Will doing drugs lower my IQ?

[Anonymous No.11037639]

Alright /sci/ this is a really general, and stupid, question - but you fags are all obsessed with IQ and some of you are medical students.

My problem is this:
>I have a good brain (inb4 OP is brainlet durr)
>I am obsessed with my academic studies, mathematics and philosophy
>but I am such a depressed cunt that I want to get high all the time
>if I get my hands on anything I will take it

Basically, can I get fucked up habitually and still be intellectually competent?

Anybody else have similar experiences?

[Anonymous No.11037644]

Practice proper moderation or you'll fuck yourself for a long time. not unrecoverable though.

[Anonymous No.11037652]

>IQ thread
>drugs
Don't worry anon, all hope is already lost.

[Anonymous No.11037672]

>>11037652
I mean cognitive performance, or whatever

[Anonymous No.11037673]

>>11037639
>but I am such a depressed cunt that I want to get high all the time
Try anime instead, it just costs your sanity rather than your physical health.

[Anonymous No.11037683]

>>11037639
>Will doing drugs lower my IQ?
Why don't you try them and find out?

[Anonymous No.11037689]

>>11037673
I'm may be trash but I'm not an anime fan.That's my only non trashy quality, I've got to hold on to that

[Anonymous No.11037697]

>>11037639
I get high everyday and am almost done with a PhD. I know a few alcoholic grad students and one who does mdma weekly at least. Smart will smart, ambitious will ambition anon. Hell my PI gets high on special occasions.

[Anonymous No.11037725]

>>11037697
Can you really manage that? What do you study?

[Anonymous No.11037736]

>>11037725
Biochem, heavy ex vivo cell work. Others include physics and chem

[Anonymous No.11037883]

>>11037639
It depends on the drugs and how hard you push it. If you are smart about usage you will have a good time and still be a genius. Don't mix weed and alcohol though. Long term weed and alcohol is a REALLY bad idea. Google that shit for details.

[Anonymous No.11037887]

>another iq thread

[Anonymous No.11037899]

>>11037697
>stoner PI
based

[Anonymous No.11037936]

>>11037899
Ex-stoner PI who can be persuaded on the odd occasion to eat an edible. He is based though

[Anonymous No.11038187]

>>11037639
You have to tell us what drugs you are taking because the effects differ for abuse.

Hands down though Alcohol is the most harmful and freely available its shown to actually stop brain growth when abused not just during development stage of youth but, even in adult hood. It also causes the most hormone disruption and you can die from withdrawal.

Cannabis is the easiest one to recover from abuse and at least has been shown to be neuroprotectant. The worst part is it still disrupts hormones, short term memory and makes you more emotionally vulnerable. It has been shown to effect mathematics ability when under the influence. My own anecdotal experience however with Cannabis, is that it permanently made me more intelligent from activating parts of the brain that were related to the activities I disregarded most of my life (Art and Music).

[Anonymous No.11038213]

>>11038187

Why the fuck are these infographs showing alcohol to be more dangerous than heroin appearing everywhere? I don't drink but I'm pretty sure that's not the case

[Anonymous No.11038302]

>>11038187
>It has been shown to effect mathematics ability when under the influence
here we go again

[Anonymous No.11038374]

>>11037639
>Basically, can I get fucked up habitually and still be intellectually competent?
Hang out with a group of stoners in their 30s for a while and you’ll have your answer

[Anonymous No.11038391]

>>11038374
So, no, then?

[Anonymous No.11038435]

>>11037883
Yea you mix weed and alcohol your gonna have a kickass time. Nothing better drink 4-5 beers then smoke some ganja.

[Anonymous No.11038438]

>>11038187
Of course you cant do nath stoned. What kind of nitwit gets high then tries to do math.

[Anonymous No.11038451]

>>11037639
Resident here, what are you taking? If it's opioids/meths/alcohol you should go see an addictologist before it definitely fucks you up.

If you have a shit mood all the time it's probably because you don't have a good balance in life. Are you isolated? Are you fit? What are your hobbies?

[Anonymous No.11038482]

>>11037639
OP can't inb4, you are a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.11038606]

>>11038187
>Cannabis
>Harm to others
Is this based on an approach that includes harm to others caused by factors like gang violence, or is it just based on the drug itself?

>>11038213
Look at it again, most of it comes down to alocohol casuing much stronger harm to others, which makes sense, if you think about it.
The usual heroin user will be knocked out while being under the influence, with most of the harm (to others) caused by crime in order to finance that shit.
Alcohol meanwhile makes you both energized and more aggressiv, which greatly increases the adverse effects on the users enviorment.

