Is homosexuality genetic?

[Anonymous No.10858077]

[Anonymous No.10858084]

fuck no bitch

[Anonymous No.10858087]

No. It is something of the group {mental disease / cultural phenomenon / personal choice / sociological phenomenon}.

If it was genetic, it would be dead long time ago, because gays don't have biological kids.

[Anonymous No.10858088]

>>10858077
You're the expert on homosexuality, OP. You tell us.

[Anonymous No.10858098]

>>10858077
It's caused by sexual abuse in childhood.

[Anonymous No.10858101]

>>10858077
It is leftist degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.10858103]

>Is homosexuality genetic?
Fuck no

[Anonymous No.10858129]

The OP pic looks like the gay version of Willy Wonka. Who wants to visit his chocolate factory?

[Anonymous No.10858132]

>>10858077
There is a clear trend in more social mammals having more occurrences of exotic sexual behavior. Mountain goats->dolphins->bonobos->humans. More social =more gay shit
Please do not respond with a non sequitor about how animals also rape. I'm not talking about morality .

[Anonymous No.10858152]

>>10858077
Partly

[Anonymous No.10858159]

There is physiognomy which is not completely heredity. Gaydar AIgorithms are detecting a phenotype.

[Anonymous No.10858243]

>>10858159
Which may be passed as information, not the DNA sequence.

[Anonymous No.10858283]

>>10858132
Both rape and faggotry are immoral.

[Anonymous No.10858302]

>>10858087
Based.

I agree.

[Anonymous No.10858333]

No; it's possible to be a straight dude and just like the look of a nice pair of balls or admire a respectably size dick. Can any straight dude, comfortable in their masculinity, honestly say they've never seen a big juicy package and wonder what it'd feel like to be on the receiving end? Not even just absent-mindedly letting your mind wander about it?

[Anonymous No.10858342]

No; I'm straight and I can admit I just like the look of a nice pair of balls or admire a respectably size dick. Can any straight dude, comfortable in their masculinity, honestly say they've never seen a big juicy package and wonder what it'd feel like to be on the receiving end? Not even just absent-mindedly letting your mind wander about it?
Nobody in my family is gay and I'm honestly not, but sometimes I can choose to think about other guys.

[Anonymous No.10858350]

>>10858087
so genetic rng has no potential to create it spontaneously and all gay people never reproduce

[Anonymous No.10858351]

>>10858342
Tell me how I know you watch porn

[Anonymous No.10858353]

>>10858342
Low quality bait. The fish here are smarter than that.

[Anonymous No.10858384]

Current research suggests it's mostly epigenetic among males

[Anonymous No.10859053]

Homosexuality is a choice. A nearly entirely subconscious choice, but a choice nonetheless. The choice is informed by a variety of factors, and those factors can be very different from homosexual to homosexual.

[Anonymous No.10859122]

>>10858087
Based
>>10858098
No.
>>10858101
No.
>>10858342
I'm not going to label you, but that's not heterosexual behavior.
>>10859053
Probably.

[Anonymous No.10859126]

>>10858087
This.

[Anonymous No.10859398]

>>10858077
Homosexual behavior is absolutely genetic. There are some species that do it regularly and some which we have never observed it in, and there is a clear trend in social animals, even more so in social mammals specifically.
The real question:
Is exclusive lifelong homosexuality in humans genetic?
The answer is no, because no lifelong pattern of human behavior is genetic. A lifetime of decisions cannot be reduced to genetic determinism.
But just the behavior itself, independent of the extent to which is gets expressed? Of course it's genetic. It is a feature of the human animal for sure, as it is a feature of many social creatures.
That said, it does seem to make sense that the most advanced social mammal of them all is also only one to sometimes express it so severely that it wholly replaces the normal heterosexual behavior.

[Anonymous No.10860741]

>>10858087
>gays don't have biological kids
I got news for you. They fuck around and get kids faster than straight people sometimes. They do things against their own nature. Thats why its mental / genetic illness.

[Anonymous No.10860745]

>>10859398
t. Someone without proper understanding of genetics

[Anonymous No.10860746]

>>10860741
They call themself bisexual to fit in, end up with kids, until they hit their 40s, then they "realize they're gay." Its all a bunch of bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10860752]

>>10858077
>>10859398

It's epigenetic.

[Anonymous No.10860755]

>>10858077
No. If you're father is gay, and your mother is gay, chances are that you won't be.

