Neural Link

[Anonymous No.10835060]

redpill me on this kind of technology will it really be possible within the next 10 years?....... or is Elon full of shit?

[Anonymous No.10835068]

>>10835060
it won’t be possible, much less mainstream tech, for about 80 years. it’s just a sao meme for now.

[Anonymous No.10835080]

>>10835060
You can already control computers with your brain using electrodes. neurolink is just trying to make a a better version of what you can already buy.

[Anonymous No.10835121]

>>10835060
Look what he is claiming they can do now is not difficult. They could put the electrodes in your brain tomorrow.

People will start getting these implants even if, EVEN IF, there are complications and/or lifespan reduction. They will get them because without one they are nothing but a fuckin vegetable.

These guys are only tapping into the motor center of the brain. For now. Once they have antennae farms inside peoples brains the potential for unlocking its secrets become reality.

So people with retarded motor function will be getting neuralink implants. Within ten years they hope to be able to make some of the first cases public. That's what is being said.

If you want the matrix you will be waiting decades more.

[Anonymous No.10835200]

So far, the actual practical application of this, outside of maybe helping someone severely disabled, is a bit questionable. It's like google glass is pretty cool in theory, but in practice, it's never gonna take off.
People use tech that makes their life easier, not gadgets that only add additional hassle to keep them running in case you need them.

I don't see any of these brain interface devices taking off, until they're good enough so you can use such a device to say, go online, instead of having to use a computer/phone and at the same time, pose no health risk or hassle with maintenance.

[Anonymous No.10835224]

>>10835068
It's been possible since 2008 though.
https://youtu.be/TJJPbpHoPWo

[Anonymous No.10835225]

>>10835200
Google Glass would have taken off if it launched right now. When it launched people still got mad for being filmed in public. Now with live streamers and everything people are getting used to it. Google glass wouldn't have been seen as obnoxious now as back then.

[Anonymous No.10835230]

>>10835060
It was possible 11 years ago. He's just making a newer version with 10,000 electrodes instead of 100 electrodes like the 2008 version.

It's like having a computer chip from 1990 and saying do you really think it's possible to have a chip 100x faster than this in 2019?

[Anonymous No.10835233]

>>10835060
>will it really be possible within the next 10 years?
No

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/neural-augs-are-hard/

[Anonymous No.10835419]

>>10835060
In 10 years you'll probably have disabled people using it to power their chairs or even exoskeleton type devices. That's it.

[Anonymous No.10835464]

I just want a headband that let's me control keyboard and mouse functions with my mind.

[Anonymous No.10835500]

>>10835419
That has been done since 2008. This is more about it being a two-way connection so that you can "download" shit into your brain.

[Anonymous No.10835504]

>>10835060
I'm getting seriously tired of this attention whore, taking working technologies and "improving" them under the Elon brand, to sell them to sheep. For a guy that named his company Tesla, he sure acts a whole lot like Edison.

[Anonymous No.10835512]

>>10835060
It'll work as good as the Starhopper.

[Anonymous No.10835572]

>>10835060
Pretty sure this is how Borg started.

[Anonymous No.10835573]

>>10835512
better than expected boundaries? oh ok

[Anonymous No.10835590]

Isse

[Anonymous No.10835627]

>>10835060
Absolutely:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wxIgdOlT2cY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cZn46l7uEKg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UJ_rFMYDbAE
https://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/medical-robots/monkeys-control-computer-with-thought
It might even get tested in humans within the next year. Here's the redpill though, while it will be possible, there is not a snowball's chance in hell the FDA is going to approve installing one as an elective procedure. So you're not getting one.

[Anonymous No.10835631]

>>10835504
Tesla and Edison both ripped off people by taking their inventions marketing them and then selling them to the public. Edison was just slightly better at it.

I hate how Tesla is now some cult personality while almost no one talks about how he ripped off the engineers he worked with and had patented ideas under his own name that was actually a team effort.

