/eng/ - Engineering general thread.

[Anonymous No.10904047]

Thread for both /eng/ students and professionals. Post questions you have, interesting topics, or anything else related to /eng/.
Previously >>10765043

As per request edition.

[Anonymous No.10904118]

>>10904047
Anyone have info on designing bladeless axial turbines? Flow through types? I'm trying to see what the main factors are in determining the internal geometry. Information is hard to find.

[Anonymous No.10904698]

Lads, I need you to maintain some pretense of activity to test whether OP gets banned or not. See /sqt/ for the exact situation.

[Anonymous No.10904713]

What actually do most aerospace engineers?

[Anonymous No.10904719]

Applied for a student assistant position last semester on a topic I don't have a real interest in and bombed the interview.
Applied to two more student assistant positions for this semester on topics I genuinely care about and received no call. I'm sad.

[Anonymous No.10904728]

inb4 the NPC tells us what he thinks about engineering then gets his post deleted.

[Anonymous No.10904729]

>>10904118
I remember some anon years ago being stoked over his design which he was trying to patent
It had like multiple holes/tunnels, round and twirly, supposedly effective but I imagine not profitable to manufacture until technology advances to allow it for cheap maybe with 3d printing

[Anonymous No.10904740]

>>10904047
Been job hunting since june for mechanical engineering entry jobs with no such luck. Anyone else on the same boat?

[Anonymous No.10904751]

I've been interested in cascading failure lately. Can anyone recommend papers or books on designing against it?

[Anonymous No.10904756]

>>10904719
You gotta front being a normie man
It's all about blending in with the well-rounded well-socialized masses for just those minutes

[Anonymous No.10904765]

>>10904740
Oh yeah. It took me 16 months to find a fucking job out of college. Now I almost don't want to kms.

[Anonymous No.10904769]

I'm getting laid off December 31, how hard will it be to find a job at the end of the year? I only have like 2.5 years of experience so I'm aiming for just barely above entry level, and I'd like to do process control which is a bit more niche than regular process engineering.

I've got a couple of offers right now, but if I stay in my job until the end of the year I get about $30k in severance which seems like a pretty good deal for twiddling my thumbs for another 4 months.

>>10904740
Job hunting is miserable. Searching while you have no job and no experience to make headhunters interested in you is especially bad, but if you're lucky this first job hunt will be your worst and it'll be much better next time.

Write out your answers to common interview questions. You don't have to have them memorized, but at least have some idea of what you'll say. Look up STAR type answers. Come up with a good 2-3 minute monologue for when they ask you to introduce yourself.

[Anonymous No.10904782]

>>10904769
If you have a couple offers right now, do you think it will be more difficult to get more offers if you stay for severance? I'd stay honestly, but I don't know what your position is in terms of job hunting.

[Anonymous No.10904801]

Last spring I accepted a co-op offer from a solid company. Supposed to start next week, but today I got an internship offer from one of my dream companies for the same term. Spent all day wrestling with whether or not I should back out of my first acceptance, anybody wanna give me any advice?

Generally I consider myself a pretty honest guy and I'm really just concerned about ending up on somebody's shit list, between the first company, my school's career center, or just anybody I told about my original acceptance (including a few engineers from my internship this last summer, which I liked well enough).

[Anonymous No.10904806]

>>10904801
Do you think they would understand if you wrote them a good respectful letter explaining your thoughts about it? I don't know how professional life works but they are human so they probably have empathy if it's your dream

[Anonymous No.10904823]

about to start hydraulic engi

what am in for?

[Anonymous No.10904830]

>>10904801
They wouldn't hesitate to fuck you over for a different candidate. Just write them a passive aggressive "I regret to inform you I have accepted employment elsewhere" letter.

[Anonymous No.10904842]

>>10904801
Take the one you really want. Companies don't give a shit about you, and you shouldn't worry about hurting their feelings because they have no feelings. Be polite and professional and honest with the people you're turning down and try not to burn any bridges, but they should be reasonable people just like you and they should be sympathetic. The company will be fine, they're not going to go out of business because they lost an intern.

>>10904830
He's right that the company wouldn't hesitate to fuck you over, but you should still be polite. There's a difference between the company and the individuals that you are talking to, and it's a small world in most industries so you never know which of those people you might run into again.

[Anonymous No.10904853]

>>10904713
Most aerospace engineers actually the whole plane

[Anonymous No.10904881]

How honest is too honest?

I graduated two years ago while in the depths of the worst depression I've ever had. I put some effort into finding a job, but obviously nowhere near enough. I failed out of society, ended up on the street, and honestly it's a wonder I didn't end up killing myself. But, I didn't, and a couple months ago took a temp job at a warehouse and started putting shit back together again.

They've hired me on and promoted me twice since then, and I'm staring at two more opportunities for another promotion into a lead role, and I realized... I fucking hate this job and everything about it. The pay is awful compared to what I could be earning if I actually applied the degree I earned, and the stress just isn't worth it.

So, back to the job search it is. But, what do I say when asked about this situation? I mean, I haven't touched a damn thing engineering related in the last two years, and my resume wasn't exactly stellar out of the gates either. GPA was good (3.7), but no internships, and shit projects. And I know I would get grilled on this, because why would any company take a washed up failed grad over someone right out of the gates?

I'm honestly wondering if it's even worth trying for an engineering position (degree was ME, FWIW), or if I should just pigeonhole myself into logistics and try to get a lateral to upwards move to another warehouse that pays better and isn't run by a moron. Use the degree as a club, to show that yes I can in fact do anything systems related you ask me to do.

[Anonymous No.10904891]

I've agreed to give a couple of guest lectures for my school's intro to engineering class. I'm working through what I'd like to talk about. What advice would you give to first year engineering students?

[Anonymous No.10904897]

>>10904881
>But, what do I say when asked about this situation?
The truth. If you're serious about going into engineering, I'd recommend at least starting a Master's degree somewhere to get you back in the groove and to show potential employers that your serious. However, there's nothing wrong with going for another career path (in fact, I'd recommend it unless you really love engineering), and an engineering degree will go far in a lot of fields.

[Anonymous No.10904900]

>>10904891
Transfer to Comp. Sci. or Comp. Eng.

[Anonymous No.10904907]

>>10904806
>>10904830
>>10904842

Thanks for the advice, guys. Maybe I'm overthinking things and making it a little too personal, but I dunno: The guy who interviewed me last spring's an ex-member of my college design team and has hired a few students off of the team, and I was able to get my first job last year thanks to my school's career office. Just leaves a little bit of a bad taste in my mouth to turn my back on either of them, and you never know what could come back and bite you.

Also, it's worth noting that the job at the dream company is less technical and more project management focused (which is a little intimidating, but probably also good for me), while the first job is more technical, which I think I would prefer. But the new offer's in an industry I'm more interested in and I'd like the chance to get that exposure.

I've had a few people give me similar advice to you guys, but I'm still not sure. I'll need an answer by tomorrow, so for better or worse I guess I'll have one then, ha.

[Anonymous No.10904912]

>>10904907
>job at the dream company is less technical and more project management focused (which is a little intimidating, but probably also good for me), while the first job is more technical, which I think I would prefer. But the new offer's in an industry I'm more interested in and I'd like the chance to get that exposure

I think if you connect the dots you'll see the dream company is the better choice. You list a bunch of positives, and that it's outside of your comfort zone. Great.

Also funny how this engineering general is strictly about career advice haha, no shit engies are all about money and societal positioning rather than autistic appreciation

[Anonymous No.10904919]

i did my first internship this summer. every other intern there basically worked for an hour every day, then spent the rest of the day gossiping.

i got the impression the people i worked with were surprised i actually did work, and didn't just slack off the entire time. are all/most internships like this?

[Anonymous No.10904934]

>>10904897
Even if that truth is ugly? Would a company actually hire someone who admitted to being so depressed they ended up homeless for a bit? I'd love to believe in honesty, but there has to be limits somewhere.

I should look into getting a masters, though, you're right. I know one professor outright offered to get me into his lab for a masters back when I was in school, and a couple more seemed interested in having me on, but at the time I just wanted out. Unfortunately, I also let all my loans go sour in the time I was AWOL, and that's a mess I'm still untangling... I doubt I'm in good enough standing with my old uni to be reinstated, but maybe.

[Anonymous No.10904955]

>>10904769
Thanks anon I'll check those STAR answers out.

[Anonymous No.10904956]

>>10904713
they learn to spoken english

[Anonymous No.10904976]

>>10904740
Took me fucking ages to get my current gig. Spent like a year doing scheduling and design at a splashback company. I couldn't stand talking to customers so I left and went to a recruitment agency, helped me get my foot in the door to a company that builds semi-conductors. Good pay, chill work.

If you're really struggling try a recruitment agency, hopefully they'll have temp/contract positions at engineering companies. It's amazing though hiw quickly my friends got jobs doing Civil Engineering compared to Mech

[Anonymous No.10904980]

>>10904047
Is mechanical engineering an easy major?

[Anonymous No.10904981]

>>10904980
Extremely easy.

[Anonymous No.10905016]

>>10904980
It's the easiest out of all the engineering disciplines

[Anonymous No.10905059]

>>10905016
No that would be civil and all those other meme engineering degrees, industrial engineering, et cetera

[Anonymous No.10905092]

>>10904047
>Engineering general

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=han3AfjH210

[Anonymous No.10905105]

>Went into CS
>Enjoying the higher level math
>Despise the programming
So I guess it's engineering time now

[Anonymous No.10905109]

>>10905105
Just go CompE or EE. CompE and EE can do everything a compsci nerd can do, and more.

