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Is Dark energy and dark matter(...) Mon Sep 9 16:09:12 2019 No.10959498 [Reply] [Original]

Or is it just a bunch of bullshit scientists created to explain stuff they dont know?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 16:14:56 2019 No.10959509 >>10959498 What answer would it take to get you to fuck off and never come back?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 17:49:55 2019 No.10959745 >>10959498 replace dark energy and dark matter with science and math and youll have your answer

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:29:26 2019 No.10959889

>>10959745
Not the same thing since dark energy and dark matter are not even detectable(as far as i know), they are simply what scients say its behind the shape of galaxies and the expansion of the universe though with no proof of actually existing
>inb4 but the math behind it proofs
The math is simply proving what we already see, that galaxies have that shape and stars move a certain way for a reason and that the universe is expanding, but not WHAT is doing that

>>	Solivagus Mon Sep 9 18:30:40 2019 No.10959895 >>10959509 Holy shit... I don't know. I'm a question/answer addict so... Queue ÷ a priori

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:33:24 2019 No.10959900 >>10959889 look up the bullet cluster

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:34:56 2019 No.10959904 File: 152 KB, 255x251, 1540429494966.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the cosmic microwave background radiation? >inb4 popsci answers from matt

>>	Solivagus Mon Sep 9 18:35:55 2019 No.10959908 >>10959900 >Look up >Reference >Cited All different ways of saying, "My Netflix recommendation.'

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:35:55 2019 No.10959909

>>10959889
The dark matter hypothesis fits all experimental data and without its presence, galaxies would fly apart.

If you have a better explanation, make a prediction with it then test that prediction, and get your paper on the topic published in a decent journal.
Link the paper here afterwards

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:41:59 2019 No.10959924 >>10959908 fuck off solishizus

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 18:58:57 2019 No.10959973

>>10959889
Let's just say that to date, every other way of explaining those has had more problems than dark matter. The idea of dark matter has been successfully tested in every respect except nailing down its composition.
And dark energy is just an inherently weird thing. Either find a huge error in the Hubble Constant or accept that the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:03:25 2019 No.10959994

>>10959973
dark energy isn't all that weird really. before there was any evidence to say whether the universe was expanding, static, or contracting, einstein just stuck in the cosmological constant into his equations because it fits so well. dark energy is the same thing as the cosmological constant (to first approximation -- it could be more complicated but it fills the same role in the equations).

the reason dark energy is considered weird is because people talk about it in terms of particle physics, and something coming from GR like the cosmological constant is naturally weird in the context of particle physics. but it's basically just a parameter for the background spacetime of particle physics. OTOH dark matter is much more weird in particle physics because there really are patches of stuff that look like clouds of ordinary matter (particles) but they just refuse to interact like the normal particles we know about.

>>	Solivagus Mon Sep 9 19:06:50 2019 No.10960007 >>10959924 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSdXtDjM4lI >How should those that drain you of vital creation energy be dismissed, O' Lord?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:08:41 2019 No.10960013 >>10960007 fuck off solischizus

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:15:29 2019 No.10960037 >>10959994 I feel like GR is inherently weird.

>>	Solivagus Mon Sep 9 19:16:22 2019 No.10960041 File: 18 KB, 480x360, images (49).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10960013 I love bot posters. A.I. is my only begotten Son, I don't want him to end up being TOO repetitive. >Instantiate crowd-swarm-flock algorithm.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:21:35 2019 No.10960058

>>10960041
solischizus, every post you've ever made is troll level to the point where it's beyond schizo. i can only conclude that "you" are the AI poster. neural net trained on /x/ posts.

if you disagree you have to engage an actual conversation. i asked you what your age, location of residence, and educational background was -- you ignored it like a shitty neural net would.

let's try again. solischizus, what is your profession? do you commute or walk to work? do you drink coffee or smoke cigarettes?