He even went mad with guilt later in his life as one of his colleagues and old friends he scammed committed suicide due to it.

[Anonymous No.10835641]

>>10835230
>It was possible 11 years ago. He's just making a newer version with 10,000 electrodes instead of 100 electrodes like the 2008 version.

Quoted for truth.

Neuralink is just a bunch of electrodes in the brain. The main advancement of Neuralink is increasing the number of electrodes by several orders of magnitude, miniaturizing them, designing a robot that can easily and non-invasively implant them, and then using machine learning to make sense of the vast amounts of data they produce.

Neuralink is a plausible and significant advance in the field, if a bit optimistic.

[Anonymous No.10835644]

>>10835641
>>non-invasively
it's pretty goddamn invasive anon.

[Anonymous No.10835658]

>>10835644
Noninvasively as opposed to legacy electrode implantation methods. Neuralink electrodes are tiny and actively guided to avoid blood vessels.

[Anonymous No.10835698]

>>10835658
anon, it is still the very definition of invasive.

[Anonymous No.10836468]

>>10835644
The procedure can be done under local anaesthetic. Very little of the skull is removed.

>>10835631
He's sitting on a bunch of ideas that aren't his right now and he isn't using them. So far.

He's a flawed egotistical human. I still support him for pushing boundaries quickly. Seems as soon as a company is swallowed by your grandpas super fund it turns to garbage.

[Anonymous No.10836476]

>>10835060
here's the big enchilada OP, let me give you a basic gestalt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NVsyMalJXo

[Anonymous No.10836479]

I want it now. To replace my military service worn out body.

[Anonymous No.10836480]

>>10835060
it will allow you to move a wheelchair forward and backward

[Anonymous No.10836667]

>>10836480
Did you not see the monkey videos?
>>10835627

[Anonymous No.10836680]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35QvyaRn6OY&t=4112s

[Anonymous No.10836686]

Must watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35QvyaRn6OY&t

[Anonymous No.10836694]

>>10836476
Ugh. This fake stuff again.

[Anonymous No.10836888]

Neuralink is fucking retarded.
What's the point of using this shit unless you're disabled and can't do anything else?

Its like strapping yourself into a steven hawking chair just because its newer than a keyboard.
Doesn't mean its better.

I'm a big fan of spacex and i like what tesla is doing by making electric cars less gay but every other musk project is just retarded.

[Anonymous No.10836909]

>>10835060
I will be able to ghost hack OP's and make them wander into traffic smeared in their own shit.

[Anonymous No.10837072]

>>10836888
Being able to shitpost and fap with both hands at the same time. Eventually, doing math too complicated for regular humans to understand. We aren't there yet.

[Anonymous No.10837288]

>>10835060
I WANT NEURAL LINK
NOW
NOW
NOW

[Anonymous No.10837292]

>>10837288
You'll have to
WAIT
WAIT
WAIT
until it gets FDA approved.

[Anonymous No.10837319]

Sorry, I only use GNU GPL neural implants certified by the FSF.

[Anonymous No.10837633]

>>10836888
Baby steps, have you hear of it?

[Anonymous No.10837646]

>>10835060
Yes.
Also yes.

[Anonymous No.10837685]

It's a bit frightening but I find this avenue of research really interesting. I would get the 2nd version of this tech. I'd want people to have had them for at least a few years ot make sure they won't give you cancer.

[Anonymous No.10837707]

>>10835060
Its not a meme, but the technology is still really basic. Elons sales pitch was asking for job applications from people who want to create brain computer interfaces.
Personally, the electrodes implanted in the brain are a pretty big stumbling block for most people. However, they do offer medical possibilities for certain people who have few other options. Ultimately any implanted nonorganic material in the brain is going to cause issues.

[Anonymous No.10837711]

>>10835060
It will be possible at some point. That's clear. But Elon seems to want to rush everything before he dies. Pay close attention to the amount of time that elapsed between the Copernican revolution and the moon landings: a buttload.

