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Anonymous Fri Oct 11 06:29:20 2019 No.11049457 [Reply] [Original]

Can science explain why the ratio of females to males is approximately 1:1, despite the fact that only 1/3 of males end up reproducing?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 06:45:30 2019 No.11049474 Citation needed, but the common line of argument is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_ratio#Fisher's_principle and I'm sure there's a million extensions of it since the 30's

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:00:01 2019 No.11049488 Male ratio is much bigger than female ratio. It's not 1:1 more like 4:1. Depends if country is after or before war.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:02:42 2019 No.11049492 >>11049488 >4:1 U R delusional

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:04:25 2019 No.11049495 >>11049492 >western countries accept millions of immigrants yearly >90% of them are males >UR DELUSIONAL xDDDDD Am i?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:23:02 2019 No.11049515 >>11049457 >despite the fact that only 1/3 of males end up reproducing? Is this actually true

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:24:15 2019 No.11049517

>>11049457
Because there's a ~50/50 chance of each baby being a male or female you dense motherfucker.

>>11049495
>Made retarded hypothesis that suits worldview
>Automatically assume its correct
Great job spastic, confirming your bias like a true champ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:24:34 2019 No.11049518 >>11049515 Yes. The historical average for males is 1 in 3 and for female it's 2 in 3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:28:28 2019 No.11049532 >>11049457 yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:29:56 2019 No.11049537 >>11049488 > It's not 1:1 more like 4:1. how can people post such obvious boldfaced bullshit on /sci/. unless you we're born and raised in a prison I don't even understand what would lead you to this conclusion

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:31:00 2019 No.11049540 >>11049518 Is it true in the modern era?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:31:57 2019 No.11049543 >>11049540 No, but it will be again, shortly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:34:00 2019 No.11049546 >>11049457 It's not one third. It's one fifth that end up reproducing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:38:58 2019 No.11049554 >>11049546 Source?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 07:43:08 2019 No.11049560 File: 11 KB, 489x627, OK cupid male and female ratings.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11049554 80/20 rule. Pareto principle

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:16:15 2019 No.11049707 Because women can have multiple children. That is, if the fact that only a third of males produce children is correct at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:21:18 2019 No.11049716 >>11049457 the same reason why you don't shoot a single sperm

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:23:59 2019 No.11049724 >>11049457 are you fuggin dura? biology my dude. learn it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:27:53 2019 No.11049731 File: 13 KB, 396x324, male-messaging-curve.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11049560 Why are you ignoring step two?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:28:55 2019 No.11049734 File: 13 KB, 381x313, female-messaging-curve.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11049731

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 09:32:36 2019 No.11049740 >>11049734 how is that possible?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 10:09:17 2019 No.11049768 >>11049731 >men like to message hot women >>11049734 >women have to settle for average men sometimes Wow doesn't disprove the 80/20 rule.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 12:24:26 2019 No.11049995 >>11049457 Whats actually crazy is that the ratio skews towards males in a pretty significant way after a large conflict kills a disproportionate number of men and then just returns to normal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 12:36:23 2019 No.11050024 >>11049495 Fuck off polfaggot. Why dont you go and save more of those schizophrenic pngs that substantiate your entire world view.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 12:38:15 2019 No.11050026 >>11049457 Men are more likely to die

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 12:41:19 2019 No.11050032 >>11050026 Continuing this thought, men are the disposable gender. Women are required to be alive for children to be born whereas a male doesnt need to stay alive for his female counterpart to give birth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 12:45:10 2019 No.11050040 >>11049537 >how can people post such obvious boldfaced bullshit erry day in /pol/ now they do it here too

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 13:06:26 2019 No.11050080 >>11049517 So what if his hypothesis suits his worldview, probably everything you think suits your worldview.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 13:07:28 2019 No.11050083 >>11049517 >Because there's a ~50/50 chance of each baby being a male or female you dense motherfucker. This, obviously. OP is probably a nigger.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 16:34:28 2019 No.11050595 >>11049515 No.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 16:38:34 2019 No.11050604 >>11049995 >men can have it good after a huge number of men die first :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 18:23:31 2019 No.11050869 >>11049457 cause girls are picky

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 19:42:05 2019 No.11051077 >>11049457 >I've never had sex with a female human therefore everything is wrong!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 19:54:31 2019 No.11051108 >>11050869 except ur mum

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 20:48:09 2019 No.11051270

>>11049457
Yes I can.

From the book the 'selfish gene' (a absolute must read btw):..