[Anonymous No.10905110]

>>10905105
>higher level math
>CS
LOL
>despise the programming
you at least have a soul

[Anonymous No.10905120]

>>10905110
Programming is just problem solving and software design. How can you find solving equations to be fun and interesting, yet designing a working program to be boring and tedious? That makes no sense. The only people who think programming is boring are low IQ normies who never got past intro classes.

[Anonymous No.10905838]

>>10905059
Actually, civil engineers need to know more than any engineering major. They deal with water flow, structure design, and hydraulics among others, and must be polished in a wide variety of skills to succeed. You should think next time before calling civil engineering “easy”

[Anonymous No.10905855]

I am currently thinking of studying engineering in Germany. I am from Italy btw and emigrating is quite normal here, the opposite is abnormal. So, I’ve just finished high school (which was primarily based on humanistic subjects such as philosophy/Greek and Latin literature/lhistory ecc) and never been great at math. My parents want me to study something that will be well paid later on, so engineering was my first choice (I cant seriously waste all my teen years to study medical shit and ending up being a depressed mediocre med). I’m kind of interested in phisics but other than that no real scientific interests. What the fuck should I do? Is there some engineering degree with some economics with it or.. dunno,I am just being delusional here

[Anonymous No.10905856]

>>10904047
Anyone have those jokes about engineers being faggots?

[Anonymous No.10905859]

>>10904740
>>10904765
>>10904769
Reminder that engineers are the biggest cucks out there and they're too narcissistic to admit their career prospects have gone to shit.

[Anonymous No.10905862]

>>10905859
Dear me, your professors couldnt even write their signatures properly, were they even white?

[Anonymous No.10905870]

One sec, I thought studying engineering was a wise choice. Lol, wdym?

[Anonymous No.10905871]

>>10905862
This is the absolute state of engineering students, and further proves my point. Engineering is the new meme degree for retards who don't know what to study, and now it's filled with dumbasses who don't even know what licensure is.

[Anonymous No.10906058]

>>10905862
Yikes, that's not a diploma, anon...

[Anonymous No.10906329]

If you have an associates degree and a bachelors, is it actually worth listing both on a resume? That's two lines of content I could put projects or work experience in, showing something that isn't actually useful.

[Anonymous No.10906652]

>>10904047
Undergrad here. I fail with a integral calculation since 2 weeks, if anyone could answer me this I would be more than happy:

>find the arithmetic mean and root mean square of the following function:
>f(x)=y=sgn(cos x) in the x-value area between minus infinity to plus infinity

I understand that minus and plus infinity are part of the integral and how a Signum function works, but wtf do I do with y?

Ye, I know I'm a brainlet, no need to comment on that.

[Anonymous No.10906723]

Just got accepted to my engineering course, it specialises in the second year. My choices.
>Biomedical
>Chemical
>Civil
>Electrical
>Mechanical
>Structural

What do you think is best and why?

[Anonymous No.10906854]

>>10906723
Pick the one you already study in your free time. That's the one you'll be most proficient in, and the one that will feel the least like work.

[Anonymous No.10907110]

>about to start actually taking EE courses at a uni
>A.A. GPA is 3.0
how fucked am I

[Anonymous No.10907115]

>>10907110
Uni undergrad courses are not significantly more challenging than CC its the quality of instruction, peers, and equipment that are undeniably better

[Anonymous No.10907144]

>>10905838
It's the easiest one. That's why it has the most girls in it.

[Anonymous No.10907153]

>>10907110
wtf is AA GPA?

[Anonymous No.10907158]

>>10905859
>get some meme engineering degree like industrial engineering, chicken engineering, whatever
>can't get a 200k/yr salary as a data scientist
>WTF BUGGED MECHANICS

[Anonymous No.10907175]

>>10904823
there's going to be alot of pressure involved in this.

[Anonymous No.10907192]

>>10904842
>try not to burn any bridges,
this right here. in the world of Professional Engineering, you don't want to burn a single bridge, ever. not trying to be funny here, this is serious
no you dont kiss ass or jeopardize your morals, ethics, or the profession for the sake of some social/work related ties.
but you want to have an open, strong network among other professionals and other associates in the field or related fields
that professional network is invaluable
sure not every single person your connected to is going to be a golden goose or anything.
but if your lucky you'll become associated with at least a few "really good" professional colleagues that will be a huge boon to your career just by knowing them and having them as a resource of knowledge, info, references, connections, experience, wisdom, advice, second opinion for solutions to difficult problems on the job, etc,..

[Anonymous No.10907203]

>>10904047
Internship over, company wants answer but is only giving me a week to decide. I have a few interviews scheduled for next week though. Is their a way I can say I need more time without making look like I’m exploring other options

[Anonymous No.10907208]

>>10907203
>Is their a way I can say I need more time

yes. say you need more time. simple. you dont have to confess every little reason. just say you need more time. two weeks is reasonable.
just know that if they are in that much of a hurry, good chance they'll snatch up somebody else in your place.
alwasy tough decisions anon

[Anonymous No.10907225]

>>10904881
Consider applying for test engineer position as they tend to be more entry level orientated. Also in theory really liberal hip startups would probably give you bonus pints for having a sad story.

And of course there is always the railroad.

[Anonymous No.10907241]

>>10904047
O I L

&

G A S

ENGINEERING

MONEY
MONEY
MONEY

[Anonymous No.10907251]

>>10907208
Honestly the only reason why I would accept is if I couldn’t get anything else. It’s not even engineering its more of a maintenance supervisor position. I just wish I could go through these interviews and see if I either move onto to the second round or get offered a job easily.

[Anonymous No.10907338]

>>10907241
Yeah right. Not in canada.

[Anonymous No.10907343]

>>10904713

Aerospace engineer at a major defense contractor here... My work is mostly designing and conducting wind tunnel tests, running various aerodynamic prediction tools (CFD, CART3D, that sort of thing), creating useful software tools, implementing aero models into 6-DOF simulations, and coding the aero models themselves. Probably the best part of the job is that I'm actually doing what I learned and enjoyed most in school.

[Anonymous No.10907389]

>>10907343
How is the money there?

[Anonymous No.10907431]

Marine engineering is criminally underrated

[Anonymous No.10907463]

>>10904047
y=my+b

[Anonymous No.10907540]

>>10904891
Learn to love studying is a big one imo. Also joining clubs like FSAE is a great way to practice what you've learned.

[Anonymous No.10907600]

>>10907389

I started at $80k with a masters.

[Anonymous No.10908068]

[Anonymous No.10908075]

Hey, I'm trying to grt a document from the IEC, more specifically IEC 60870-5-104, however in their store it costs 400 CHF. It is about transmission protocols. Any ideas where I can find this? Tried sci hub, but couldn't find it.

[Anonymous No.10908142]

>>10907153
the gpa I have overall for my Associate's Degree at my community college

[Anonymous No.10908359]

Is thermodynamics hard or just a brainlet filter? Everyone at my school is also telling me I also got the absolute worst professor for thermo and Im kinda worried

[Anonymous No.10908371]

>>10908359
Thermo is a divider because it's impossible to wing it. No one gets by on being a "quick learner" or "gifted".
If you don't do the problems, you will fail.
If you do the problems, you will find the exam fair.
This is why everyone gets <40 or >90 in thermo and there's almost no in between.

The other trap is the classic checking the answer guide while attempting the problems and then boosting your ego by thinking oh yeah I definitely would have figured that out on my own I just forgot one tiny thing. If that's you, have fun fucking the whole problem up on the test because you're going to forget that same tiny thing.

That being said, the profs often get a terrible reputation because they tend to teach a bunch of shit in class that won't help you because the exam will test regurgitation of problem solving format, not the mechanics behind why a formula contains the variables that it does.

[Anonymous No.10908382]

>>10908371
>No one gets by on being a "quick learner"
ah shoots thats the kinda person I am
guess I've gotta take this really seriously, thanks

[Anonymous No.10908422]

>>10908075
Found a German version "60870-5-104:2007-09" on libgen.is standards section. It's the same as the 2006 English version, but in German. The text is readable, so you can convert it using Google translate's document translate, after splitting it into 3 parts to fit their upload limit.

[Anonymous No.10908710]

>>10908371
>The other trap is the classic checking the answer guide while attempting the problems and then boosting your ego by thinking oh yeah I definitely would have figured that out on my own I just forgot one tiny thing.
you just fired a bullet directly at me and it hit me square in the heart
this is why I failed calc II

[Anonymous No.10908793]

>>10908422
I can actually speak german, thanks mate.

[Anonymous No.10908817]

>>10905859
>made guy can’t earn
lmao, nigga you could sling HVAC off Craigslist and Upwork and make $60k a year in your spare time. There is a saying that you aren’t a salary man without a side hustle.

[Anonymous No.10908820]

eurobros how are your prospects looking? i graduated aged 34 about 14 months ago, haven't got a response from anyone, i have offers to teach stem in china, should i just go with that? would love to get into nuclear or oil, but there is nothing doing

[Anonymous No.10908882]

>>10905120
>How can you find solving equations to be fun and interesting
>solving equations
>real math
Anon please

[Anonymous No.10908887]

I keep using these website like ziprecruiter. Uploaded my resume and employers are opening my resume more than once. Sometimes like 5 times. I'm guessing its their algorithm going through them. Just wondering if I'm ever gonna get a call back.

