Vaping

[Anonymous No.10942012]

Will vaping kill me? What's the current science around this?

You might have seen stories coming out about this in the past week: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/9/3/20847219/vaping-health-risks-2019-lung-damage-death

Hope this shit doesn't kill me.

[Anonymous No.10942016]

>>10942012
It's actually worse for you than smoking cigarettes. Studies have been done look it up.

[Anonymous No.10942023]

>>10942012
You assumed that a formerly toxic habit would be less toxic with technology. It wasn't. False safety does kill people.

[Anonymous No.10942041]

>>10942012
>hundreds of people
Call me when it gets to .01% of smoking deaths.

[Anonymous No.10942043]

>>10942041
Do you think people smoke a pack of cigarettes and die of cancer? It AT LEAST 30 years to actually fuck your shit up. Regular vaping will probably kill people in a decade, it'll be hilarious when tens of millions of zoomers have lung cancer from vaping.

[Anonymous No.10942044]

tobacco causes cancer, but cigarettes are worse because they add hundreds of chemicals to them for god only knows why

nicotine is a neurotoxin that causes heart damage, but vaping is much worse because they add tons of unknown "propitiatory" chemicals to the vape juice and god only knows why

It's like they take a dangerous habit, and try to tell people it's safe, while at the same time making it 10,000% more dangerous than it originally was. It's almost as if they're intentionally trying to give people cancer so the medical industry can milk them of every cent they own before they die of cancer.

Why can't we have pure organic hand rolled tobacco cigarettes or properly dosed nicotine vape juice that's in 100% distilled water?
People seem to have ZERO pity for nicotine addicts and the addicts obviously don't care about themselves to cry foul about this shit.

[Anonymous No.10942045]

>>10942016
>(((((Studies)))))

[Anonymous No.10942052]

>>10942012
What are you, 12? This is big tobacco paying for a smear campaign. This is what happens when the news is for sale. You'd better get used to seeing this kind of stuff, because it's not going away.

[Anonymous No.10942058]

>>10942044
>for god only knows why
Because people who smoke cancer sticks have below 100IQ and throw the still red hot cancer stick stubs into the road or drop them on the carpet and people die. So they have to add chemicals that stop the cigs from burning when they aren't being sucked. Because those chemicals make it hard for the cigs to ignite they also have to add chemicals to make them burn easier. Then they add flavorings because the chemicals make it taste weird.

Vaping is fucking stupid, if you want nicotine use a patch or needle stop sucking a big dick shaped object you homo, vaping is for teenage girls.

[Anonymous No.10942085]

>>10942012
It's generally not a good idea to inhale anything other than oxygen.

[Anonymous No.10942092]

>>10942085
>he says while breathing in 70%+ nitrogen

[Anonymous No.10942102]

Me being somebody who smokes 3 cigarettes a year watching literally everybody lose their health due to zero willpower is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10942122]

>>10942043
>It AT LEAST 30 years to actually fuck your shit up
No. It might take a while to give you cancer, but the effects on your fitness, circulation, things like that, will come much sooner. In fact fitness is affected immediately from my experience. If you've got crap in your lungs then obviously the gas exchange won't be as effective.

[Anonymous No.10942126]

I have a sweet hobbit rig. I look like mutha fucking Gandalf vaping.

[Anonymous No.10942127]

>>10942122
Short term vaping is actually worse for your respiratory tract.

[Anonymous No.10942141]

>>10942052
>This is big tobacco paying for a smear campaign.
Firstly, all of the big tobacco companies are trying to get into vaping YOU FUCKING MORON. Philip Morris International and British American Tobacco, two of the biggest tobacco companies on the planet, both sponsored F1 teams this year specifically about their plans to go "smoke free" (that is, shift their customers onto vaping products). Vaping has grown massively with youngsters, so it makes a lot of sense for these companies to invest in it. Plus tobacco legislation is obviously going to get tighter all the time.

Also, as shitty as Vox Media is, they're not going to be paid by Big Tobacco to run stories. They're too left-wing and hipster to do that.

You are a gigantic fucking imbecile.

[Anonymous No.10942213]

>>10942044
Its called American spirits. Doesnt matter anyway. The act of using a lighter and burning is also carcinogenic. Its why using a vaporizer like volcano for burning flower is the safest because it never reaches the temperature even close to combustion

[Anonymous No.10942310]

>>10942012
Stop giving into vice you filthy degenerate

[Anonymous No.10942316]

>>10942085
>he doesn't inhale CO on the reg for them brain gains
Imagine being this dense.

