/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11035002]

The Bell Curve is junk science. My professor told me so.

[Anonymous No.11035014]

>>11035002

[Anonymous No.11035022]

>>11035014
So, funcional humans are around 100?

[Anonymous No.11035023]

>>11035002
[eqn]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\sigma^2}} e^{-\frac{(x-\mu)^2}{2\sigma^2}}[/eqn]
That's just a single formula, not science. Insisting that every distribution has to be gaussian, is obviously stupid.

[Anonymous No.11035086]

>>11035002
The university intellectuals also play an important role in carrying out the System's trick. Though they like to fancy themselves independent thinkers, the intellectuals are (allowing for individual exceptions) the most oversocialized, the most conformist, the tamest and most domesticated, the most pampered, dependent, and spineless group in America today. As a result, their impulse to rebel is particularly strong. But, because they are incapable of independent thought, real rebellion is impossible for them. Consequently they are suckers for the System's trick, which allows them to irritate people and enjoy the illusion of rebelling without ever having to challenge the System's basic values.

Because they are the teachers of young people, the university intellectuals are in a position to help the System play its trick on the young, which they do by steering young people's rebellious impulses toward the standard, stereotyped targets: racism, colonialism, women's issues, etc. Young people who are not college students learn through the media, or through personal contact, of the "social justice" issues for which students rebel, and they imitate the students. Thus a youth culture develops in which there is a stereotyped mode of rebellion that spreads through imitation of peers—just as hairstyles, clothing styles, and other fads spread through imitation.

[Anonymous No.11035223]

>>11035023
underated post
a lot of things can be approximated as gassian,
in fact in signal analysis the use of simulated white noise is a great way to calibrate a filter.
Or more generally to even identify a system.

But yes its application dependant, forcing the distribution on some phenomena is a mistake.

[Anonymous No.11035265]

>>11035002
No, it’s junk science because it’s full of lies and bad methodology. No scientific support for racism exists

[Anonymous No.11035267]

>>11035002
You forgot to put that in greentext

[Anonymous No.11035298]

I still can't get over the fact how widely accepted IQ is despite the fact it is literally just Numerology in the sheep's clothing.

[Anonymous No.11035300]

>>11035086
oversocialized // domesticated// spineless

[Anonymous No.11035304]

>>11035298
>t. low-IQ brainlet
my number is higher than your number

[Anonymous No.11035309]

>>11035298
Actually EQ is more important and the SAT is racist

[Anonymous No.11035371]

>>11035086
ted wasn’t racist tho. you’re thinking of manson

[Anonymous No.11035378]

>>11035265
>>11035309
>>11035265
Explain Africa, Haiti and Detroit then
Without talking about a global white conspiracy to keep the darkies down

[Anonymous No.11035391]

>>11035378
Long-term effects of colonization, slavery, and Jim Crow

[Anonymous No.11035412]

>>11035391
proofs?

[Anonymous No.11035414]

>>11035086
I can post a 1000 pics of unattractive white women nice argument cretin

[Anonymous No.11035418]

>>11035412
My doctor is Nigerian and he's smarter than you

[Anonymous No.11035430]

>>11035309
>The SAT is racist
How?

[Anonymous No.11035437]

>>11035430
Bing it urself, mongo

[Anonymous No.11035448]

>another /pol/ IQ and race thread

[Anonymous No.11035453]

>>11035418
bad argument, not proofs

[Anonymous No.11035457]

>>11035453
/pol/ is full of losers that what to destroy meritocracy because they only thing they have to be proud of is their skin.

[Anonymous No.11035461]

>>11035457
even worse argument, not even resemble proofs

[Anonymous No.11035477]

>>11035461
We've moved past your stupid proof thing, autist

[Anonymous No.11035481]

>>11035378
There's no conspiracy, it's pretty out in the open m8.

