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Do sperms have consciousness? Personalities?

>> No.11018082

>consciousness
no
>personalities
not actively, but they hold the genetics for it. but only half

>> No.11018087

>>11018082
Which half though? Is it random? Does that mean each sperm contains a random selection of half? How does sperm creation even happen?

>> No.11018088

>>11018087
it happens in the balls

>> No.11018094

>>11018087
Sperm are haploid gametes, and only hold half of the chromosomes normal chromosomes have, just like eggs. They combine to make a full set in the zygote, and are produced via meiosis in the testicles.

>> No.11018183

>>11018078
>Do sperms have consciousness?
define "consciousness"

>> No.11018222

>>11018183
consciousness: noun. something normies talk about but it has no real definition. synonyms: gibberish, jabberwocky, gobbledeegook

>> No.11018225

>>11018078
If any other sperm had fertilized the egg instead of me, would I just not exist or would I be me but just have a different set of genes?

>> No.11018238

This has to be bait.
The absolute state of /sci/

>> No.11018261
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>>11018078
Nigga looking like Yes Man from FONV

>> No.11018280

>>11018225
Someone smart answer this please

>> No.11018291

>>11018280
If a single moth in China flapped its wings a couple extra times before you were born, you would not "be you"

>> No.11018584

>>11018291
Shut up Ashton Kutcher. I said someone smart answer it.

>> No.11018630

>>11018291
How is this possible? What's the effect called? Why can a couple flaps of the wing of a useless insect cause a significant change in the dynamic of the universe?

>> No.11018650

>>11018630
because

>> No.11018659

>>11018630
Causal determinism. Different events requires different universe.

>> No.11018816

>>11018225
depends if you believe in a soul and all that. I don't. I believe your personality is made up of the same chemicals and neurons that your genes determine

>>11018078
no, single cell organisms do not have consciousness or personalities

>>11018183
conscienceness, at a real basic level, being the state of not only being able to intake and process information and make judgments (not just if A than B programming), but also cognitive self awareness
"I think, therefore I am"

>> No.11018829

>>11018225
>>11018280
You would be you but with a different set of genes. It was already fated who your parents were to be, but the particular arrangement and configuration of the physical matter that comprises the flesh suit unto which you incarnate is largely stochastic.

>> No.11018842

>>11018630
it's called the butterfly effect
it does not need to be a butterfly. it happens all the fucking time and it's kind of scary how much of history is the product of this effect, such as a wrong left turn resulted in two cities getting vaporized, or how a misplaced stick resulted in the Roman Empire being the ones to conquer the Mediterranean and shape world history and modern governing and determine what language you're speaking right now, or how a retard sperm edged out a different retard sperm and this thread was created

>> No.11018854

>>11018225
You would not exist but someone pretty similar to you would exist. I don’t think YOU could have consciousness of this similar person unless your model of consciousness is something like “I” experience a moving set of things that are very similar to each other and experience them less the more different they get.

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>>11018078
Yes, they are the 'fluid of transcendental time'. Having a son/male heir is a punishment bestowed upon only the worst of women/men pairings.

>> No.11018861

>>11018829
It would not be him/her except only superficially. Maybe they would have different hair color or be bipolar maybe they would be much smarter— genes can transform your life/health, and it could be a small sequence here or there that makes the difference. The thing is that sperm that obviously has horrible mutations wouldn’t survive long enough to make it to the egg. If it is produced at all it probably dies immediately or would be out swum.

>> No.11018868

>>11018078
It is an interesting question. They clearly have motion and the mechanics of it seem directional. Why isn’t that enough for consciousness? Do sperm decide their specific movements? If so then consciousness also probably exists in bacteria and plants.

>> No.11018875

When most people talk about consciousness they are explicit in referring to a human mind and it’s fairly complex present activities like thinking... I don’t think this can be a consistent definition of consciousness in the first place but on my view a lot of things are more or less conscious because they display some measure of action potential and decision making. Some people don’t like this because humans are supposed to be conscious and that’s it, but I think it’s obvious animals are also, among other things.

>> No.11019057

>>11018630
Not a moth, my child, but
A BUTTERFLY

>> No.11019107

>>11018094
This

>> No.11019135

>>11018875
I thought consciousness meant that you're aware of your existence.

>> No.11019239

>>11019135
Any kind of decision making implies awareness.

>> No.11019251

>>11019239
>internet routers have awareness

>> No.11019255

>>11019251
>as do IP addresses and geographical locations called LAND.

>> No.11019263

>>11019255
>>11019251
1. Yes probably
2. Do internet routers decide things?

>> No.11019295

>>11019263
1. They do, by virtue of stimulating the query inside you.
2. They are the mailmen of porn.

>> No.11019365

>>11019295
I’m sorry how does that amount to decision making?

>> No.11019380

>>11019365
Because I don't remember signing for every fucking data packet that gets filtered through my neurons, so why would you through your own circuitry do that, fellow electron spin-dancer?

>> No.11019527

>>11019107
you don't have to say 'This'. You are'nt on instagram you cancerous faggot.

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>>11019527
Just because you don't understand haploidity doesn't mean you have to be rude

>> No.11020071

>>11018225
You would be kinda your fraternal twin that never got born. So no.

>> No.11020671

>>11020071
She sounds awesome, where is she?

>> No.11020933

>>11018225
Are you sure you are the sperm and not the egg?
The really creepy shit happens when you talk about ova.