_20191015-093150_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076 It is blue and black, but the poor image quality and diffuse lighting makes parts of the black appear to have gold tones. 1st pic: blue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:34:29 2019 No.11061312 File: 13 KB, 301x171, Screenshot_20191015-093205_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11061308 2nd pic: black (image includes the diffuse lighting)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:38:32 2019 No.11061319 File: 31 KB, 811x424, white-or-blue-dress-1425062802757-facebookJumbo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT: brainlets who don't grasp that bright light washes out colors

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 09:56:45 2019 No.11061362 >>11060523 yeah, pisses me off when i see shit like >left wing extremism says that we should improve society for some people, right wing extremism says we should murder minorities, centrists think these two are the same or vice versa

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:00:38 2019 No.11061369 >>11057682 Because top right shows you there there retarded amounts of light. Anyone who has ever left the basement and seen black under normal conditions knows that it turns into some washed out shade of [color of the light].

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:01:16 2019 No.11061375 >>11061319 There's even some brainlets in here who think they can use their willpower to see all those lines as blue/black

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:05:12 2019 No.11061386 File: 38 KB, 413x395, 1562469846155.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11061375 >thinks something changes just because his perception of it changes

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:08:14 2019 No.11061392 >>11061386 Literally nobody thinks that

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:12:29 2019 No.11061399

>>11057714
First, don’t be such a retard that you get triggered by a shitpost.
Second, That’s not what centrism is you dumb nigger. Being a fiscal conservative nationalist who’s also pro-choice and anti-systematic racism is a centrist because their values put them between their two parties.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:13:30 2019 No.11061403

>>11061392
Apparently
>>11061375
Does. The lines are representative of a single color. This is why.
>the dress can be assumed to be made of 2 fabric colors.
>per people's interpretations these colors are either white/gold or blue/black
>looking at the picture as a whole reveals a bright light source that is observed to fall on portions of the dress
>as is known, bright light can cause altered perception of the true color of a fabric or item due to a washing out effect
>thusly, to get a truer idea of the color one must select from portions of the image that are not as exposed to the bright light source
>doing so reveals the dress is blue and black

This is more of an example of how many people are completely incapable of nonlinear thinking than anything else.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 10:53:46 2019 No.11061495
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>>11061403
Nothing about
>>11061375
suggests this person thinks something changes because his perception has changed. I find it hard to believe that you genuinely believe that people think that?

>There's even some brainlets in here who think they can use their willpower to see all those lines as blue/black
This is a statement about what is seen, not what is the underlying reality of the object. If the eye sees the colours of white/gold, knowing the real colours of the dress doesn't stop the eye from seeing white/gold.

Does the reality of there being no black dots in this pic allow you to stop seeing black dots?

>per people's interpretations these colors are either white/gold or blue/black
>...
>doing so reveals the dress is blue and black
Doesn't change the way the dress is perceived to white/goldies,

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 11:08:11 2019 No.11061526

>>11061291
>lol this nigga thinks he can 'think' his eyes into seeing something differently
Yes nigger. The same way that you can change the contrast on a picture on your laptop, you can do the same and think about what the colours would look like if they were darker/lighter. Go troll somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 11:11:06 2019 No.11061533 File: 110 KB, 750x750, proxy.duckduckgo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tell me niggers, does the dress look white/gold now? /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 11:20:12 2019 No.11061552 >>11057173 I now feel validated and laughing at blue subhumans.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 11:55:14 2019 No.11061643 >>11061271 Not an accurate comparison.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 12:30:52 2019 No.11061729 >>11060867 I am only two of the guys you quoted. Your rambling is still filtercope. I hope it's fun never seeing reality for what it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 12:33:52 2019 No.11061737 >>11061533 That wasn't the question, retard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 13:32:07 2019 No.11061907 >>11061533 The model looks white to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 13:46:46 2019 No.11061944 File: 165 KB, 1024x773, 1467508359228.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057987 butterface

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 13:53:46 2019 No.11061956 >>11057693 This, people correcting for lighting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 14:47:01 2019 No.11062098 >>11057076 It has always been very clearly white and gold for me but as soon as I pay attention to the bottom left corner and understand that I see a black dress in the background, I immediately see the front one becoming black and blue.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 15:05:18 2019 No.11062133 File: 11 KB, 755x708, 1570832045179.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076 Is it true that people with significantly higher IQ perceive the white and gold first?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 15:11:45 2019 No.11062151 >>11062133 Literally the opposite. Blue & Gold > Blue & Black > White & Gold (Unfiltered > Correctly filtered > Incorrectly filtered)

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 15:14:52 2019 No.11062159 >>11062151 This.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 16:20:02 2019 No.11062352 File: 398 KB, 959x648, 1570069209992.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11059832 Wrong (retard) they are not each "telling the truth", they're "not lying" which is not the same thing......