[Anonymous No.11038630]

>>11037639
the problem is just fucking off and doing drugs and not caring about anything else, drugs shouldn't cause long term cognitive damage unless you're using something like meth, used opiates for 12 years as well as drinking a litre of liquor a day for 10 and been clean now for a few months and I just passed the MENSA entrance test, my IQ before, 11 years ago, doing the WAIS was tested to be 97th percentile but I was intoxicated when I did it

[Anonymous No.11038668]

>>11038451
OK here, I'm quite a healthy person but I'm just naturally an emo cunt

[Anonymous No.11038672]

>>11038668
OP shit

[Anonymous No.11039097]

>>11038187
so according to this he should take meth, it'll hurt others the least

[Anonymous No.11039118]

>>11037639
>Will doing drugs lower my IQ?
depends

[Anonymous No.11039339]

>>11039118
what if I abused adderall in insane doses, masturbated for hours on the said doses, but slept and ate properly otherwise..
would that lead to some long-term damage ?

[Anonymous No.11039493]

>>11037736
Damn. So I could have a good academic performance while getting stoned off my balls every so often?

[Anonymous No.11039514]

>>11039339
Are you trying to become a coomer? The answer is yes btw.

[Anonymous No.11039536]

>>11038630
You were a junkie, you mean?

[Anonymous No.11039882]

>>11039514
no, i was a coomer
and damn, sucks

[Anonymous No.11040262]

>>11037639
In your case, don't do anything beyond green tea. It is safe, effective and delicious.

[Anonymous No.11040297]

>>11040262
What strain is that? Never heard of it

[Anonymous No.11040322]

>>11040297
That's the chinese character for tea, anon....

[Anonymous No.11040324]

>>11040297
it's basically weak chinese sativa

[Anonymous No.11041879]

>>11040297
As >>11040322 write, it means tea. In Japanese one normally calls it Ocha where the "O" adds a touch of formality.

I recommend Japanese green tea such as sencha, while macha is too bitter (and expensive).

[Anonymous No.11041921]

>>11037639
Do psychedelics if you want to increase your IQ. LSD for instance is highly nootropic.

[Anonymous No.11041969]

>>11037639
The most common 'safe' psychoactive drugs are marijuana, psilocybe, and mescaline.

coffee/tea, tobacco and beer/wine are more dangerous than either simply because of long-term abuse.

Long-term abuse of cannabis will sedate a person, if consistently available. Chronic abuse will prevent dreams which can cause irrational behavior.

Beer/Wine are the safest forms of alcohol intake.

The safest drugs are the ones in our genetics. Though mescaline may be a rare botanical, it is generally considered safe because it has such a powerful/therapeutic effect.

Psilocybe is not a very safe drug in the view of irrational behavior, but it is safe to body. Besides this, cultivated mushrooms are not nearly as potent as wild ones, and comprise the majority of recreational 'shrooms' . 10x the amount of cultivated species is more safe than 1g of a wild species. The same can be said for mescali containing cacti.

Other drugs exist like kava kava (a substitute for alcohol), kratom (substitute for opioids), and khat (substitute for cocaine). I don't believe ephedra is safe, but is a source of methamphetamine. Cocoa leaves are another obvious herb.

There exist more species of natural drugs, like mimosa analogues, iboga and amanita, but these are considered to be on the extreme end. Mescaline is extreme but it's definitely the best one-and-done.

[Anonymous No.11041985]

>>11041969
I forgot to say, no man-made chemical is safe, because man does not include the hundreds of molecules that the natural form originally contained. Plants, animals, and humans evolved together, science evolves alone.

[Anonymous No.11041993]

>>11041985
And I did not mention LSD because it is a chemical derived from a fungus that causes gangrene. If the natural form is not safe, then it probably wasn't intended to be ingested.

And have a theory of how something like LSD/Ergot would work - that some plants are sponges of radiation? They're extremely dense molecules. They're may exist natural filters of radiation in the ecosystem like a clam exists in the ocean. LSD may just be a blast of space radiation.

[Anonymous No.11042082]

>>11041985
>no man-made chemical is safe
patently false though. Non-"natural" synthesized compounds which are biologically active molecules can be designed to be completely inert except for their targets. It's hard as shit to get that inertness but it is possible.

[Anonymous No.11042303]

>>11042082
Keep telling yourself that

[Anonymous No.11042903]

>>11037639
>but I am such a depressed cunt that I want to get high all the time
Try LSD or psilocybin

[Anonymous No.11042941]

>>11037639
Yes, but it depens on what drug specifically but generally speaking yes. Don't try weed it's really overrated and it's only strong the first time, then after 3 months of use you will regret taking it in the first place.
If you really plan on doing drugs then do something tha doesn' make you lazy and that which isn't junk food for your brain like nigger drugs (weed, downers, xanax) Do things like amphetamine so you don't ruin your productive lifestyle.