/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.11008481]

>tfw you see someone who doesn't want to help stop climate change

[Anonymous No.11008502]

>>11008481
I don't give a fuck about climate change.

[Anonymous No.11008509]

https://climate.nasa.gov/
Nasa is in favor of climate change being a legitimate 'happening'. very sad that the internet right-wingers and pol degenerates are unable to accept that their is legitamite evidence in support of climate change. But alas, continue to shit post as the global temperature will rise by 1.5 degrees Celsius. You won't be shit posting in 50 years when the 1.5 degree Celsius change happens that confirms that you were a brainlet and unable to this coming.

[Anonymous No.11008511]

>>11008502
Based retard sociopath
You’ll be used for biofuel

[Anonymous No.11008514]

>>11008509
>unable to this coming.
unable to see* this coming. Typo btw.

[Anonymous No.11008519]

>>11008509

It's gonna be more than 1.5 degrees Celsius at this rate, a lot more

[Anonymous No.11008558]

>>11008481
Environmental awareness is such a first world privilege. Good luck convincing developing countries that have a million other things to worry about.

[Anonymous No.11008569]

>>11008481
How can a 16 year old be so based? All the 16 year olds I know don't care about science or global topics, they just care about phones, booze, weed and makeup.

[Anonymous No.11008572]

>>11008558

>smaller shor term problems are more important that enormous long term problems


This is probably why we haven't reached the stars if we ever do

[Anonymous No.11008588]

People who think there is a hoax put on by researchers making 60k a year haven't spent much time around them other other professions that have a direct stake in denying climate change and demonizing nuclear power.

[Anonymous No.11008604]

>>11008502
that has to change

[Anonymous No.11008605]

>>11008572
They are. Your kids ear infection is more important than some swedish girls temper tantrum.

[Anonymous No.11008613]

>>11008605
I would take your point if she were alone and had no validity to her arguments.

My kid's ear infection will get better soon, the environment won't

[Anonymous No.11008630]

>>11008569
Sounds like you, good fellow, are a prime candidate for Quentin's Diamond Dogs. Walk with your head held high!

[Anonymous No.11008638]

[Anonymous No.11008640]

>>11008613
She and her parents are con artists. It's no different from Mother Theresa or that "Marjoe" kid.
She has no arguments. She is a 16 year old, politicized kid that will regurgitate whatever rhetoric is fed to her. But like Trump, she is really just a symptom, not the cause.
The truth is: the masses are scientifically illiterate, no matter what side they are on. They would follow any dumb cause, if it is popular enough. Only until it actually has any consequences, though.
As soon as these teenagers understand that carbon dioxide reduction has a real and dramatic impact on their lifestyle and that virtue points won't get them laid, the drama will be over.

[Anonymous No.11008642]

>>11008640

Blah blah blah

[Anonymous No.11008647]

>>11008642
Point taken.

[Anonymous No.11008653]

>>11008640
>She has no arguments
Unlike (You) I suppose?
> As soon as these teenagers understand that carbon dioxide reduction has a real and dramatic impact on their lifestyle
Do you think, those kids are vegan because they think, kale tastes better than bacon? They're already sacrificing more than you'll ever be willing to.

[Anonymous No.11008684]

>>11008640
How dare you
HOW....DARE YOU

[Anonymous No.11008685]

>>11008653
>They're already sacrificing more than you'll ever be willing to.
For the moment. Just like any trend, it will fade away. I've seen a few of those kids on German television. Some 15 year old boy, proudly declaring he will become a vegan now, right next to his lefty-alternative girlfriend. Everybody knew what's up.
It's all so pathetically transparent. Everybody has been that politicized kid, who knew nothing, but understood everything at some point. Politicians aren't embarrassed by Greta, they are embarrassed for her.

[Anonymous No.11008687]

>>11008481
the amount of hysteria surrounding a 16 year old girl boggles the mind. must've struck a nerve

[Anonymous No.11008695]

>>11008509
>You won't be shit posting in 50 years
Yes I absolutely will.