[Anonymous No.10860796]

/pol/tards riddle me this. Why is intelligence genetic but homosexuality isn't?

[Anonymous No.10861326]

>>10858077
You are not genetically coded gay,

but you can be in a position where your genetics make it a much higher chance of you becoming gay

end

[Anonymous No.10861430]

>>10858087
interestingly enough 2000 years of Christianity ensured homosexuals reproduced at levels almost identical to heterosexuals in the west.

[Anonymous No.10861463]

genetics can make some guys cute and soft spoken and thats fine

[Anonymous No.10861501]

>>10858087
sure link me some serious studies correlating any of that

oh yeah that's right

you got none lmao !!!!

[Anonymous No.10861769]

>>10858087
Cringe
It's likely a combo of external chemicals (e.g. endochrine disruption via plastic), awareness of social conditions (perhaps overpopulation triggering non-reproductive behaviour or excess resources leading to nihilism and aberrant psychological states via some mechanism a la Calhoun), genetic mutation (most genes affect the mind, and far more mutation is floating around because of improvements in medical technology since the 19th century - particularly re: infant and childhood morality), plus an experiential/upbringing/childhood component where showing it to people, letting them around gays, and letting people do gay things is more normal. Plus there's the aspect that parents no longer look after their children and instead put children in institutions: schools, sports teams, scout troupes, where they're more vulnerable to being molested and ending up with odd sexualities assuming a clay-on-a-potter's-wheel model of sexuality where it starts off more fluid and easily affected when people are younger and hardens over time.

[Anonymous No.10861775]

>>10858087
I'll also add that the law has cucked parents of the ability to mete out deterrent justice on child molestors.

[Anonymous No.10861777]

>>10858077
If it would be solely genetic it wouldn't exist

[Anonymous No.10861981]

>>10858077
Choice is genetic.

[Anonymous No.10861990]

>>10858087
>gene makes woman love men a lot
>now son likes men a lot

[Anonymous No.10861999]

What would the world be like if every person was 100% heterosexual?

[Anonymous No.10862005]

>>10861999
if all gays were converted into their straight counterparts? we would have more incels and more degenerates impregnating wombs of every possibly creature

[Anonymous No.10862006]

>>10861777
Yes it would. You can force them to reproduce by religion

[Anonymous No.10862009]

>>10862006
The behavior predates those religions.

[Anonymous No.10862050]

>>10862009
Dogs have evolved in 20k years what humans have in 200k

[Anonymous No.10862067]

>>10862006
no you can't and your savior is a gay nigger by the way

god how i miss baiting religious cunts by the thousands

[Anonymous No.10862071]

>>10862067
he looks white there

[Anonymous No.10862075]

>>10862071
That's a shooped photo

[Anonymous No.10862101]

>>10858077
no, otherwise they'd find a link between parents and offspring.

the only science shown (since we cant dissect humans anymore) links it to brain anatomy/physiology because other mammal species behave in homosexual mating/sex when theres no reason for it, but they ignore females hormones, dont respond sexually to their pussy scent, and prefer the dick.
>>10859053
see pic

[Anonymous No.10862129]

>>10862071
>cuckanity is europian confirmed
imagine having to lie to yourself that hard day after day

in some ways i envy christians, i just wouldn't be able to do that

[Anonymous No.10862172]

>>10858098
This. Gays reproduce through child molestation.
Every single gay dude I know had some sort of early childhood sexual encounter with either an older teen or an adult man.

[Anonymous No.10862193]

>>10858087
You don't understand how biological evolution works.

[Anonymous No.10862200]

>>10858101
Please go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.10862216]

>>10862172
I'm not gay and I haven't had any sexual abuse, BUT> I fap to trannies. Checkmate

[Anonymous No.10862239]

>>10862172
>Every single gay dude I know
and every single retarded homophobe that i immediately told to fuck off but interviewed me about my penis anyway, implied that i was raped, and that i wanted to rape cute little sexy kids even though they know shit about me or my life

none of you can prove shit, not a single scientific study confirms your stupid claims, and i am still free to call jesus a gay nigger as much as i want, not a single cop will ever be able to charge me for pedophilia. or maybe i am just really good at my craft, like michael jackson who even knows right?

[Anonymous No.10862268]

>>10858087
But homosexuality occurs in other animals and from observing animals that form longterm couples such as penguins. We have seen gay penguins take in orphaned birds. This occurs in other species too and it is fair to say non-reproductive sexualities occur in order to create functioning parents for orphaned young.