[Anonymous No.11035488]

>>11035457
What meritocracy are you talking about

[Anonymous No.11035494]

>>11035391
This nonsense just begs the question. Why was there colonization, slavery, and Jim Crow? For no reason? Just bad luck for Africans? Obviously not

[Anonymous No.11035513]

>>11035457
true, then again lefty-twitter loves affirmative action

[Anonymous No.11035521]

>>11035494
Because whiteoids only care about money

[Anonymous No.11035530]

>>11035477
non science, bad post, still no proof, have sex

[Anonymous No.11035538]

>>11035521
Yeah that’s why Europe experienced hundreds to thousands of years of intellectual and cultural development during which time Africans built lots of mud huts

[Anonymous No.11035541]

>>11035002

let me guess, LGBT study professor?

[Anonymous No.11035543]

>>11035437
>Hurr x is y
>But why?
>Look it up yourself
Go away you pseud, lmao

[Anonymous No.11035560]

I just took an advanced IQ test on 23andme

You plebes probably can't access this, you have to pay $250 and submit your DNA

Get on my level

[Anonymous No.11035567]

>>11035560
based on https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1573192

[Anonymous No.11035588]

>>11035541
Bingo!

[Anonymous No.11035605]

>>11035538
> Valuing family, community, and natural experience over smoggy industry is a sign of low intelligence

[Anonymous No.11035610]

>>11035412

Not him but Nigeria's economy and Rawanda's low Homicide rate is proof of this. Neither country/ population exceed 90 IQ and yet they do better in those two areas than most North African, South America and middle eastern countries.

What's the explanation for this? Why is Detroit's Homicide rate over 15 times the rate of Rawanda despite having a million people less in the entire state of Michigan? Why is Nigeria's economy doing as well as Argentina despite being 9 IQ points lower? I thought having so many low IQ people in one place was supposed to completely destroy a country?

[Anonymous No.11035622]

Taking IQ tests is a great way to pass a Saturday night alone in front of the pc...

[Anonymous No.11035689]

>>11035086
wild vs domesticated
bison vs milk cow
wolf vs chihuahua
Native Americans vs Yuropoors
Africans vs Niggers (who are domesticated Africans)
Greeks vs Amerilards

[Anonymous No.11035696]

>>11035418
Nigerians and most Africans are different from the western negro.
We've breed them for a while now and they are very distinct.

[Anonymous No.11035759]

>>11035610
Not him either. I don't know much about Nigeria, but Rawanda is controlled by a smart and harsh dictator, no shit the crime rate is low. IQ is not the only factor in determining a society, just because the average IQ is low doesn't mean there aren't exceptional smart people who can take control of a country efficiently. I would say culture is more important than IQ.

[Anonymous No.11035798]

>>11035265
>full of lies and bad methodology

Stephen Jay Gould argued that “manipulation of data may be a scientific norm” because “scientists are not directed toward external truth”.
Gould presented the case of Samuel George Morton, a 19th-century physician and physical anthropologist famous for his measurements of human skulls. Morton was considered the objectivist of his era, but Gould reanalyzed Morton's data and in his prize-winning book The Mismeasure of Man [5] argued that Morton skewed his data to fit his preconceptions about human variation. Morton is now viewed as a canonical example of scientific misconduct.
We investigated these questions by remeasuring Morton's skulls and reexamining both Morton's and Gould's analyses.
Our analysis of Gould's claims reveals that most of Gould's criticisms are poorly supported or falsified. Of the approximately seven minor errors in Morton's work identified by Gould [1], only two appear to be actual errors, and their overall impact confounds rather than supports Morton's presumed a priori rankings.
Ironically, Gould's own analysis of Morton is likely the stronger example of a bias influencing results.
>be gould
>set out to prove everyone's a lying data manipulating racist
>facts uncooperative
>shamelessly resort to lying and manipulating data yourself
>win awards for it
The absolute state of science.

[Anonymous No.11035803]

>>11035457
/pol/ is very pro-meritocracy. They hate affirmative action.

[Anonymous No.11035807]

>>11035803
they're also equally if not moreso buttblasted about murrgrints daken err jerbs because when some indian dude is better at computers than you, TIME TO VOTE REPUBLICAN

[Anonymous No.11035824]

>>11035610
What in the everloving fuck does colonization have to do with Haiti? It's about the biggest example possible that colonization works seeing as they threw off their masters 400 years ago and it's easily the biggest dump in the western hemisphere

Detroit was nothing more than blacks chasing jobs in at the time arguably the most prosperous city economically in the world and it magically turning into the poorest city in the US? It has about as little to do with Jim Crow as possible.