Also getting annoyed with recruiters saying they like my resume, offer me a possible position, and I never hear back from the actual employee.

Funny that only one recruiter replied back for an Hardware engineering role, but the listing wanted someone with 5+ years of exp. I have 0 so I dont know why he sent me a message.

[Anonymous No.10908896]

>>10908887
just adding on to this. I've been out of school for about 3 months now and I've only had 1 interview out of like 100+ resumes I sent out. This is awful.

[Anonymous No.10908911]

how bad is the job search for an EE grad? CompE?

[Anonymous No.10908912]

>>10904047
>yellow hat wearing makeup

lmao

[Anonymous No.10908984]

>>10904806
>>10904830
>>10904842
>>10904912

Welp, I took the advice and went with the dream job. I think I would have regretted it more if I hadn't, but looking at my interviewer/would-be coworker's disappointed email still made me feel like a real scumbag.

I guess it's my fault for creating this situation. Well, there's nothing to be done now.

[Anonymous No.10909017]

>>10908984
post the mail, POST THE MAIL
come on dude post the mail.. post the mail..

[Anonymous No.10909018]

>>10907431
Nah, it’s not because you end up on a cargo vessel for 8 months out of the year.

I guess if you REALLY like the sea and being alone it’s pretty good. Just bang prostitutes when you come into port.

[Anonymous No.10909080]

>>10909018
I indeed love fucking off to the ocean, but most marine engineers don't usually stay at sea. Shipbuilding, naval design, ocean structures and lots of other fields don't require you to go full ahoy

[Anonymous No.10909096]

>>10909017

Ha, I don't think so. He doesn't go ham on me or anything anyways, it just seems a little passive aggressive, and it's easy to make me feel like a scumbag.

[Anonymous No.10909128]

Which countries have the best engineers/engineering education?

[Anonymous No.10909170]

>>10904891
Talk about your job(s) and what you do on a day to day basis so they know whether it’s something they actually want to do. Probably tips on internship stuff too.
t. our guest speakers weren’t informative enough

[Anonymous No.10909188]

Any chemE bros here? My school’s program makes it possible for me to take ‘pchem for bio practices’ instead of the real thing and I have no idea what this entails. The department head wouldn’t fess up about it either.

[Anonymous No.10909198]

starting 3. semester soon. spent the time between 1. and 2. semester as an intern in steel construction(office and workshop/on-site). spent time between 2. and 3. at the same place as employee and found another internship at a prototyping place. between 3. and 4. semester will try to become employed at said place cause its jsut 1 month. will try to get internship at major company next year, hope it will be my entry into the big world

[Anonymous No.10909200]

>>10907175
CARLOS!

[Anonymous No.10909275]

>>10908887
>ziprecruiter
this and Indeed.com,
linkedin not a bad thing to network on too.

[Anonymous No.10909277]

>>10907338
hmm, too bad for the leafs I guess. iddtn realize.
but from my experience in the US Oil & Gas, seems like anybody with a professional license in a technical field like Engineering is eventually gonna get to 6 figures salary sooner than later. which I think 6 figures isn't bad.

[Anonymous No.10909900]

>>10904765
>It took me 16 months
Fucking hell anon. Makes me depressed about my search.

[Anonymous No.10909901]

Mechanical engineer here. Company is paying me to take online courses covering whatever topics I would need to know. Wanting to look more into vibration isolation and vibrations in general. What’s a good place to look/a reputable online learning school/website to start looking?

[Anonymous No.10910251]

>>10909900
if you expand your job search to a greater portion of the US, you will find a job rather quickly

[Anonymous No.10910646]

>>10909901
JP Den Hartogs Mechanical Vibrations for an academic treatment. There is a company called Technical Associates out of the Carolina’s that has a lot of good material for practical applications of vibration analysis.

[Anonymous No.10910658]

>>10910251
This so hard. Go where the money is, you aren’t going to get to kick it in your home town.

[Anonymous No.10910694]

Hey guys I got a question.
Got a Bio degree and don’t really wanna work in a lab, nor get a masters in bio. What’s the civil engineering market like in Texas? I’m thinking about going to school for it and itd only take about 3 years.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10910706]

>>10910694
Should probably add that I have a minor in chem. Would that help with any specialized civil engineering jobs like environmental or petroleum?

[Anonymous No.10910712]

>>10910694
It's always hard to tell. Civil engineering is all about boom periods followed stagnation, so it's impossible to tell exactly how things will be 3 years from now. When compared to other states, Texas is one of the best for civil engineering, as long as you keep in mind what I said earlier

[Anonymous No.10910727]

>>10910712
Huh. What happens to existing CEs in that busy period? Are they laid off?

Also I don’t qualify for financial aid since it’d be my second BS. Is paying off 60-70k loans feasible?

Also thanks for the reply.

[Anonymous No.10910729]

>>10910727
Fucking autocorrect.
*Bust, not busy*

[Anonymous No.10910735]

>>10910706
I don't know if that would help you get a job, but your chem background would help you a lot in your learning, specially if you went for petroleum. Oil industry is really strong in Texas, too, although I don't know shit about environmental engineering in America

[Anonymous No.10910808]

>>10910727
Civil engineers that work on construction, urban planning and structural engineering usually take on projects, instead of having a steady job with a fixed wage. What happens is just that there will be few projects to work on, and lots of engineers competing for these few opportunities. Still, there are smaller markets in civil engineering where you can find stability, specially with stuff related to maintance and regulations.
About your debt, it depends on lots of factors. If you get a nice job and live a somewhat modest life, you can get rid of it in a decade. Debt is always bad, but if you feel like engineering is really your thing, it might be worth it

[Anonymous No.10910840]

These threads are never here when I have a question, and the rare times they are around I've already forgotten.

[Anonymous No.10910915]

>>10904047
Alright /sci/, what's the best degree for getting a well-paying job? I'm MechE now and this thread is scaring me. No CS

[Anonymous No.10910971]

>>10910915
Depends on where you live, here in Brazil the second highest pay is for ambiental engineering, for example.

[Anonymous No.10911171]

>>10910808
I think buildings are interesting but how do I know if it’s “my thing”? I see that with jobs everywhere but how do I know? I like engineering games, does that help me decide?

Sorry for the number of questions, I do appreciate the help though.

[Anonymous No.10911195]

CANT FIND A JOB!
What am I doing wrong? Should I be sending my resume directly to HR people at companies or something? Havent had a call for a job listing in a good while...

[Anonymous No.10911234]

>>10911195
What’s your degree?

[Anonymous No.10911285]

>>10911234
EE. To make matters worse, I live in the east bay as well. Friend says I should apply to SoCal as well, SD, and I have, but I dont think its less competitive down there than here.

[Anonymous No.10911335]

I started a bachelor in civil engineering. In the field of enviromental engineering. Is that any good? I fear my degree will be very specific and limits my options alot

[Anonymous No.10911351]

>>10911335
why not just civil without being that specialized? Have you looked at your job prospects? I've seen people on rebbit complain about this degree. Think just a civil engineering degree with more added biology or whatever courses can benefit you better in the long run. Just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.10911427]

>>10909128

USA

[Anonymous No.10911471]

>>10911335
Sup safety guy

[Anonymous No.10911477]

just got into first year general engineering in ireland
is there anything i have to watch for or take in mind

[Anonymous No.10911735]

>>10911171
Don't apologize, anon. There's nothing wrong with wanting to know more.
I don't think you can know exactly if you like something or not without any previous experience. Thinking of buildings as interesting is already a good sign, though. Since you're american, you can't just throw away your money enrolling in a civil engineering program to find out if you really like it your not, so I'd recommend you to enroll into one or more short courses in trade schools that are related to construction. In that way, you'll be able to tell whether or not civil engineering is really for you, and you'll also start your major not completely clueless about it. From my experience, most engineering students that acquired technical education prior to college (including myself) had it better than the ones that had no previous experience at all

[Anonymous No.10911740]

>>10911285
y-you built connections with important people from the industry before graduating, r-right, anon? sure there is someone you know that can get you a job, right?

[Anonymous No.10911806]

>>10911335
Most of the environmental engineers I know or know of are consultants in the construction industry. They generally work for firms which do civil, environmental, and geotechnical engineering. They work with the MEP engineers on sustainability, and with the developer on DEP regulations. As you can imagine, job prospects depend on how much construction is going on around you. I'm near NYC, so the market is pretty stable. If you have other questions, I might be able to help.

[Anonymous No.10911837]

>>10904751
Yeah, prevent the first failure that would kick it off and you're good.

>>10904769
> I only have like 2.5 years of experience so I'm aiming for just barely above entry level,
Da fuck? I work in Silicon Valley, if you've been at a company 2.5 years you are a grizzled vet wizard. Are you in the US?

>>10904801
What is your dream company?

>>10904881
Go for an engineering technician job.

>>10904897
Shit advice.

>>10907241
If you go into a field specifically for money, you will never make good money.

>>10910915
>Alright /sci/, what's the best degree for getting a well-paying job?
No such thing

[Anonymous No.10911899]

>>10911837
>Yeah, prevent the first failure that would kick it off and you're good.
What about operator error or deliberate sabotage?

[Anonymous No.10911928]

>>10911899
Good point, you should address the SECOND component of the cascade failure to prevent them. Or in an extreme example, every other failure point.

[Anonymous No.10911932]

>>10911837
>Da fuck? I work in Silicon Valley, if you've been at a company 2.5 years you are a grizzled vet wizard. Are you in the US?
Software is not engineering. In a real engineering field you can't even get licensed to call yourself an actual engineer without at least 4 years of experience.

