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this is provable with thousands of youtube videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9muc2mT9pBU

>> No.10916364

>>10916357
Whut? My first guess is that box is protecting the doorbuster from wind but I am as dumb as you.

>> No.10916371

>>10916357
>>>/x/

>> No.10916411

>>10916364
>>10916371
wrong it's provable

>> No.10916417

>>10916357
>>10916411
Either troll or complete moron.
Community, you decide.

>> No.10916424

>>10916357
rofl we had this thread a few months ago.

tl;dr this is schizo shit

>> No.10916442

>>10916411
>measure object in moonlight, it gets colder
>measure object in shade, it gets warmer

correlation =/= causation

The object in the shade is not reflecting light. Which means it's not reflecting heat. Which means it's insulated from heat loss. The increased insulation helps it to retain the heat it captures from the ground so the temperature goes up.
I didn't know about this till I saw this thread and spend 5 minutes googling the answer. It's an interesting effect. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

>> No.10916446

>>10916417
>>10916424
then prove it you fucker.. i posted a video of proof now youre fuckin turn

>> No.10916467

>>10916357
The object is radiating heat in all directions. The heat that goes towards the sky doesn't return, the heat that hits the box does.

>> No.10916469

>>10916357
It doesn’t. Look up “radiative heating”

>> No.10916473

Will moonlight help me grow muscle?

>> No.10916476

>>10916446
This video isn't a proof. It's a piece of shit and you should be rightfully ridiculed and shunned for it.

>> No.10916488

>>10916446
the video proves nothing. real experiments need to be controlled much better than laying a pipe on your deck chair.

the idea is so outlandish it's hard to even know where to start. do you agree that moonlight is sunlight reflected off the moon's surface? what makes it different from any other sort of reflected sunlight then?

>> No.10916493

>>10916476
>>10916488
Moonlight isn't sunlight are you fucking retarded. Moonlight is inverted ether. I bet you think the earth is round.

>> No.10916498

>>10916493
i knew that this is where you were taking it. anon, take your meds and don't watch youtube pseuds, they are wrong

>> No.10916506

>>10916442
This.

>> No.10916543

>>10916442
/thread

>> No.10916558

>>10916417
I vote moron. I dig what>>10916442
Is saying but I do a lot of work with heat in the outdoors and all kinds of shit makes a difference with obstacles and wind. This isn't a controlled environment.

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>>10916442
>The object in the shade is not reflecting light. Which means it's not reflecting heat. Which means it's insulated from heat loss. The increased insulation helps it to retain the heat it captures from the ground so the temperature goes up.

is there a name for this phenomenon or any papers about it?

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>>10916424
>schizo shit
i bet you believe the global warming narrative and iraqi WMDs and russia hacked the election dont you?

>> No.10916669

>>10916498
>pseuds
at least im not a liberal lol

>> No.10916685

>>10916446
Observing something does NOT proves its cause you raging autist.

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>>10916658
>is there a name for this phenomenon or any papers about it?

>> No.10916717

>>10916687
>schizo diagrams with made-up words

>> No.10916723

>>10916717
Literally lol

>> No.10916807

>>10916717
Damn it! I laugh again. How do you be so funny. It is simple and eloquent.

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>>10916357
>Box makes things warmer or moonlight makes things colder
>It must be the latter
This is what mental illness looks like.

>> No.10916884

People this dumb shouldn't be allowed to live

>> No.10917098

metal pipe inside box: shielded from cool air, cannot ventilate gases inside the box therefore stays warm

metal pipe outside box: ventilated, air strips energy off and thus cools it. The exposure to moonlight probably slows this process a bit but does not impede it

what other explanation are you looking for op? I just explained how airplanes work by the way.

>> No.10917108

>>10916815
>>10917098
Heat is caused by the aetherial vibrations of quantum energons in the astral plane congregating around matter. Moonlight is energons spinning in the opposite direction so they cool things.

>> No.10917119

>>10917098
Airplanes don't operate on moonlight and boxes.

>> No.10917129

>>10916717
Oh fuck! I forgot about this and came to check what's up here. Still pretty funny. Aw! I was trying not to, but I laughed again.