[Anonymous No.11008697]

>>11008685
>Everybody has been that politicized kid, who knew nothing, but understood everything at some point
Sure. I skipped school to drink beer and smear anarchist symbols on park benches. I think, those climate kids are more based than me. I've grown up to become a scientist and I'm honestly pissed about politics, especially German politics. Look at Andreas Scheuer. Every "smoke weed erry day" kid would be a better minister than him.

[Anonymous No.11008717]

>>11008687

it's obviously a media stunt designed to elicit strong emotions from people and impair their reasoning abilities. the amygdala hijack.

[Anonymous No.11008728]

>>11008717
>elicit strong emotions from people

The only people that get their emotions elicited by "media stunts" aren't fit for reproduction

[Anonymous No.11008735]

>>11008640
Ok but how does that stop the underlying argument? She may just be a kid used as a stunt, but that doesn't make climate change any less real. You're like the opposite version of the people you criticize, they see a kid and start supporting the cause, you see a kid and hate on it despite all the proof and scientifical research on the matter.

[Anonymous No.11008739]

>>11008717
But it's for a good cause, so you're not allowed to criticize it. Even if the fake outrage and hysteria is scary as fuck.

[Anonymous No.11008742]

>>11008481
I just bought a 2005 F-250 for my business(the second one actually). I will drive a lap of honor in it for Greta.

[Anonymous No.11008749]

>>11008742
pic related is you

Triggering liberals is the new bread and circuses and the plebeians lap it up every fucking time

[Anonymous No.11008759]

>>11008749
Worked good enough with you

[Anonymous No.11008761]

>>11008735
Anthropogenic climate change is real. Yet I stand by my opinion about Saint Greta. You see a contradiction where there is none.

[Anonymous No.11008763]

>>11008759
>implying I'm triggered

You really have a low threshold. I guess replying to you at all means I'm mad or even care one way or another what you do

[Anonymous No.11008773]

>>11008763
Then all is well. I drive my truck and you share public transport with all your dear friends while having a bug sandwich. The end.

[Anonymous No.11008775]

>>11008773

I have a car and eat meat too ;^)

[Anonymous No.11008783]

>>11008481
Why would anyone stop something that will increase forest cover and crop yields?

[Anonymous No.11008799]

>>11008481
Ok, well what can we do realistically?

>make everyone get electric cars by 2030
You bankrupt every small business, you destroy the lives of the poor.
>200% fuel tax
destroy the lives of rural people, food prices skyrocket

almost any legislation to combat climate change disproportionately affects the poor.

[Anonymous No.11008810]

>>11008799
>almost any legislation to combat climate change disproportionately affects the poor.
This. And also the lower middle class. That is the real problem that has to be addressed. Major parties in Europe will lose what little support they still have, if they don't consider the options carefully.

[Anonymous No.11008824]

>>11008640
Yeah and why should I pay CO2 taxes in my europoor land while chinks keep polluting the world like it's nothing? I ain't paying shit.

[Anonymous No.11008825]

>>11008481
cDDDDDDD xddd X XDDD XDD LE CLIMATE CHANGE GIRL !!! FUCK HER LOL!!!! XDFD FUCKING STUPID SWEIDISH CUNT!! XDDDDD

[Anonymous No.11008858]

>>11008824
You don't buy anything manufactured in China? What are you posting from right now?

[Anonymous No.11008926]

>>11008858
It doesn't impact the world in such scale another tax would impact my income.
I buy Chinese stuff not because I want to fuck environment but because I have no money to buy other stuff.
You can't just take away money that I don't have for your globo schlomo agenda

[Anonymous No.11008953]

>>11008642
OH NO WORDS
ME NO READ IT HURT HEAD, GO AWAY NAZI

[Anonymous No.11008954]

>>11008569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwLt_5t73g
>what message are you trying to send
>uuuh I think you should ask someone else
BASED BASED BASED BASED

[Anonymous No.11008974]

>>11008509
Climate change is a natural phenomenon that has happened for ever, what you and nasa mean is anthropogenic climate change, which is a completely different thing than climate change. As of today there are no proofs for the anthropogenic climate change hypothesis.

[Anonymous No.11009003]

>>11008926
Why didn't you just buy a secondhand computer? They're cheaper.

