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Can we have a legitimate discussion on the IQ gap?

>> No.10856569

>>10856563
Yes, equality opportunity programs need to get their budgets expanded x30, at least.

>> No.10856575

>>10856569
Or divert resources into those who are more capable

>> No.10856580

we are different species, evolution does not create equals. simple as

>> No.10856590
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>>10856563
We've already debunked it, check the archives I guess

>> No.10856597

>>10856590
>We made excuses

>Debunked

Try again. The gap persists at every socio-economic level

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>>10856563
Again?

>> No.10856709

>>10856563
Whenever these sort of graphics come up white Americans seems to average around 105-110 while Europeans average around 100, why would that be?

>> No.10856717

>>10856709
Slavs got fucked by Stalin he killed anyone smart enough to disown communism

>> No.10856718

>>10856563
No, we can't.
Sorry.

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>>10856717
Yeah, Stalin really kicked Europe's ass, Yugoslavia is feeling the tremors even now

>> No.10856727

>>10856718
>we
cringe

>> No.10856731

>>10856727
>muh anoneemos indevidgual
have sex

>> No.10856732

>>10856731
dilate

>> No.10856737

>>10856726
>Stalin really kicked Europe's ass,
He had more of a lasting effect than Hitler. by a large margin.

>> No.10856917

>>10856580
>evolution does not create equals
this. this is the simple truth of life

>> No.10856924

>>10856731
go back faggot

>> No.10856925

>>10856924
>faggot
Why the homophobia?

>> No.10856928

>>10856563
I'm pretty sure that's a fake study. There are hundreds of serious studies from different researchers finds that intelligence is genetic and environmental factors does minimal effect on it.
I'm also pretty sure that nutrition affects it much more than parenting.
so give the source, how many families were surveyed? what was the method used to pick candidates etc.

>> No.10856935

>>10856563
Can we stop with the pointless IQ threads already??

>> No.10856940

>>10856563
The average IQ in Ireland is 91. How do we become big brains :(? Hlp

>> No.10856962

>>10856925
>homophobia
dislike of faggots does not equal fear

>> No.10856964 [DELETED] 

>>10856935
>pointless IQ threads
T. Negro

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>>10856935

>> No.10857077

>>10856597
More than that the gap is largest on the more g-loaded subtests of IQ, showing that the difference is on g not on socio-economic factors.

This really shouldnt be a difficult thing to grasp at this point.

>> No.10857084

>>10856563

theres no such thing as i.q., racist.

>> No.10857124

>>10856575
Why would you do that? Capable people don't need resources that's why they're capable in the first place.

>> No.10857133

>>10857124
He's incapable, but not getting any of the resources, and he wants to pretend that it's because he's capable that he's not getting resources.
Anyone with a brain doesn't whine and cry when others are given a little more than them.

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>>10856563
The first three sentences in your image are straight up lies. Fuck you.

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>>10856563
Intelligence is a highly polygenic triat. Polygenic traits cliuster like this. Different clusters having different average intelligence is what we would expect.

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the implications are bad if you realize that low IQ groups have higher fertility rate

>> No.10857174

>>10857153

all those africans will be heading to europe.

>> No.10857241

>>10857174
They have to, it’ll be the only habitable area in 2100

>> No.10857256

>>10857241
Plenty of room in Canada and Russia.

>> No.10857258

>>10857256
Yeah those places are good too. I guess we’ll all be fine

>> No.10857264

>>10857241

europeans arent having kids. africans are having plenty and are already flowing into europe. it seems pretty obvious that europe will be the future africa.

>> No.10857271

>>10857264
Yeah it has to. Someone has to continue the human race if others won’t or if artfucusl wombs aren’t created. Why should Europe stay empty when it’ll be the only habitable area along with Canada and Russia

>> No.10857281

>>10857258
It will be an enormous hardship for everyone to do that mass migration and establish vast infrastructure/agriculture from scratch.

>> No.10857284

>>10857271

its going to be like a repeat of homo sapiens and neanderthals with europeans just existing as a small percentage of future africans genomes.