[Anonymous No.10911943]

>>10911932
>the only type of engineering that happens in SV is software
Wrong
> In a real engineering field you can't even get licensed to call yourself an actual engineer without at least 4 years of experience.
Wrong
You sound like a typical cuck as is typical of the few employed people in these threads.
>ok I got my Masters and 400k of debt, now I can be an entry level engineer for 10 years before finally making 80k!
No wonder nobody outside SV can engineer anything these days, you are spending 95% of your time filling out certification forms and apologizing for being inexperienced instead of designing things.

[Anonymous No.10911975]

>>10911195
go to job fairs.

[Anonymous No.10911983]

>>10911943
Why is everyone in your insufferable state such a smug asshole?

[Anonymous No.10911995]

>>10911983
Because we are smarter and better than everyone else dumbass

[Anonymous No.10911997]

>>10911195
>What am I doing wrong?
You studied engineering and expected a good job. I tried to warn you in these threads.

[Anonymous No.10912015]

can somebody here give a quick rundown of how an engineer's work day goes
like on an average day what all do you do and what do you need to know
i have to decide on a major soon and engineering was my top choice but i have no idea what engineers actually do
i would just google it but i feel like if there are actually any working engineers here i could get a more "real" answer
any kind of engineer is fine

[Anonymous No.10912042]

>>10912015
That's an impossible to answer question. Two years ago I was on the ground in a factory for over 90 hours a week at times. These days I wake up at 830am, sit in my bed on my laptop til 1030, go grab lunch/run errands, then work again on the laptop from 12 to 430. Sometimes I drive or fly out to somewhere if something is on fire. Every discipline and job is completely different.

[Anonymous No.10912066]

>>10912015
Do you know how broad "engineering" is?

I studied chemical engineering and I work as a process engineer. I roll into work at like 6:30 and pull up trends of my unit's performance over the last 24 hours and review logs and QC lab results and stuff like that to see if there are any concerns that need my attention. I go to a morning meeting with operators, maintenance, management, safety, etc to talk about the plan for the day. If there's some problem that day then it might be what I work on the whole day. If not, I have longer term projects to do design work for or to write documentation and procedures and I have to participate in hazard assessments and other boring project management meetings. In between there's lots of emails and spreadsheets and meetings and other dumb office stuff. I try to suit up and spend some time in the control room and outside to shoot the shit with operators and stay familiar with the unit. If I need to give any special instructions to the night shift then I'll write up some night orders, but they usually know what they're doing. If something really goes to shit at night or on weekends I might get a call to try to help over the phone or to come in, but it's rare.

I have a friend who studied the same thing as me but he's in consulting. He works at an office most of the time with some travel to client sites to gather data and have meetings. He runs software simulations to evaluate the risk of serious accidents and model the consequences, then writes up reports and recommendations to the client.

I know other people who also studied chemical engineering and they're basically salesmen who sell custom equipment like valves and compressors and shit. Another friend keeps an assembly line running at a fab that makes computer chips. Other people are managers who don't do much of any engineering. One is a patent agent writing and reviewing technical documents for a law firm. One is starting law school to become a patent attorney.

[Anonymous No.10912074]

I'm set to graduate at the end of this winter with a degree in Nuclear Engineering, providing nothing goes wrong, but the electives I've taken and the courses I've taken seem to be more favorable to the Nuclear Medicine path. Should I take the extra semester and switch to get my degree in Nuclear Medicine? To be honest I don't give the slightest fuck about the engineering courses or plant design courses - I took them because they are/were easy if you just put in enough work (haven't got less than an A- in any "engineering" designated course yet but honestly it does not inspire or impress me at all). Is that ring on my finger really worth that much or do you think it's a decent idea to bite the bullet, take another semester and graduate with a degree in primarily Nuclear Medicine rather than Nuclear Engineering with a minor in Nuclear Medicine?

[Anonymous No.10912119]

So, you guys say that you need to cast your net wide, but will companies really even look at some guy from the other side if the country? If he's so bad off that he isn't having any luck in him home state.
Seems kinda like wishful thinking.

[Anonymous No.10912130]

>>10912119
>So, you guys say that you need to cast your net wide, but will companies really even look at some guy from the other side if the country?
Engineer in Silicon Valley - I am literally the only person from the area on my entire team. There are more people from Canada, France, and China than there are from all of California. Where you are matters fuck all, it's a trivial cost to offer someone a moving package if they have to to get someone with needed skill.

[Anonymous No.10912134]

>>10912015
There's a podcast called "grinding gears" which deals with this subject. I would recommend it.
Personally, I'm just interning at the moment, but I've got a pretty good understanding of what the engineers I work with do on a regular basis. I'm at a leading MEP consulting firm. Lower level engineers primarily do load calculations based on the designs provided by the architect, as well as create blueprints which are sent to architects and general contractors. Higher level engineers deal more with administrative things like building codes and coordination between different engineering disciplines.

[Anonymous No.10912169]

>>10912066
>If I need to give any special instructions to the night shift then I'll write up some night orders, but they usually know what they're doing.
Not him but I'm curious. Can you elaborate on what warrants special instructions for the night shift? Is it purely a question of "this is the problem, here's how far we got in fixing it" or is there more to it than that?

[Anonymous No.10912196]

>>10912074
Go with whatever has a higher probability of getting you a job.

[Anonymous No.10912215]

>>10911943
>design
is gay. operations and project management is where its at.

[Anonymous No.10912221]

>>10912015
>wake up
>call into morning group meeting while i drink coffee at my dining room table
>drive into work around 8
>emails
>phone calls
>shitpost
>lunch
>go check on a thing
>MAYBE dick around in excel or something for like an hour
>fill out a form
>go home

i make more than $100k a year doing this.

[Anonymous No.10912225]

>>10912119
>but will companies really even look at some guy from the other side if the country?

yes. you want that sweet sweet move money nigga.

[Anonymous No.10912226]

>>10912221
wow engineers really are entitled welfare queens
i thought that was just a stereotype

[Anonymous No.10912235]

>>10912074
go to med school

[Anonymous No.10912238]

>>10912226
the first thing any good engineer figures out when starting a new job is how to automate as much of his work load as possible. how else am i going to side hustle on the company dime?

[Anonymous No.10912239]

>>10912238
If you have so much free time why don't you just get 5 engineering jobs and make $500K?
t. greedy chinaman

[Anonymous No.10912247]

>>10912239
cuz i like vacations and hobbys and just sitting around on the weekends drinking beer sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10912360]

>>10912066
>I studied chemical engineering and I work as a process engineer.
You mind lending a recent chem e grad anon a hand or some advice for getting a job? Most of my experience is in lab based work and I feel like I fucked myself that way as I have little experience in the more traditional engineering fields. Do I need a higher degree to get a position?

[Anonymous No.10912595]

How many of pic related do you guys know?

[Anonymous No.10912598]

>>10912221
kek same. Meetings with no set agenda, no minutes taken, and no action items. Lovely.

[Anonymous No.10912617]

>>10912238
my first engineering internship was automating stuff for the boomer engineers

[Anonymous No.10912980]

>>10911837
>If you go into a field specifically for money, you will never make good money.
meh, you might have a point somewhere in this.

but any capable engineer going into Oil & Gas will make at least 6 figures or your doing something very wrong

[Anonymous No.10912987]

>>10910658
this x1000

I was having a tough time finding a good paying solid job in my home state after the down turn. there were some jobs, but not at my exact career position or desired pay scale

As soon as I expanded my search to the rest of the U.S.,....
kaboom! I had the good job offers with good solid companies rolling in. Now at $80k/yr with an endless list of benefits and on track to be at $100k+/yr within 5 yrs

[Anonymous No.10913145]

>>10912238
>be me
>have comfy job where I spend 50% of my time just hanging out or working on pet projects
>One day, manager walks by, asks if I know anything about FEM
>"Yeah"
>Turns out our main FEM guys are moving to another group, so me and another guy are supposed to replace them
>The other guy is in over his head
>Now I'm the main FEM guy
>Even with a flot of FEM tasks automated, my whole day is filled by checking models, figuring out the major assumptions and modeling methods, and helping others with their models
>FML
This shit better look damn good on a resume

[Anonymous No.10913843]

>>10906058
you need to go back

[Anonymous No.10913867]

>>10906723
If you want to get a job after you graduate do civil

[Anonymous No.10913874]

>>10908911
Id also like to know.

[Anonymous No.10914112]

Can I get a job 16 months after graduating or will everyone just throw out my resume even faster at this point?

[Anonymous No.10914157]

>>10914112
You better have some good bullshit to fill in those 16 months.

We’re you just NEETing it up?

[Anonymous No.10914449]

What do computer engineers do?

[Anonymous No.10914482]

>>10914112
>>10904765

[Anonymous No.10914483]

Starting systems engineering at Warwick this October, any advice about systems engineering or Warwick in general?

[Anonymous No.10914527]

>>10914157
Yes.
Well I learned C# kinda.

[Anonymous No.10914543]

>>10912595
Literally any female in STEM

[Anonymous No.10914573]

>>10914483
I work as a systems engineer but my bachelors/masters was in EE. I didn't know universities offered SE as a bachelors, that sounds neat. Anyway SE, from the point of view of a contractor (where you will most likely end up working), focuses on creating capability systems with a focus on the life-cycle from cradle-to-cradle (or cradle-to-grave) following the V model, pic related. Each organization is different but usually there are a teams: requirements team, design team (functional and physical), test team (V&V), integration team, and support team (support or ILS is bretty big in SE). Do you want to know about a particular team, or am I being too specific?