Nigeria has 4x more people than Argentina and an equivalent economic output genius. They're not equivalent economies. Do you think 4 families making $100k combined are just as well off as one making $100k lol?

[Anonymous No.11035832]

>>11035824
>Detroit was nothing more than blacks chasing jobs in at the time arguably the most prosperous city economically in the world and it magically turning into the poorest city in the US? It has about as little to do with Jim Crow as possible.
detroit sucks but many other cities suffered similarly because of deindustrialization

[Anonymous No.11035853]

>>11035807
Why would anyone vote to lose their job to masses of cheap foreign labor?

[Anonymous No.11035869]

>>11035824

>Nigeria has 4x more people than Argentina and an equivalent economic output genius. They're not equivalent economies

That's not the point though. Nigeria has 200 million people with a population IQ average of 84 vs a population with 93. Everything IQ studies talk about states that such a population shouldn't even function well enough to match the economic output of Argentina.

Nigeria should have imploded on itself with that many low IQ people. Yet it didn't, how do you explain this?

[Anonymous No.11035881]

>>11035798
Jewish anon BTFO >>11035265 get fucked lmao.

Reminder that evolution doesn't stop at the neck.

[Anonymous No.11035888]

>>11035853
maybe they could vote for free education that beats what india offers

[Anonymous No.11035894]

>>11035853
Why would they vote for lose their jobs to machines and robots?

[Anonymous No.11035896]

>>11035002
the chinese invented a ton of shit
the europeans invented a fuck ton of shit
the arabs invented a fuck ton of shit
indian americans especially south americans invented shit also civilization and calendars
the negro nothing stuck behind until europe came around and modernized them.

they couldnt have done it on their own.

[Anonymous No.11035898]

>>11035869
>Nigeria should have imploded on itself with that many low IQ people. Yet it didn't, how do you explain this?
Not him, but their society is completely different to ours. Their norms, their family unit, everything.
If you transported a nigerian village to an american suburb, they would implode.
If you transported Wall Street to the capital of Nigeria, the entire world would implode.

Obviously whatever menial society they are running on now is enough to keep them afloat. But, lol, barely. How many civil wars, military coups, and gang turf wars has africa had to suffer thanks to global influence?

We should have never stepped foot on Africa. What a shit show.

[Anonymous No.11035904]

>>11035002
>extrapolating results from the "draw a man" test given to children who had never held a pencil
>assuming that if a child doesn't remove the researcher's mark from their face, they necessarily fail the mirror test
>taking samples from hospitals for malaria-infected children (protip: malaria is known to cause brain damage in over 50% of victims)
>school that tested high IQ deemed unrepresentative because private. but another private school that tested low IQ scores was deemed representative
>samples from a school for the retarded located in Spain used as a proxy for average IQ of Equatorial Guinea
Pic related. The best predictor of an IQ study's inclusion in Lynn's survey is whether or not the "correct" result was measured (i.e. cherry-picking, in the most literal sense).
Source:
Jelte M. Wicherts, Conor V. Dolan, Han L.J. van der Maas, The dangers of unsystematic selection methods and the representativeness of 46 samples of African test-takers, Intelligence, Volume 38, Issue 1, 2010, Pages 30-37, ISSN 0160-2896, http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2009.11.003
>In light of all the available IQ data of over 37,000 African test-takers, only the use of unsystematic methods to exclude the vast majority of data could result in a mean IQ close to 70. On the basis of sound methods, the average IQ remains close to 80. Although this mean IQ is clearly lower than 100, we view it as unsurprising in light of the potential of the Flynn Effect in Africa (Wicherts, Borsboom, & Dolan, 2010) and common psychometric problems associated with the use of western IQ tests among Africans.
In other words, when you take the actual African IQ, environmental factors can explain the difference.
But the Pioneer Fund certainly wouldn't want that...
American boomer race """science""" is hopelessly politicized.

