/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10928013]

>/sci/ will sperg out over this

[Anonymous No.10928019]

>>10928013
Actually I unironically respect Philosophy and the humanities in general.

It's an easy ride for undergrad if you just want a piece of paper with your name on it, but if you sincerely study it, it can be quite enriching.

[Anonymous No.10928048]

>>10928019
>reddit spacing
>reddit tier post quality

[Anonymous No.10928156]

>>10928048
>Believing in reddit spacing

[Anonymous No.10928183]

Powerful images.

[Anonymous No.10928231]

>>10928183
Hey, what's wrong with Kurt Vonnegut? His books are a good laugh.

[Anonymous No.10928239]

>>10928183
I know literally everyone there.

[Anonymous No.10928492]

>>10928183

[Anonymous No.10928812]

>>10928048
everyone is laughing at you, brainlet

[Anonymous No.10928827]

>>10928013
I love how desperate IFUCKINGLOVESCIENCE faggots have to rationalize this picture to prevent their brains from melting.

[Anonymous No.10929257]

>>10928048
A positivist atheist virgin MIT physics professor and Dr Who fan was teaching a class on Newton, known autist

"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship science, and accept that it's the only way, and any other thing is superstition!"

At this moment, a brave, intelligent, continental philosopher, who has written 1500 essays on topics such as free will, and understood the necessity of ontology and fully supported all ways of knowing stood up and held a rock.

"What IS this rock?"

The arrogant professor smirked quite geekishly and smugly replied "A mixture of quartz and other minerals you low IQ jock"

"Fool, for you have taken the identity of this object as a mere composition of it's part, but you failed to define an essence. If everything were just atoms... then you yourself would be indistinguishable from a rock"

The professor was visibly shaken and dropped his chalk and a copy of A Brief History of Time. He stormed out of the room crying those asthma induced crocodile tears. The same tears scientists cry for the "scientifically illiterate" (who today live much worse lives thanks to technology and science) when they jealously try to claw profound epistemological models from true thinkers. There is no doubt that at this point our professor, Sheldor Leonard, wished he had pulled himself up by his bootstraps and become more than a mere lab monkey. He wished that he could defend himself in writing, but he himself had petitioned against "useless" rethoric classes!

The students applauded and all debated the nature of being that day and accepted the duality of their minds. An eagle named "Will to Power" flew in into the room and looked deeply into the void. The original formulation of the categorical imperative was read several times, and Nietzsche himself showed up and called science gay.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died after doing genetic testing on himself and not reviewing the ethical concerns.

[Anonymous No.10929261]

>>10929257
you somehow recovered strongly at the end, 7/10

[Anonymous No.10929278]

>>10929257
xD lol good one

[Anonymous No.10929286]

>>10928013
Philosophy is like everything else: in the hands of someone incompetent, it's completely useless.

[Anonymous No.10929288]

>>10928183
>mommi Lindsay Ellis not on image

i knew she were the real deal!

[Anonymous No.10929311]

>>10928013
all fools besides Albert "God Does not Play Dice" Einstein

Can't spell copenhagen without COPE

[Anonymous No.10929340]

Philosophy as a subject is worth reading into, however as a degree it's basically useless as it has been watered down by normies who just want a bachelors for the sake of it, or for the "uni experience"
Most arts/humanities have been hit hard in terms of credibility by this degree inflation. As an undergrad subject, science is generally harder to dumb down or just coast through if you're a low IQ normie. Meanwhile humanities have been overrun by post modernists who just teach normies to parrot their own bullshit ideas.

[Anonymous No.10929377]

>>10928013
Are all the quotes on the right supposed to be "anti-philosophy" or what? I don't see the Richard Dawkins or Bill Nye quotes that way.

[Anonymous No.10929415]

>>10929311
kek

[Anonymous No.10929423]

>>10928183
woah, thanks anon. I almost changed my worldview to that of Ethan from h3h3. He just looks like such an intellectual!

[Anonymous No.10929463]

>>10929377
It's idealism vs materialism, as well as accepting the philosophical underpinning of science/the scientific method as being something you need to understand.
Heisenberg, Planck, Bohr and Schrodinger were not physicalists. They thought that consciousness was fundamental. Von Neumann pointed out the paradox of those trying to make quantum equations compatible with physicalism and laid out a mathematical model for consciousness as fundamental.
So unlike the false picture of "materialists advancing science at the expense of unscientific idealists", it has always been the other way around. Idealists advance science, either due to being less bound to dogma or simply that idealists are more intelligent, and physicalists run behind them trying to shoehorn the corpse of materialism back into the game, always fruitless.
Idealism is true, materialism is false. That's basically the gist of it.