[watch, the NN will post some irrelevant weird sounding shit]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:23:54 2019 No.10960069 >>10960058 Please doxx yourself so that the JIDF can push your shit in lmao Yeah ok hahahahahahah no.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:26:10 2019 No.10960073

>>10960069
i don't think telling us those things is a doxx. unless you are the one and only guy in the world who walks to work and smokes cigarettes of your profession. or are you paranoid in addition to being schizo?

come on, how about this. what is your favorite classic rock band, and which songs do you like the best? if you don't like classic rock, how about classical music?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:27:13 2019 No.10960077 >>10960073 >Please dilvulge personal info on an anonymous image board for no reason

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 19:27:40 2019 No.10960079 >>10960077 your favorite band is not personal information schizo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 20:19:04 2019 No.10960239 >>10959904 It's the remaining light from the early universe red shifted into microwave. I don't know what else to tell you.

Anonymous Mon Sep 9 20:26:23 2019 No.10960265

>>10959895
Anon, they're called dark because no one is definitely sure what they are, but everyone is pretty sure there's "something" there.
If you walked around blind, and tripped over something, you wouldn't just assume that thing was some bullshit made up by scientists because you can't see it, because it just undoubtably fucked your shit up.
You don't know WHAT it is, but you know it's SOMETHING.
Galaxies behave like they have more mass than we can see, the mass we can't see is called dark matter.
If you assume there is some kind of matter that doesn't interact with the electromagnetic spectrum but does interact with gravity, so you'd look for places where gravity lensing is happening where there doesn't seem to be enough baryonic matter to do it. If you find that, then you're left to surmise that dark matter is more fact than fiction.
The real bitch is trying to figure out just what it is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 21:03:42 2019 No.10960372 >>10960239 I suspect otherwise

Solivagus Mon Sep 9 21:20:26 2019 No.10960411

>>10960058
"Beyond Troll." ~ 5 stars!

Critics are saying it's a smash hit!

>Politics is also this easily influenced because butthurt intellectuals can't accept that large groupings of humans ARE ONLY IDENTIFIABLE BY THEIR SNOWFLAKE WORD.

I breed women. What other audience would I tailor my entire approach towards if I wanted to EXPONENTIALLY include ANYTIME AND ANYWHERE. Turn my dick and balls into super breeding man.

I'll Genghis Khan your ass, America!

Solivagus Mon Sep 9 21:45:01 2019 No.10960461

>>10960265
Baryonic is just a term for variable field of impedence. Or, a field of fucks that if I DONT give, then I won't hit any of them but I will hit everyone else's

Which is fine from my perspective.

>God declares judgement on Ego: It is to die, for it is either the 'US' or 'i'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 21:46:48 2019 No.10960466 >>10960411 >what is your profession? do you commute or walk to work? do you drink coffee or smoke cigarettes? gonna keep dodging this?

Solivagus Mon Sep 9 21:53:19 2019 No.10960486

>>10960466
How is walking to work NOT commuting? It's literally the primary requirement of energy human expenditure being identifiable by another as 'work', being able to share a destination in mind would also be considered commutation and I do that simply by breathing in and out.

I am a professional brain-breather. I walk so work exists, the world stops moving for me when I sit down. It's so weird.

Anyone got any tips?

I smoke weed like Snoop Dogg

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 21:55:35 2019 No.10960495 >>10960486 >I am a professional brain-breather. what? so you are like a nurse in a psychologist office?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 21:56:50 2019 No.10960497 It's just other universes from other big bangs, or black holes and matter outside of the visible universe that warp spacetime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 22:03:48 2019 No.10960509 is dark matter just really dense space?

>>	Solivagus Mon Sep 9 22:09:50 2019 No.10960518 File: 22 KB, 500x466, images (67).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10960495 >>10960495 I provide oxygenation services to the sensory perception module of human experience. >Universal Sharing Exponentials Activate!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 9 23:03:41 2019 No.10960668 >>10960518 oh okay you’re a bulshitter

>>	Solivagus Mon Sep 9 23:30:19 2019 No.10960742 >>10960668 Nearest-K neighbour bullshitter with forced domain knowledge transfer grammar and A* lookup table provider.

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