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it just escapes my grasp of understanding the why you give yourselves so much importance when you really aren't that much.
with maths, you stay in maths and can't ever get out, you only calculate and count numbers but nothing else, you achieved nothing except bringing financial pain and overcomplicate simple stuff.
you guys aren't even that useful, no offense but maths are rather disappointing for never achieving something in life other than counting, its not even that hard and everybody can do it.
say whatever you want, mathematicians only achieved something in their area and nothing else.
the biggest geniuses in history realized that maths amount to nothing at the end and decided to do something else, it worked.
those geniuses will always have "maths and..." but they would have never achieved something or do something if all they did was maths.
you mathfags really like to overglorify yourselves when you guys had nothing to show for it, the cherry on top being you guys having a terrible pedantic and arrogant attitude torwards everybody else and think you are the best when thats not the case.

>> No.10900694

>>10900677
>you only calculate and count numbers
nigga do you even math

>> No.10900696

>>10900677
>except bringing financial pain and overcomplicate simple stuff
You're welcome.

>> No.10900711

>>10900694
every time and every day in my daily routines.
looking at the time, cooking, waiting, taking care of plants, paying the bare minimum of taxes, etc...
everyday we do maths.

>> No.10900763

>>10900711
Even though there are some meme mathematics fields, brainlets do not understand that without math computers, phones, medicine, and all the cool shit we have know could not possibly exist.

>> No.10900774

>>10900763
>"maths and..."
maths alone wouldn't have done shit.
thats what am i saying here, its not vital or that important, just a piece, just a skill you learn.

>> No.10900776

>>10900677
I'll be frank, If you don't understand the point of math, or mathematicians, you're IQ just isn't high enough.

>> No.10900778

>>10900776
>you're IQ just isn't high enough.
just about what I expected.

>> No.10900798

>>10900711
Do you know any math beyond that? Do you realize that is just the tip of the iceberg?

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>>10900677

>> No.10900927

>>10900776
>desu you need a very high IQ to understand the point of mathematicians
>Pickle Rick

>> No.10900936

>>10900798
yes.
doing taxes ain't easy and so are many things, being economically, financially, mechanically, etc...
what I meant with that statement was simple, when its time for actions and do stuff maths come up really short.
they remain as numbers on a paper.
doing stuff is different and so is applying.
making numbers won't solve a problem, executing a action is what will or trying another method.
maths are useful at economics and finances, outside of the field of money it starts to slowly become useless.
just relying on maths only is downright retarded and useless.
mathfags don't understand that all they can do is making up numbers and count at the end of the day, they haven't really took a step-forwards like farming, mechanics, true science, medicine, etc...
it just falls short.

>> No.10901036

>>10900798
>Do you realize that is just the tip of the iceberg?
maths are just the tip of the iceberg compared to everything else desu
mathfags since their conception loved to take the credit from every single discovery
maths in real life make a insignificant if not pathetic part in the bigger and more important stuff
an architect draws a building and alongside the help of builders, miners and other workers manage to build the structure, mathfags run torwards it, pat themselves in the back and say "math made this possible, without them this wouldn't be here" when its exactly the opposite
a mathfag will never unclog the toilet, he will call a damn plumber
a mathfag will never fix a broken phone, he will go to the technician to fix it
a mathfag will never paint the house, he will call people to do it for him
a mathfag will never cook, he will go to a restaurant and eat there
maths are literally liberal arts before liberal arts and the mathfags are merely the tards who fall for that shit
correct faggot the maths starts at the tip of the iceberg and they end there

>> No.10901051

>>10900774
Literally all of it was math and some physical labor, there is nothing else. What are you talking about, brainlet?

>> No.10901053

>>10900936
>>10901036
You write like a fucking retard and you have no idea what higher math even looks like.

>> No.10901056

Why do you idiots feel the need to reply to obvious bait?

>> No.10901059

>>10900936
>doing taxes ain't easy
You might be retarded.