[Anonymous No.10862361]

we need to make a distinction:
greek were not homos they just understood bro time
now bro time is a sin and only retard faggots betray the word of the ultimate bro: god
being gay is not even real but being retarded is.

[Anonymous No.10862378]

>>10862361
>bro time
hello faggot

[Anonymous No.10862393]

>>10862361
>greek were not homos they just understood bro time

[Anonymous No.10862452]

>>10860746
What if you don't feel attracted to men yet you hate women?

[Anonymous No.10862580]

>>10862452
Asexual

[Anonymous No.10862597]

>>10862361

Fuckin bro time lol. Like do you want gay porn? I watch porn every day and have never watched gay porn in like the 20,000 times...

[Anonymous No.10862601]

>>10862361
>>10862597

Jus sayin u might be kind of gay, but thats okay.

[Anonymous No.10862606]

>>10862597

*do u watch gay porn?

Sounds kind of gay but thats okay...

[Anonymous No.10862918]

>>10862268
pro-tip: mental illness also happens in animal. If our brains can malfunction, why can't an animals brain malfunction?

>This occurs in other species too and it is fair to say non-reproductive sexualities occur in order to create functioning parents for orphaned young.
That doesn't follow. The penguins may still have strong parenting instinct despite their homosexuality. To say that it is a species strategy to regulate its population doesn't follow as it punishes the ones predisposed to this behavior and rewards the ones without it. Even worse than ending their own gene line, it perpetuates another one, potentially without this supposed regulatory function. A better suggestion is the one proposed here
>>10861990. In this case it is just a case of a gene regulating female sexuality backfiring.

[Anonymous No.10862974]

>>10859122
homo pride and feminist movements were literally bankrolled by soviets to destabilise the west while being actively suppressed at home to protect their societies from destabilisation.

[Anonymous No.10862999]

>>10858077
no, but faggotry is

[Anonymous No.10863025]

>>10858098
Not true, stop believing /pol/ on everything.

[Anonymous No.10863034]

Why is every single society "homophobic"? You can't pin it on abrahamic religion, you can't even pin it on religion (e.g. China, african/amazonian tribes before christianity, Japan). Some people will try to pin it on european colonisation and the spread of christianity but that doesn't explain china or islamic countries.

[Anonymous No.10863040]

>>10863025
some of it is caused by childhood sexual abuse, /pol/ just overstates the numbers for their own agenda.

[Anonymous No.10863054]

>>10860796
Is this a serious question? Sexual issues are introduced as a child which lead to developmental/emotional/mental issues. You become confused. If it's not from some form of childhood abuse ("I can't help my feelings") then it is a conscious choice of hedonism. It's similar to animals in the sense that they will often times hump or rape anything. Like a dog humping your leg - it has a sexual drive to reproduce but it's not intelligent enough to be discerning and it doesn't really care so it will hump whatever. In the same way, you can be brought to orgasm by a guy or a girl, And usually sexual acts in and of themselves are arousing. So at some level if you don't find it utterly reprehensible then you're bound to be turned on and develop attraction. If there is any genetic aspect involved, it would be a detrimental genetic mutation, because it would drive you to NOT reproduce which would mean the entire gay population would slowly die off.

I think whatever started the sudden boom, population control is on someone's mind hence they are pushing the LGBT agenda and trying to get more kids confused and hence on board.

[Anonymous No.10863096]

>>10861501
http://factsaboutyouth.com/uncategorized/homosexuality-101/

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study-homosexuality-linked-with-childhood-trauma

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/is-your-child-a-prehomosexual-forecasting-adult-sexual-orientation/ (way deep down it acknowledges environmental factors mingle with genetic ones)

[Anonymous No.10863114]

>>10858098
This.

[Anonymous No.10863122]

>>10859398
>exclusive lifelong homosexuality
doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.10863131]

>>10862239
>blah blah blah
Here's your "scientific proof", boyo:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7g3u6Gg_Y2A

[Anonymous No.10863170]

>>10863025
I'm from /pol/ and I don't believe this bullshit. Don't generalize, anon.

[Anonymous No.10863189]

>>10860796
>intelligence is genetic hurr durr

[Anonymous No.10863304]

>>10863131
that's propaganda

[Anonymous No.10863323]

>>10859122
>not heterosexual
Jokes on you, same sex fantasies are common, particularly in teens. Legit 5 minutes of googling would tell you this.