[Anonymous No.10929471]

i love how this thread doesn’t even have one person sperging out against jesusfags and instead it became a jesusfag circlejerk

[Anonymous No.10929475]

>>10929471
Who mentioned anything about jesus?
This is the problem with morons like you. Idealism has nothing to do with any religion let alone christianity, where are you getting this from?
Why are you so stupid? (genuinely asking)

[Anonymous No.10929481]

>>10929475
so what, you guys are newagers? muslims? shilling in favor of mystical shit without revealing which team you’re on is pretty disingenuous

[Anonymous No.10929500]

>>10929481
Idealism has nothing to do with any of that either.
This is what Einstein meant when he said people need to be educated before they speak. Do you even know what idealism is?

[Anonymous No.10929513]

>>10929500
>dodges question by employing logical fallacy
just impossible with you people

[Anonymous No.10929522]

Hello, is this the daily pseud containment thread?

[Anonymous No.10929531]

>>10929513
Im not dodging the question. I'm neither a muslim or a new ager.
It's impossible with you idiots. Are you genuinely incapable of understanding these things?
>>10929522
The only pseuds at this point are people who still cling to materialism.

[Anonymous No.10929546]

>>10929531
>The only pseuds at this point are people who still cling to materialism.
Oh, so it is, then.

[Anonymous No.10929552]

>>10929546
Choosing to write a field of thought off completely without engaging with it because you think you know better sounds pseud to me

[Anonymous No.10929553]

>>10929546
I'm sorry you only have a 115 IQ anon
Anyway, respond to >>10929463 without making the pseudo counter of attempting to claim it's a fallacy or some shit.

[Anonymous No.10929563]

>>10929553
because he refuses to admit which religion he’s shilling for. so far it’s not jesus nor mohammad nor newage shit. jew then?

[Anonymous No.10929568]

>>10929552
I don't come here to engage with pseuds though. I'm sure you can find a suitable conversation partner on reddit.

>>10929553
There's nothing to refute because it's full of vague bullshit. Show me the equations or gtfo.

[Anonymous No.10929575]

>>10929563
None, it's the philosophy of idealism which has nothing to do with any religion or new age bullshit.
>>10929568
Ok, yea, you aren't nearly as smart as you think you are. You are in fact pretty stupid. I'm sorry for your disability.

[Anonymous No.10929581]

>>10929575
>You are in fact pretty stupid.
Bold of you to say that considering you haven't even read an intro qm text

[Anonymous No.10929583]

>>10929581
you are making shit up now and have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.10929586]

>>10929575
>None, it's the philosophy of idealism which has nothing to do with any religion or new age bullshit.
oh okay so you win the pro god side of the argument by admitting you aren’t arguing in favor of god, just philosophy nonsense? ok fine, as long as you claim it’s all word games and has no real effect on facts

[Anonymous No.10929628]

>>10929581
t.undergrad

>>10928048
"reddit spacing" predates reddit faggot

>>10928013
I'm pretty sure most of /sci/ apart from the /pol/tards agrees with you though.

[Anonymous No.10929656]

>>10929628
I take it you haven't read a qm textbook either

[Anonymous No.10929662]

Who /christianhermeticist/ here?

[Anonymous No.10929670]

>>10929471
>>10929481
>>10929563
>>10929586
Why are redditors always seething so hard?

[Anonymous No.10929671]

>>10929481
>without revealing which team you’re on

[Anonymous No.10929682]

>>10929340
philosophy graduates literally have the highest mean IQ at 131. out of all the arguments you could have used, why did you pick IQ lol

[Anonymous No.10929773]

>>10929257
topkek

[Anonymous No.10929814]

>>10928183
whats wrong with degrasse tyson?

[Anonymous No.10929816]

>>10929814
That a joke?

[Anonymous No.10929828]

>>10929682
Wrong, Math and Physics majors have higher iqs.

[Anonymous No.10929855]

>>10929257
>actually being this idealist

[Anonymous No.10929859]

>>10928183
lmao why are there two sam hydes in this picture

[Anonymous No.10929875]

>>10929828
Not the same guy, but he's talking about the mean, not average IQ. Maybe the average IQs of physicists and mathematicians are higher than that of philosophers, but their medians are lower.