Say there was an even more imbalanced situation that human incels.

Take elephant seals. In an elephant seal colony only a few % of the males actually reproduce. The rest are basically celibate or die in fights with the chads that reproduce.

You might ask in that situation why don't elephant seals stop having so many males? Seems like a waste right?

Let's consider what happens if they do: If elephant seals could 'decide' or 'evolve' to produce 99% females and 1% males... Then we could think about a population in which there are 99% females and 1% males. Now as a INDIVIDUAL elephant seal.. it pays you a SHITLOAD to have a male, because if you have a male child your genes spread like WILDFIRE... whereas if you have a female child you can only have the normal amount of offspring.

So.. there is a massive evolutionary pressure to create MALES... this will revert the balance back to 50%. Infact in most species it's self balancing exactly at 50% because of how reproduction works. 50% genes from mom 50% genes from data.

Any movement away from the 50% would genetically PAY the smaller ratio to increase itself.. until it self balances.

Yep. Nature doesn't give 2 shits about incels, no matter how many schools you shoot up. The media might care but, ESS ratios and math don't care ;P

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 20:49:53 2019 No.11051276 are women even human, is it bestiality to have sex with them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 20:54:47 2019 No.11051294 >>11049457 Because women don't only birth girls. How is this a question?

Anonymous Fri Oct 11 21:00:40 2019 No.11051310

>>11051270
To follow up on this...

What it means for humans over a longer term:

The 50% sex ratio is fixed genetically, over the hundreds of MILLIONS of years it takes for vertebrate sex ratio genes to fix themselves... It's been determined that if there was a random mutation in which a single organism had a 49% chance of males and a 51% of females.. that organism's genes would actually do WORSE off than a 50/50 ratio.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 11 23:30:05 2019 No.11051601 >>11051270 >>11051310 >reading Richard Dawkins No I will not read some atheists book on evolution. What does he know about evolution?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:41:38 2019 No.11053440 >>11051294 Why not have a 2:1 women to men ratio? Why 1:1?

Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:46:10 2019 No.11053446

>>11053440
men die too frequently from disease and warfare, women dont harvest enough nutritious protein laden foods to keep the tribe alive by themselves and the hormonal and behavioral profile of an aggressive animal like a human male is not compatible with the behaviors required to raise human children. we would have had to shift the entirety of our evolutionary trajectory towards something like elephant clans or lion prides to get away with skewed female:male ratios and we have neither the body size nor the killing prowess to do this (though there was no choice in the matter). the acceleration of weapons development due to intertribal conflict and the benefits of dividing labor between the sexes allowed our technology to advance to the point that crop domestication war more efficient than hunting and gathering increasing our relative fitness in an environment that still favored megafauna over us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:48:25 2019 No.11053448 >>11050080 Because the evidence to the contrary of that guy's hypothesis is just a Google away

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:52:28 2019 No.11053453 File: 97 KB, 1090x926, 1553870861222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11049457 What's the evolutionary advantage of males who contribute to society yet don't reproduce?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 17:54:59 2019 No.11053456 >>11053448 >go outside >see more males than females >go to next city >same >BUT UR JUST FALSE GOOGLE IT POLTARD DATS UR SCREWED WORLDVIEW XDDDD slurps cum

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 18:01:53 2019 No.11053471 >>11051294 This. The whole self balancing ratio thing is misnomer, because the sex outcome is a random choice since multiceller orgasms became sex differataned, it happens before the expression of evolutionary pressures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:34:16 2019 No.11053961 >>11053453 Helping to raise Tyrone's kid after he runs off would help that kid survive so that Tyrone can go knock up another chick and rinse and repeat

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:38:56 2019 No.11053972 >>11053456 Where do you live where there are four times as many men as there are women? And what's your explanation for this phenomenon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:42:45 2019 No.11053980 >>11053972 3/4 of women are muslim and cant leave their homes

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:46:36 2019 No.11053989 >>11053961 But how does this behavior (in the cucks) end up being rewarded with passing on genes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 12 22:49:36 2019 No.11053995 File: 367 KB, 1484x1150, FE9CC016-FA3F-45AC-ACEF-F2FE27C7361B.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11049560 ACKSHUALLY it’s the 82/72 rule

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 03:38:12 2019 No.11054481 >>11053995 For now. Project it'll go all the way to 20%

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 13 06:40:20 2019 No.11054712 >>11053995 Except it's still the 80/20 rule. The only difference is that the other 52% of men are cucked enough to be OK with sleeping with used goods.

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