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10917974 No.10917974 [Reply] [Original]

why don't we instead sent a nuke to deimos?
we barely have enough nuclear power to actually pull this off, we let a domino effect take place.
through advanced physics and trigonometry we calculate on how to veer off the small martian moon torwards phobos.
we detonate the super nuke and push deimos torwards phobos and let the 2 moons fall down torwards mars, the 2 moons together have enough power to equal the force that destroyed the dinosaurs and that put an end to a era.
mars will literally have its own new red spot and have a smouldering crater deeper than the mariana trench alongside unleashing the worst dust storm in the solar system, super heated dust that will melt the poles safely and make mars have a thicker atmosphere.
after its over which the worst will past after 4 years, we go and colonize there with better odds at inhabiting the martian world.
as a bonus we have free iron.

>> No.10918085

>>10917974
try looking up how powerful a nuke is. a nuke can barely destroy a single city. if you nuked a city block in new york, 10 streets down would be fine. how would a nuke terraform an entire planet?

>> No.10919093

>>10918085
Big stick make big fiya
Bigga stick make bigga fiya

>> No.10921233

Bump

>> No.10921236

mars still wouldn't be habitable because not enough radioactive isotopes in its core

>> No.10921240

>>10917974
Except we wont do this because Elon the retard is gonna send people there to live in shitty hab-domes first, and this would kill them.

>> No.10921241

>>10921236
you are right, can we still visit or somehow convince people to transform mars into a giant minery?

>> No.10921249

>>10921240
wait...you mean he won't make things easier for the people going there?
because if I was elon, I would have already get ready the nukes for the fall of the martians moons and create the kratos valley(the crater).
deeper than the marianas trench and in the bottom we have a precious giant metal core remains from where to build our mining factories or some shit like that.
it will be perfect and cheap, alongside making myself richer for obtaining an actual solution to a problem.

>> No.10921313

>>10918085
>a nuke can barely destroy a single city.
That was a nuke from ww2 era.
Current biggest nukes can vaporize whole islands.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

>> No.10921318

>>10921313
deimos has 483km2 and a diameter of 12.6km(7.8m)
can we move it with a nuke?

>> No.10921397

>>10921318
Maybe. But it would be a really retarded way of doing so.

>> No.10921404

>>10921236
Enough nukes will fix this.

>> No.10921426

Rather than a nuke

nuclear thrusters, slowly perturbing the orbit at the right moments.

>> No.10922077

Or mine all the metals from the moons and build mirrors in orbit. You can calculate how much time does it take for the mirrors to reflect more energy than all of Earths arsenal.

>> No.10922535

>>10921397
its the cheapest and most optimal way of doing so.
like billiards but on a planetary scale.
>>10921426
maybe but it will be really expensive to do so and those thruster will be lost in the explosion after it crashes on mars alongside the other moons.

>> No.10922541

>>10922077
what I am afraid is the very composition of mars moon if we go that route.
there is a chance that the moons may not have enough to pull it off.
it could work but I am afraid that it won't last long enough.
besides it will be far too expensive and complicated, but possible, the main problem here is stingy rich faggots who won't give shit to build the giant mirrors.
but they have more than enough money to give if it means launching deimos torwards mars and take with it phobos.

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10922697

>>10919093
I see you iz a warboi of kultcha as well.

>> No.10923458

Space Elevator On Olympus Mons Now

>> No.10923470

Is it even possible for humans to live on mars?

>> No.10923491

>>10923470
nope.
radiation is too strong.
we'll need to dig many kilometers below the surface in order to actually live and the gravity will still cuck us hard.

>> No.10923506

>>10923491
then why go there?

>> No.10923527

>>10923506
Because it is there.

>> No.10923637

>>10923506
because sometimes, retards have to learn the hardway...you see, this is humanity biggest defect, we sometimes fall for the same shit even when we already knew how to avoid it.
is that stupidity who get us killed usually.

>> No.10924142

>>10921313
oh wow, a whole island. theres an island near me thats like 10 feet by 20 feet. nukes are way smaller than i thought. (islands isnt a unit of measurement is my point, since you are too retarded to understand my sarcasm)

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10924171

our strongest nuke is about 100 megatons of energy right?
then if deimos is 7.8m in diameter and 483km2 we should be capable of pushing the moon in a collision course
though just barely and if we put it at the correct distance

>> No.10924277

Martian moons, how small they maybe, still provide stability to Mars' rotational axis. Eliminating them and crashing them into Mars. would destabilize the planet and make it potentially impossible to terraform due to seasonal variations.