[Anonymous No.11035948]

>>11035869
>match the economic output of Argentina.
only because they have four times more people lol
>have $12/hr job with an 84 iq
>have $48/hr job with a 93 iq
the latter sounds much more impressive to me or
>$3/hr 84 iq
>$12/hr 93 iq
what's so impressive about that? plus they get a lot of aid mostly unofficially to keep them afloat. private citizens from other countries come in and build schools and toilets etc. for them not to mention the smaller scale outright government aid. it's 140th/186 per capita and really only ahead of other african countries. they just have a shitload of people. if you think having the ~30th biggest economy with the 5th largest population is impressive or even respectable I don't know what to tell you

[Anonymous No.11035993]

>>11035948

Again you are missing the point, Nigeria's IQ should prevent them from being able to match Argentina economy wise regardless of its population.

>what's so impressive about that?

How about the fact Venezuela with the same IQ of 84 imploded on itself and Greece with an IQ of 92 had to be pulled from the brink of implosion by it's neighbors. Meanwhile Nigeria stayed functional enough to keep afloat.

[Anonymous No.11036294]

>>11035948
I love when some faggot in 4chan tries to argue about a complex system such as economics in the most oversimplified sense.

Not to say that you are still using Lynn's data, which is highly questionable ("look at these countries with the average IQ of a down syndrome kid totally logical bro").

[Anonymous No.11036305]

>>11035086
/thread

[Anonymous No.11036308]

>>11035869
>Everything IQ studies talk about states that such a population shouldn't even function well enough to match the economic output of Argentina.
Maybe brainlets like you will realize at some point that IQ is not science.

[Anonymous No.11036313]

>>11035391
>long-term effects of colonization
In the case of Haiti the negroes literally massacred the local whites and stole all their shit. They were at absolutely no material disadvantage from that point on.

[Anonymous No.11036320]

>>11035610
>Rwanda's low homicide rate
What? Is there a machete shortage or something?

[Anonymous No.11036324]

>>11035869
>>11035993
Nigeria has A LOT of oil which finances the government (ie: the military) to keep things relatively in check, but it's still an utter shithole.
Besides the country has suffered many military coups and civil wars over the last decades, the elections are plagued with frauds too.
It's as stable as an african country can be which is not very much.

>>11035896
Arabs didn't invent much (besides Islam, which is dysgenic religion), persians did.

[Anonymous No.11036325]

>>11035022
>functional = slaves to the collective and stability
I mean you're technically right, but if so might as well replace everyone with robots.

[Anonymous No.11036327]

>>11036313
IIRC France and the United States stopped trading with Haiti, and killing the whites raised up questions about how the new society would be formed (in other words, who's going to be leader and who's not), causing many conflicts.

Many people here also talk a lot of shit about IQ, but many African countries, and Haiti too, have been dictatorships for a long time, so it's logical that they don't see much economic prosperity.
Also, in Africa, due to the way the countries are divided, there are a lot of ethnic conflicts that make impossible to have a stable government.

[Anonymous No.11036331]

>>11036327
>France and the United States stopped trading with Haiti
If only the allies weren't so mean to the nazis for the genocide of slavs, homosexuals and political enemies, then they'd have won :(((

[Anonymous No.11036339]

>>11036320
Your pic cannot be logically possible. It is a lie.

[Anonymous No.11036341]

>>11036331
Like in any revolution?
Just to remind you, they had to pay a fucking embargo not only to France, but to Great Britain and the United States also.
You tell me what do those two countries have to do with a French colonization conflict.

[Anonymous No.11036344]

>>11036327
>many African countries, and Haiti too, have been dictatorships for a long time, so it's logical that they don't see much economic prosperity.
No, that doesn't follow at all. Singapore is the canonical counterexample, but any non-white country you can name that has ever prospered, prospered under either a dictatorship or colonial rule. Hell, even the ebil nazis themselves famously worked a miracle on the battered, bloodied German economy

[Anonymous No.11036348]

>>11036339
>rwanda genocide denial
So, this is a thing now? Really, we're doing this?

[Anonymous No.11036352]

>>11036348
It comes from my own experience of killing animals (I hunt). Killing an animal (or human) with a machete is a lot of work. Now you're going to tell me a bunch of people managed to mow down 400 per hour with machetes alone. That just isn't probable.