>> No.10901078

>>10901053
>you have no idea what higher math even looks like.
yeah, just overcomplication of a single exercise.
math starts and end inside a piece of paper, a illusion, just imaginary numbers that accomplish nothing.
in fact, by themselves, what maths had even accomplish other than counting and making up numbers and useless operations? because I am not going to make logaritmic equations to make a plant grow or change the oil of the car with a damn algebraic equation.
at the end of the day, like a parasite, maths just suck and take from others.

>> No.10901086

>>10901051
>What are you talking about, brainlet?
that math get you nowhere at the end of the day, that they are useless when its time to act.
you don't see a plumber starting to make algebraic equations when there is a broken pipe.
you don't see a music composer wondering how to get Si out of the Do Re Mi.

>> No.10901094

>>10900677
0/10 bait
but mathfags do like to overglorify themselves I'll give you that

>> No.10901104

>>10901078
>>10901086
You either are a troll, or actually have an IQ of 90.
There is no hope if it's the latter.

>> No.10901119

>>10901094
and dont forget the bad habit of taking shit from others and call it their own as if they discovered it or invented it

>> No.10901124

>>10901119
What have mathematicians "taken from others" and called their own?

>> No.10901833

>>10901124
>What have mathematicians "taken from others" and called their own?
what hasn't? no matter where you look there is always a mathfags saying that it was made possible thanks to maths

>> No.10902567

>>10901833
Obvious troll is obvious, but let me explain this to you anyway. Do you know how a computer work ?
Do you know how a GPS work ? Do you know how people compute the paths for planes to take ? Do you know how we can predict weather ? Do you know how a rocket fly ?
I mean, OP, frankly, do you really think that people just did all of those stuff without doing some maths computation at some point ? They just tried randomly and that's it ?
Probably it does not interest you, but some people want to understand a bit the law of the universe and stuff. It's called physicists. How do they modelize the universe ? Yep.
By maths.
Maths is used everyday, by a lot of engineers, physicist, biologist, economist. Most of the time it's used to do advanced statistics to proove or disproove some hypothesis. This is called the scientific method.
Maths is not a monster you know. Even to study the tiniest thing in the real world, you quiclky need some advanced maths. For example, go talk to your local engineer and good luck for understanding is electronic stuff without a minimum of knowledge in maths.

>> No.10902621

>>10900677
>>10901078
I know this a troll and obvious bait but I have to respond in case a passerby layperson sees this thread.

The understanding of imaginary numbers and logarithms are, among many other "useless things" in math, the very reason you have a fucking phone or computer on which to write your schizophrenic thoughts. They might not help you change your oil, but without them you wouldn't have a fucking car at all.
Also,
>taxes are hard
Sweet Jesus.

>> No.10902918

Narcissism.

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10902930

>>10900677
>Although this section deals entirely with linear algebra expressions, you won't find any mathematical notation here. I've found that mathematical concepts can be more readily mastered by programmers with no mathematical background if they're expressed as short Python snippets instead of mathematical equations. So we'll use Numpy code throughout.

>> No.10903065

>>10900677
>mathematicians only achieved something in their area
you could say this of any researcher in any area over the last century

>> No.10903071

>>10900677
>numbers but nothing else
That's just false though.

>> No.10903192

>>10902567
>>10902621
everybody needs a pooper thats why the invited you
party pooper
party pooper...

>> No.10903194

Pure math is a mental illness.

>> No.10903744
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10903744

>>10900677

>He thinks mathematicians work with numbers and calculate things

You're thinking of the inferior race of oompa loompas known as engineers. Also, your IQ is clearly low. Non verbal is low because of your shitpost's "muh see this in real life" content, verbal is clearly low because of the way in which that content was expressed. Stay mad, brainlet.

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10903792

>>10903744
call down anon
your wounded ego is showing
also despite him not being the sharpest tool in the shed, he brought up some good points
you don't see a mathematician being autonomous or bothering to learn new things unless is maths or closely related to maths
you don't see mathematicians bothering to learn how to fix shit or learning important skills that will come in handy later
they simply don't bother and became stagnant then they blame their shortcomings on everybody else but themselves
their ego blinds them and they think they are better than everybody else because they do maths and apply maths
they laugh and criticize at others but when its time to push come to shove they can't handle it

>> No.10903794

>>10903194
Liberal Arts at its finest.