[Anonymous No.10942331]

>>10942141
They are trying, but they don't want to, they would be fine if vaping didn't exist.

[Anonymous No.10942350]

All the headlines talk about death from "vaping" and that officials don't know what could possibly be the problem. While at the same time casually mentioning almost all of them were vaping THC products. It sure is a mystery what these illnesses have in common.

[Anonymous No.10942361]

>>10942012
It's vox so it's fake news. Definitely keep vaping.

[Anonymous No.10942377]

>>10942350
>vaping THC products
I thought it was CBD?

[Anonymous No.10942383]

I feel I can offer a qualified opinion.

1. the research found increased proteolysis in connection with the nicotine product consumers.

2. Further research may elucidate mechanisms of action or causal agents.

3. This much is advisable: only vape high quality product from reputable and if necessary, certified producers. (No not purchase cut-rate, cheap, "on sale", special deals, off brand, volume products, discount products. Do not buy flavored products. Do not buy products with anything added besides the solvent and the nicotine.)

4. treat your vape pen like lab equipment. Regularly clean it. Do not carry it in your pocket, in a bag, jostle the device, etc. because these things are prone to leak, they attract dirt and the surfaces are teeming with bacteria.

[Anonymous No.10942712]

One time an immigrant stoner permaNEET wanted me to try his home made vape liquid. I was distracted and did immediately.

Jesus Christ what a retard I am.

[Anonymous No.10942752]

>>10942012
yes. smoke in lungs is bad.

[Anonymous No.10942760]

>>10942752
What?!?! Marijuana won't cure all my ills?!

[Anonymous No.10942766]

>>10942760
You need to administer the smoke colonicly.

[Anonymous No.10942767]

>>10942012
PROBABLY not, but you still out yourself as a complete fucking tool if you do it.

[Anonymous No.10942792]

>>10942012
I used one of these things for a few years without an problems. I quit but only because it's an obnoxious habit and a waste of money. I think everyone should quit any unnecessary habit like this but I also think it's stupid for them to just say 'vaping'. It's too general. From the article it seems like it's probably just people being irresponsible about it.

[Anonymous No.10942805]

>>10942792
extremely low-grade post, uninformative, no humour, not even a shoe-horned meme.
please consider posting less frequently, or return to whence you came.

[Anonymous No.10942808]

>>10942805
I'm sorry I lied about my iq to get in

[Anonymous No.10943061]

>>10942012
I hope it kills you you vaping faggot

[Anonymous No.10944305]

>>10942012
there are also metals and plastic involved in vaping. its definitely not good i vaped for a while and kept waking up during night unable to breathe and promptly stopped
>>10942044
>god only knows why
because cigarettes are tasty and enjoyable but it causes DNA damage which has long lasting implications for future humans, most people used to smoke and its still high numbers.
so instead just make it disgusting.
also the larp of >them< trying to kill you, instead "escape"...
even over the short time of my smoking career i noticed changes and it getting worse and more disgusting and chemical tings...
>>10942213
pic related. safe lighter.

[Anonymous No.10944349]

>>10944305
And the reason they wont ban them is because we all know how prohibition goes

[Anonymous No.10944354]

>>10944305
And the reason they wont ban them is because we all know how prohibition goes. Also tell someone not to and they will lol. If you're not gonna have children it doesn't really matter beyond your personal choices

[Anonymous No.10944359]

The only thing that belongs in your lungs is air.

[Anonymous No.10944378]

>>10944359
And braps (male)

[Anonymous No.10944384]

Last week is when I quit vaping due to understanding that health affects are being understated at the moment. Pic related helps me stay away from vaping.

[Anonymous No.10944396]

>>10942377
From what I've read it's illegal THC carts like dank vapes, which are laced with, among other things, thickening agents not designed to be heated, let alone vaped.

>>10942044
Public health England says vaping is 95% safer than smoking cigarettes. Smoke itself is a carcinogen, and smoking deposits tar in lungs. Vaping does not do this.
Vaping with distilled water is not a great idea. Not only is it unpleasant, the solvents that make up 99% of the volume of vape juices are just propolyne glycol and vegetable glycerin. The same substances found in many medicines and other things like shisha that people have been smoking for years.
It seems like the chemicals that have the worst potential for harm in vape juice are the flavorings. These are unregulated, and I havn't seen any studies showing which are healthy or not. Diacetyl, which causes popcorn lung, was common in vape juice flavors, especially popcorn flavors, before it gave people popcorn lung. More testing needs to be done on these, so I'd recommend vaping unflavored or lightly flavored juice to reduce harm. A potential problem with juul and other closed pod systems is that their liquids are flavored much more heavily than other brands.