[Anonymous No.10863364]

>>10863096
oh another one of those self reporting studies where for some really special reason they couldn't find any gay men and 99% of the LGBT interviewed were mentally retarded women, and in which the people who conducted it didn't say anything that resembles these retarded headlines written by journos

definitely not causation, the "correlation" is weak and bullshit, and new zealand is a piece of shit country and i would ignore it based on that anyway so fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.10863365]

>>10863323
>Legit 5 minutes of googling would tell you this.
Believing (((settled facts)))

[Anonymous No.10863366]

>>10863365
must be nice living in a world where you think people will accept cant know nuffin as a valid counter point

[Anonymous No.10863418]

>>10863304
>that's propaganda
Are you saying it's cherrypicked, or falsified with actors, or something like that? It is not.

[Anonymous No.10863538]

>>10863418
cherrypicked definitely, a handful of people doesn't represent every gay person on earth. falsified with actors maybe, they may also just be lying

the guy who made it is an anti gay activist, the video was made as propaganda, it was a desperate attempt by conservative entities to stop marriage in the US, it failed, he moved on

[Anonymous No.10863542]

>>10862597
being gay is a sin bro god is number one
>>10862601
nah im not a homo. I don't want to fuck men but if a bro sucks me off im ok with that as long as he says no homo.

[Anonymous No.10863546]

>>10858077
No, it is epigenetic. Something during childhood triggers a change in gene expression.

[Anonymous No.10863548]

>>10862239
>not a single scientific study
before I post one do you think rape is over or under reported?

[Anonymous No.10863558]

>>10863189
>intelligence isn't genetic look at my shit meme
But then.
Human intelligence is highly heritable. Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html
The scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305
Very poor Whites are about as intelligent as very wealthy Blacks. Source: http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public. Source: http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf#page=3
Black children raised in White households have similar IQ scores to Black children in Black households. Source: http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001
The average African IQ is estimated at 75. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741
The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100. Source: http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf#page=2
The White-Black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing. Source: http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa. Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
Intelligence has a 40-50% genetic basis. Source: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809
The heritability of IQ reaches .8 (80%) in later adulthood. Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html

[Anonymous No.10863571]

>>10863542
>I don't want to fuck men but if a bro sucks me off im ok with that as long as he says no homo.
cool now go to pornhub and link me to any video from the straight section of a man sucking another man

i will wait

>>10863548
>rape is over
LMAO what

definitely under reported, a lot of crime happens is goes unreported, like with weinstein, there are many such cases but linking it to faggotry is illogical

[Anonymous No.10863623]

>>10858077
well, a few decades ago it was considered a mental illness with some root in brain damage. Nowadays is a choice.

Make your own conclusions.

[Anonymous No.10863626]

>>10858077
I don't know the reason but we must kill them all.

[Anonymous No.10863641]

Homosexuality isn't real. It's an antisocial behavior disorder

-t. Kinsley

[Anonymous No.10863684]

>>10863571
>definitely under reported
I was hoping you would say that my reddit spacing fren.
>46% of male homosexuals report being molested, as compared to only 7% of heterosexual men. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501300
Given you freely admit rape is under-reported can you explain why just under 50% of homosexual males are willing to admit they were raped by another male as children?

[Anonymous No.10863777]

>>10863684
holy kek what a piece of shit study

>it was a non-clinical study and the data concerning homosexuals was gathered by setting up an interview booth at a “Gay Pride” parade while the data for heterosexuals was gathered at a college. Did the signage attracting participants at the Gay Pride parade booth ask specifically for victims of abuse who were willing to tell their story? The study does not say anything on this point – we do not know how participants were attracted.
it implied that gays don't attend college, and that everyone at the gay parade was actually gay, what a piece of trash
>contradictions between the results and their interpretation
>68% of men and 62% of women identified as homosexual before their molestation experience
>In the questionnaire given to participants, the word “molestation” is never used; “sexual contact” is used.
> Since 84% of gay men and 95% of women considered themselves gay before the “sexual contact” according to the study, could it be something less nefarious than, for example, forcible rape they were recounting?
>The American Sociological Association has criticized Dr. Cameron, stating that "Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism" and that he was kicked out of the American Psychological Association.

very /pol/ tier to drop me a link that leads me to incredible bullshit
randomly showing up at a college already reveals their intentions, schools aren't clinics, only fucking retards with an agenda do this shit, and every enabled retard to ever show in my classroom to talk about the damn homosexuals had an agenda and wanted to indoctrinate me (had to hear both gay and anti-gay bullshit btw)

https://www.wthrockmorton.com/2009/06/05/a-major-study-of-child-abuse-and-homosexuality-revisited/

[Anonymous No.10863793]

>>10863684
>people who are more open to answering questions about their sexual identity are more open to answering questions about their sexual trauma.