[Anonymous No.11009005]

>>11008953
Get a load of this faggot

[Anonymous No.11009009]

>on the Science board
>denies basic scientific findings

Sure is /pol/ on here

[Anonymous No.11009042]

>>11008974
You know it's funny. I think the climate change retards actually think that the climate ISN'T supposed to change, when in reality the climate has literally never in the history of the planet ever stayed the same. They think we're supposed to force it to grind to a halt and have everything be the same from now on.

[Anonymous No.11009053]

>>11009042
>>11008974
>being intentionally misleading
Everyone knows climate changes. the problem is the rate of change. In the last glacial/interglacial cycles the CO2 of the atmosphere never rose above 300ppm and the rate of change was less than 50ppm every 200 years. Not we have raised the CO2 of the atmosphere by 100 ppm in less than 100 years

[Anonymous No.11009088]

>>11009053
>the problem is the rate of change
Lets assume that your data is correct. Why does this even matter in the first place? It was always going to get hotter or colder and now it's going to happen faster theoretically?

[Anonymous No.11009100]

>>11009088
Gee, I wonder what will happen when we rapidly change the climate and environmental regime we have built our civilization and agriculture on.

[Anonymous No.11009106]

>>11009088
How fucking retarded are you?

[Anonymous No.11009110]

>>11009100
So we have to adapt sooner than we theoretically would have but it was always inevitable anyway and things weren't ever going to stay the same? And the effects and actual repercussions aren't even known?

>>11009106
>REEE
Lol. You can't answer the question.

[Anonymous No.11009121]

>>11009110
Yes, not dealing with climate change with foresight will cause forceful changes to our society. What happens when major population centers in the tropics become unproductive in respect to agriculture? Where will those people move to?

[Anonymous No.11009123]

The only important study regarding manmade climate change

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/feart.2019.00223/full

>tl;dr: The models are shit, see pic rel

[Anonymous No.11009125]

>>11009088
First of all, life is not adapted to change that fast. All the crops that sustain us will start giving trouble.
Second, the change anthropogenic climate change is bringing is different because it will be unstoppable and irreversible outside geological timescales which no one really cares about.

But I guess "owning the libs" is more based than caring about this stuff.

[Anonymous No.11009130]

>>11008481
I want to stop climate change more than anything but when I bring up practical solutions people assume I'm insane. They're not wrong but it doesn't disprove the fact that Fed and Oriental sphere of influence has to go.

[Anonymous No.11009133]

>>11009123
Hmm

[Anonymous No.11009136]

>>11009121
>>11009125
Except you don't even know how fast the "change" will be or what changes will even occur. 30 years ago they said California would be flooded by now.

[Anonymous No.11009140]

>>11009133
Read the study retardo. Most models the IPCC uses have linear error propagation

[Anonymous No.11009153]

>>11008481
What have you done?

[Anonymous No.11009165]

>>11008481
I care about climate change and a shift to renewable resources
I don't care about some smarmy 16 year old downie being fed lines by special interest groups to berate me into eating bugs instead of trying to promote nuclear energy or stopping China/India

[Anonymous No.11009174]

>>11009140
IPCC models demonstrably underestimate warming. You’re arguing against computer models, not global warming

[Anonymous No.11009190]

Poor girl, she's missing out on her teenage years. She should be getting fucked senseless by Chads instead of being used as a political tool by her parents.

[Anonymous No.11009208]

>>11009174
yup. ipcc models aren't factoring a lot of shit. methane release from permafrost melting. an ice-free artic that'll occur within the next 20 years. a loss of the aerosol masking effect (also known as global dimming). and the ipcc data itself is out of date because of the lengthy process to compile the data

[Anonymous No.11009213]

I didn't spend any money on consumer garbage. I didn't help finance some bloated motherfucker's new jet boat and beach vacation.

[Anonymous No.11009221]

>>11009213
meant for>>11009153

[Anonymous No.11009229]

>>11009140
>but the models
We can see the very clear trend with the instrumental data

[Anonymous No.11009236]

>>11008742
Fuckers like you are going to have to count on eachother more and more as the vast majority start getting grossed out by your behavior.