>> No.10917143

>>10917119

airplanes operate when gas, when heated to a high temperature, wants to escape to a lower temperature area and return to thermal equilibrium. This process is the same regardless if it happens when someone removes a metal object from a box, an afterburner inside a jet engine or a bullet fired from a gun. The process is the same: hot metal object becomes cold once it exits it's containment vessel.

It happens with rockets too, after the rocket vessel leaves the containment vessel that is earth's atmosphere they cool down even if they are in direct sunlight or moonlight. Energy is gradually dissipated.

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>>10917108
based and redpilled

>> No.10917223

>>10916357
>>10916411
>>10916446
Radiative cooling + sub-80 IQ slopeheads who never read the instructions on their IR thermometers and don't understand how they actually work and how accurate they are

>> No.10917230

>>10916357
It gets colder at night you massive double nigger.

>> No.10917243

>>10916667
The globe is warming up, Iraq did unironically have weapons of mass destruction, just because they werent loaded to the teeth with nukes doesnt mean saddam wasnt gassing people left and right. and russia did affect the outcome of the election. Again, just because russian operatives werent breaking into voting booths and changing the votes on paper doesnt mean they didnt have a hand in altering the outcome.

>> No.10917262

>>10916411
it's not provable since it's well understood, if you're out in the moonlight you're more exposed to the elements and heat would have dissipated sooner, that's why being the shade at night is usually warmer.. retard.

>> No.10917276

>>10917271
wrong.

>> No.10917559

>>10917243
This

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>> No.10918271

>>10917690
>>10917696
>>10917701
>>10917705
>>10917718
oh hey.. came back and it turned into a surprise /sci/ trap thread.

>> No.10918279

>>10917143
I am !Theee! Aircraft mechanic up in here. Don't school me with your half assed bullcrap. If you want to know something, just ask.

>> No.10918282

>>10918279
Oh yeah.
>>10917718
>>10917714
>>10917710
>>10917705
>>10917701
>>10917696
>>10917690
Wtf? How did this happen? And am I gay now?

>> No.10918614

>>10916357
Miles Mathis explained why.

>> No.10919509

>>10916357
>why does moonlight cool and object?
It does not.

>this is provable with thousands of youtube videos

See, this is just lazy trolling.

>> No.10919807

>>10919509
>ad hominen
nice argument.. so rational

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>>10919509
>It does not.
what a cogent, logical argument, backed up by pure facts and "science"

i really believe you now

tell me about climate change anon

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>>10918614
>some dude said so

wow i guess ill take your word for it.. is this how "science" works?

>> No.10919832

>>10919813
He's not just some dude though. You're too lazy.

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>>10919832
yeah dude youre not being dogmatic at all

>> No.10920449

>>10916357
because there's moonlight only at night, when it's colder

>> No.10920562

>>10916446
>video proof
You've posted some guy measuring the temperature across some object, that's not proof at all you retard. What most likely happened if he's not outright lying is that he brought this object outside, initially being at room temperature. He "shaded" (insulated) one side with the box, but not the other. One side was directly exposed to the cool night wind and so cooled down faster, while the other had it's slight infrared emission partially reflected back towards the object, but more importantly was just shielded from the wind.

>> No.10920597

>>10920562
>>10920449
globehead shills sure are desperate. wouldnt the metal object be the same temp if it was simply because its colder at night. metal conducts heat very quickly.

>> No.10920632

>>10920597
Yeah. They are dumber than you. It is simply because of the box. Not a bunch of thermodynamics and shit.

>> No.10920705

>>10920632
why wouldn't the box be the ambient temp as well?

>> No.10920741

>>10920705
Its outside type furniture and I assume that the moon is also likely to be outside. There is wind, even when you cannot feel it and thermodynamics.

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>>10920741
thermo die whaticks?
all i know is it's cold at night because the moon cools things down and the sun heats them up

>> No.10920756

>>10920632
The box has an effect because of the thermodynamics you fucking retard. You're dumber than everyone in this thread.
>>10920597
>metal conducts heat very quickly
you've just heard somewhere that metal is a relatively good conductor of heat and just assumed based off that, you're full of shit.