[Anonymous No.10944408]

>>10944384
>war on smoking
>poisoned in 39031137519992097 other ways
is it about freeedom?

[Anonymous No.10944419]

>>10944396
what you're not stating though is when you vape you inhale heavy metals, one in particular is LEAD. Sure, it's a small amount, but inhaling a small amount of metal particles over the years isn't going to turn out well. The metals come from the heating the metal coils, so there isn't much way around breathing in metals. sorry for ruining vaping for you bud, but I quit also recently due to understanding breathing in heavy metals is bad.

[Anonymous No.10944424]

>>10942052
Tobacco is a dying industry due to negative image it has been painted for decades now. All the tobacco company are banking on weed/ecigs being legal as they can then flood the market which doesn't have any regulations with their brand of shits.
You don't believe me right? Marlboro invested $12.8 Billion in Juul for 35% ownership.
>https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/dec/20/juul-e-cigarette-marlboro-company-buys-stak
They also invested few billions into Marijuana market as well.
>https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/investing/altria-cronos-investment-marijuana/index.html
Imperial cigs has invested $120 million into Marijuana as well. They've also invested $7 billion dollars into buying ecig company BLU.

And that's not all, theres tons of evidence of tobacco industry moving into marijuana/ecig/vaping industry.

Its just hilarious to see addicts try to use the argument that "tobacco companies are trying to kill ecigs" reasoning when the whole thing is pushed by the tobacco companies.

[Anonymous No.10944429]

>>10944396
>illegal THC carts
>laced with, among other things, thickening agents not designed to be heated
When they get caught I hope they add endangering public health, or something to that effect, to the list of charges

[Anonymous No.10944438]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP7kXJnX9z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_Ou2gooyB0

Surgeon General issued warning against ecigs and marijuana being dangerous. Yet, the addicts will say "You can't get addicted to Marijuana" or "ITS ALL NATURAL BRO. ITS HEALTHY FOR YOU" or "E-CIGS are SAFE. LOOK OVER THERE!!! ALCOHOL!!!! CIGARETTES!!!"

All sorts of non-sense that would not fly in any other scientific discipline, yet the mental gymnastics these druggies do to rationalize their habits is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.10944461]

>>10944438
good links anon

[Anonymous No.10946100]

>>10942044
>distilled water
You have no idea what you are talking about

[Anonymous No.10946101]

>>10942012
>vaping
You brought this on yourself.

[Anonymous No.10946103]

>>10942012
>vox.com

[Anonymous No.10946107]

>>10942141
You sound angry and schizo. I suggest you work on your issues.

[Anonymous No.10946132]

>>10942383
That does make sense. I used to vape until I ran out of juice and it's nowhere to be found in this town, but I did notice something was strange when doing it too often.
Nicotine is neurotoxic after all and after a while you will feel like a brainlet.

Also it does something to the lungs, I'm not sure what but it's like ... like the smoke from cigarettes but without the smoke. Difficult to describe, but like there is some water buildup or something in the lungs.

Thanks for your opinion.

[Anonymous No.10946171]

>>10946132
Nicotine is not neurotoxic. Post a study, nicotine as a chemical is non carcinogenic and not a neurotoxin.

[Anonymous No.10946344]

>>10946107
No, what I said is the truth. You obviously meant to reply to this guy: >>10942052

[Anonymous No.10946348]

>>10946171
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12850578
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4553893/

lmao, dumb addicts. Get cancer and die.

[Anonymous No.10947032]

>>10946171
I quit vaping and slept a lot recently. My brain is definitely functioning better than when I was vaping two weeks ago. I'm under the impression having nicotine in your system reduces sleep quality.

[Anonymous No.10947041]

>>10942012
Yo what about vaping weed? I'm guessing equally fucked.

[Anonymous No.10947061]

>>10942012
Surprise surprise, inhaling vaporized oil with unknown chemicals dissolved in them for flavors isn't healthy for you.

[Anonymous No.10947062]

>>10946171
Seeing that nicotine is proven to make babies retarded when mothers use it...

[Anonymous No.10947063]

>>10947041
>about vaping weed? I'm guessing equally fucke
My opinion: I use to smoke weed a lot for about a year. I haven't smoked in over 2 years and can function significantly better. I'm under the impression using weed a several times for novelty is more likely beneficial to just understand the experience, but prolonged use of marijuana definitely is a performance reducer. people that smoke weed habitually are aloft and appear to be groggy if not high, and while high, unable to do anything rationale.