Eventually it'll be just you and your insular cult-like circle of friends, known by everyone else as "The Consumers".

It's another case of an entire society having to change laws and curtail their own freedoms because of the most extreme retards in society acting like extreme retards.

[Anonymous No.11009251]

>>11009053
What is the source of that graph?

[Anonymous No.11009261]

>>11008653
when one consumes an entirely whole foods plant based diet with no added sugars, refined oils/carbs and animal products (especially processed meats) you would be surprised how much your tastebuds adapt to the natural flavors found in these foods.

[Anonymous No.11009268]

>>11009053
Let's assume your graph is correct, you have no proof co2 increases temperature or causing climate change, there is no proof higher co2 levels are a problem even at the rate of your graph.

[Anonymous No.11009286]

>>11009251
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature06949

[Anonymous No.11009287]

>>11008481
Every time
Every FUCKING time
EVERY GODDAMN TIME I go on this board, or go into ANY newsfeed related to science, all I get is "OMFG CLIMATE ChANGE WILL KILL UZ AWL", and I'm so goddamn tired of it. WHY must climate change be forced upon me? So what if people die? It's not like they fucking do anything special.
I hope that all of those "HURR DURR CLIMATE" vegans die from there own fear of global warming. Greta thunberg isn't doing jack shit against climate change. If she should go after anyone, it should be an industrialist country that makes iphones but nooo, it all MUST be the fault of europe and america.

[Anonymous No.11009320]

>>11009261
>consumes
why not just say "eats"

Are you a CONSUUUUUUUUUUUUUMER?

[Anonymous No.11009357]

>>11009268
You keep spouting the same bullshit that CO2 does not cause warming when all the evidence says otherwise. Also you ignore the previous warming rates were about a degree per 1000 years
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/330/6002/356
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jgrd.50668

[Anonymous No.11009384]

>>11009287
Caring is normal schizo.

[Anonymous No.11009407]

>>11008638
>genius IQ
>anarchist

lmao

[Anonymous No.11009409]

>>11009287
>Lol I’m a sociopath who doesn’t care about others xD

[Anonymous No.11009420]

>>11009287
What can we do to stop stopping climate change?

[Anonymous No.11009423]

>my country is responsible for 0.17% of worldwide GHG emissions
What is even the point?

[Anonymous No.11009426]

>>11009420
Ignore retarded libcuck tears, as usual.

[Anonymous No.11009427]

>>11009423
What country faggot?

[Anonymous No.11009430]

>>11009423
PAY YOUR TAXES GOYIM. Eat the fucking bugs and shut up.

[Anonymous No.11009434]

>>11009384
>>11009409
If you cared, you'd stfu and giv schizo peace. What help is acting like a bunch of bitches? Why can't I yield at a stop sign? Why do my pizza instructions say to preheat the oven? Seems like there's some pretty easy shit that doesn't get fixed.

[Anonymous No.11009461]

>>11009434
If you want peace just go away. This is a discussion board.

[Anonymous No.11009482]

>>11008728
everyone does though, it's an involuntary reaction. if you prod at peoples social insecurities and sore spots, they cannot help but react. it's natural.

>>11008739

i don't really have a dog in the fight, although reducing our environmental impact hardly seems like a *bad* idea...

[Anonymous No.11009487]

>>11008481
>says Trudeau isn't doing enough
Canada's GHG emissions is less than 2% of global she can eat my dick.

>>11009427
he's probably a kiwi

[Anonymous No.11009505]

>>11009487
>Canada's GHG emissions is less than 2% of global
So is Mexico with 4 times as much people. Per capita Canada litters the world just as USA.

[Anonymous No.11009510]

>>11009482
>everyone does though, it's an involuntary reaction. if you prod at peoples social insecurities and sore spots, they cannot help but react. it's natural.
cont.

in fact, i'd say that this principle is the basis of most political media in the USA. it's all designed to piss you off in one way or another.

