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Here are the mean annual wages after their average tax rates in the USA with several common salaries as a comparison. These do not include bonuses or benefits.

Petroleum Engineer = $107,000
>cyclical lifestyle
-$96,000 = $8,000 per month
Physicist = $87,500
>PhD required
Computer Research Scientist = $86,000
>PhD required
-$84,000 = $7,000 per month
Computer Hardware Engineer = $81,000
Aerospace Engineer = $81,000
Economist = $81,000
>PhD required
Actuary = $81,000
>5-10 years of exams
Chemical Engineer = $79,000
Software Developers, Systems Software = $79,000
Nuclear Engineer = $77,000
Software Developer, Applications = $75,000
Mathematician = $75,000
>PhD required
-$72,000 = $6,000 per month
Electrical Engineer = $71,000
Materials Scientist = $71,000
>PhD required
Materials Engineer = $69,000
Mechanical Engineer = $66,000
Civil Engineer = $66,00
Statistician = $66,000
>MS required
Industrial Engineer = $65,000
-$60,000 = $5,000 per month
Chemist = $59,000
>PhD required
Accountant = $56,000
Registered Nurse = $54,000
Biologist = $49,000
>PhD required
-$48,000 = $4,000 per month

There are caveats with this. Scientists and Mathematicians all will require PhDs to earn such wages. Actuaries require 5+ years of intensive exams. Engineers typically have 45-50 hour weeks to earn those wages and probably earn Masters degrees. Petroleum Engineers have cyclical careers. A Statistician will require a Masters degree.

>> No.10881804

>>10881797
how the f does biologists get paid so low? isn't there a minimum pay for PhD holder?

>> No.10881812

>>10881804
That was including Wildlife Biologists, Zoologists, and Animal Scientists. The calculation for Microbiologists is $59,000, if that is comforting.

>> No.10881822
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10881822

>>10881804
>>10881812
The Biochemists and Biophysicists calculation is a healthier $75,000, but I'm not sure that a person with a bachelors degree in Biology can easily choose those areas for a PhD. I suspect Biology is so low because it is apparently highly competitive. Many people enjoy the field, I suppose, so many that they are making only about $4,000-$5,000 per month after taxes with a PhD.

>> No.10882114

This is a bit disturbing. This is the mean, so it is effectively likely what you will make in the middle of your career after taxes. Making only $65,000-$85,000 in middle age seems a bit lame, doesn't it?

>> No.10883552

>>10882114
These are great wages. You will be making more than the majority of people. Learn to save and invest. If you prove yourself a valuable employee you can easily make way above the average.

>> No.10883555

>>10883552
>If you prove yourself a valuable employee you can easily make way above the average.
More like, if you come from a good school. Else it'll forever be an excuse for your jewish boss to pay you like literal trash, even if you topped your school and then went on to do great things. He knows you won't leave because lower-tier school means fewer opportunities. Also, big companies talk to each other and contrive to make this happen. ((("Whenever you meet a candidate whose school is below rank X, *always* pay the minimum wage, that way they can't escape and we can exploit them to our hearts' contents!")))

>> No.10883561

>>10881822
Most biologists can't transfer to the biophysics side. The physics and math are rough on them.

>> No.10883563

>>10882114
In (((France))), a PhD in hard sciences can expect less than 24k a year

>> No.10883890

The calculations for doctors is saddening. They make less than everyone believes. If they pay for their own practice, including malpractice insurance premiums, along with their medical school debt, they make little until old age and they're all working 50 hours per week as well after their 80 hour weeks in residency. It isn't worthwhile at all.

>> No.10883904

>>10883555
The second you get hired where you went to school is forgotten 5 seconds later. Nobody gives single fuck where you went to school, what you majored in, or how you did. I have no idea where my immediate coworkers went to school unless it's brought up somehow in a conversation about good places to vacation or eat.

>> No.10884027

>>10883563
European countries are typically garbo in paying high-skilled workers. That's why their tech industry is non-existent and bunches of their scientist get poached by US. A Russian guy in my workplace did a PhD in Applied math for Physics, worked as SE for some US companies then ended up as a Machine Learning researcher. When asked why he worked as a SE, he said the pay was like 10 times his salary right after PhD. kek.

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10884033

>>10883563
PhD is something you should be doing because of passion, not for money

>> No.10884036

> Just look for jobs as software developer with only a Master's in physics
Didn't work so far

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10884213

>>10884036
>MS

>> No.10884216

>>10883561
most biologists literally don't know what biophysicists and biomathematicians do lol

>> No.10884244

>>10883563
That's why H1B/J1 visas are popular

>> No.10884553

>>10884033
figured out plebbitor
but then you have to get your shit together if you're not a nigger (i.e. won't benefit from affirmative action to land tenure)