Holy shit dude you mega dumb.

[Anonymous No.10863800]

>>10858077
You would have to clinically concept homosexuals and make them adopted to heterosexual families to find out. This is not what science is for.

Let's say homosexuality in men is sin, and in woman it doesn't matter because if it doesn't involve penis or penis bearer it's not sex.

[Anonymous No.10863810]

>>10862268
>everything animals do is normal

[Anonymous No.10863819]

>>10863800
>Let's say homosexuality in men is sin
>Let's say
Welcome to the thread Mr. Shapiro I'm a big fan.

[Anonymous No.10863820]

>>10858342
In ancient Rome, Pompeii used to have penis sculptures everywhere, they were suppose to ward off the evil and point the sailors to the nearest brothel.
I know dicks are not very fashionable in this day and age, but I'm proud of my aesthetic dick and low hanging big balls.

[Anonymous No.10863829]

>>10863777
>gets angry
>attempts to refute peer reviewed science by linking to a Christian blog
oh no. OH NO. OH NO NO NO NO NO NO.

[Anonymous No.10863837]

>>10863793
>most gay men are raped in childhood
>NU HUH THAT'S WRONG XD XD
>is rape under or over reported
>DUUUUHHHHHH UNDER REPORTED #METOO #BELIEVEALLWOMEN
>46% of gay men say they were raped as a child. given you postulate rape is under-reported the figure is likely to be even higher.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RAPE IN THIS SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCE THAT HURTS MY WORLD VIEW IS OVER REPORTED
cut up, not across

[Anonymous No.10863845]

>>10863829
what part about the study purposely using completely skewed numbers, and Paul Cameron being kicked out of psychology for being an anti gay hack did you not understand?

how can i rephrase that so even a delusional lunatic such as yourself will be able to understand it?

[Anonymous No.10863848]

>>10863829
i didn't get those quotes from the christian blog btw
i merely pasted it there

[Anonymous No.10863853]

>>10863845
What part of you attempting to refute peer reviewed science by linking to a Christian blog are you struggling with?

[Anonymous No.10863860]

>>10858077
I don't think it's genetic. I'm homosexual and my identical twin is heterosexual.
>>10858098
That never happened to me. I know that a pretty high amount of gays were molested, but not all, so it's not the only one cause of it.
>>10858101
Politically I'm further to the right than everyone else I know combined. The mainstream LGBT community are leftists so a lot of people make the connection between homosexuality and leftism.

[Anonymous No.10863868]

>>10863860

Greg Johnson?

[Anonymous No.10863870]

>>10863853
>>10863848
the quotes were rephrased from the study YOU posted with your own hands, not from the blog. i posted the blog in case anyone wanted to read his arguments since i am not rewriting the bible here

Paul Cameron is a hack and was kicked from psychology, all his work is worthless, and i'd rank it bellow even that blog given the amount of insane bullshit

and no i don't care about his faith

[Anonymous No.10863893]

>>10863870
>was kicked from psychology
OH NO he was kicked from a pseudoscience? That definitely explains why 50% of gay men say they were raped as children.

[Anonymous No.10863903]

[Anonymous No.10863913]

>>10863893
>posts flawed study
>calls same study pseudoscience
damn i really glitched this drone

yeah man that definitely explains why 50% of gay men say they were raped as children, you posted literal sudoscience made by a certified hack. thanks

[Anonymous No.10863968]

>>10863913
Nigger ya fuming. Do you have any rebuttal to peer reviewed science other than REEEEEEing and linking to a Christian blog?