[Anonymous No.11009543]

>>11009505
Canadians need to heat their homes when its -35

[Anonymous No.11009547]

>>11009505
Per capita is fairly irrelevant in this context. The fact is the only thing that will change anything is China, India and Africa getting their shit together. But they're non-white third worlders so they don't give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.11009555]

>>11009505
It will be much lower when American and Mexico are unlivable deserts and Canada is growing corn and oranges.

[Anonymous No.11009565]

>>11009547
When the average chinese lives like a post-modern westerner it might change.

[Anonymous No.11009587]

>>11008481
I just went and burned a whole tank of gas out of my weekend car thanks to her. Think I'm gonna let all my beaters idle all day tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.11009592]

>>11009587
>Literally burning money cuz some 16 year old pissed you off

This is the level of maturity you can expect from the CONSUUUUUUUUUMERs

[Anonymous No.11009594]

>>11009565
Lmfao. Delusional. Chinks dont give a single fuck.

[Anonymous No.11009599]

>>11009594

i was going to say this but it feels like i'm beating a dead horse. the chinese do not care. they've never cared. they probably never will care.

[Anonymous No.11009601]

Technology will fix climate change before it becomes a real problem.

[Anonymous No.11009605]

>>11009594
>Chinks dont give a single fuck.
Is that why they are the largest market for electric cars and solar panels? Stop shifting the blame, mutt and stop littering around.

[Anonymous No.11009613]

>>11009601
Yea, by spraying the globe with shit that makes the sky black. Fucking liberals will physically turn the world into dystopian shithole just to reproduce capital.

[Anonymous No.11009615]

>>11009605
>being this stupid and ignorant
You have no idea what chinks are like. They have near zero empathy. Fuck off dumbass. You non-white piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.11009616]

>>11009461
This is thy type of brilliance I receive whenever I state obvious solutions that nobody ever talks about. Hey, at least you didn't leave me hanging. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.11009619]

>>11009605
The Yangtze is the number one source of plastic in the ocean.

[Anonymous No.11009623]

>>11009615
Well, they can´t be worse than Americans, can they? Besides memes and stereotypes don´t constitute a valid argument.

[Anonymous No.11009628]

>>11009592
They don't call it fuck you money for no reason.

[Anonymous No.11009633]

>>11009623
>memes and stereotypes don´t constitute a valid argument.
Not him but, since when do they not?

[Anonymous No.11009641]

>>11009633
1889 as set by the International commitee on argument validity

[Anonymous No.11009647]

>>11009623
>eurocucks are this deluded
It always amazes me how they've really trained you guys. The tightly controlled media and news worked wonders.

[Anonymous No.11009649]

>>11009623

[Anonymous No.11009652]

>>11009547
>>11009565
They have been on board for quite some time. China built metro systems in all major cities in the last decade, and revised plans to build maglev. India is planning hyperloop tracks between major cities. Africa never really started polluting much. Basically the only countries that remain firmly in Denial are the US and Australia. How much do they pay you to post that?

[Anonymous No.11009670]

>>11009647
How many evasive arguments will you come up with just so you don´t have to clean your room?

[Anonymous No.11009685]

>>11009641
>1889
We have more advanced methods and more accurate stereotypes now.

[Anonymous No.11009719]

>>11009670
>wash your penis and don't band together
>t. Jordan shekelstein

[Anonymous No.11009723]

>>11009652
>Africa dindu nuffin!

[Anonymous No.11009732]

>>11008638
wasn't ted literally a virgin?

[Anonymous No.11009741]

>>11008481
>being this intimidated by an autistic child

[Anonymous No.11009747]

>>11009652
Those examples you gave are either cherry-picking or ignorant. The point people are trying to make when they bring up the developing world is that they’re doing just that... developing. Their total GHG emissions are growing year on year. Total GHG emissions have been falling in advanced economies since the mid-2000s. That includes the US. Fucking Hyperloop between Mumbai and New Delhi? What does that mean to a half a billion Indians who make dollars a day and burn wood for heat? Maglev in China? Cool, but again, it doesn’t change the growing total GHG emissions. Africa is undeveloped now, but you can bet it’ll rev-up in our lifetime. The only argument to be made here is that these places need to be given a “fair-chance” to develop, which basically means turning a blind eye to hundreds of new coal-fired plants. Not strong footing in this environment of radical green rhetoric...

