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HOW FAST DO PARTICLES SHIFT BETWEEN ENERGY STATES!!???

>> No.11056573

>>11056571
That depends.

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>>11056573
ELECTRONS!!!

>> No.11056774

>tfw ywn cook meth with Mr. White

>> No.11056825

>>11056571
I need to rewatch this show sometime, last i watched it i didn't even take chemistry yet in high school and now i have a degree in it.

>> No.11056829

>>11056571
in ordinary QM it is instantaneous. in relativistic quantum field theory then things are more complicated and defining a "speed" is basically meaningless

>> No.11056833

>>11056825
It still holds up well, one of the few instances of 10’s normiecore television that is rock solid for most of its seasons.

>> No.11056899

>>11056829
but then how do you describe a state being reached? how does the value change? it has to be continuous doesn't it? otherwise wtf is happening physically?

>> No.11057005

>>11056571
Have you heard of capacitance? It's basically electron "inertia", the energy of a particle is how much energy the electrons have.
So it's how much energy you are stimulating the particle with versus the density of the particle versus the energy difference between the two states you are changing between.
But it isn't instantaneous because of capacitance resisting the energy state change.

>> No.11057007

>>11056899
yeah it is continuous. in QFT all these "discrete" changes QM says are actually well described continuously. it amounts to nucleons and electrons exchanging lots of photons in many different possible ways

>> No.11057010

>>11057007
so it's just the speed of light? i don't understand. like what would be the proper representation of an energy state? is it a physical shift in radii of a particle? or its emission rate of photons?

>> No.11057026

>>11057010
in QFT the orbit of an electron around a hydrogen nucleus depends on many interactions that are mediated with photons. and these interactions are very weird; some of them are "off-shell". but to answer your question, energy states are accurately described by the bohr hydrogen model. the QFT corrections are not the dominant effect here.

>> No.11057060

>>11057026
so is it still accurate to mentally visualize orbital states as the energy states?

>> No.11058065

>>11056571
as fast as their little particle legs allow them to

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