[Anonymous No.10914591]

>>10907600
did you emphasize aero or astronautics

[Anonymous No.10914610]

>>10907241
>studying engineering for money
>not studying data science

[Anonymous No.10914616]

any of you familiar with fundamentals of engineering thermodynamics (moran)? My course is asking for 9th edition but its expensive as balls. I like to own books so I still wanna buy one
I can get the 6th edition for like $22 or the 8th for $69 whereas the 9th is well over $100
do any of you know if theres a bog difference between 6th and 8th?

[Anonymous No.10914627]

>>10909128
Singapore. USA for about three or four schools but the rest are meh.

[Anonymous No.10914631]

>>10910915
Finance and Statistics

[Anonymous No.10914679]

>>10914527
tell em you were fuckin' traveling like a hobo or something and "finding yourself" but don't tell them you were just sitting on ass for 16 months. anything but that.

[Anonymous No.10914685]

>>10914616
there is virtually no difference in any undergrad engineering text from now and 50+ years ago. its all the same shit. the only thing thats changed is the questions in the back of each chapter. i used first editions for almost all my classes and it didn't matter until the homework.

[Anonymous No.10914741]

>>10904047
mathfag here doing CS minor. what are the most useful CS classes besides data strutures and algorithms?

[Anonymous No.10914746]

>>10914573
>life-cycle from cradle-to-cradle (or cradle-to-grave) following the V model, pic related. Each organization is different but usually there are a teams: requirements team, design team (functional and physical), test team (V&V), integration team, and support team
this all sounds so boring to me. i'm glad i went into research

[Anonymous No.10914775]

>>10912595
engineers feel smart for doing this

[Anonymous No.10914896]

>>10912066
Holy fuck I deeply regret choosing this major. Just shoot me through the fucking head before I end up enlisting god god god

[Anonymous No.10914913]

How do I switch from electrical engineering to mathematics?

[Anonymous No.10915074]

>>10914896
Well then what the fuck did you want? Switch majors if you think anything else is any less boring.

[Anonymous No.10915461]

any of you guys have a good Cover Letter template for engineering jobs? or just something to get me drafting one for now? All the jobs I've been applying to I haven't submitted a cover letter...

[Anonymous No.10915470]

>>10905855
Be aware that engineering, esp. mechanical engineering, is oversaturated with graduates in Germany and competition for jobs paid by Bavarian or Baden-Wuerttembergian IGM pay scales (100k+ after a few years) is fierce.

That being said, there's a popular "engineering vs economics" course of study here that is canonical, i.e. it's not a fringe discipline nobody knows: Wirtschaftsingenieur (WING), I guess the anglo word is Engineering Management. These people are well-received in high-stakes technical industries like energy companies because they know what beancounter management doesn't and are better beancounters as well. They work in areas that deal with monetizing engineering products and services, optimizing engineering products and services from a business point of view, etc.

They get paid better than most out-of-the-mill typical engineers.

So I guess it's a viable route to pursue.

[Anonymous No.10915473]

>>10915470
To add, WING courses are not per se easier than full engineering courses, just less comprehensive substituting some specialization courses with economics and management. The share of economics/business/management vs engineering depends on the university. WINGs still need to do the same foundational classes / weed-out classes as other engineering disciplines.

[Anonymous No.10915587]

>>10914573
you got discord?

[Anonymous No.10915767]

>>10915461
Cover letters are a waste of time. You are better off using the time saved by not writing one to send in more applications. I have never received an interview for a job that I sent in a cover letter for.

[Anonymous No.10915783]

>>10915767
>>10915767
different anon here.
I use cover letters only when specifically requested. Other wise, I just send my resume.
Unfortunately for just applying via company website many companies have set up, they all specifically require, or ask for, a cover letter to be submitted with resume.

and in cases with no previous contact or communication to hiring manager, the last thing I want to do when submitting resume to apply for a job is to start off by ignoring their specific requests or instructions.

[Anonymous No.10915828]

>>10915074
I knew a lot of the work would end up being budget drafts and whatnot but from reading what you described it sounds like almost straight up finance.

[Anonymous No.10916071]

>>10904740
It took a MecE friend of mine over a year to find his first job. He ended up just getting into programming since there are about a 1000 open developer position in the city he lives in.

[Anonymous No.10916118]

>>10904740
Im glad I went into water engineering. We are basicallu gaurenteed employment

[Anonymous No.10916160]

>>10915783
When they do that I just submit a blank document with a link to my personal website.

[Anonymous No.10916208]

>>10915783
Unless it's a job I really thought I could get a call back for, I would agree with the other anon and just not bother. I would rather spend the time submitting applications to other jobs than going through the rigmarole of having to make an account just for that company's one website, filling out the profile for the account (which is always just the exact same information in a person's resume), filling out a separate application for each position in that company (which is again the same information as what was entered into the profile page), attaching a resume, having to write a cover letter, then finally having to answer a 30 minute long questionnaire of why I would be a good fit for whatever no name engineering company that designs and manufactures shower curtain rods or whatever.

[Anonymous No.10916391]

so let me get this straight for a structure in a seismic Zone you want to find the base year but not that alone you need to find the vibrations coming up from the base the motor vibration and the formulas are there for this but you find the effect of every Beam on every beam kind of like a labyrinth until you've certified that all beams are not in a mode of vibration

[Anonymous No.10916399]

what are the most useful CS classes to take as a CS minor just in case you can't find an engineering job?

[Anonymous No.10916407]

>>10916391
please learn how to construct a sentence before deciding to shit up this thread

[Anonymous No.10916415]

>>10916391
Yes, exactly

[Anonymous No.10916475]

>>10916208
im the guy who originally made the Cover letter question. I honestly dont know what to do at this point. Keep applying I guess. I have a resume for Hardware and different one for software and then regular EE. Each one has a different project I've worked in that should match the buzzwords most job listings ask for, yet I'm not getting call backs. Am I asking for too much money on the salary question? I figured aiming for 65k-70k would be ideal if you live in the bay area. This one indian guy calls me for an EE position and he says its 24/hr max, I thought that was ridiculous. Thats less than 50k...

[Anonymous No.10916530]

>>10915461
>>10915767
More stupid fucking advice from jobless retards. I value a cover letter 100x more than a resume. t. someone actually in the field that actually reviews candidates

[Anonymous No.10916586]

>>10916530
can you give me some pro tips for a cover letter then? I did ask for pointers or something...

[Anonymous No.10916624]

>>10916586
What type of places are you applying to? If it's a small company, I would want to get an idea that you have some unique/niche abilities, are well rounded, and do well managing your own project. If it's a big company then I am more concerned with how well you can handle team dynamics and showing you can learn very quickly.

Why do you want to be an engineer?

[Anonymous No.10916739]

>>10916208
>Unless it's a job I really thought I could get a call back for,
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OR EVEN BOTHERING WITH IT IF YOU ODONT THINK YOU WILL GET OR WANT A CALL BACK FROM THEM.

number one rule, don't pursue jobs you don't really want or don't think you'll get a call back on.

[Anonymous No.10916764]

>>10916586
you craft your cover letter from honest facts with relevant and appropriate language of a content and format that fits you, your skills, experience, career with the employer and the position to which you are applying to.

I know sometimes its off-putting, awkward, or whatever, but its really pretty simple and if an employer asks for it, then you better submit one and make it appropriate and make it good.


Big help is research the employer and learn about who they are, what they do and what's unique, special about them if anything stands out or is interesting to you

come interview time it helps to make a real connection with the interviewer and with the company based upon some real, tangible thing that relates them to you and your career and what you are interested in and have to offer

it doesn't have to be revolutionary or earth shattering, you just need to make some kind of real honest connection to show you care, your interested and you know who they are and what they do. could be something as simple as a recent project they completed that you read about in a professional journal or something

[Anonymous No.10917001]

>>10916399
Minors are worthless. Make a portfolio.

[Anonymous No.10917005]

>>10916530
Honestly, I don't give a fuck because I've since left engineering for those sweet data science bux. I was actively recruited for this job as opposed to sending in a thousand hopeless engineering applications.

[Anonymous No.10917008]

>>10917005
what type of projects did you have to get recruited there?

[Anonymous No.10917022]

>>10917005
>sending in a thousand hopeless engineering applications.
you were doing something wrong

I have only ever put out maybe 3 resumes per job acquired when job searching.
ie, I put out 3 resumes, minimum 1 out of 3 results in job offer

[Anonymous No.10917030]

>>10917008
I did some really interesting interdisciplinary engineering/applied math/CS research related to design optimization during undergrad. Turns out it's also the basis for how 90% of machine learning works

>>10917022
I did ultimately get an engineering job, but it was extremely shitty. None of my friends fared much better. Engineering is not a good field to be in, in the year 2019.