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 16:23:50 2019 No.11062363 >>11061271 For anyone who is curious about this one, there are in fact only two rotating objects and not four which most people see

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 18:06:02 2019 No.11062573

>>11058997
>Using RGB values of the given image to determine the color of the dress is stupid though.
This entire problem was cause by this specific RGB representation of the dress though. If you wanted to know the actual dress color, then call the store up, but that's not what interests people at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 19:45:39 2019 No.11062812 >>11057682 >>11057705 They're not actually receiving the visual information as black, you idiots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 19:56:32 2019 No.11062835 >>11061729 >seeing reality for what it is >Literally sees it wrong Reality is not what you think you see, Anon. Your perception is yours alone.

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 20:01:11 2019 No.11062847

>>11062573
>This entire problem was cause by this specific RGB representation of the dress though.
Yeah but the values themselves are no more interesting than the true colours of the dress. Presumably, all of us who are not colourblind have the same visual input. You can attach numbers to it but it is of no consequence to the issue at hand. It proves nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 15 20:03:50 2019 No.11062857 File: 584 KB, 1300x1000, 1570219697940.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Tue Oct 15 20:52:21 2019 No.11062935

I see it as white and gold now, but once I saw it clearly as black and blue. B4 that I thought it is some kind of moder humor, where the joke is making an argument over smt obvious. It blew my mind that the robe can actually be both.
Never learnt how to switch the colors tho

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 01:18:34 2019 No.11063493 >>11060896 This. >>11060876 This is amazing. I thought for sure there was red. Putting into simple Paint and using the eyedrop tool... no red at all. Mind blown.

Anonymous Wed Oct 16 02:35:14 2019 No.11063589

>>11062151
nope. that's the psychopath list. the IQ list is
blue black > blue gold > powergap > seeing white and gold
because recognizing the "real" behind an image is a better feat of intelligence than filtering out absolute shades, treating the image like abstract art. psychopaths are less likely to be tricked by optical illusions, they are more likely to just see the absolute light and ignore all context, hence why your list is the one for psychopathy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 02:51:59 2019 No.11063620 >blue black away from screen >white gold close to screen What do I win?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 04:09:45 2019 No.11063771 >>11062133 >>11062151 >>11063589 Reminder that everyone will attempt to justify why the version they see puts them in the special group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 05:51:08 2019 No.11063873 File: 195 KB, 283x292, 1567603944627.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >gold/white brainlets arguing about anything when the dress has long been proven to be black/blue

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 05:55:11 2019 No.11063880 >>11058524 >can see the head spinning in a different direction to the body spooky

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 06:03:30 2019 No.11063889 >>11057076 literally depends on your computer screen

Anonymous Wed Oct 16 11:21:01 2019 No.11064406

You're all retarded, except that one post that I can't be bothered to find again.

You decode images based on lighting, assuming there is some objectively real colour that an object is. That's not completely wrong.

Problem here is that the picture is so overilluminated that you can't really tell. Some take the pixel colors at face value, some assume it's viewed in harsh sunlight.

Anyway, the takeaway here is you can't fucking tell. You can make assumptions but don't go and start a god damn religion based on those assumptions.

