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Let's be honest: if you struggle with this, you should leave this board. This is high school level in other countries.

>> No.11024850

Derivatives are easypeasy, integrals are fucking hard

>> No.11024863

>>11024850
Derivatives are literally 3 or so algorithms. For some integrals you have to think a bit. But it doesn't look like you're doing any super hard ones in calculus 1.

>> No.11024864

>>11024850
Brainlet.

>> No.11024868

>>11024863
Who said anything about calc 1 integrals, I'm talking calc 3 shit

>> No.11024883

>>11024868
The subject of this thread is literally "Calc 1"

>> No.11024892

>>11024850
>derivatives but backwards
yeah cal 1 integrals are sooooo hard

>> No.11024902

>>11024892
Well integration by parts was something I understood for all of five seconds then I just used the formula after that

>> No.11024905

I dont know any of this and im about to start my math degree. Its okay because university is a place to learn, if I knew all the stuff already university would be useless

>> No.11024917

>>11024905
>university would be useless
I'm just saying, that what you call university is called high school in most other countries and virtually everyone does it.

>> No.11024919

Couple weeks into calculus 1 now, doing well, already past the chain rule and beyond. Quotient rule was a joke. Product rule remains my specialty.

I ask my professor his thoughts on quantum mechanics and partial derivatives. He's impressed i know about the subject. We converse after class for some time, sharing mathematical insights; i can keep up. He tells me of great things ahead like series and laplacians. I tell him i already read about series on wikipedia. He is yet again impressed at my enthusiasm. What a joy it is to have your professor visibly brighten when he learns of your talents.

And now I sit here wondering what it must be like to be a brainlet, unable to engage your professor as an intellectual peer. All of the deep conversations you people must miss out on because you aren't able to overcome the intellectual IQ barrier that stands in the way of your academic success... it's so sad. My professor and I know each other on first name basis now, but i call him Dr. out of respect.

And yet here you brainlets sit, probably havent even made eye contact with yours out of fear that they will gauge your brainlet IQ levels.

A true shame, but just know it is because i was born special that i am special. I can't help being a genius, nor can my professor. Two of a kind is two flocks in a bush.

>> No.11024923

>>11024902
That comes in cal 2 though

>> No.11024938

>>11024923
You Americans. In Canada, calc isn't divide by numbers. I did what you would consider up to calc 2 in high school and then I did it again in first year uni with a biology spin and then I did another calculus that just barely touched upon diffyq. But we didn't do sequences or proofs. So the calc part was ahead of you guys but we don't do as much

>> No.11024941

>>11024919
8/10, I'm actually a bit mad

>> No.11024944

>>11024919
If you could reach ur lil peen with ur mouth, you’d be the type to suck yourself off eagerly wouldn’t you?

Probably like the smell of your own farts too

>> No.11025061

>>11024846
What if I struggle in Calc 3?

>> No.11025067

>>11025061
Not sure what the topics are. I just looked up calc 1 because there were several threads about it. It's basically a subset of the second last year of German high school (Gymnasium)

>> No.11025076

>>11024919
This is really good bait. I can't count the number of faggot undergrads like this I've had to deal with.

>> No.11025093

>>11024919
I never talked much to my professors because they would literally tremble in my presence. Not something I'd want, I'd mainly remain quiet in the classes, but when they'd say something they were unsure of and look to see the reaction on my face, which I'd normally keep blank and expressionless as to try to not insight more fear in them not wanting to let them know that they were brainlets in my presence. They knew anyways.

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11025147

>tfw junior in university
>was successful in chemistry, organic chemistry, and a ton of biology courses
>haven't even taken calc 1 yet
>I'm taking precalc again for the second time because I don't know anything; I got an 89% on the precalc final 2 years ago and didn't take a math class since then so I forgot everything.

I honestly chalk it up to I don't give a fuck about mental masturbation via mathematics. Give me the formula so I can plug and chug.

>> No.11025155

>>11025147
Stop blocking yourself. You seem to be clever enough. Drop the fear/prejudice and be open. You'll manage. I've taught students like you before. Those who don't study, who always want the formula to plug and play without thinking at the ones who fail. Those who do the homework, who try to solve the exercises by thinking, not by looking up formulas like a telephone number, are the ones who ace the exam. And I don't think that one group is more clever than the other, one is just closed. I don't know if that's because of traumata from school off because they have been told that maths is not for them.

>> No.11025163

>>11024846
>He learns calculus in university and not high school

>> No.11025166
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>>11025155
It's hard anon, it's just so boring and not applicable to my life. Just like gen eds, I do the work to get through the class and my memory takes a dump. I just need to get through calc 1, 2, diff eq, calc-based physics, and physical chemistry and I'm home free.

>> No.11025186

>>11024846
>Let's be honest: if you struggle with this, you should leave this board.
Nah, if you struggle with this, you should keep trying and don't let people bring you down.

>> No.11025211

>>11025166
It's not the specific details of your math courses that are relevant to you, but the quantitative intuition and reasoning practice. It's absolutely applicable to your life if you want to think about anything novel at all in your preferred field. You can't plug and chug unsolved problems. Why are you aspiring to be a robot?

