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1104437 No.1104437 [Reply] [Original]

It shouldn't be humans to Mars in 50 years it should be humans to Mars in 10

>> No.1104443

Humans don't belong on Mars or on the Moon. They should stay on Earth.

>> No.1104448

>>1104443
> Cro-magnon detected

>> No.1104453

the only way any sort of manned permanent colony on ANY non-earthlike planet will EVER exist...is for us to make some sort of power source that puts out more energy than we put into it. That's the only way to feasibly have a long term colony that could process water, air, and other things needed.

>> No.1104454

>>1104443
Things never "belong" somewhere. They're just there because it happened.

Whether human beings can stand extraterrestrial environment or not is a different story.

>> No.1104457

No, that is all.

>> No.1104458

>>1104448
I partly agree with him.

We should be on Io and fucking Titan.

>> No.1104463

I want to lick a Mars snow cone.

>> No.1104466

>>1104453
You mean like Nuclear?

>> No.1104470

>>1104453
>some sort of power source that puts out more energy than we put into it

Isn't that what all power sources do?

>> No.1104471

>>1104466
giant nuclear reactor, or small practical fusion reactor.

Fusion would be ideal since the fuel source would be much easier to come across interstellar

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>>1104453
>.is for us to make some sort of power source that puts out more energy than we put into it

>> No.1104476

>>1104453

Dude.

Just get a nuclear reactor, or a few photovoltaic cells. If you can get that far, why not leave a solar satellite around the planet before planetfall? According to your logic we will never have enough energy for the entire planet, which is not true.

>>1104443

Lol retard just get the fuck out.

>>1104437

Even though I'm all for space exploration, the FIRST EVER step is developing cheap and efficient ways of getting stuff into space, something along the lines of the Sea Dragon rocket which can put 1000 tonnes in orbit at an amazingly low cost or a super-large space plane.

After cheap commercial access to space is provided, the rest of the story should write itself.

>> No.1104480

>>1104437

Enjoy your OBABO who said that GREEN BULLSHIT was more important than Nasa's budget.

>> No.1104552

1.) Lunar base.
2.) Manufacture all equipment there.
3.) Launch from lunar surface.
4.) ???
5.) Martian whores.

>> No.1104569

>>1104552

6.) Take advantage of the lack of laws on the Moon and begin performing genetic experiments
7.) AHAHAHAHAHHAAA ALL THE DELICIOUS POSSIBILITIES

>> No.1104576

4 words.

Class C stellar engine.

>> No.1104603

>>1104576

lol enjoy waiting 10 billion years to move at 20 kilometers per second, a speed that can be reached by VASIMR rockets in less than an hour

>> No.1104600

>>1104480

Enjoy your Ron Paul who'd like to kill Nasa entirely.

>> No.1104616

>>1104603
...well it would be a kick ass Kinetic weapon for when we find them aliens

>> No.1104627

>>1104443
You forgot your arguments, just stating a worthless opinion. OP's post at least is a quote of someone who have made a strong case for entering Mars.

And who are you out of curiosity? I guess you're the one who naysay every space-related thread, but IRL? And why do you come here on /sci/?

>> No.1104649

>>1104616
Same dude.

What would happen if you used a binary or larger star system for the stellar engine?

>> No.1104662

I'm all for space exploration but if it actually serves a purpose. The way things are now, doing manned spaceflight is stupid and a dick-waving contest.

If we could mine asteroids and shit I'd be all for it but let's get real, it can't be done. Manned spaceflight should be axed entirely in favor of probes.

>> No.1104674

>>1104662

>If we could mine asteroids and shit I'd be all for it but let's get real, it can't be done.

Mining the asteroids can be done with today's tech. It's not like Artificial Intelligence or the Singularity, it's something that can be done today.

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1104682

Alright c'ya /sci/scams, I'm off to /new/. Thank you /new/ for restoring my faith in mankind.

>> No.1104693

>>1104476
For the price of celebrity divorce fees we could put a rotovator(I think this is the correct term?) in orbit made of conventional materials that we could use to bootstrap our way to cheap space launch.

I forget the paper, but when I googled the cost of it I found a celebrity divorce payment that cost more. Heck a movie would cost more than an orbital rotovator.

Detractors will note, however, that rotovators are unproven technology and there are many challenges to deploying and maintaining a tether in space.

>> No.1104710

>>1104674
>>1104674
Not exactly today's tech, but it's really not all that far off.

Now only if someone was willing to pay for a megawatt class VASIMIR...

>> No.1104770

>>1104682
I WANT THE GALAXY

>> No.1104836

It should be humans to Mars in -30 years.

I don't care if it's we set up on the Moon or Mars first, as long as we expand human civilization beyond the Earth. I'll even accept giant space station colonies.

>> No.1104920

>>1104453
Yes, its called the sun. And we don't put fuel into it... so we are presently trying to grow demand to meet supply.

>> No.1104963

>>1104662
Probably right... however whats the use of reality if it isnt for the enjoyment of humans?

>> No.1104982

Isn't it Nasa's plan to get man on Mars by 2030? If that's true, then why are you saying 50 years, OP?

>> No.1105026

>>1104836
>>1104770

We should start moving into space at the earliest opportunity. Otherwise we won't make full use of our adaptability and learning, and the universes only proven intelligent creature will be putting all its eggs in one basket with earth.

However because of the genetic development that would ensue... humans need to create some sort of failsafe so we don't eventually end up in some gigantic war with our distant relatives.

>> No.1105034

>>1104982
>On /sci/
>Doesn't know who Robert Zubrin
>>>/b/

>> No.1105051

>>1104693
>challenges to deploying space tether

Not really the tethers momentum will keep it taught.

But still I prefer the idea of using a mass driver to launch gear into space.