Without light you can't see shit. Don't trust the light.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 14:56:36 2019 No.11064883 >>11063873 The true color of the dress was never the argument you retarded brainlet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 15:27:18 2019 No.11064963 >>11057076 idk, on my phone it def looks white and yellow on my pc screen, now that I know the right answer idk i'd say dirty white and dark yellow or sth i've a tested iq of >135 so im not really retarded I hope am i retarded

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 15:38:51 2019 No.11064988 >>11057076 I could never see this dress as black. Please convince me

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 15:41:32 2019 No.11064997 >>11057076 I can only see black and blue if I cover the sides. They seem like there's a very strong light behind the dress

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 17:14:20 2019 No.11065223 >>11064997 Exactly that is the problem. Some see the light as also lighting up the dress, others see it behind the dress. Both are correct, but also both think the other view is retarded. Conclusion: we all suck.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 17:31:01 2019 No.11065260 >>11060781 I see exactly what you do. t. white and gold

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 17:34:18 2019 No.11065268 >>11064963 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 17:50:40 2019 No.11065316 i see it as white(light silverish-blueish) and gold, but when i set my phones brightness to minimum and look at it from an angle i can see black and blue in conclusion: black and blue fags see things very dimly and should get their eyes checked

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 18:02:34 2019 No.11065343 >>11063873 nigger the colors in the the image are blue and brown >>11057098

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 20:46:27 2019 No.11065763 >>11065343 Which is entirely beside the point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 20:56:06 2019 No.11065793 >>11065763 no retard nobody was asking people what they think the dress looks like irl they were asking what color was in the image and people were answering yellow/black that's the whole fucking point

Anonymous Wed Oct 16 21:06:57 2019 No.11065814

I see gold and blue and if I look at the top right corner I instinctively squint because it looks really bright.
But if I squint it looks black and blue.
It's just a really good illusion. Like a magic eye 3d, or moving optical illusions where the dots go white and black.

Anonymous Wed Oct 16 21:12:20 2019 No.11065832

>>11057076
>Is this blue and black? Is it white and gold?
what the actual fuck. The dress changed colors for me when I came back to this thread the next day. went from white and gold to blue and black. I even remember thinking that it would be impossible to be blue and black

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 16 21:20:40 2019 No.11065860 >>11060781 Same, white and gold.

Anonymous Thu Oct 17 12:41:24 2019 No.11067409

>>11065793
Look, the question of what colour the dress is has been rendered moot by people finding other photo's of the dress, but the question of what the photo looks like has been pointless from the start because you can tell from looking at the photo. So I don't know what you're on about now or what you think is interesting about this if not the optical illusion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 12:52:43 2019 No.11067436 >>11057076 The actual dress is black and blue. It has been tracked down years ago. The manufacturer also stated they never produced a white/gold version.

Anonymous Thu Oct 17 12:59:02 2019 No.11067454

>>11065793
>>11067409
In fact if you think this is "the whole point" then I can only assume the entire thread is some sort of smug exercise in pretending to be Dali where you go "hurr what colour is this" just so when people say "we already fucking know for a fact that it's black and blue" you can go "ceci n'est pas une robe lel"

The treachery of fucking images indeed

cock

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 13:25:39 2019 No.11067515 >>11057690 How does sunlight turn black into this color? Doesn't make sense to me. It's just too yellowish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 14:13:00 2019 No.11067635 File: 16 KB, 320x220, 84949488.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11067515

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 16:16:23 2019 No.11067915 >>11065793 dont get fucking antsy retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 16:20:30 2019 No.11067929 >>11067635 Ah, so the "black" in the dress isn't really black and those blue and black guys accusing the others of being brainlets because they don't see the dress for what it is actually are brainlets themselves. That argument sure backfired.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 16:50:05 2019 No.11068007 >all these blue and black smoothbrains

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 17:14:46 2019 No.11068070 >>11057076 Yesterday I saw white and yellow. Wanted to show it somebody today and now its black and blue. Guess it has to do something with the schuhmann resonance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 19:36:12 2019 No.11068458 Why does this require a thread? Theres a million articles explaing the effect without the need to exasperate the retards on this board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 17 19:42:42 2019 No.11068481 File: 165 KB, 1000x432, 1560273570538.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057076 >Shine red light on something, anything. >HOLY FUCK WHY DOES IT LOOK RED?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 00:10:40 2019 No.11069213 >>11057714 you could have pointed out the gateway nazism but instead you went full retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 02:40:23 2019 No.11069497 >>11068458 It's not fun if people don't get mad and religiously try to justify their own opinion. This thread is a mirror to judgemental people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 18 06:22:15 2019 No.11069821 >>11069497 stop

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