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Why is practice not considered valid for IQ Tests?
Isn't much of intelligence practiced in the first place?

>> No.10970350

IQ is pesudoscience

>> No.10970359

IQ is unironically puedoscience, the only thing it can really measure is wether someone is actually retarded, actually a genius or just a normal fag.
asking for precise measure is extremely gay.

>> No.10970360

>>10970348
Those dumb pattern tests are more gameable than tests for verbal ability, which isn’t saying much of anything at all.

>> No.10970489

>>10970350
>>10970360
explain

>>10970359
>IQ doesn't work but it mostly works
okay?

>> No.10970501

>>10970489
IQ doesn't actually measure anything it's not based on any kind of empirical measure or statistic. It's a correlative pseudoscience hoax. The best way to currently judge intelligence is by how much a person can understand abstract concepts NOT if they're good at iPad puzzle game.

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>>10970348
>another IQ thread

>> No.10971494

>>10970348
>Isn't much of intelligence practiced in the first place?
No, that would be knowledge, intelligence is inherent. Now stop making retarded IQ threads.

>> No.10971516

>>10970360

>I'm shit at verbal tests so I'll say they're meaningless

Or in other words...

>I'm autistic and don't like my self image of intelligence being shattered

>> No.10971519

>IQ is a pseudoscience even though it is currently the best predictor for academic success that exists.

Also this thread is why you don't ask this board anything. Nobody here clearly knows anything about IQ and yet everyone thinks they're an expert on it because they got average grades on a mathematics degree at a mid level University.

>> No.10971610

>>10970348
Iq thread, huh? Maybe you should watch this video and it'll give you some insight. I watched it at 2x speeds, are you that smart?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17T3fZIpT8I

>> No.10971614

>>10971519
I have a PhD in mathematics with a 4.0 GPA. My IQ is 97.

>> No.10971617

>>10971614
Either lying or high spatial/logic with incredibly low verbal

>> No.10972304

>>10971617
If we gave him the benefit of the doubt and assumed he wasn't lying through his teeth wouldn't that make IQ threads sort of redundant or no?

>> No.10972347

>>10970501
>understand abstract concepts
You mean, like...
...
...
.
.
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pattern recognition?

>> No.10972766

>>10970501
>IQ doesn't actually measure anything it's not based on any kind of empirical measure or statistic.
It does and it is, though.

>> No.10972773

>>10970348
You can practice for IQ and aptitude tests. It's been a concern in industry for 50 years

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>tfw know too much about the standard IQ test gimmicks from this board and now I can never get my IQ accurately evaluated.

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>>10970348
>Isn't much of intelligence practiced in the first place?
Consider the concept of a ceiling on ability to comprehend abstract concepts. The height of this hypothetical ceiling is based on your brain's organization at a given point in time.

>Why is practice not considered valid for IQ Tests?
Actually, practice is exactly what IQ tests measure.

They were originally designed to identify developmentally stunted individuals. That's it. The idea is that if, by a certain time, you've failed to recognize something that's obvious to others, we may infer that you are simply unable to realize it. For example, if you haven't figured out by age 10 that the square peg doesn't go in the round hole, you're probably retarded.

This thinking has limitations. If you have never practiced the thinking being tested, the test can't accurately evaluate your intelligence. Trying to draw inferences from the results of anything but the most basic tests is where the pseudoscience begins.

Without developmental time, achievement tests are meaningless. If you want to measure innate physical height, you first have to give them a chance to grow up. If you want to measure who's the fastest, you have to let them all train their speed first, or you're not even trying to measure the ceiling. But then once you involve training, you introduce a slew of confounding variables, and it's unclear which ones you should control for.

>> No.10973862

>>10970348
>Isn't much of intelligence practiced in the first place?
no

>> No.10974841

>>10972347
how is pattern recognition abstract?

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>>10970348
>Iqpepe

It's Apu fucker