>> No.10920782

>>10920741
wind is the ambient temp as well, brainlet

>> No.10920785

>>10920756
>wow he knew metal is a good conductor of heat
>he must have stolen that info from a real smarty pants like me
cope harder faggot

>> No.10920787

>>10920782
Not the piece of metal.

>> No.10920798

>>10920785
That was the the fucking point you retard, just that you have no idea what "metal is a very good conductor of heat" even fucking means. Somehow you're not going to burn yourself with a cast iron pan on it's handle even if it's been on the stove for a while.

>> No.10920801

>>10920798
>just that you have no idea what "metal is a very good conductor of heat" even fucking means
it means that if it was wind, it would cool the whole thing down. you're either a shill or absolutely braindead

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>>10916357
>>10916467

Building on this I would also add how the light changes the density of the air causing dissipation of heat into the environment via the air circulating around the moon radiated object. The moonlight basically provides a less dense air channel for any thermally exchanged heated air from the... doorbuster? The moon makes the things chill faster because it just makes the air more dynamic so it accelerates the process. You can really notice this in very cold temperatures sometimes I should add.
Put that thing in a glass or better fresh pyrex box in a sealed environment with moonlight and you'll notice some very different readings inside the box.

>> No.10920808

>>10920805
>Put that thing in a glass or better fresh pyrex box in a sealed environment with moonlight and you'll notice some very different readings inside the box.
someone needs to do this if they legit want to prove anything

>> No.10920849

>>10920805
I was going to virtually smack and choke you (Im still a little stiff in the pants but no homo) but you satisfy me with the last sentence. You are super genius retarded talking of complex variables that contribute to nominalistic variations. Is is pretty much the wind. This is like around five degrees we are talking.

>> No.10920851

>>10920808
But the only ones who give a fuck won't want to disprove themselves.
t. Not the guy. I should let Anon speak for Anon's self.

>> No.10920856

>>10920851
id be willing to believe it with proof. but most of these posts are idiots who blindly believe they know everything

>> No.10920867

>>10920805
>doorbuster
That is either for smashing doors open or driving fence post.

>> No.10920930

>>10920805
you are wrong and dumb

>> No.10920984

>>10920782
You don't understand how wind works but I'm the brainlet?

>> No.10920986

>>10920984
of course i understand how wind works
gradients
like everything

>> No.10920990

>>10920984
yeah im the only guy on the planet who hasn't experienced wind before lmao

>> No.10921015

>>10920782
Google "wind chill," if you really have never heard the term.

>> No.10921025

>>10920449
This raises an interesting point. Because there is moonlight during the day quite often. You could take an object in sunlight, check it's temp, and then use a magnifying glass to concentrate some moonlight on it from a distance, so as not to shade it or otherwise disrupt anything other than hitting it with some focused moonlight, and see if it gets cooler.

>> No.10921083

>>10921015
maybe you should google what wind chill is, brainlet. you're so far up your own ass you might not be able to get google down there though

>> No.10921155

>>10921015
Man air is a shit insulator. Nobody's talking about wind chill. That shit has heat leftover from daylight. And the wind is scrubbing it off. Ary you trying to say the moon is magic or what? Who's side are you on?
>>10920990
Yeah same you. You should get outside more. Welding is a fun outdoor activity. See how you ignore the wind while you do that.

>> No.10921270

Space is cold. Very cold. When you are facing the night sky, everything is radiating its heat off into space. Clouds act as a sort of blanket to slow this loss of heat. Any opaque object between the thermometer and space would form a similar barrier. So if you're under... say a leafy tree or a gazebo, it *will* be warmer as heat is lost at a lower rate that the exposed areas 'outside.' Proof? Repeat the experiment on a clear, starry, *moonless* night. Same result. The presence of the Moon and its alleged cold light have no bearing on the changes. The difference is exposure to a clear sky or not.

BTW... this is right up there with flat Earth.