[Anonymous No.11036353]

>>11036352
That's a new one. So do you believe the Germans in the 40s killed 6,000,000 people using bug spray in a leaky shower and then cremated them--at a rate of tens of thousands per day--so completely that not a trace was left?

[Anonymous No.11036359]

>>11036352

It's not that hard, all you'd have to do is just cut an artery and people would eventually bleed out. It's not like there's proper emergency infrastructure in Africa and I doubt most people there know how to treat severe cuts properly. Plus you know, all the chaos and panic that'd ensure when there's roving gangs of people with giant knives hacking everything up in their paths.

[Anonymous No.11036361]

>>11036344
>Singapore is the canonical counterexample, but any non-white country you can name that has ever prospered, prospered under either a dictatorship or colonial rule.
Of course, but your argument does not help the idea of racism, because the prosperity depends on the dictator. In Asian countries you have the example of Cambodia, which is a shitty country due to fucking Pol Pot. Or North Korea.
In Africa and Haiti, the ones that became dictators where generally military leaders that just wanted to be tyrants.

History is more complex than just "lol they dumb".

>>11036353
Oh here we go again. Back to >>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11036366]

>>11036359
>It's not that hard, all you'd have to do is just cut an artery and people would eventually bleed out.
EXACTLY!

My friend, I can understand from your very intellectual point of view how easy it is to take a life with a blade by simply severing an essential part of the body of another living thing. But if you ever actually tried to do that before, you'd know that the living thing will be doing its damndest to fight you off or run away from you (and hide). Even if you eventually succeed, you spent a lot of time killing that ONE living being. And now you're going to tell me a bunch of people with machetes mowed down 400 per hour. Preposterous.

[Anonymous No.11036367]

>>11036353
>So do you believe the Germans in the 40s killed 6,000,000 people using bug spray in a leaky shower and then cremated them--at a rate of tens of thousands per day--so completely that not a trace was left?

No. I believe they simply shot them.

[Anonymous No.11036369]

>>11036361
>History is more complex
Exactly right. You said dictatorships cause poverty, and your simple mind got BTFO. Now your simple mind is rearranging goalposts to reach the same foregone conclusion from a different angle. It's a cheap, tired rhetorical trick and the saddest part is that you're probably not even doing it consciously: it's simply in your nature to make shit up on the spot, and pretend you're making points on equal footing with IQs 15 or 30 points higher. Oh well, "you do you"

[Anonymous No.11036372]

>>11036367
You believe the germans shot 6,000,000 unarmed Jewish prisoners in the 40s, and made no effort to dispose of the bodies? That's unusual, I haven't heard anyone else claiming that. Is this based on your experience hubting wild game?

[Anonymous No.11036375]

>>11036366

I seriously doubt the machetes that were being used were state of the art straight out of the box either. Those things are probably old, rusted and full of nasty animal blood on them so even if you run away and stop the bleeding you'd still have to deal with infections so I'd imagine many people die from infections over time. You don't need a huge amount of organization to genocide a population, you just need a lot of people and a lot of weapons. If the mongolians can travel across the countryside and kill a fuckton of people with their swords and spears I think a bunch of africans with machetes and trucks can do the same thing too.

[Anonymous No.11036378]

>>11036372
>You believe the germans shot 6,000,000 unarmed Jewish prisoners in the 40s, and made no effort to dispose of the bodies?

No, I believe they shot a lot of Jews. Maybe not 6 million, but a lot.

[Anonymous No.11036379]

>>11036369
So you're going to stop giving arguments?
I explained my point there, and gave you two examples, and it's a totally valid point.

>hurr durr simple mind
Not an argument.

[Anonymous No.11036382]

>>11036375
Fair enough, but I'm one to believe that if you have a man who is determined to genocide people with a machete alone, some of those people will try to fight back (if they don't try to run and hide and I mentioned before). They might have machetes of their own. Even if they don't, a club of any kind would be enough to at least slow down this number of 400 deaths every hour.