[Anonymous No.10863981]

>>10863777
>rape is ok if 5 year olds can be convinced they are gay
>sexual contact with minors is ok if a faggot does it
unironically kys

[Anonymous No.10864000]

>>10863968
>peer reviewed science
you just called it pseudo science

>Christian blog
>it was a non-clinical study and the data concerning homosexuals was gathered by setting up an interview booth at a “Gay Pride” parade while the data for heterosexuals was gathered at a college. Did the signage attracting participants at the Gay Pride parade booth ask specifically for victims of abuse who were willing to tell their story? The study does not say anything on this point – we do not know how participants were attracted.
>68% of men and 62% of women identified as homosexual before their molestation experience
>In the questionnaire given to participants, the word “molestation” is never used; “sexual contact” is used.
> Since 84% of gay men and 95% of women considered themselves gay before the “sexual contact” according to the study, could it be something less nefarious than, for example, forcible rape they were recounting?
>The American Sociological Association has criticized Dr. Cameron, stating that "Cameron has consistently misinterpreted and misrepresented sociological research on sexuality, homosexuality, and lesbianism" and that he was kicked out of the American Psychological Association.

>>10863981
>homophobe glitching out
it starts saying random shit just like that, hilarious

[Anonymous No.10864025]

>>10858087
Good be genetic but not hereditary

[Anonymous No.10864043]

>>10864000
>everyone calling me a retard is the same person
Nigger you are embarrassing yourself.
>toddlers know they are homosexual
>sexual contact with children is ok
>my source is a christian blog
>sociologists don't agree getting fucked up the ass age 9 affects you in any way

[Anonymous No.10864053]

>>10864000
Imagine trying to worm out of a peer reviwed ncbi article by crying about homophobia.

[Anonymous No.10864059]

>>10864043
ah you're talking about the blog
yeah people report to know of their same sex attraction at early ages but only being aware of its full implications during adulthood

>sexual contact with children is ok
where did this even come from

>my source is a christian blog
that is wellknown and documented i thought i was on /sci/

>According to current scientific and professional understanding, the core attractions that form the basis for adult sexual orientation typically emerge between middle childhood and early adolescence.

>sociologists don't agree getting fucked up the ass age 9 affects you in any way
it surely affects people but it doesn't turn them into faggots

>>10864053
imagine ignoring literally everything a person said and calling the day

[Anonymous No.10864062]

>>10864043
>inb4 muh christian blog
https://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation

[Anonymous No.10864071]

>>10864062
>refuting peer reviewed ncbi articles with links to a self help FAQ
the fucking state of this board

[Anonymous No.10864076]

>>10864059
>>sexual contact with children is ok
>where did this even come from
>68% of men and 62% of women identified as homosexual before their molestation experience
you realize the molestation experience reported is happening in prepubescence?
>christian blogs are valid sources if they agree with my world view
i would assume if i googled "christian blogs homosexuality immoral" that wouldn't be a valid source so you're on shaky ground here.

[Anonymous No.10864111]

>>10864071
that quote comes from a peer reviewed study:

Gilbert Herdt, PhD, Executive Director of the National Centers on Sexuality at San Francisco State University, and Martha K. McClintock, PhD, David Lee Shillinglaw Distinguished Service Professor in Psychology at the University of Chicago, stated in their study "The Magical Age of 10," published in the Dec. 2000 issue of Archives of Sexual Behavior:

"Accumulating studies from the United States over the past decade suggest that the development of sexual attraction may commence in middle childhood and achieve individual subjective recognition sometime around the age of 10. As these studies have shown, first same-sex attraction for males and females typically occurs at the mean age of 9.6 for boys and between the ages of 10 and 10.5 for girls."

>>10864076
>you realize the molestation experience reported is happening in prepubescence?
they reported to be gay before the molestation took place

>christian blogs are valid sources if they agree with my world view
it isn't source of anything, merely a critique

>that wouldn't be a valid source
neither is that study, i don't even know how it got approved

[Anonymous No.10864142]

>>10864111
>they said they were gay age 8 so its ok a fully grown man fucked them up the ass
this level of cope

[Anonymous No.10864212]

>>10864142
it is not pedo apologia, you all love to straw man studies like that and say it is pedophilia, nowhere it states that, you're literally the only person saying that those kids are gay and then projecting it onto others

in the study i was replying, they asked the participants which age they started identifying as gay, but no one identify as gay when they are children, if you look at studies like "The Magical Age of 10" (there are many like that) they all report in averages that sexual attraction (all attraction, not just same sex attraction) start as early as childhood but no where they say those children are literally gay or straight, kids aren't sexual like adults, you do feel a certain way towards girls and boys but you are yet to mature those ideas, and the study i was replying concluded saying that they were all raped as children and not as adults/teenagers, thus incongruent, that was his point stated on the "christian blog"

[Anonymous No.10864407]

Whatever it is, and whatever its origin, I don't really see peoples objection to two consenting adults doing things with each other. Especially if it harms literally nobody.