>> No.10921336

Another interesting property is that a fire exposed to sunlight will not burn as well as a fire exposed to moonlight. This is easy to experiment yourself, to either start a fire in the sun but then block the sunlight. And to start a fire at night and expose it to moonlight or cover it from moonlight. Experience and common sense proves this effect, go ahead and try it

>> No.10921339

>>10921336
But how can a fire ever be in the dark? Whoa man!

>> No.10921343

https://www.chegg.com/homework-help/questions-and-answers/radiative-cooling-used-freeze-water-desert-night-consider-shallow-pan-water-placed-outdoor-q17997120

Lots of complete dumbfucks in this thread, congratulate yourselves

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>>10916357
>using a t-post driver for "science"
holy kek

>> No.10921368

>>10921343
Create account? Deserts get cold and the ancients made ice in the dog ass heat through evaporation through porous vessels. I'm just gonna call you a dummy because I read you calling me one.

>> No.10921374

>>10916717
>made up words
>terms that are too basic even for high school level physics

>> No.10921378

>>10921353
What the fuck is your problem with that?

>> No.10921392

by covering your pipe, you're preventing heat from convecting upwards as efficiently as the uncovered part

you're measuring 4 degrees higher because your deck is radiating some amount of heat stored over the day from sunlight

if you have grass or plants underneath the deck, those are also creating heat that's getting trapped underneath your cardboard

>> No.10921399

>>10921378
I don't have a problem with it.
It just wasn't what I was expecting to see today.

>> No.10921406

>>10921343
sure a whole lot of evaporative cooling happening on a solid steel bar, you fucking moron

>> No.10921409

>>10920562
Yeah this is pretty dumb

>>10920805
Shit post but yes if he want to prove anything he'd need to put the object ina a clear container AND show a graph showing the object had obtained complete thermal equilibrium

what the fuck am I talking about this is sub 90 iq stuff here

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Anons this is the supreme ultimate proof. There can never be any doubt after this. You must concentrate the light of the sun and the moon using a lens. Behold the solar death ray

>> No.10921431

>>10921399
Sorry I was rude. The emotions are flying in here.

>> No.10921432

>>10921424
But if I use the moon's light will it not just be a cooling ray?

Say goodbye to AC with this cool life hack.

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>>10916357
OP I see what you're trying to do, but unfortunately this proof is one of the one's that will be met with incredulous answers such as "Actually, it's just the moonlight causing air displacement so it appears to cool things off because it doesn't have much heat because it's reflected light"

A much simpler proof is: If the moon was spherical, why doesn't it appear geometrically spherical? There should be at least some gradient of tone across the surface, but that isn't what we observe, it's clearly flatly lit at all times, a physical impossibility no matter how much light shines upon it. If they retort by stating the brightness of the sun 'blows out' any tonal gradient, then how can we clearly see its surface with the unaided eye?
Irrefutable proof of the observable non-sphericity of the moon.

>> No.10921458

>>10921432
Yes that is the test! I also think moonlight is cooling so I would be very excited to concentrate it into a glass of water, maybe with special salts that store the charge. Somewhat related but I watched the moon for 20min once during a super moon, and had very vivid dreams, and it definitely impacted my emotional state

>> No.10921462

>>10921451
>If the moon was spherical, why doesn't it appear geometrically spherical?

The 'moon crescent' shape when the moon isn't at the peak of the lunar phase is quite literally the moon appearing spherical

>There should be at least some gradient of tone across the surface

subtlely, yeah, but your eyes actually see light intensity logarithmically, so the drop-off between the 'light' and 'dark' sides of the moon happens almost all at once, not gradually

>> No.10921466

>>10921458
this is the state of /sci/ in 2019

im going to bed

>> No.10921468

>>10921374
>>10921462
Are you the guy without the ability to detect humor? Are there two of you?

>> No.10921469

>>10921468
I invoke poe's law

>> No.10921470

>>10921458
>special salts that store the charge
Genius! Absolutely genius!
>I watched the moon for 20min once during a super moon, and had very vivid dreams, and it definitely impacted my emotional state
Fascinating... what is your horoscope?

>> No.10921480

>>10921462
>implying that moonlight is so bright that any gradient should be non-perceptible
>>10921451
>If they retort by stating the brightness of the sun 'blows out' any tonal gradient, then how can we clearly see its surface with the unaided eye?