[Anonymous No.10947077]

>>10947061
>Surprise surprise
it actually is unironically a surprise to me. the boomer generation smoked for the nicotine but died from the tar and carcinogens in combustible smoke. Vaping looked like a promising opportunity to use nicotine responsibly, but with more health data of users coming out, it appears that vaping with a proper mod, and reputable vape juice company isn't responsible, unless for the sole purpose of quitting traditional cigarettes.

[Anonymous No.10947092]

This is just a hit piece by the (((tobacco industry))). Nicotine improves cognitive function. (((They))) try to counter this by coating cigs in tons of cancerous chemicals. But people got wise and started vaping. Now they are poisoning the vape juice.

[Anonymous No.10947093]

>>10947077
You can chew gum gor nicotine or wear a patch. The reason people prefer to smoke/vape is for the experience of blowing clouds of smoke out. I was a smoker too and the habit itself is more addictive than the nicotine.

[Anonymous No.10947097]

How does research progress usually go on cases like this? How long do you expect it to be before doctors can identify a particular cause?

[Anonymous No.10947104]

>>10944378
Based

[Anonymous No.10947106]

>>10944419
lol just keep the juice inside a glass jar while it's being heated indirectly (vape design)

[Anonymous No.10947148]

>>10947092
>This is just a hit piece by the (((tobacco industry))).
the tobacco industry owns 35% of juul. the tobacco industry wants vaping for the zoomer generation as zoomer's are extremely unlikely to use traditional cigarettes.

>Nicotine improves cognitive function
more data does not support this. nicotine is only to show to help the cognitive performance of those already dependent upon nicotine.

join me on my embark of quitting vaping anon <3

[Anonymous No.10947200]

>>10942752
>vape
>smoke

[Anonymous No.10947207]

>>10942044
>tobacco causes cancer,

[Anonymous No.10947209]

>>10947148
>more data does not support this. nicotine is only to show to help the cognitive performance of those already dependent upon nicotine.
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.10947219]

The tobacco industry is a bunch of brinksmen. If vapes aren't particularly unhealthy, big tobacc will add a bunch of profiteering additives until the youtube equivalent of the Marlboro man if passing out on his hoverboard.

[Anonymous No.10947257]

>>10942012
>Will vaping kill me?
maybe. People say cigarettes are bad yet the oldest living woman smokes cigarettes daily since she was 14

Luck of the draw in both product and genetics i suppose

[Anonymous No.10947326]

>>10947209
read the first bullet.
>"nicotine boosted iq scores in a small sample of smokers"
keywords to read over are "small sample" so this is a small study and also nicotine boosted performance in smokers. nicotine will not make you do better at life, it's an illusion anon.

[Anonymous No.10947331]

>>10947326
Read the subsequent studies. They refute your point. There is still marginal benefit even after tolerance is incurred.

[Anonymous No.10947343]

>>10947331
>They refute your point.
no, YOU are refuting my point. There is more harm than benefit to nicotine especially after tolerance is incurred.

[Anonymous No.10947348]

>>10946107
It's fucking intentional, pic is related anon, when doesn't point-out the picture you know it's related.

[Anonymous No.10947390]

>>10944429
Pic related, another thickening compound added. Most of these fake carts are in illegal states so that's all people can get. The legal ones in California don't have this issue. A prime example why legalization is beneficial.

>>10944419
I hadn't considered that. Good point.

[Anonymous No.10948856]

I don't see any scenario where inhaling smoke or vapours could be entirely healthy

[Anonymous No.10948944]

>>10948856

[Anonymous No.10949037]

>>10948856
essential oils

[Anonymous No.10949059]

>>10942012
>Hope this shit doesn't kill me.
Then maybe stop?

[Anonymous No.10950598]

>>10942012
> inhale a bunch of junk into your lungs
> wtf why are my lungs broke?

[Anonymous No.10950605]

>>10949037
>essential oils

Right, just because its an oil and its "essential" means that it is safe for you to vaporize and breathe in?

I don't understand this line of thinking. Just because something is fine on your skin, or in your stomach doesn't mean its fine if you cram it into other places in your body.

[Anonymous No.10950669]

>>10944438

"Yes, this stuff is bad, instead, why don't I give you a prescription of..."

[Anonymous No.10950679]

These things started happening suddenly. Probably has to do with Chinese THC carts that no one knows what's on those things.

[Anonymous No.10950742]

>>10949037
The oils in the vape are explicitly what's causing the harm, they build up in the lungs and reduce oxygen transfer efficiency, and break down into fats and other shit that cause tissue irritation and immune response.