[Anonymous No.10918140]

>>10912015
I have always wondered this too. It's hard to figure out if it's something I would enjoy especially when there is a big variety of answers like the ones in this thread

[Anonymous No.10918212]

>tfw worked in aerospace manufacturing
>tfw all my coworkers were boomers and 2 dudes in the building I was working out of got diagnosed with cancer
>tfw moved to oil refineries so now I get to work with younger boomers
I wonder what companies like Honeywell and Northrop are gonna do once their boomers start dying

[Anonymous No.10918219]

>>10918212
Hire foreigners for a fraction of the pay while they fuck everyone born in America over

[Anonymous No.10918241]

>>10918219
Can't do that, military contracts are huge and because of shit like ITAR and similar contract requirements there's a lot of work and manufacturing that can't go out of the US

[Anonymous No.10918270]

>>10917022
>I have only ever put out maybe 3 resumes per job acquired when job searching.
>ie, I put out 3 resumes, minimum 1 out of 3 results in job offer
When have you sent them out? During a boom time? I've sent out dozens of apps, but only received one serious call. I think I got destroyed in the interview though. I got activly recruited for one job, but I didn't feel comfortable taking it. I wonder if I made the right choice turning it down. How long before I just bite the bullet and send out grad school apps so employers don't look at me as a dirty NEET?

[Anonymous No.10918273]

>>10904047
>be me
>Graduated 2019 BSME w/ 3.5GPA
>Summer Internship Experience + lots of project experience
>CAD, FEA, and CFD experience
>Lives in area with loads of manufacturing, tech, aerospace, and defense companies
>Hundreds of applications sent since December
>About a dozen interviews
>No offers

What does it take to get an entry level ME job?

[Anonymous No.10918298]

>>10918273
>12 interviews with no offer
Anon, I think there might be something going awry in the interview stage

[Anonymous No.10918304]

>>10918273
>About a dozen interviews
You're fucking up the interview somehow. Do you STAR?

[Anonymous No.10918307]

>>10918241
>ITAR
The absolute bane of my existence.

[Anonymous No.10918558]

>>10918273
holy shit, I wish I had this many interviews. I think you need to go over STAR and also try to be sociable, easy going, and friendly when you're being interviewed. No lie, but you are probably fucking up hard on the interviews somewhere. You either come off as not a team player or a retard.

[Anonymous No.10918563]

>>10918212
They don't replace them. Engineering is seen as a cost center, so they make up the difference in manpower through a combination of software and dumping responsibilities onto the remaining engineers.

[Anonymous No.10918779]

This insane struggle will end just once I get my stupid fucking engineering title and land my first job, right..?

I'm so sick of having to be (medically) depressed+suicidal but forced slap on a plastic smile and work my ass off in order to be liked in an hyperoptimistic world just to pay the bills and have a roof over my head. It feels like everyone at this "level" does this because they love it, they think it's fun, and they're having fun. I'm basically psychologically incapable of having true fun, I don't give a fuck, I just do it to earn money. But I can't be honest about that, I can't ever be myself, I just gotta keep complimenting the emperors invisible clothes, which of course makes my symptoms even worse forcing me to just work harder and eventually crash harder (probably). The less honest I am about my miserable life, the further I've come, even if that has absolutely nothing to do with my competence within computer engineering.

I can't wait until I'm successful enough to be an asshole. If I reach that state, maybe I can actually learn to genuinely not be one.

[Anonymous No.10918784]

>>10918273
>About a dozen interviews
Don't you learn from your mistakes during interviews? It took me 3-4 interviews to figure out what to say and what not to say. Pro tip: never mention anything negative nor sad and just be a nice guy without any special quirks. Summon your inner "normie", don't talk too much, always be humble and prepared to suck any dick they're offering.

[Anonymous No.10918885]

>>10918784
I had an interview and I answered everything well and I'm sure I said what they wanted to say. They were both pretty outwardly happy with of all my answers and stuff. But I didn't get the job. So I'm not really sure if what I did was wrong or if there was just someone better

[Anonymous No.10918910]

The equations of motion for four bar linkages are a solved problem, correct? I want to build a quick simulator for them as a programming exercise.

[Anonymous No.10919259]

>>10918298
>>10918304
>>10918558
>>10918784

I will try to stick more firmly to STAR during in the future, thanks anons.

One of the first interviews I had at Boeing was structured and asked me to stay as close to STAR as possible, so that's what I did. Waited 2.5 months after application, and an additional 1.5 months for them to send a post interview rejection. You get a feeling that the engineers interviewing you aren't actually the ones making the hiring decisions, it's cooperate people reading the notes they make during the structured interviews. Ever since then I kinda just try to present myself in whatever way feels natural, taking a portfolio of projects to talk about and running through each item of my resume bullet by bullet.

Even had another aerospace company call me up to let me know that they just decided to go with an internal candidate instead of me. What a kick in the balls that was after the six hours of driving and wasted day.

I had one more interview last week for a gas industry job (plant engineer) and the acceptance/rejection is coming this week, so hopefully it turns out well.

[Anonymous No.10919277]

>>10918885
>They were both pretty outwardly happy with of all my answers and stuff.
From my experience, many often say "oh yes it went great!" and so on mostly to not have to deal with the awkward situation afterwards. I had one company say stuff like "yeah come in if you want to have a cup of coffee" and invited me to do grad work for them, only to call a week later and tell me I didn't get the job, nor the opportunity to do grad work. So, well, personally I don't take any positive comments as genuine before they're willing to put their money where their mouth is.

If nothing else, I guess this attitude develops a mentality to become the person who noone else is better than.

[Anonymous No.10919280]

>>10918779
>engineer
>successful
lol

[Anonymous No.10919296]

>>10919277
I meant during the interview, directly to my individual answers. Stuff like "yes" and nods and "good"

[Anonymous No.10919342]

>>10919296
When they reject you, ask them to give you feedback. They probably won't tell you anything because HR is fucking useless and they usually send rejections by a lame email instead of calling you, but you might get lucky especially if you get in contact with the hiring manager instead of HR. When I interview for internships I call everyone back personally to tell them if they didn't get the job and explain why.

[Anonymous No.10919660]

>>10919342
>When I interview for internships I call everyone back personally to tell them if they didn't get the job and explain why.
Your such a nice guy for doing that.

[Anonymous No.10919700]

>>10919342
Yeah, I should have done that. What I interviewed for was a new small branch, they only have two people working there a man and a woman (the man was the engineer I'd be supervised under, I guessed the woman handled the more business stuff). They told me after that it goes up to the decision of the executive director who is in a different place.
Anyway they didn't call me back to tell me I didn't get the job, I waited two weeks and then called and asked about the status, she told they already picked someone else and good luck and everything. I was actually planning to ask if i got rejected but I don't know, when she told me I kinda just didn't want to spend any more time on it

[Anonymous No.10919724]

>>10919342
Will you be my girlfriend

[Anonymous No.10920231]

>>10919259
>and the acceptance/rejection is coming this week
For me too anon. Hope you get yours!

[Anonymous No.10920314]

is power engineering a meme?
i really want to work in the nuclear or oil industry

[Anonymous No.10920331]

>>10920314
Power is like HVAC, “Blue Collar” engineering that gets looked down upon but is always hiring and easy to make a living with.

[Anonymous No.10920420]

When you guys write a cover letter, do you go through the whole process of finding the company address and HR personal names and then directly addressing the HR person you found? That's what my school's campus career center advocates, but with big companies unless you spend a significant amount of time digging you'll have a hard time finding the correct HR person to address the letter to.

[Anonymous No.10920473]

>>10920420
Address it to Hiring Authority

[Anonymous No.10920489]

>>10920420
I don't put any address on it, and instead of a return address block I put my phone number and email. It's 2019, you're not mailing it. If you know exactly who is going to be reading the letter then you can put their name, but if not then I just use a generic salutation rather than try to guess.

[Anonymous No.10920717]

Alright so I'm starting my sophmore year, aerospace eng major, planning to focus on aeronautics. I'd LIKE to be involved in stuff regarding airflow, CFD, windtunnels and the like, even motorsport. I already plan on getting involved with the FSAE dudes on my campus but what other stuff can I do to improve my knowledge and skills? Someone suggested becoming familiar with openfoam and fluent so Im gonna look into those (or at least the one I dont have to pay for). Also I know a little python, some MATLAB (lol) and some Rust. Any other coding languages you guys would recommend?

[Anonymous No.10920914]

>>10920717
FORTRAN

[Anonymous No.10920939]

>>10917022
this is very clearly fake

[Anonymous No.10920952]

>>10918779
>It feels like everyone at this "level" does this because they love it, they think it's fun, and they're having fun.
Well, yeah

Take care of yourself, and learn to like yourself, man

[Anonymous No.10920957]

>>10920420
I usually open with

"Sup Nigger, "

[Anonymous No.10920968]

>>10920314
frog posters dont deserve jobs

>>10920420
this is a fucking joke that people tell you to fuck with you. HR niggers know not to put "hiring manager for fucking spacex or whatever" on whatever social media page because they know if they do, they'll have 18,000 retards blasting them with emails and DMs they don't want.

>>10920717
do some personal projects that show you like to learn and better yourself.

[Anonymous No.10921131]

>>10920717
If you know some programing already, stick with those languages and get proficient with them. Once you get good you'll have an easier time learning a new one if you have to.

[Anonymous No.10921134]

>>10904881
Im in a similar boat as you. I am in an entry level engineering role in a field I dont have any expertise in (industrial construction). i am severely depressed from my job. I thought I was going to be in a mechanical role but the company switched me around a couple days before I started. all of my coworkers are total assholes to me and I work 16 hours day on a shit salary. Anyone been in a similar situation? I want to quit but I feel I should at least have another job lined up, however I cant schedule an interview because I worry my boss would find out if I asked for a day off.

im not really worried about landing another job. My resume and grades are very good for someone who just graduated. just feel liek people will think I am lazy if i tell them i quit because i was being overworked.

[Anonymous No.10921147]

>>10920968
>HR niggers know not to put "hiring manager for fucking spacex or whatever"
Literally LinkedIn, though.