The claims about it being 'disordered' or 'unnatural' also strike me as strange. Why assign so much importance to this particular expression of deviation from the biological/sociological norm amongst the thousands of others present in everyday life?

t. homo

[Anonymous No.10864426]

>>10864407
>especially if it harms literally nobody
>spread HIV around the world so furiously it was called gay cancer
wew lad

[Anonymous No.10864435]

>>10864426

>IF it harms nobody

please read more carefully in the future. FWIW, people who willfully spread HIV through deceptive conduct should be burned alive

[Anonymous No.10864450]

>>10860796
>/pol/tards riddle me this. Why is intelligence genetic but homosexuality isn't?

Because you anti-/pol/ gene denying retard. IQ and all other measures of intelligence shows high heritability estimates. Homosexuality does not. Identical twins have nearly the same IQ, but some identical twins can turn out to be heterosexual and homosexual.

After genetics (but still influenced by genetics), the strongest thing that can influence human development are proteins and hormone exposure during the fetus stage. No doubt, homosexuality is caused by this. Unless it turns out homosexual is all 100% genetic, but its not heritable, like down syndrome.

[Anonymous No.10864478]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjPQ_jVlEnQ

Checkmate athiests

[Anonymous No.10864569]

>>10858342
fucking LOL

[Anonymous No.10864840]

>>10862239
>Cute little sexy kids
Looks like you're too far gone my good buddy.

[Anonymous No.10864859]

>>10864840
can't help i am an edgy memelord

i said much worse, if someone was being incessantly annoying i'd just agree and say yeah i do want to cook those kid in my kitchen, this is why i don't take >>10863131 seriously, i do that myself

[Anonymous No.10864897]

>>10862239
I notice you did not deny that you were molested.

[Anonymous No.10864955]

>>10864897
i could say anything back then, people weren't convinced by anything, and that is with the aggravating that i am someone who was born in the age of information so shit just is widely available, all underline science already existed during my school years, homosexuality was declassified as a disease long before i was even born, and still, they would rather take the word from hacks, religious figures, etc... they were just baseless. shit used to be pretty wild, some people would be just hateful, and others wanted to "help" me, but they couldn't even convince me that there was an issue to begin with. i remember i was once gangbanged by a group, and they just wouldn't go away because it was a "public space" and they rationalized that they could bring me back into my "normal state" by blocking my view, i just said "yeah and soon all political influence will turn against you and i wanna see you losing your mind" they laughed "oh you're such a fool, that could never happen, we are all united, bla bla bla", they though that was some kind of cringy statement and they just couldn't foresee it for their own sake, entirely clueless. basically every conversation would devolve into "you're infringing on my rights to be annoying", and the way it ends would depend on my mood

[Anonymous No.10865117]

>>10864955
Why can't you just give a random internet nigger a simple yes or no be done with it then ignore him instead of going on tldr tangents, showing off your damaged psyche

[Anonymous No.10865137]

>>10865117
that wasn't even a question

[Anonymous No.10865141]

>>10859053
It's not, bot even if it was there's nothing wrong with it

[Anonymous No.10865145]

>>10862452
Incel

[Anonymous No.10865191]

>>10862193

You neither, because evolution is just one theory amongst many. Within my lifetime, I have never observed beneficial mutations, natural selection, and the creation of novel species within existing ones, and neither has anyone else.

Text me whenever an oak tree turns into a pine tree.

[Anonymous No.10865210]

>>10865191
>whenever an oak tree turns into a pine tree
This is a creationist tier argument

[Anonymous No.10865234]

>>10863538
>"it's not true, because the filmmaker thought it was true"
Imagine if this were your response to 40 minutes of unedited video evidence. Just. Imagine.

[Anonymous No.10865345]

>>10862452
It's called sanity.

[Anonymous No.10865379]

>>10858077
It's neurological.

[Anonymous No.10865381]

>>10858283
Rape can be easily proven to be immoral. Faggotry, not so much.

