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If there are infinite possibilities, wouldn't that also mean there aren't any possibilities?

>> No.11004639

>>11004632
look up axioms

>> No.11004717

>>11004632
I always thought about this as a kid.

> Nothing is impossible

How about the possibility of something being impossible?

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11004722

>>11004717
exactly

>>11004639
I think my question disproves infinity desu. Some things must be impossible, such as the concept of possible things being impossible.

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>>11004722
Welcome to the club.

>> No.11004736

>>11004731
Shouldn't we propose this to physicists or something? Our math points towards unlimited possibilities, but what about the possibility that in some other reality, some scientist creates a bomb that wipes all realities. We're still here posting so that hasn't happened and the fact that it hasn't happened yet means it can't happen. That's a retarded way to put it, but shouldn't we look harder into fucking imaginary numbers or something? Is our math as a race wrong?

>> No.11004791

>>11004736
just cause there's infinite possibilities doesn't mean anything you can think of can happen

>> No.11004805

>>11004791
thinking is creation.

>> No.11004810

>>11004632
>>11004722
the better question is why are frogposters always such brainlets?

>> No.11004811

>>11004805
that doesn't negate what i said

>> No.11004814

>>11004811
you thought that

>> No.11004816

>>11004814
prove it

>> No.11004834

>>11004791
>infinite possibilities
>anything you can think of can't happen
sounds like the possibilities are far from infinite, pal, thanks for reinforcing what I was saying

>> No.11004836

>>11004834
there are infinite numbers between 0 and 1 but they're not every number
some infinities are bigger than others, that's what i mean

>> No.11004870

>>11004836
I'm talking about the all-encompassing infinity, pal. What I'm saying is, in any reality we could concieve, it would have to be somewhat similar to the reality we exist in. There isn't a reality out there filled with deities destroying worlds like in Doctor Strange.
What I'm saying is, our math points towards infinite possibilities, but DBZ characters who can bust through time don't and can't exist which leads me to believe that maybe there is a code out there we can crack, rather than throwing it to the philosophical wind.

>> No.11004896

>>11004870
meme argument
If someone destroyed reality you wouldn't know it, and destruction doesn't mean making something non existent, so infinite new realities would take the place of the destroyed ones.
Also those deities would have infinite targets to choose from, why would you expect it to be us?
> Doctor Strange
>DBZ
come on man

>> No.11004903

>>11004632
Yes, possibilities don't add up. They multiply.

>> No.11004911

>>11004632
umm no? lol

>> No.11004914

>>11004896
>If someone destroyed reality you wouldn't know it
Yeah, but guess what genius, I'll tell you something I do know. I'm posting this right now so I can tell you for a fact reality ISN'T wiped, which means at least that is impossible or it would have happened already.
I don't know how exactly to put what I'm trying to say. I'm saying we live in a tangible reality without infinite possibilities. With science, we could crack the code of that reality because it's finite. We could create infinity.

>> No.11004924

>>11004914
>it's finite
citation needed
>creating infinity from something finite
are you retarded
>I can tell you for a fact reality ISN'T wiped
completely meaningless thing to say because it doesn't happen until it does
Infinite resets and rebirths would average out into something "tangible"
Kind of like a sin wave with an infinitesimal frequency just looking like a continuous line

>> No.11004926

>>11004924
>infinitesimal
i mean infinite

>> No.11004928

>>11004924
>it doesn't happen until it does
My point is it would have. In the vast expanse of infinite possibilities, some time parallel to ours but got its start 4 billion years ago so science powerful enough to wipe reality could be invented then implemented which would have snuffed us out, we're still here, reality can't be wiped. Fact.

>> No.11004937

>>11004928
>My point is it would have
Yes, but it also would've reformed again to counter that instantly, that's why the whole discussion is meaningless.
Also what do you think wipe means? Are you talking about becoming non-existent? Destruction isn't something becoming nothing, it's something becoming something else.

>> No.11004938

>>11004937
>Yes, but it also would've reformed again
What about the possibility of this universe never forming again? But it did? So that means that possibility of the universe never forming again is impossible.

>> No.11004947

>>11004938
You're assuming that linear, irreversible time is fundamental to everything and not just an emergent phenomenon

>> No.11004964

>>11004937
>Also what do you think wipe means? Are you talking about becoming non-existent? Destruction isn't something becoming nothing, it's something becoming something else.
Like ctrl+alt+delete on a fucking reality. Destroying whatever wall keeps it all together, I don't know use your imagination.

>>11004947
If what you're proposing is true, and the universe is abstract and reality can take many forms, then I'm saying we can quantify and disprove that with logic. If what I'm proposing is true, we live in a finite universe of flesh and stardust.
I honestly don't even believe in what I'm saying, I'm playing devil's advocate because I think it's an interesting conundrum.

>> No.11004982

>>11004964
You can quantify it yeah but not disrprove.
An unbound infinity is made up of quantifiable parts

>> No.11004984

>>11004632
>if there are infinitely many [x], doesn't that mean there are no [x]?
No

>> No.11004987

>>11004984
>if there are infinitely many [x], doesn't that mean there are no [y]?
the answer to that question would be yes
what I'm proposing is the very notion of infinite possibilities is a paradox

>> No.11004993

>>11004987
yeah a paradox that infinitely solves itself

>> No.11005001

>>11004987
But why would infinitely many possibilities imply no possibilities?