[Anonymous No.11036389]

>>11036341
Killing white women and children might have something to do with it

[Anonymous No.11036395]

>>11036382

I mean there's no doubt there was probably *some* resistance. But there probably wasn't enough to actually push back the group comitting the genocide. The 400 per hour is more than just a guestimate than anything else. Like, the genocide is over and you tally up that 1 million people died over the period of a year from this group of perpetrators, you could probably make a rough guess on how many people died per hour by dividing up the numbers. I doubt there was somebody travelling with the group writing down statistics of their kill count.

[Anonymous No.11036396]

>>11036379
You hot-swapped your old, defeated point for a new one. You're either dishonest, or dishonest and dim. Either way, I don't think either of us will gain much by continuing, I'll keep debunking your nonsense, and you'll keep replacing it with new nonsense while aggressively pushing the onus onto me.

[Anonymous No.11036409]

>>11036352
>>11036361
Nice cognitive dissonance you got there.

>>11036361
North Korea has a higher HDI than any african country (except Maghrebi countries).

>History is more complex than just "lol they dumb".
It's really not as much about history as it is about the capacity of africans to create and thrive in a modern techno industrial society
Empirically it seems the majority of them can't

>>11036366
>a bunch of people
You realize that it was a country wide ethnic genocide right? Average joe were literally killing their neighbors in every village.
Mob violence can mow a shitton of people in a single day
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre

[Anonymous No.11036410]

>>11036409
>You realize that it was a country wide ethnic genocide right?

So a third world country without much infrastructure in the way of long-distance communication is going to coordinate a country-wide genocide all going on at the same time? Riiiiiiight...

[Anonymous No.11036420]

>>11036410
It was a radio news reporter who told them to go forth and kill.

[Anonymous No.11036433]

>>11036396
Then debunk it faggot. I'm still waiting.

[Anonymous No.11036437]

>>11035002
my professor told me what mistakes taleb did in his refutation of IQ, i can translate the email from professor into english if you want, he said that taleb maybe is popular but he is not a great scientist at all

[Anonymous No.11036445]

>>11036433
>aggressively pushing the onus
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.11036467]

>>11036437
Please do. I would appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.11036614]

>>11035904
>environmental factors can explain the difference.
Except when you put africans in western environments they still fail IQ tests at rates predicted by the difference being largely genetic.
And why shouldn't they? They are genetically different, no surprise they would get different results.
> race """science""" is hopelessly politicized
No kidding.
Evolution is right though and it doesn't care about socially progressive egalitarian positions.

[Anonymous No.11036652]

>>11036614
African immigrants are extremely successful.

[Anonymous No.11036677]

>>11036652
Sure, if success and crime mean the same thing now. Or if you only count the 0.00001% that really are doctors and engineers.
How can they be successful though? What happens to all the colonialism and racism that holds all the non-immigrant africans back?

[Anonymous No.11036707]

Fake news, Fake information
>>11035309
>>11035265
>>11035391
>>11035457
>>11035481
>>11035869
>>11035904
>>11036652
Obvious troll posts
>>11035521
>>11035588

[Anonymous No.11036735]

>>11035807
>Better than you.
>Paid 5 bucks an hour for buggy code that crashes planes.
Pick one.

[Anonymous No.11036783]

>>11035002
ditch the course and find a literate professor instead

[Anonymous No.11036810]

>>11036324
>islam is a dysgenic religion
I've heard this before, I'm curious how the negative selection gradient acts.

[Anonymous No.11036848]

>>11035086
> Temperament is different
Number of atomic bombs dropped on civilians by white people: 2
Number of atomic bombs dropped on civilians by black people: 0

Enough said.

[Anonymous No.11036960]

>>11036324

>Nigeria has A LOT of oil which finances the government (ie: the military) to keep things relatively in check

So did Venezuela anon.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Venezuelan_oil_industry

Again same IQ too, yet it imploded while Nigeria didn't.

>>11036320

Rawanda obviously had a genocide, but so did Germany too. Yet these genocides are not applied to the current homicide rate due to occurring decades ago.

[Anonymous No.11036981]

>>11035378
>>11035494
These will probably be the most dim witted posts on /sci/ this week

[Anonymous No.11036994]

White people truly are subhumans.