Psychopathy and Mental Boundaries

[Anonymous No.10916522]

I have a question relating to the more neurological side of psychology and thought that this board would be an appropriate place to ask. My question is, do you think that there is any connection between psychopathy and someone having thick mental boundaries? I'm asking this because people who have thin mental boundaries tend to be more artistic, creative (things that oftentimes correlate with high empathy) and women tend to have thinner mental boundaries than men and are generally thought to be more empathetic than men.

[Anonymous No.10916526]

>psychopathy
even psychologists acknowledge this is pseudoscience now

[Anonymous No.10916532]

>>10916526
Not at all. It's a genetic condition that leads to lower empathy, fear, and disgust and higher aggression. There's genes that influence it.

[Anonymous No.10916535]

This is an interesting picture in theory, but the results are disappointing.

[Anonymous No.10916537]

>>10916526
Psychopathy may be too loaded of a term to use in the future to describe this condition, but it's still a real condition.

[Anonymous No.10916544]

>>10916535
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.10916615]

>>10916522
>Women with low machiavellianism are fat and men with low dark triad characteristics have big ears, everyone else looks the same

[Anonymous No.10916618]

what is a "thick mental boundary"?

[Anonymous No.10916942]

>>10916618

>Dr. Ernest Hartmann observed that people who suffer frequent nightmares had distinctive personality characteristics he described as "unguarded", "undefended", "vulnerable", "artistic", and "open". People with these characteristics seem unable to screen out frightening images and feelings originating in their dreams. They also lack barriers between their own identity and those of others, or between their own beliefs and unconventional ideas.[2] Hartmann proposed that such people have "thin" boundaries between their mental processes and argued that thinness or thickness of boundaries was "a broad dimension of personality and an aspect of the overall organization of the mind." He considered the concept to be similar to William James' concept of "tender-mindedness" and to Blatt and Ritzler's "permeable ego boundaries". The construct is measured with the Boundary Questionnaire which assesses thinness of boundaries in relation to a variety of areas, including boundaries between sleeping and waking, thoughts and feelings, and persons, places, and values.[2] People with thick boundaries tend to see the world in "black-and-white" terms, whereas those with thin boundaries tend to be more aware of "shades of gray". Women tend to have thinner boundaries than men, and boundaries tend to become thicker with age.[1]

Thick boundaries are basically the opposite of that. A firm sense of identity, ability to focus on a task and block out other thoughts, etc.

[Anonymous No.10916961]

>>10916522
OP, you clearly think there is a connection. But do you have a plan for how to demonstrate it? You have to be ready to pick apart your reasoning before you can expect to form a reasonable hypothesis. The mind will be tricky if you aren't careful to recognize this fact.

[Anonymous No.10917474]

>>10916544
Doesnt seem to be any difference between the faces, nor is there any resemblance to people Ive known with these conditions

[Anonymous No.10918407]

>>10916522
I want to fuck High Narcissism Female

[Anonymous No.10918415]

>>10916522
Neoteny and domesticity are highly correlated in mammals, including our partially self-domesticated species, and probably causally related for reasons that should be obvious to even casual observers of development. People who are closer to the wild type will in general look older for their age, and also be less playful and more violent, in conduct and in tone of expression and cognitive preoccupation. The artistic/empathic type, more cultivated and cultivating, is essentially more domestic, but also mingles more selectively with its kind, and keeps its distance from those who are more of the wild type. Most of the measures we take of others in social signaling pertain to how acutely, and with how much nuance, this difference is detected. At least this is how I see it, that it's not so much a matter of boundary size, but of how it modulates according to social context: Forgetting themselves, two empathic social virtuosi can easily identify one another as such, and share their typically enormous memories of others with negligible self-censorship. This is also to say that the highly empathic have highly porous boundaries with eachother, but large and exclusionary boundaries against hazardous persons, and circumstances thereof. A similar apprehensiveness, and apprehension of, the natural world usually goes with it: Disinterested curiosity is the most instant and reliable index of empathy I know of, though it does imply a larger, if more diffuse, projection of the self.

[Anonymous No.10918425]

>>10918415
good style, you have attentional deficits you’re not aware of.

[Anonymous No.10918427]

>>10918415
Was this text auto-generated by an AI or something?

[Anonymous No.10918439]

>>10918425
Projecting much? His line of reasoning is easily followed and very intuitive. Domestication is another word for typical tricks, to be tame is to be indolent.

[Anonymous No.10918442]

>>10918439
No faggot I understood exactly what he’s saying and strongly agree with him, don’t ever reply to me again.

[Anonymous No.10918445]

>>10918439
No. The sentences are too long and language used is exclusive and difficult to follow. Additionally the post is a wall of text. At least it makes sense even if he is taking way too long to make his points.

