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How do you scientists explain the extremely random, arbitrary, and trivial nature of your discoveries? So, the idea now is that the whole universe is made of repetitive objects that tend to all have identical energies, with vary little variance? Like there is only a few types of particles and the differences are very limited between them, sometimes the only difference is higher energy...

Science usually starts with everybody thinking there is no more ground to dig but then they make crazy discoveries out of no where.

>> No.10940204

>>10940203
Thanks for the timestamp 4.
Thanks for the 203.

>> No.10940205

>>10940204
Thanks for the timestamp 4.
Thanks for the 4.

>> No.10940207

>>10940205
Thanks for the timestamp 4.

>> No.10940221
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10940221

Yeah, what would a genius like Witten be able to do to the standard model if all the scientists hadn't agreed to stop digging.

>> No.10940223

>>10940221
Explain this

>> No.10940254

>>10940223
it's his "higgs has spin 1" crap, since he doesn't understand how that would turn off the higgs mechanism and make all particles massless

>> No.10940257

>>10940221
Shut up Tooker

>> No.10940260

But what do you all think of the odd nature of these discoveries? It is very complicated stuff, but it makes it look like the whole world is made from a small number of particles with very complex interactions.

>> No.10940261

>>10940260
*small number of distinct types of particles

>> No.10940268

>>10940260
>>10940261
how is this odd? back in ancient greek times they thought there were only 4 elements. now we have basically 16 fundamental particles (depending on how you count it could be more, if you count the SM degrees of freedom it's more like 125 or so). so we've at least ended up with more than the greeks...

seems perfectly sensible to me. like, Newton said "gravity on earth, you know apples and shit, is the same as why the moon goes around the earth" and it's a similar thing to say "hey, the shit that makes up rocks is the same stuff that makes up electricity and stars and light", and it just werks

>> No.10940269

>>10940260
>whole world is made from a small number of particles with very complex interactions.
That's what the world is.
It's about the patterns, not the things making the patterns.

>> No.10940309

>>10940268
>>10940269
but what do you make of that

>> No.10940402

>I don't understand it, ergo it doesn't make sense, therefore I don't believe it's true
Legit curious, do you keep he helmet on while you sleep, or does your tard wrangler tuck you in enough that you don't need it?

>> No.10940484

>>10940203
Taking over you thread, can someone explain particle spins to me, or rather does anyone have a good visualization of it, I know the card one, but I want a better one

>> No.10940492

>>10940484
look up the stern-gerlach experiment

>> No.10940498

>>10940203
>How do you scientists explain the extremely random, arbitrary, and trivial nature of your discoveries?

Anthropic principle. Cosmic inflation leading to a multiverse. Most physical constants seem arbitrary because they ARE arbitrary. There are counless other spacetime bubbles with varied physical constants. We happen to live in one of them compatible with intelligent life.

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10940505

>>10940203
make room for the chad model

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10940508

>>10940484
I like this image - sorry for shitty quality. Only one component of angular momentum along one axis can be definitely known. This image shows both the +1/2 and -1/2 cases along the z axis. The total angular momentum could be anywhere along the brown circle, but this is indefinite. The red arrows show an example of what the angular momentum of a classical body could be in order to have the +1/2 or -1/2 z-component.

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>>10940508
Found this

>> No.10940512

>>10940509
Thanks. I'll post the video this is from. It's an excellent youtube series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-_4zOYTIVU

>> No.10941354

>>10940402
shut up idiot

>> No.10941356

>>10941354
Thanks for the timestamp 4.
Thanks for the 4.
;)