[Anonymous No.11009749]

>>11009723
Gee, I wonder why.

[Anonymous No.11009756]

>>11008974
>https://climate.nasa.gov/
nice shit graph from no source. my source is NASA. I agree with NASA, not your misleading graphs with no reputable source you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.11009761]

>>11009749
>t-they dindu nuffin!!
>they were forced to throw plastic and trash endlessly into their rivers!
Ah yes. The grand taj mahal, right next to a river filled with trash, corpses and fecal matter. Those third worlders really know how to live.

[Anonymous No.11009764]

>>11009747
China might be developing but it´s still a rather normal pollutor. USA might be stagnating and reducing pollution, but it´s still polluting way above normal countries. As long as this disproportionality is in place such arguments are vain.

[Anonymous No.11009765]

>>11009042
>You know it's funny. I think the climate change retards
https://climate.nasa.gov/
imagine the irony of thinking NASA empoyees are the retards. LOL

[Anonymous No.11009767]

>>11009749
mate, dumping plastics in the rivers is literally a "i don't give a fuck" problem with the general populace. most white countries are actually pretty good when it comes to keeping air and water free of toxins (CO2 is not a toxin).

[Anonymous No.11009771]

>>11009761
It doesn´t matter where the trash is disposed. What matters is for whom it was created in the first place.

[Anonymous No.11009778]

>>11008640
>She has no arguments. She
https://climate.nasa.gov/
check out NASA then for actual reputable data instead of shit blogging on sci. (((GO bACK TO POL)))

[Anonymous No.11009779]

>>11009767
When you pay stupid thirdworlders to take your trash and throw it in ocean, it doesn´t mean you are "very good at handling it." It means you are hiding the problem.

[Anonymous No.11009781]

>>11009771
>It doesn´t matter where the trash is disposed.
Yes it does you fucking retard? Whites put their trash in landfills. Non-Whites just throw it in the river.

>>11009779
Delusion.

[Anonymous No.11009785]

>>11009771
>per capita
the US recycles and has a shit ton of investment into its waste management infrastructure.

[Anonymous No.11009787]

>>11009088
>Lets assume that your data is correct. Why does this even matter in the first place?
it doesn't, you're correct. His data has no reputable source and has a strong possibility for biases. Don't give these shitposting anons from POL the benefit of doubt that they have legitimate sources. trust NASA.
https://climate.nasa.gov/

[Anonymous No.11009789]

>>11009764
>China might be developing but it´s still a rather normal pollutor.
Yeah fucking right. They have the majority of the polluting rivers and their emissions are outrageous.

[Anonymous No.11009792]

>>11009789

[Anonymous No.11009793]

>>11009781
>Whites put their trash in landfills. Non-Whites just throw it in the river.
First of all, stop putting together mutts and europeans. Second, developed countries have insufficient capacity to dispose of their waste, hence they give it to shitholes who throw it in oceans. If you fail to see where´s the problem, you might be suffering from terminal novomundism.

[Anonymous No.11009796]

>>11009764
>As long as this disproportionality is in place such arguments are vain.
You see, this is where you’re not right or wrong, but rather making a political argument that totally depends on personal socioeconomic views. You believe that developed economies deserve the attention because of high per capita (falling total) GHG, whereas others believe that the developing world deserves the attention because of rising total (low per capita). The only thing you’re doing by indicating your preference for the latter is indicating a Marxist, anti-capitalist tendency in your world view.

[Anonymous No.11009797]

>>11009106
>How fucking retarded are you?
https://climate.nasa.gov/
irony
>>11009133
check outu this source POL anon
https://climate.nasa.gov/
>>11009140
>Read the study retardo.
https://climate.nasa.gov/
check out NASA's studies RETARDO.
>>11009286
>https://www.nature.com/articles/nature06949
NASA > nature magazine. LOL

Peace out POL RETARDOS. Watch steven crowder and get of /sci

[Anonymous No.11009798]

>>11009789
China has to provide for 4 times as many people as USA. It´s not surprising that they will have more in absolute numbers. Question is why one mutt pollutes more than two chinks.