Constructive criticism. I know many of my own posts come accross as slightly word-salad-ish.

[Anonymous No.10918465]

>>10918445
I think this anon has got it figured out: >>10918427
Check out talktotransformer.com, it's amazing the nonsense a good machine-learner can spit out, on the very edge of coherence. Pic related

[Anonymous No.10918471]

>>10918465
This has to be the best tool for meeting word limits in assignments.

[Anonymous No.10918486]

>>10918465
based

[Anonymous No.10918489]

>>10918465
its not generated text idiot.

[Anonymous No.10918490]

>>10918465
redpilled

[beschneidung No.10920033]

>>10916522
i don't look like any of them. The chart is wrong.

[Anonymous No.10920435]

>>10918445
Perhaps he has thin mental boundaries and you have thick mental boundaries :)

[Anonymous No.10920457]

>>10916532
sounds like autism

[Anonymous No.10920663]

>>10918415
Artists are highly undomesticated. They don't follow rules.

[Anonymous No.10921166]

>>10920663
Are you autistic?
Just because artists like to larp as daring rebels doesn't mean they actually are.
Artists follow tons of rules, they're just called fads.

[Anonymous No.10922113]

>>10918407
No, you really don't. Trust me.

[Anonymous No.10922765]

>>10918486

[Anonymous No.10923018]

>>10921166
This.. the greatest artists if anything have had the strongest senses of identity and personal conviction, whereas OP posits that "thin mental boundaries" are strongly correlated to creativity. The greatest artists have always been masters of their craft that dedicated countless thousands of hours to perfection: how is that indicative of an infirm sense of identity, or a weak ability to focus? Such bogus pseudoscience born out of the emotional and personally motivated bias of its propounders

[Anonymous No.10923020]

>>10923018
proponents*

[Anonymous No.10923312]

>>10916522
Everyone here's retarded, OP. What you're talking about is correct, and old news. Psychopathy is like reverse-autism. Autists are overwhelmed by small amounts of stimulation. Psychopaths act out for lack of response to normal amounts of stimulation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5429591/
>One underlying aspect that has been hypothesized to be related to psychopathic traits is aberrant or blunted stress reactivity (Liken, 1995; Patrick et al., 1993). Stress reactivity is a risk factor involved in fear conditioning (e.g., response to distress/punishment cues) and the socialization of conscience.
>Previous research has demonstrated psychopathic personality traits are significantly predictive of blunted cortisol reactivity to a performance-based stressor task (Trier Social Stress Test; TSST) in college students.
>The current study tested the hypotheses that both psychopathic personality traits and amount of time incarcerated are related to cortisol blunting in response to stress among incarcerated young adults.
>Hierarchical linear modeling revealed that time incarcerated and number of commitments were related to a blunted cortisol response among responders and declining cortisol reactivity among nonresponders, respectively. Controlling for time incarcerated, psychopathic traits were significantly related to cortisol decline in response to the stressor among nonresponders, but were not related to blunted cortisol among responders.

[Anonymous No.10923319]

>>10923312
>fear conditioning

[Anonymous No.10923503]

>>10923319
Yes, those are words from that post. What is your point?

[Anonymous No.10923871]

>>10920663
>>10921166
>>10923018
That's why you have to discern between truly unique and creative art and music and stuff put out by people who are just looking to gain the fortune, fame, and influence that goes along with being perceived by society as an artist. Being a rebel and not following rules is very cheap in this day and age. True art and music never dies, even if it suffers in obscurity.

[Anonymous No.10923878]

>>10923312
That's what makes me think that it would negatively correlate to thin mental boundaries and possibly correlate with thick mental boundaries

[Anonymous No.10923887]

>>10918471
Sheeiiitt I wish I knew about this a few weeks back.

[Anonymous No.10924090]

>>10923319
Fear conditioning, and a failure to learn from it, is a very good indicator of a psychopathic personality. One of the key, inborn features of psychopaths is that they don't have as much fear as the general population.

[Anonymous No.10925387]

>>10918427
>>10918465
No, you just don't understand it.

[Anonymous No.10925404]

>>10916522
Could there also be boundaries between thin muscle and thick muscle? I am on the too thin side and i can't change it no matter what i do.

[Anonymous No.10925981]

>>10925404
I'm not sure if they're related, but I think it makes a little sense when you think of scrawny guys typically being the ones who go into music, academics, or something else artsy or nerdy and bigger guys who play football in high school going into business.

[Anonymous No.10926022]

>>10924090
We have just as much fear, it simply isn't wired as a hormonal overbearing emotional framework.