[Anonymous No.10921153]

>>10921134
>people will think I am lazy if i tell them i quit because i was being overworked.

You frame it to make it about you not being duly compensated for putting in long hours.

Also, your boss doesn’t give a shit about you and will never find out about any interview you have.

Nut the fuck up, boy.

[Anonymous No.10921188]

>>10921134
Your boss wont find out shit unless you tell him or confide on some ass hat that works with you. Apply for jobs, be ready to explain why you want to move to a different industry. Saying that you were switched from mechanical to civil is a good reason and you want to move into a position you feel your skillset will be put yo better use.

Look out for yourself, your employer doesnt give a fuck about you.

[Anonymous No.10921238]

>>10920957
Somehow I giggled at this

[Anonymous No.10921257]

>>10904897
>an engineering degree will go far in a lot of fields
Like what, I'll go into pretty much anything that isn't sales at this point.

[Anonymous No.10921261]

>>10918779
If you hate yourself and everyone around you and want money, why not go into finance?

[Anonymous No.10921264]

>>10921147
Literally HR niggers literally still know to literally not put "I'm literally the guy you want to send your literal resume to" on their literal social media literal profiles literally literally literally

[Anonymous No.10921265]

>>10914616
I think I might actually have that one sitting at my parent's house but that's a few hundred miles away, sorry.

[Anonymous No.10921534]

>>10921264
Are you okay?

[Anonymous No.10921610]

>>10906652
you can just ignore the y, as it is simply another method of writing f(x), it is just notation.

Solve f(x)=sgn(cos(x)) from - inf to + inf

[Anonymous No.10921634]

>>10920420
To whom'st've it may'st concernth've'st.

[Anonymous No.10922142]

>>10905871
>Engineering is the new meme degree for retards who don't know what to study
Nice try, but thats still CS, most zoomers are scared of math, and while true CS has a lot, most programs are software engineering degrees with highschool math, good enough for most of this idiots who only actually want to be codemonkeys.
The actual CS jobs arent that many, being a webdev Magento/Laravel programmer isnt CS, and if thats what you want, guess what, you dont need a degree, just dont be an autist sperg, any highschool dropout can get a webdev job.

[Anonymous No.10922146]

>>10907343
Sounds like you are living the engineering dream, thats great anon.
Where Im from Aerospace engineer isnt even a thing...

[Anonymous No.10922150]

>>10908911
Depends where, Electronics/Low level programming is more niche and difficult to get, but for EEs there is always work in the power distribution field, at least until you get what you actually want if you are not into power dist.

[Anonymous No.10922164]

>>10922142
>The actual CS jobs arent that many
The same goes for engineering anon. Except instead of sitting in a comfy office you'll basically be a blue collar technician. Also you will make significantly less than those webdevs.

[Anonymous No.10922171]

>>10922150
Shit, that's exactly what I want to do, low level programming and low level electronics.
Should I just off myself now

[Anonymous No.10922177]

>>10912074
Work at a nuke plant as a steam plant operator and don't do the night maintenance during the 6 month down time

[Anonymous No.10922190]

>>10922164
>The same goes for engineering anon
Never claimed otherwise.
>Except instead of sitting in a comfy office
I sit in a nice office all day and I hate it (sysadmin), its too sedentary.
>you'll basically be a blue collar technician
Classic meme ''oh are you an EE? Fix my lamp!'', engineers create, design and control, technicians only do what engineers or technologists tell them, they can hardly think outside the box.
>Also you will make significantly less than those webdevs.
Im not a whore, having a job I enjoy is well above having a good pay. I have already switched jobs for less paying positions and will do it again probably.
No amount of money will make up for a soulless job, unless you make 700K or something and do it just to save some money for a while and get out.

[Anonymous No.10922202]

>>10922171
Idk. Im in a similar position, Im a 26yo in IT and I would love to get into low level programming and electronics, but there are very few jobs (at least in my shithole country) and without a degree I have practically no chance of getting one.
I cant afford college so Im thinking of starting EEtech soon, and if I have to get some other jobs closer to electrical first that arent what I exactly want, it still isnt a bad thing, it helps. I still have some hope.

[Anonymous No.10922224]

>>10922202
I guess if bad goes to worst, I have extensive Linux experience and intermediate systems administration experience and certs would be piss easy to get compared to an EE/CpE degree.
It would just be a damn shame to bust my ass getting this degree and then wind up doing the equivalent of janitorial work, while also making myself overqualified.

[Anonymous No.10922258]

>>10922224
Giving up or not is up to you, if syadmin work is good enough for you, its much easier to settle for it, specially if you are already in.
EE work in power distribution isnt necessarily janitorial work though, there are plenty of positions that require the skill of an engineer, its the most widely available subfield so it can be good to get some experience and then move to Electronics, Im gonna try it at least.

[Anonymous No.10922261]

>>10922258
By janitorial work, I meant going from having an EE degree to working IT helpdesk stuff or working at a grocery store. I wouldn't terribly mind doing power electronics, I just like small electronics and computers a lot more.

[Anonymous No.10922271]

>>10921257
Supervisor and management on the railroad.

[Anonymous No.10922465]

My supervisor went for vacation during the last 4 weeks of my 10 week grad work, I wrote and finished the work and a rapport anyway which of course became completely wrong because I had no guidance. When he critiqued it he didn't even know what the problem description I was trying to solve was.

Now after I've completely rewritten rapport anyway he keeps finding increasingly strange and abstract things to critique, which is not at all to the level with the of other rapports which he's greenlit. I've met the guy twice during my entire gradwork, both times before the work started, and by the looks of it we won't meet now either but keep having email correspondence instead.

Is this common..? I mean sure I'm meant to be independent, but to what degree?

[Anonymous No.10922477]

>>10922465

get involved with another advisor before he wastes your 20's with busywork and nonsense. seriously, this is the worst type of advisor to have. it can be hard to seek out someone else because you may not be very confident about yourself, but you should never stick with someone like this. otherwise you may just float directionless through grad school without any real guidance, and have nothing to show for it.

[Anonymous No.10922504]

>>10922261
Oh, well there is always the possibility you will not find work right away.
Though most EEs I know started working in their 2nd or 3rd year of university, not after graduating, I see plenty of offers asking for EE students of the sort of ''Engineers aux. assistant'' or ''Junior Engineer'' even.
If you want a guaranteed job then don't go into engineering, today some codemonkey and IT certs are the way to get a shitty but safe job.

[Anonymous No.10922573]

Posting my story for anyone who also fell for the engineering meme. Things actually have turned out alright for me, but I really do sympathize with the guys in this thread who couldn't land a job 18 months out of school.

Anyways, when I decided to study ME, I had taken engineering related courses in highschool and thought it was a cool field, so I didn't go into it blind, and I was fairly good at math/science. My family was poor, and neglectful, and my dad eventually died of cancer while I was in school while also being addicted to drugs. My mom at the time was distant and recovering alcoholic, and my sister was a heroin addict and began recovery when I was halfway through school. I supported myself entirely, but that meant working a lot during school, sacrificing study time, getting worse grades than I should have. I learned I also liked drinking a lot too.

So I finished school in 5 years, when it should've taken 4, and a 3.2 GPA, and no relevant engineering internships, just a year long research fellowship, and a TA position in an engineering course. I graduated and started looking for jobs. I did everything, went to my career center, wrote cover letters, networked with strangers, went to the career fair, had people critique my resume. I couldn't land a job on my own after about a dozen interviews over the course of a year. At that point I stopped applying to jobs and stopped giving a fuck. My family got worried, and I had to sit by and watch my friends find early success and go on vacations while I worked at a dead end job (it was at least comfy).

9 months after I gave up, I met someone through my sister that helped me land a job as an operator at a power plant. I had no choice but to say yes, as it paid twice what I was making and the hours were grueling, rotating days and nights, and working 12 hours at a time. But the money was good. So I powered through it, but my social life suffered and my health from fucking my sleep schedule.

[Anonymous No.10922576]

>>10922573
But I learned a lot, and kept telling myself to keep applying to jobs, and too see what I was doing at the time as the "internship experience" I missed out on in undergrad. I set myself a 1 year time limit, and kept networking. The networking saved me because within 8 months I met someone who liked me and saw that I was smart and wanted to bring me onto his company as an automation controls technician. So I applied and got it. All this basically through pure luck, by just knowing people. The money and benefits are as good or better than an entry level engineering job too. The other thing about guys in this industry is that they don't care if you don't already know something, just as long as you're willing to show up and learn it.

I don't blame anyone else for my choices, and I've made sacrifices, and will still probably make plenty more. I also learned that I'm not too good to do any job. I apologize for the blogpost but if any of you unsuccessful MEs want to ask me anything then go for it.

[Anonymous No.10922591]

>>10922576
Also my current job pays $80k, OT (not salaried), plus bonus structuring, decent PTO, flexible hours, and 9% 401k match. This is just in case you were wondering what a vocational field of this sort would pay just starting out. Tons of room to grow too.

[Anonymous No.10922650]

I got all of my prerequisites/humanities/bullshit classes out of the way at a CC. I'm transferring to a full university with an AA to start my electrical engineering degree.

I guess you would call me a junior, by the time I get to the uni in Spring 2020 it will be my 6th semester, so I guess the second half of my junior year.
I think I still have at least 2 years, probably 3, to go before I graduate.

Is this going to make a difference when it comes to getting an internship?

[Anonymous No.10922672]

>>10922650
Pro tip: your GPA gets reset when you transfer from community college to a 4 year. Knock your first semester out of the park and it will put you in the running for good internships/scholarships.