[Anonymous No.10865427]

>>10858077
In all my 24 years, having interacted with hundreds of gays and have had several as close friends, i'd say it's around 80% a learned behaviour

[Anonymous No.10865636]

>>10863558
Heritability reaches 80%. You're clearly reaching when you're making that point kek.
Try not reaching and it won't reach as far

[Anonymous No.10866367]

>>10865636
Nigger ya fuming. Tell me how strong a .8 correlation is.

[Anonymous No.10866397]

>>10858077

STATE

[Anonymous No.10866461]

I searched for key words and found nothing, i looked over the thread ans saw creationist level arguments by people who don't understand evolution. So i'm gonna make my own Tl:dr.

As far as i can tell homosexuality is an unintended consequence of many mechanisms.
Let's say monkey has a gene for promiscuity, the gene makes him have more offspring than chaste competitor but one in 20 will be a faggot. In the long run he wins the race because he had more children than anyone else despite the dead ends mixed in. The fact he died early of monkey AIDS is meaningless because he would've died of anything else along the way anyways.

There is an immune thing too, it's a well documented fact that the more older brothers a man has the more likely he is to be gay, i think this has been controlled for adopted children too so you can't use the retarded idea that older brothers tend to dominate and abuse younger brothers. The idea is that the more males a woman gestates the more likely her immune system is gonna become sensitive and attack the Y chromosome and screw up the development of male characteristics.

Does this mean faggotry is completely genetic? No. If that were the case identical twins would share sexuality 100% of the time, but they do share so often that it's obvious that the genetic component is very strong.

[Anonymous No.10866481]

>>10862006
I guess that evolutionary forms of gayness would have been present before the installment of widespread oppression

[Anonymous No.10866607]

>>10863096
those are shitty articles, not studies

[Anonymous No.10866665]

>>10866461
>Let's say monkey has a gene for promiscuity...
that has been confirmed last year using 23andme data
https://ep70.eventpilot.us/web/page.php?nav=false&page=IntHtml&project=ASHG18&id=180120617

>Does this mean faggotry is completely genetic? No. If that were the case identical twins would share sexuality 100% of the time
twin studies suggest there is a link https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1845227 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8494487
and note that the likelihood is way higher for identical twins. now why isn't it 100%? until science is able to isolate every switch involved no one will know for sure, but it may just be the sheer complexity involved, it may just not kick in evenly, and those percentages are nothing to glance over because there isn't a single country that is 60% gay, not even sweden, rates usually sit around 1% to 5%, they are extremely low. that's why it is a strong case

[Anonymous No.10866669]

>>10866665
Yeah that's what i said.

[Anonymous No.10866672]

>>10866665
Adopted lab monkey.

[Anonymous No.10866906]

>>10858087
What is Hardy weinberg equilibrium
>inb4 but those conditions never occur!
It's still been observed to be pretty much valid

[Anonymous No.10866915]

>>10862172
I am gay and have had no sexual trauma as a child
Lost my virginity at 19, had no sexual experience prior to that

[Anonymous No.10866949]

>>10858087
Could still be hereditary, since in the past many men had to live a normal life (wife and kids) along with their homosexual one to avoid suspicion.

[Anonymous No.10866956]

>>10866915
In b4 some dumb freudian motherfucker says you were molested but have suppressed memories.

[Anonymous No.10866993]

>>10866915
You were molested but you have suppressed memories
>>10866956
;^)

[Anonymous No.10867019]

>>10858087 >>10858103

y'all don't know about the 'uncle' hypothesis or w/e it's called, which states that gay 'uncles' or other gay caregivers would improve the chances of the offspring they cared about surviving to adulthood by taking care of them.

as being gay is by no means a monogenetic trait, this means that alleles of genes relevant to homosexuality could be carried in a population latently via other people's children that gay people were/are related to

[Anonymous No.10867471]

>>10860741
its suprising how many trans people reproduce

[Anonymous No.10867477]

>>10858077
its an infection, once you get injected with gay bacteria in your gut, ur gay.

[Anonymous No.10867478]

>>10858077
Maybe, but who cares? Only /pol/tards do.

[Anonymous No.10867506]

>>10866397

ENFORCED

[Anonymous No.10867582]

>>10864426
Technically it was the bifags and blood donors who really spread it around.

[Anonymous No.10867587]

>>10858087
If you inject estrogen into male mice at critical development point they will turn out male but will follow female behavioral patterns. Some evidence that their brains resemble female brains more than male brains too. So you tell me

[Anonymous No.10867886]

>>10866367
That's the maximum correlation if you REACH