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10924528

>>10924277
>Martian moons, how small they maybe, still provide stability to Mars' rotational axis.
>Eliminating them and crashing them into Mars. would destabilize the planet and make it potentially impossible to terraform due to seasonal variations.
...are you sure about that?
because I don't see how the fuck something like that could affect the martian world.
just lool at them and tell me they do shit.
if it was ceres orbiting mars then you'll be 100% right.

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10924895

>>10923506
humanity need hope for space exploration i guess? i can't find another reason, seem like a waste of time and money right now or in 20 years , we should fix this shithole first then build an outpost on the Moon. make better ships, nuclear Fusion, make artificial gravity in a space ships, without it we can't travel long distances, for example only 6 months in space without gravity and your body is fucked

>> No.10925187

>>10924895
maybe if we get to mars, people will have their mind open of the idea of space?

>> No.10925197

>>10924895
>only 6 months in space without gravity and your body is fucked

Not really true anymore.

https://d2r55xnwy6nx47.cloudfront.net/uploads/2017/11/EdWitten_2880x1780_03.jpg

>> No.10925198

>>10925197
https://spacenews.com/resistive-targeted-exercise-reversed-astronauts-bone-loss-study-finds/

>> No.10925203

>>10925197
>>10925198
I wonder if at some point the goverment will actually pull something out of halo and coat the bones of astronauts with a biometal or something like that so that they don't have to worry about bone-degeneration.
it seems logical to me.

>> No.10925242

>>10917974
Why can't we just send a nuke to Saudi Arabia instead?

>> No.10925262

>>10917974
There's no point in any of this silliness because terraforming Mars is impossible with current technology:
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/goddard/2018/mars-terraforming

>> No.10925984

>>10925262
will it at least make the atmosphere thicker? or be easier to extract the precious metal from the moons?

>> No.10926044

>>10918085
>if you nuked a city block in new york, 10 streets down would be fine.
You know this isn't true. A modern nuke certainly has more destructive power than a fucking grenade or whatever you were thinking of. A single nuke would erase the entirety of Manhattan.

>> No.10926053

>>10922535
>maybe but it will be really expensive to do so and those thruster will be lost in the explosion after it crashes on mars alongside the other moons.
Yeah, unlike the nuke option, which will leave it perfectly intact and ready to be used again, right?

>> No.10926075

We have literal thousands of nukes just wasting away, enough to destroy every city in the world many times over

>> No.10926104

what if elon nuke his own butthole instead, that would be funny and weird.

>> No.10926125

>>10926053
dude, the nuke is a damn bomb.
if a nuke can't explode then what was the damn point of building the device?.
the nuclear thruster will only be used if we intend to use the 100% of deimos and phobos.
I highly doubt those greedy bastards will ever approve of a mission to transform and carve both moons into fucking space stations.
its cheaper to simply explode a 100mt nuke on deimos and let the destructive domino effect take place.

>> No.10926143

WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL UP? IT WOULD TAKE BILLIONS OF NUKES TO CHANGE THE ORBIT OF A FUCKING MOON ON ANY APPRECIABLE TIMESCALE. IT ISN'T POSSIBLE OR ECONOMICAL.

YOU'RE AN IDIOT AND YOUR ATTEMPT AT MATHS IS CRINGEWORTHY. YOU COME ACROSS LIKE SOME ARSEHOLE WHO THINKS HE IS THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD FOR CONSIDERING "NOVEL" IDEAS THAT EVERYONE ELSE REALISED WERE BULLSHIT FROM THE OUTSET.

STOP SHITTING UP SPACE THREADS WITH THIS.

>> No.10926148

I still don't know why people praise musk, he is just another billionaire monkey.

>> No.10927905

>>10926143
currently we have just barely enough power to actually pull this off
deimos have just the right conditions to actually be sent off with a group of tsar bombs
also the ones that always ruin space threads are usually guys like you and mathfags with their fragile ego

>> No.10927907

>>10926104
Elon should def nuke his bhole

>> No.10928529

>>10921313
Mass of deimos: 1.5*10^15kg
Energy of tsar bomba: 210*10^15 J
Let's assume you could use half of its energy to reduce the velocity of deimos.
v=sqrt(2E/m)
sqrt(210*10^15/1.48*10^15)=11.9

So with the energy of one (1) tsar bomb you could slow down deimos by 11.9 m/s

>> No.10929569

>>10928529
the strongest bomb have 100megatons.
does that have enough power to veer off deimos from its orbit?

>> No.10929648

>>10926044
Modern nukes can have plenty of destructive power due to efficient design, but the current paradigm is lower yield precision nukes, especially on ICBMs. Big nukes are wasteful, and most of the energy doesn't go into destroying the target. Big single warheads are also easy to shoot down, which is why MIRV type warheads are used. Tsar Bomba style nukes have gone the way of the battleship.

t. /k/