>> No.10857290

>>10857284
We’ll it has to happen, someone has to pick up the slack

>> No.10857308

>>10857281
Good thing we can prepare for it

>> No.10857312

>>10857290

still it will be sad to see the end of western civilization. it arguably brought about the modern world.

>> No.10857322

>>10857312
No such thing as western civilisation. All countries are arguably the same with varying levels of money and living standards.

>> No.10857334

>>10857322
>All countries are arguably the same

you cant deny the industrial revolution begining in western europe having massive flow on influence on the rest of the world.

>> No.10857335

>>10857334
Yes and it created climate change which is going to force everyone to migrate north. Self defeating.
The world owes Britain nothing.

>> No.10857349

>>10857335

industrial revolution brought much more than just climate change. i was talking more broadly about western civilization and all the massive scientific and other benefits its brought the world. anyway britain isnt forcing india and china to burn fossil fuels. theyre the biggest modern polluters arent they?

>> No.10857350

>>10857308
It would be cheaper to push a transition to renewable energy and keep warming below 2°C.

>> No.10857358

>>10857349
>theyre the biggest modern polluters arent they?
Because Western countries have outsourced their manufacturing.

>> No.10857363

>>10857349
I don’t give a shit. I’m not here to cry about something like that you little bitch. No such thing as western civilisation in this world now. I’ve been to a great many countries and they’re all the same when you have money.
You must be a rural suburban retard, don’t reply to me bitch.

>> No.10857365

>>10857358

so is it the wests fault they are polluting? are they not responsible for their own actions?

>> No.10857374

>>10857365
>so is it the wests fault they are polluting?
Sure. If we manufactured our own stuff, we would be the polluters instead. Companies should take responsibility for who is manufacturing their stuff.

>> No.10857389

>>10857365
The buyer is always responsible for funding the production of the product. The west buys from them. Don’t buy anything from them then.

>> No.10857403

>>10857389
Nope, fuck that. Nobody is able to research the entire production lifecycle of everything they consume. Simple regulation could put the responsibility on companies to limit the carbon in their manufacturing process.

>> No.10857564

>>10857153
Literally the Great Filter.

>> No.10857809

"(1) According to the old anthropological tradition big human morphological variations which are the result of polymorphism united by common origin in certain geographical areas had been given the name »races.«
(2) Reality of the racial subdivisions of Homo sapiens are supported by the totality of the scientific data investigated on the different levels of human organism: morphological, physiological and genetical. Racial classification created with regard for morphological criteria clearly enough reflect the phylogeny of the separate populations and groups of populations.
(3) Negativism to the race concept which became apparent during the last decades, in many respects might be explained by the psychological shock which all progressive humanity had felt in the epoch of Hitlerism."

- Conclusion of 1998 Moscow conference on race.


How long until """progressive humanity""" stops being children and admits Hitler was right?

>> No.10857841

>>10857809
I'd be super impressed if you just made all that up on the spot, so feel free to confess to it.

But all of my Googling says none of that exists whatsoever....

>> No.10857906

>>10857841
Wow you GOOGLED it and nothing came up?
If that isn't evidence it doesn't exist I don't know what is. Especially something related to race, they would definitely bring that up if it existed.

http://hrcak.srce.hr/file/8770

>> No.10858066

>>10857809
>>10857906
I see where you decided to stop quoting. Add this on to the end of point (3):

The in-
terest in racial analysis was lost and fo-
cus of attention of the physical anthropo-
logical investigations was concentrated
on the genetic structures and genetic
markers. The result we can see on the po-
pular level and in scientific meetings is a
substitution or mixing of such concepts as
race, ethnos, nation, language, culture
has taken place that actually is very dan-
gerous because it results in the different
pseudo-scientific insinuations.

They're literally saying race is just looks, and has nothing to do with genetic clustering. Trying to tie race beyond physical morphology, to ethnicity, nation, language, culture, is pseudo-science.

>> No.10858446

>>10858066
That's not what that passage is saying but ok

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>another IQ thread