Find any image of a full moon, then use photoshop to adjust the levels, there will be zero difference in tone anywhere except on surface feature shadows.

>> No.10921492

>>10921470
I have done similar experiments with storing energy charges in water and salt are sugar work reasonably well. This becomes fun to test when you learn to project energy with meditation.
Haha I don't give out horoscope as I know some of the applications. But a very powerful 12th house Saturn making very tight aspects if your wondering about the meditation. Saturn takes joy in aquarius and in the 12th house.

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>>10921492
Okay, I fold.
Good night, friend.

>> No.10921544

>>10921469
That's what I find so funny about ?You?;)

>> No.10921566

>>10916669
You're still pathetic and mentally ill. Nobody will ever take you seriously, crazyboy. Every single person in your life is laughing at you behind your back, and we'd all be better off without you.

>> No.10921578

>>10917108
Prove it.
>>10917154
Everyone can clearly see that you're samefagging. It's pretty sad.

>> No.10921582

>>10921578
>Prove it.
Sending you the proof telepathically hold on.

>> No.10921591

>>10916411
Isn't your whole worldview defined by the schizo idea that math can't apply to the real world and thus nothing is really provable? You're not even consistent within your own failed ideology.
>>10918279
>just ask
How'd you get to be such a raging homosexual?
>>10919811
And now it's weeabooposting. Why am I not surprised?
>>10919851
Says the dude that literally believes what he believes without verifiable data because "hurrr math doesnt real".
>>10920597
>globehead shills
Okay, you're definitely a troll. I'm fine with that. I'd rather trolls exist than dumdum aetherheads.

>> No.10921603

>>10920801
You're both. Go throat Ken's dick a little deeper.
Why do you morons even come to this board when you clearly hate science and believe yourself to be above it? Do you just like wasting everyone's time? Or are you just a contrarian that likes to feel superior solely because you believe something that most people don't?
>>10921155
>Ary you trying to say the moon is magic or what?
He's an electric universe retard, so yes, that is what he's trying to say, even if he doesn't realize it.
>>10921582
All I got was a magical vision that you're an idiot and a liar. Thank you for being so honest.

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For some actual /sci/, how big of a reflector like >>10921424 or magnifying glass/fresnel lens would you need to burn a hole in a piece of paper with moonlight?

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well google says the full moon is 400,000 times dimmer than the sun, and you can start a fire with sunlight out of a half-inch lens, then you would need a lens about 27 feet across to start a fire with moonlight. someone check my stoner math.

>> No.10921913

>>10916357
>puts object by window
>object gets cooler
>Science.

>> No.10921962

>>10916687
is this how soup cylinders work?

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>>10921861
Take any lens of substantial size, focus it onto a suitable surface, then measure the temp of the focal point compared to ambient? Surely anyone with a lens and infrared thermometer could perform this experiment in minutes and shut people like OP up?
Good thing others already have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqkNREKuDYI

>> No.10922325

>>10916442
That doesn't really make sense. How is the moonlight supposed to help transport heat away?

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>>10922310
can't unsee

>> No.10922472

>>10916442
>The object in the shade is not reflecting light.
Sure.
>Which means it's not reflecting heat.
Little outside radiation impinges, so naturally little outside radiation is reflected...
>Which means it's insulated from heat loss.
Huh?
>The increased insulation helps it to retain the heat
Increased how? Why?

>> No.10922501

>>10922472
>replying to graspingforstrawsposters
shygddt.

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why are moonless nights warmer than full moon nights?

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>> No.10925752

>>10925739
Am I gay now?

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>> No.10926994

>>10926900

this photo just looks gross to me. 0% exotic ancient egyptian, 100% gross, painted-up skank.

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>>10926994
ur a fgt

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>>10916357
>/x/

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>>10916417
It's /x/ refugee

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>>10927129

it's the blue hair. unnatural hair colors never look good on anyone. it looks cool in cartoons and anime but it's so tacky irl.

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>>10928080
>point elbows would not bang

you would give your left nut to smell her fart

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