[Anonymous No.11009801]

>>11009796
*preference for the former*

[Anonymous No.11009816]

>>11009792
Desperate excuses.

>>11009798
Except total pollution is all that matters.

[Anonymous No.11009818]

>>11009796
Not at all. In orded to combat a global problem, you need either global enforcement mechanism or global cooperation. Since mutt empire is in the stage of decadence and obsessed over oil, enforcement isn´t possible, so cooperation must take place. In order to achieve cooperation, one must set fair rules for all countries. Hence the nations which pollute above average have greater obligation to reduce their pollution, while the poor nations are allowed to develop with some compromise. It´s really basic ass consequentionalistic morality.

[Anonymous No.11009819]

>>11009797
Why is nasa climate experts? Those are space dudes.

[Anonymous No.11009820]

>>11009798
Total GHG emissions per year from USA are FALLING since mid-2000s.

Total GHG emissions per year from China are RISING since 1978 reforms.

Who needs a policy reform when what matters is lowering GHG emissions into the fucking air? I don’t give a fuck what the per capita is. One country is making progress on this matter, the other isn’t. Simple as that. Go ahead, move the goal posts...

[Anonymous No.11009829]

>>11009820
Every year a mutt pollutes twice as much as the average chink. As long as this situation persists, the mutt has no excuses not to further cut his pollution.

[Anonymous No.11009836]

>>11009818
>while the poor nations are allowed to develop with some compromise
Why? You have to have some sort of argument for this. Again, you’re making an inherently Marxist argument, dragging your idea of emissions “fairness” into the equation. If the emissions have to be drastically lowered to save us from this “inevitable” climate collapse event, the indicator is whether a nations total is rising or falling. Are you putting inequality above saving the planet? That’s not very green of you...

[Anonymous No.11009837]

>>11009829
Desperate excuses.

[Anonymous No.11009839]

>>11009605
>the largest market for electric cars and solar panels
doesn't mean dick, they have more than 3 times our population

>stop shifting the blame
the blame is theirs you ignorant liberal, look at (reliable) air pollution statistics

[Anonymous No.11009852]

>>11009829
WHy does that matter when the rich mutts pollute 10x the poor ones and the rich chinks produce 100x the poor ones.

You think a carbon tax is gonna change that?

[Anonymous No.11009854]

>>11009836
>inherently Marxist argument
I´m not talking about working class, anon. I´m taking very simple utilitarian stance. You are for some reason trying to find a Kantian stance that is contrary to your national philosphy, just to justify your pollution.

>You have to have some sort of argument for this.
I did. Fair rules allow for global cooperation. Global cooperation prevents nations from acting like thermodynamic ensembles and allows for a collectively rational action. What´s the other option? Nuking China?

[Anonymous No.11009858]

>>11009852
>You think a carbon tax is gonna change that?
carbon tax will make that even worse. and the rich depend on the poor to produce the crap they consume.

youre completely delusional if you think a carbon tax will have any effect whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.11009861]

>>11008588
that doesn't stop social scientists from releasing bogus research

[Anonymous No.11009867]

>>11009839
>doesn't mean dick, they have more than 3 times our population
Chink have more more than US even in %.

>ignorant liberal
I´m not the one who cries about taxes whenever there´s a problem, mutt.

[Anonymous No.11009869]

>>11009854
Well currently we're in a trade war with china. Did you know that China considers to be at a cold war with the western world? You'll get no aid from china, they hate your guts and will sabotage you as best they can.

[Anonymous No.11009870]

Just dropping by to say that you can't measure CO2 from icecore samples ;) All measurements are flawed, global warming is a projection of confirmation bias upon statistical noise by gay hippie commies. Stay cool globeheads

[Anonymous No.11009874]

>>11009797
why don't you explain us nasa's points in your own words?

[Anonymous No.11009875]

>>11009870
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.11009887]

>>11009867
>more than US even in %
citation needed

>hurr no u *ignores argument*
epic

[Anonymous No.11009888]

>>11009869
Last time I checked they were pretty eager to build a huge ass road leading here and are taking an action to reduce their pollution. Doesn´t sound too hostile to me. Their planned peak is in 2025 IIRC and international organizations are confident in their predictions. Not to mention, Chinks have greater geographical imperative to do something than people here (well apart from meds who are already getting scorched).