[Anonymous No.10922694]

is having no social media presence a red flag?

[Anonymous No.10922706]

>>10922694
I'd get a LinkedIn. That's all I have and I've had a lot of luck so far.

[Anonymous No.10922708]

>>10922694
Just have a LinkedIn

[Anonymous No.10922730]

>trying to get admitted to a university
>failed calc II last semester
>retaking this semester
>university admissions advisor tells me they will make the admissions decision based on my grades up to this semester, not including grade forgiveness

fuck my life

[Anonymous No.10922809]

>>10922730
>he failed calc 2

[Anonymous No.10923036]

>>10922573
>>10922576
Based humble engineer. I had similar struggles when I got my degree but I think it made me a better character, good to hear you came out on top of it all.

[Anonymous No.10923044]

>>10922706
>>10922708
Do you have a profile picture or just your name? I hate the idea of having my picture floating around on the internet.

[Anonymous No.10923047]

>>10922730
>failed calc 2
The great and holy filter

[Anonymous No.10923054]

>>10923047
>>10922809
I was taking 20 credit hours on top of a near full time job on top of raising a puppy I didn't want.
I got As and Bs in the other classes, but "failed" calc II with a 69%.

[Anonymous No.10923055]

>>10923054
>20 credit hours
that includes two labs

[Anonymous No.10923058]

>>10923054
>20 credit hours
Why?
>raising a puppy
The great and holy filter

[Anonymous No.10923067]

>>10923054
>damage control

[Anonymous No.10923070]

>>10923058
I needed to get the classes done and I didn't want to spend another semester at my state college since I wouldn't be able to take a full course load if I stayed (financial aid, adds time to getting the degree, etc).

I didn't ask for the puppy, my mom brought it home one day and then decided it was too much effort to care for. She wouldn't help me find a new home for it and I couldn't just let it rot in a crate for the entirety of its life.

[Anonymous No.10923076]

>>10923070
>my mom
The tainted and unholy filter.

[Anonymous No.10923156]

>>10922730
It's funny because from year 2 up until graduation everyone would talk about the soul crushing calc II midterm the most.

[Anonymous No.10923244]

I can't decide if I want to take the chemical PE exam or the controls PE. I mostly work with chemical type of stuff, but I do a little bit of controls and I would like my next job to be more focused on that. Does it even matter which exam I take? I'm not sure getting the license will even help that much, and I know it's a lot less important than work experience anyway.

[Anonymous No.10924099]

>be me
>starting 2nd year at CC
>taking calc3,phys2,linear algebra,diff eq
Was thinking of majoring in EE after transferring but reading stories about finding engineering jobs in this thread are spooky as hell. Are there any engineering fields that are easier to get into? Contemplating becoming a code monkey/math teacher.

[Anonymous No.10924285]

[Anonymous No.10924694]

How do I find these EE jobs in the power sector. Fuck it, I’ll do that if Ican get experience then move on to hardware or software.

[Anonymous No.10924868]

i am about to get my first patent. wish me luck. i hope to sell a license for 6-7 figures in the future.

>>10924694
try to get a job in construction companies. most of the time they are the ones that build those power plants. they surely need people that know power.

[Anonymous No.10924882]

>prof. makes another "us engineers huh stupid programmers lol macs aren't real computers" joke
>gets all the smelly ugly fucks to laugh
I haven't once enjoyed any of their awful jokes in 4 years and I'm glad it'll all be over soon

[Anonymous No.10924886]

>>10922573
What would you have majored in if you knew what you did now back then?

[Anonymous No.10925148]

>>10924694
Send CV to power companies?
Where I am is easier because the power ''company'' is owned by the government, and there are public listings asking for people with certain degrees every few months.
No paradise, there is much hidden nepotism, but still most EEs end up working for this company or the Telecom company (this is for the power sector).

[Anonymous No.10925170]

>>10923054
Dont give explanations to this losers that probably are still in highschool or freshman.
Calculus can be very time consuming and if you failed with 69% you are clearly not stupid at all, you just needed more study and practice, believe me when someone is bad at Calc, they fail with 10%, not 69.

Calculus difficulty also varies a lot between universities, in some is almost glorified high school math (most people here who brag and are not larpers, probably had this kind), and in others it is hardcore Analysis level, to give you an example, in private universities here the minimum to pass is 86%, and 90% of people pass it with minimum effort, the public university has a minimum of 60% to pass, and in average 5% of students make it in Calc1, there was a year when from 400 students, 0 passed, this happens because a government owned university little cares about reputation and stats, but if you overcome it, you know you are the shit, not like the others that paid to have it easy.

If you studied and failed CalcII with 69%, you are probably at a decent school and not doing so bad, don't give up.

[Anonymous No.10925480]

>>10923044
Yeah. I get where you're coming from but HR reps might think oddly of you for being averse to having your picture up.

But don't treat it like a deal breaker either way, lots of professionals don't use LinkedIn.

[Anonymous No.10925532]

Just wanted to see if I can get some help on not wanting to keep jumping jobs.
Im 23, recent EETech grad from a branch campus of a State Uni. The ETech degrees followed almost exactly a normal Engineering program, and recently got bumped up to a full engineering degree. All ABET accredited too. My degree still is Tech though, whatever. At least I graduated with a 4.0 My first job out of school was a System integration and Test engineer position, very entry level and only paid 57k/year. I jumped ship in less than a year and now work at a federal contracting company that pays 70k and gave me an actual Electrical Engineer title. I currently work on the design of a classified system, sounds great right?
The issue is I hate it. Ive been stuck writing up requirements and making flow charts and not touched a single calc. Its a lot of systems engineering and I have a feeling I will continue to do this for 50% of my time here.
I feel like I should just stick it out since I cant leave ny second job in less than 2 years of graduating but damn. Especially because I feel like I should be fortunate for what i have now, especially since my wife is a CE and even got a structural engineer position but is only making 50k/year.
Anyone else ever in a simular situation? Sorry for the blog.

[Anonymous No.10925556]

Can’t find a job, probably going to kill myself. No internship experience.

[Anonymous No.10926142]

>>10925170
>when someone is bad at Calc, they fail with 10%, not 69.
Not at my (state) university LOL

[Anonymous No.10926150]

>>10925532
>>10914573
I'd keep hunting. There's no point being unhappy at work, as it will make staring at DOORS and FFBDs all day feel like an eternity. In the interview you can mention that systems engineering isn't what you expected.

[Anonymous No.10926203]

>>10925532
>my wife is a CE and even got a structural engineer position
Lucky bastard some of us will die alone

[Anonymous No.10926215]

Could anyone help me with a quality systems homework? I'm doing a semester in Brazil and its the first time I have a hard time doing my homework.

[Anonymous No.10926312]

>tfw mech. engie

Am I fucked?

[Anonymous No.10926420]

wtf bros??? I thought the constant IQ related puzzle threads were just a meme. A company asked me to do both a set of puzzles and a personality test

[Anonymous No.10926433]

>>10920939
yeah, sure thing kid, that's why i'm making $80k/yr moving towards $100k+/yr and never been without a job except when I choose to take a year long holiday

I don't understand how some of you guys say your posting dozens of resumes and not getting any job offers.
I post my resume on indeed.com, and on State Employment Services boards for multiple states for whatever region i'm in at the time or want to go to.
beyond that I've never put out more than 6 direct resume submittals to employers before getting at least 1 offer within a month or less.

I don't send resumes to companies or for jobs that don't fit me for whatever reason. I almost always at least get an interview even with the ones that don't result in an offer.

seriously, you guys got to expand your job search area and be willing to relocate, or your not job searching & applying correctly. I don't get this at all

[Anonymous No.10926555]

>>10926215
>UMA

>>10917022
>I put out 3 resumes, minimum 1 out of 3 results in job offer
>>10926433
I've never put out more than 6 direct resume submittals to employers before getting at least 1 offer within a month or less.

FAKE

[Anonymous No.10926557]

>>10924886
No. I would have done something in a vocational field that isn't physically distressing and would've saved myself three years of schooling and built a career that way. Then maybe went back and did a BS program if I really wanted to be an engineer. Either that, or computer science. Most on my friends who did CS are making over six figures right now in mid-twenties.
>>10925556
What year are you in and what are you studying? Either be willing to take something you think is beneath you (sooner rather than later), or be willing to travel far away from home for a year or two (hopefully you live in US).

[Anonymous No.10926566]

>>10926557
>what would you have majored in
>No.

I'm glad you're miserable and underemployed

[Anonymous No.10926650]

>>10926566
lol I just read "would you have majored in..."
talk to my Japanese attorney, Sosumi.

[Anonymous No.10926903]

>>10926555
>FAKE
are you retarded?

Proptip:
1) Go to desirable companies website to see if they're hiring for your profession/specialty

2) If Yes - Send resume / cover letter to apply for advertised job if it matches your qualifications

3) They contact you for interview

4) get interview

5) get offer letter

6) reply with counter offer to make sure you get what you want

7) accept counter offer agreement. sign papers, shake hands

8) start work at new job within 2-3 weeks

9) work, collect monies

10) be ready or penis inspection day

its really not that hard

[Anonymous No.10927263]

Electrical engineer student here.
Where do I look for internships outside of what my school offers? Most of their stuff is from state positions in energy. I’m not really interested in energy, i’m more focused on communications.

[Anonymous No.10928453]

>>10926903
>3) They contact you for interview
That's the part he's calling fake on.