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Were Neanderthals smarter than us, or was their larger brain size due to increased visual capacity?

>> No.10962995

Why would you want to take your paranoid delusions about other people suggesting you to be an inferior creature seriously and want to damage others by praying to extrateresstrials?

>> No.10963031

If neanderthals were smarter than Homo sapiens then they would have never become extinct

>> No.10963034

>>10963031
Proofs?
>If the jews were smart the Holocaust would never have happened!!!

>> No.10963039

>>10962950
Neanderthals and sapiens are both human species so the premise is flawed already.

>>10963031
Intelligence does not guarantee victory. Sapiens were more numerous, organized, and possibly more evil.

>> No.10963044

Neanderthals are still among us and being persecuted. So called "Autists" simply have more neanderthal genes being expressed.

>> No.10963066

None of you got this right.I thought all of you were so smart on 4chan........

>> No.10963067

>>10962950
I like to think they were smarter and, therefore, gave less a fuck. What do we need projectiles for? Fuck technology. And stuff like that.

>> No.10963074

>>10963067
They were much stronger and show evidence of many healed fractures, so it’d seem they simply overpowered prey in melee.

>> No.10963127

> tfw no neanderthal gf

>> No.10963312

>>10963044
this
So yes, neanderthal are smarter and based

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>> No.10963538

>>10963031
Natural selection doesn't always work that way.
Take a look at European birthrates, then take a look at the average IQ in middle eastern nations.

>> No.10963543

>>10963522
>When the larger visual systemis subtracted from total brain size, they had smaller rest of the brain
How they concluded this one? They found a neanderthal brain and who was still intact?

>> No.10963544

>>10962950
The myth that they were dumb is completely baseless. They had complex art and burial practices that weren't seen yet by Homo Sapiens

>> No.10963554

>>10963543
https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2013.0168

eye size as proxy for visual cortex using current primate models

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>>10963544
>>10963526
hello mr. berg

>> No.10963630

>>10963031
The thing is, we are not really h. Sapiens. Rather we are a hybrid between h. Sapiens and h. Neanderthalis (unless you are from south Sahara Africa). So h. Sapiens could have been smarter than Neanderthals but the present day hybrid could be smarter.

One anon posted here earlier that he had 6,5 percent Neanderthal genes and wasn't too shabby in the IQ department.

>> No.10963633

>>10963044
Source?

>> No.10963643

>>10963544
>They had complex art
nope

>> No.10963650

>>10963031
Intelligence does not equal survival, see current colonization of Europe by them brown people.

If it wasnt for sapiens niggers, Homo would be colonizing the galaxy right now.

>> No.10964590

>>10963044
No, on the contrary, autsits are those who lack neanderthal genes. https://www.quora.com/What-does-the-study-show-in-the-linkage-between-domestication-syndrome-and-autism-Is-autism-a-particular-phenotypic-trait-that-has-been-in-humans-since-they-first-evolved/answer/Pavel-Mencl-1

>> No.10965281

>>10963650
>>>/pol/

>> No.10965307

>>10964590
Stop posting

>> No.10965318

Neanderthals were smart but not creative. Just kidding, they weren't smart either but they were uncreative none the less. They had Europe for 200k years and did absolutely nothing.

>> No.10965333

>>10962950
They were strong and durable enough to just beat down prey, they did not have the same bone/muscle structure as humans so ranged weapons weren't as useful for them, they did not live in larger communities like humans(except the ones who joined humans) so the flow of knowledge was restricted

>> No.10966664

>>10965307
Why are only white people (and a fraction of Asians) neurotypical?

>> No.10967325

>>10962950
This thread is full of shitposts but I'll give a serious reply anyway.
Trying to extrapolate intelligence from neanderthal skull size is retarded. What *is* a good measure, is comparing neanderthal neuron organisation to human's. We've grown human brain organoids and neanderthal organoids and compared them. Neanderthal dendritic complexity is far inferior to that in human neurons. Physically, neanderthal organoids were smaller and shriveled compared to human organoids. All this suggest lower intelligence.

>> No.10967335

>>10966664
>Quora
Stopped reading there.

>> No.10967427

>>10962950
They probably weren't that much more intelligent or less intelligent than us but they were more isolated and less sociable while Homo Sapiens lived in bigger groups of people. Also skull or brain size has little or nothing to do with intelligence. Their brain fat allowed them to survive easier in a cold environment.

>> No.10967434

>>10962950
Neanderthals were the earliest humans, from 6000 years ago to 4500 years ago, who lived up to 969 years (Methusela).
Human skulls continuously grow thicker.
Age progress a modern person 969 years, get a "neanderthal" skull.

>> No.10967436

>>10963534
What does all of that mean?

>> No.10967442

>>10963630
Africans are definitely hybrids as well.

>> No.10967447

>>10963650
Interesting perspective

>> No.10967451

>>10962950
Nature always over-fills before finding the balance point. It's a caustic system that intelligence was designed to overcome.

>> No.10969055

>>10967434
>969 years
Bullshit, you pulled that number from the retards who counted moon cycles as years, which gives what... whoa 80-something years old.

>> No.10969082

>>10967436
It means though we mixed with them brain and testicle genes from them were weeded out quickly, and we have less of those genes from them than other ones.

>> No.10969178

>>10969055
Some of them had children when somewhere around 100 years old. The myths that people used not to age are way too common. And they don't agree why people started to age, which suggests separate origins.

>> No.10970349

>>10963643
>nope
Better than everything you ever drawn

>> No.10970447

>>10963031
wrong. intelligence is just one factor to good fitness, if neanderthals had small dick then they'd be out competed by the big dick sapiens because the N women prefer the long cock of the mighty sapiens.

>> No.10970458

>>10970447
You're the guy who got accepted to Yale astrophysics, right? Why are you people so obsessed with your dicks and impregnating foreigners?