[Anonymous No.11009891]

>>11009875
>giving citations
>giving references
>peer review
lol, go home

[Anonymous No.11009894]

>>11009887
>citation needed
Open, little baby
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car_use_by_country

>ignores argument
There was no argument in the first place.

[Anonymous No.11009901]

>>11009888
>build a huge ass road leading here
..because it will benefit them and hurt you, brainlet. You don't have an inkling of business sense do you?

[Anonymous No.11009907]

>>11009901
>..because it will benefit them and hurt you
What if it will benefit both of us? Don´t you mutts love capitalism, free enterprise and shit?

[Anonymous No.11009916]

>>11009894
>wikipedia
>there was no argument
I'll stop now

[Anonymous No.11009921]

>>11009916
Finally an american that acknowledges his inferiourity.

[Anonymous No.11009930]

>>11009907
You're dumb as hell. Seriously. The chinks smile in your face and stab you in the back. Do you know nothing at all about chinks?

Their currency is weak, they won't visit. You'll visit them and spend your money on shitty chink shit. The only chinks that will visit are the richest who will then be encouraged to buy up your real estate just like they've done in Canada and austrailia. You sound very naive and ignorant. Chinks are scum.

[Anonymous No.11009937]

>>11009761

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[Anonymous No.11009949]

>>11009930
Wew, I´ve got banned for racism by being less explicit. That´s beside the point anyway, China is cooperating with the UN on developing less carbon-intensive economy.

[Anonymous No.11009953]

>>11009949
Remember that "smile in your face, stab you in the back" part? They're playing ball just enough to get what they want. They're feigning innocence and non-hostility.

[Anonymous No.11009961]

>>11009953
The´ve already taken action in regards to CC and again, they will feel it´s damage before us.

[Anonymous No.11009963]

>>11009930
>>11009953
I think you've been describing Europeans by mistake. Happens to everyone.

[Anonymous No.11009980]

>>11009921
That's funny. If shit ever really does get rough. America will kill others to take for themselves and their allies.

[Anonymous No.11010000]

>>11009980
it's true, probably the most dangerous aspect of climate change is what America will do to the rest of the world when food production in the midwest fails.

[Anonymous No.11010039]

Reminder that fixing this shit starts with educating third world countries about environmentalism rather than complaining about inane shit on first world countries.

[Anonymous No.11010055]

>>11009963
>europeans
>ever smiling
Maybe if they're really drunk.

[Anonymous No.11010071]

>>11010039
Reminder to stop polluting the atmosphere with greenhouse gassses and the thread with whining.

[Anonymous No.11010082]

>>11010071
Stop throwing plastic in the ocean

[Anonymous No.11010091]

>>11010082
This. Fuck climate change I just want all forms of litter properly disposed of.

[Anonymous No.11010093]

>>11010082
Yes, mutts should stop that as well.

[Anonymous No.11010105]

>>11010093
>Yes, India and Africa should stop that as well.
FTFY Chang

[Anonymous No.11010114]

>>11010105
>Look, paid a nigger to throw my trash into the ocean instead of doing it myself!

I see through your proxies, Timmy.

[Anonymous No.11010121]

Imagine hating snow

[Anonymous No.11010125]

>>11010114
>Hey white people I can responsibly recycle that trash for you if you pay me
>Proceeds to throw trash in the ocean
>WTF this is white peoples fault.

[Anonymous No.11010131]

>>11010125
Stop trying to weasel your way out. Everyone knows how does trash economy work.

[Anonymous No.11010140]

>>11010131
Youre just making excuses for China throwing garbage in the ocean. As if some one forced them to. Also China overpopulating the world doesnt excuse their pollution.

[Anonymous No.11010145]

>>11010000
>America failing.
Nah. Last to fail. We can move food production to the Dakotas or just stop selling our best to other countries.

[Anonymous No.11010152]

>>11010140
Yep. Fuck that guy. And warmers too. The ocean is a bigger priority