[Anonymous No.10929879]

>>10928013

[Anonymous No.10929880]

>>10928013
I can feel my blood pressure rising. Science is a subset of Philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10929894]

>>10929257
>that ending

[Anonymous No.10929910]

>>10929581
LMFAOO get fucked faggot. Just because you read griffiths doesn’t mean the people who made QM were materialists (they weren’t). Retard

[Anonymous No.10929919]

>>10929257
I'm so happy this meme has survived through the years

[Anonymous No.10930430]

>>10928183
why does it have so many musicians and random youtubers, particularly in the bottom third? I feel like the original intention of that compilation was different than with the text

[Anonymous No.10930514]

Test

[Anonymous No.10930517]

>>10928013
We've seen it a million times, and no one here unironically likes the people on the right.
Take your bait to reddit and never come back.

[Anonymous No.10930522]

>>10928048
>>10929670
Holy shit you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.10930530]

>>10928013
This is an appeal to authority type persuasive argument in favor of ideals held by those credible persons on the left. Free will fags WILL respond to this.

[Anonymous No.10930581]

>>10928183
How is Beckett a pseudointellectual?
He is not an essayist, and if anything, what he precisely tried to do is to devoid his work of any floritures.

[Anonymous No.10931244]

>>10929463
materialists btfo

[Anonymous No.10931257]

>>10931244
more like philosotard couldn't handle the god argument so he retreated into word game philosophy argumentation.

either god exists or he (she? oh wait no, i read you guys and god is male in all religions) doesn't. philosofag anon tried to argue in favor of "i believe in mystical shit..... but only when it is completely disjoint from reality" as demonstrated here:
>>10929586
and he had no comeback

[Anonymous No.10931262]

>>10929257
>Nietzsche himself showed up and called science gay.

Really made the post worth it.

[Anonymous No.10931289]

>>10931257
Holy shit you're really dumb. I read your argument with the other guy and you don't even understand what Idealism is. It has nothing to do with god or religion, it basically just is the position that the material reality isn't the most fundamental part of existence. That there is some other part that is more fundamental, whether it be a God or a plane of ideals or just a set of eternal nonphysical laws, that exists as a foundation to the material.
You have no idea what you're talking about and the whole argumetn with that guy was you getting mad and making ad hominems that don't even work.

[Anonymous No.10931297]

>>10931289
ohhhhhh okay, facts BTFO. "God or a plane of ideals or just a set of eternal nonphysical laws" BTFO empirically confirmed facts, based on "muh idealism"

anon, i know that 4chan attracts 2D waifu and furry and MyLittlePony and anime and "muh ethnostate polo shirt wearers" idiots, but reality doesn't actually care about memes

[Anonymous No.10931303]

>>10931297
Idealism says nothing about empiricism, idealism and empiricism aren't dichotomous. Anon, do you have ANY idea of what these ideas are or what you're talking about at all, are you trolling, or are you truly genuinely uneducated?
What does Empiricism have to do with idealism or what the image in the OP is talking about? All of the great scientists on the left are both idealists as well as accepting empiricist epistemology. You are very strongly showing that you do not know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.10931314]

>>10931303
>resorts back to logical fallacies
the thread was about god. the OP image is about god. that's the topic, not philosophy word games. back to this post:
>>10929586

[Anonymous No.10931316]

>>10928013
Huh? Walter never got a nobel prize, that was the point of the whole show.

[Anonymous No.10931658]

>>10931303
I love to see when butthurt faggots lose to me in an argument, they actually go and do their homework, only to come back, repost their same bullshit, and get BTFO by another anon who isn't me. lmao

[Anonymous No.10932432]

>>10928183
>cutting off Nietzsche at the bottom
>Soros
>Maddox
>Styx

WHY DOES THIS KIND OF HUMOUR ONLY EXIST ON 4CHAN?

[Anonymous No.10932618]

>>10929257
the arrogant philosopher is doing a trick question to the unsuspecting scientist who is not wrong

as if all you need is a single definition/theory to understand an idea

Gödel already debunks this shit decades ago

[Anonymous No.10932782]

>>10929910
>this famous scientist agreed with me on some irrelevant religious nonsense
Funny how philosophy majors are so lacking in awareness of their own fallacious reasoning. Obsession with the esoteric opinions of personalities is an unfortunate learned behavior you will eventually grow out of.

[Anonymous No.10933530]

>>10929257
This is some seriously big brain posting

[Anonymous No.10933545]

>>10928013
I don't hate philosophy as a field, but I hate it as a degree

[Anonymous No.10933656]

>>10928183
>cheech and chong
>pat bateman

what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10933668]

>>10929859
Hydes is a double nigger

[Anonymous No.10933700]

>>10928013
Philosophy is in effect reinvention of thoughts. It's no wonder all we are still burning oil to get somewhere. Too many phoney scientists making claims instead of discovering fscts.

[Anonymous No.10933862]

>>10929586
> Word games

Empiricists get out

[Anonymous No.10933901]

>>10933862
double check which board you’re on