biological computers

[Anonymous No.10880738]

do you think we will ever use computers grown in lab instead of ones built from silicon, metal and plastic?
how would they look like? big fat blobs of brain tissue with cables attached to it?

[Anonymous No.10880741]

>>10880738
some scientists currently grown brain organelles. Just single layer slices of brain tissue, but they help us understand the structure quite well.

[Anonymous No.10880754]

>>10880738
Why would you want to build shitty biological computers? We already have seven and a half billion of those on the planet and most of them are pretty bad at computing. I guess it would be helpful if you want to see what it's like to have a computer that doesn't behave consistently and forgets or alters most of what you try to save to it.

[Anonymous No.10880769]

>>10880738 see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_neuronal_network
I wouldn't think of it in terms of computers but animals at that point.

[Anonymous No.10880781]

>>10880738
I could see something like an organic computing module interfaced with a traditional computer. Source: my ass

[Anonymous No.10880791]

>>10880754
this. perfect explanation.

[Anonymous No.10880794]

>>10880754
Enough parallelism that it blows your tiny digital dick off

[Anonymous No.10880806]

>>10880794
You're welcome to try investing your life in a dead end meme. Could always use more stories like that waiter who had a Ph.D. in quantum computing.

[Anonymous No.10880820]

>>10880806
I want some Texas Road House rolls now

[Anonymous No.10880824]

Biologic means using 3D protein folds, won't looks like biological creatures.

[Anonymous No.10880879]

>>10880769 Maybe they get put into simulations. But likely society collapses before that and we just get cyborg cockroaches and robot antbrains. Not sure if a 1984esque warning of risks and ethical and other issues would be appropriate or just accelerate it.

[Anonymous No.10880888]

>>10880879
>society collapses before that
except it won't no matter how hard /pol/shitters want it

[Anonymous No.10880917]

>>10880888 I don't want it but just go ahead and look at the trends of climate change, pollution, water scarcity, deforestation, antibiotic resistance, economic inequality, overconsumption, various ecosystem components like insects etc. I could link you a ton of studies and news later but that would be offtopic. Just look at up yourself! We basically have 10 years to PULL the steering wheel around.
You tell me if that's what's currently happening.

[Anonymous No.10880969]

>>10880917
all those things mean nothing when you leave your basement

[Anonymous No.10881025]

I believe some simple biological computers exist in research and it's a really cool area of research, but I have not seen any advantages of using these over electronic computers. Maybe one day they will find an application.

[Anonymous No.10881030]

>>10880969 Surely none of that will matter during the next 30 years or so.

[Anonymous No.10881059]

>>10880754
Current bio processors are made by billions of years of natural selection. Engineered electronic processors are already capable of more memory and speed. What makes you think engineered bio processors wouldn't be good? They might even be cheaper.

[techguy No.10881059,1]

When science have developed a way of controlling the brain with a mobile device.. Well if you doubt it, check out this research paper

https://humanbioscience.org/2019/08/new-device-can-control-neural-circuits-using-a-tiny-brain-implant-controlled-by-a-smartphone.html

Science is going way crazy

[Anonymous No.10881999]

bumping a good thread that isn't bait
please more like these OP

[Anonymous No.10882038]

>>10880738
We've kinda already reached the CPU limit so who knows.
I don't know that much about brains and processors but I think brain has one big advantage of having synapses/neurons/whatever it's called that could connect to more than 4 other neuro things

[Trashy the Incontinent No.10882420]

>>10880754

Heresy! All citizens can assist the Imperium.

[Anonymous No.10882437]

>>10881059
>Current bio processors are made by billions of years of natural selection.
Nature wasn't trying to build efficient computational devices. Nature doesn't try to build anything.
The one definite thing we know about biological brains for sure is that they're MASSIVELY redundant. Nature isn't efficient so much as lazy. Efficiency is created through foresight. Nature has no foresight. It follows the path of least resistance at every local step, and doing this usually doesn't give you the most efficient final product.
Computers as they currently exist in contrast are planned and constructed to do exactly what they do. They don't have the incredibly limiting need to have evolved one step at a time blindly through very long spans of time where every intermediate step needs to be able to stand on its own, survive, and continue in order for all the subsequent steps to exist.
Unlike with biology, all we need is for the final step to do what we want it to do. Having all the steps along the way being capable of functioning on its own and linking with everything before and after don't help with computation. They add baggage to the process that we have no actual use for.

[Anonymous No.10882646]

I can't see use for them outside research on how the brain works

[Anonymous No.10883097]

>>10880738
>>grown in the lab
only if they're crystalline. One could grow crystals that act like cellular automata. if we make electrical computers via self assembly that might also count as being grown in a lab. As for biological computers, I am extremely doubtful. Biology is slow, noisy, can't be reprogrammed instantaneously, difficult to interface with and keep alive. Biological computers won't be general like current computers are. You won't be able to use them to play games, make presentations, or run CAD software. The applications are especially limiting because biology is noisy and slow. So this leaves us with special purpose processors. So biology might have some applications because it can learn better, but there are some pretty big disadvantages here. It may take a while to 'train' it to do what we want and it might not be possible to retrain it to do something else. One of the biggest advantages non-biological hardware has is that it can be reprogrammed more or less instantly and that you can transfer the trained networks to other pieces of hardware. And then there's the fact that it's difficult to keep cell cultures alive. It is difficult to keep said cell cultures alive for more than months. If you have a power failure or fail to feed them, your server room's gonna stink!

[Anonymous No.10884587]

bumo

[Anonymous No.10884663]

>>10880969
Holy shit you're retarded, how can you call other people /pol/ when this is textbook right wing science denial?