>> No.11025213

>>11025211
>trying to reason with retarded weebbabbys

>> No.11025224

>>11025213
Because >she is probably just barely over age and doesn't know any better. If anons can help >her let go of these toxic memes, then surely that's a good thing?

>> No.11025304

>>11025166
>>11025166
It's not even hard. You're just demotivated. See
>it's just so boring and not applicable to my life

>> No.11025417

>>11025147
Honestly, I think you're more fit for the medical route with all the sciences. Calc isn't even necessary in medicine. All the people who say Calc is super important are the ones going CS, engineering, stuff like that. Literally, if you got algebra down, then you're set for life, dude. Don't kill yourself over it.

>> No.11025422

>>11025147
Straight up, my older sister is a BSN nurse totally fine with her job and making 70k with 3 day workweeks. She never touched Calc during her studies in college. You're good, m8.

>> No.11025434

I still don't know why it matters when you take calulus

even if you start with precalc or intermediate alebra you'll be caught up mathwise by your junior year anyway

>> No.11025435

>>11025417
>>11025422
Yeah bro, you can always learn Tai's Method if you needa finna numbers and shiet.

>> No.11025439

>>11025147
I still think making sure your foundational algebra skills are rock solid is more important than jumping into calculus as soon as possible

>> No.11025461

>>11025147
>wants to compete in strength based sport
>refuses to lift weights as part of training
k

>> No.11025636

>>11024919
Wait, in what country do people learn about derivatives/integrals in university? Goddamn.

Here, it's absolutely essential to even pass the entry test to enter any course with lots of mathematics.

>> No.11025637

>>11024919
there's two kids like you in my class. kinda jelly bc my prof obviously favors them bc they ask a lot of questions and he never says they are dumb bc they only ask questions about future material of the courses bc they read ahead and like to brown nose. little faggots.

>> No.11025644

>>11024846
>other countries
Which ones?

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>>11024919
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as calculus, is in fact, real analysis, or as I've recently taken to calling it
[math] \left( \mathbf R,\, +,\, \times,\, \leqslant,\, \left| \cdot \right|,\, \tau \,=\, \left\{ A \,\subset\, \mathbf R \mid \forall x\,\in\, A,\, \exists \varepsilon \,>\, 0,\, \left] x \,-\, \varepsilon,\, x \,+\, \varepsilon\right[ \,\subset\, A \right\},\, \bigcap_{\begin{array}{c} A \,\sigma \text{-algebra of}\, \mathbf R \\ \tau \,\subset\, A \end{array}} A,\, \ell \right) [/math]-analysis. Calculus is not a branch of mathematics unto itself, but rather another application of a fully functioning analysis made useful by topology, measure theory and vital [math]\mathbf R[/math]-related properties comprising a full number field as defined by pure mathematics.

Many mathematics students and professors use applications of real analysis every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the application of real analysis which is widely used today is often called "Calculus", and many of its users are not aware that it is merely a part of real analysis, developed by the Nicolas Bourbaki group.

There really is a calculus, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the field they use. Calculus is the computation process: the set of rules and formulae that allow the mathematical mind to derive numerical formulae from other numerical formulae. The computation process is an essential part of a branch of mathematics, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete number field. Calculus is normally used in combination with the real number field, its topology and its measured space: the whole system is basically real numbers with analytical methods and properties added, or real analysis. All the so-called calculus problems are really problems of real analysis.

>> No.11025696

>>11025659
Absolutely P h e n o t y p i c a l

>> No.11025742

>>11025644
Not op but i took it in senior year for high school

>> No.11025747

>>11025659
In the us

>> No.11025752

>>11024919
Is this a copypasta?

>> No.11025756

To this day I still don't understand how to integrate e^(x^2)

>> No.11025763

>>11025756
Subtle. Most of /sci/ won't be able to understand this.

>> No.11025766

>>11025067
Anon here that studies at the Hochschule Kaiserslautern.
70% of the students have abitur and yet calc 1 has a failing ratr of 60%.

>> No.11025769

>>11025742
>I
Are you a country?

>> No.11025790

>>11025644
Romania
t. Romanian

>> No.11025839

In what country is it not high school level? This is Year 11 (Age 15) in UK

>> No.11027296

Yeah sure you can treat Calc 1 as another high school math class with doing non dimensional and subconscious computing of numbers, letters, and symbols in memorized deductions and protocols of approaching problems, but it's greater than that. It's the description of the world on one of the highest levels of abstraction. Or at least the start of telling that story. I fucking obsessed about that in calc 1 and where these patterns immerse in other phenomena and within my own deductive reasoning/logic. I got lost on tests because of this, because I constantly derailed the math drilling flow state required for taking math tests.

>> No.11027311

>>11024919
Fuck I didn't even remember there was a quotient rule. I just do the power rule but with negative one or whatever and power rule.

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>>11025637
even worse are the kids who scoff at the people asking questions

>> No.11027318

>>11027311
Oops I meant product rule.

>> No.11027351

>>11024902
It’s just the product rule. Or do you not get the product rule?

>> No.11027353

>>11025752
lurk more

>> No.11027362

>not learning calculus in your gifted placement elementary school math class