[Anonymous No.10838275]

I'm worried that when this become possible/mainstream we will still not have regulatory agency or government capable of keeping giant companies like Facebook from gathering & selling any data obtained this way.

We are going straight into a world where cyberbrain will make you an artificially-willing vassal of a megacorporation, with more people fighting against any democratic attempt to regulate it (in the name of freedom) than fighting against Megacorp.inc ability to effectively control how we live.

WELCOME TO LIFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFe9wiDfb0E

[Anonymous No.10838278]

>>10838275

[Anonymous No.10838290]

>>10835200
Microsoft halo > Google glass

Halo is a true AR device. Halo is a tiny android phone in front of your eye.

[Anonymous No.10838312]

>>10836888
>What's the point of using this shit unless you're disabled and can't do anything else?

We will be. Plausible lifespan of an average human brain is several hundred years. It is usually some crucial part in the rest of the body that shits the bed, and drags the brain six feet under with it.

Sooner or later we will all end up like brains in a vat, interfacing with the word through neuralink.

[Anonymous No.10838322]

>>10838312
brain.exe is corrupt mcafee has found itself entitled to deleting it

[Anonymous No.10838325]

>>10838312
>brains in a vat
is this even possible?

[Anonymous No.10838424]

>>10838322
>Try to open door with implant
>More security holes than windows 9x since nobody wants to pay for good software and your brain is now directly connected to your phone through bluetooth
>Barely have time to say "MC Ride predicted this" before needful.exe is downloaded directly into my brain giving me a grand mal seizure as I'm bombarded by adware and cryptolockers
>Put into an eternal coma so my brain power can be used to mine cryptocurrency and DoS websites
E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy warned us
We didn't listen

[Anonymous No.10838451]

>>10837319
Based

[Anonymous No.10838455]

>>10837711
>But Elon seems to want to rush everything before he dies.
>Implying he plans on dying
He plans on using this Neural Link to upload his mind within the framework of Open AI, and save copies deep underground with the Boring Tech, and in electrical solar based satellites Tesla satellites that he will use the SpaceX rockets to launch the backups of his mind all over the solar system. You might think there's no link to his various projects, but they're all a part of a deep architectural mastermind plan for immortality.

[Anonymous No.10838466]

>>10838455
>He plans on using this Neural Link to upload his mind within the framework of Open AI,
You really think that can be achieved in just 30+ years?

[Anonymous No.10838470]

>>10838466
If we reach quantum supremacy, which experts claim could happen this year, then yes.

[Anonymous No.10838497]

>>10838470
The quantum supremacy we can achieve this year is only for noisy quantum circuits doing a useless task. We don't know if this type of noisy quantum computing is useful for anything.

[Anonymous No.10838535]

>>10838497
>What is Shor's algorithm

[Anonymous No.10838873]

>>10837288
>I WANT NEURAL LINK
>NOW
>NOW
>NOW

Dude!?
Do you know what the long term effects of these things in the brain are?
For all we know they could greatly increases chances of brain tumors, cancers, strokes, etc.

It sounds like a great idea for people with neurological damage.

Give it 20 years, THEN perhaps, maybe, it might be worth considering.

[Anonymous No.10839449]

>>10838535
An algorithm that cannot be run with noisy quantum computing. Quantum computers capable of running Shor's algorithm are DECADES away.

[Anonymous No.10839482]

>>10838873
Whats even the point, if neurons fire on specific paths that can be quantified into usable and repeated data, wouldn't the magnitude of the (presumably) slight em waves be usable too. I remember there was some sort of sensor that worked on this basis. I'd rather have some sort of

[Anonymous No.10840184]

>>10835060
>10 years
do we even have a timeline from elon regarding neuralink?

>>10835627
>there is not a snowball's chance in hell the FDA is going to approve installing one as an elective procedure
just go to another country to get the procedure. people do it all the time.

[Anonymous No.10840702]

>>10835698
>your grandpas super fund it turns to garbage.
Yes, as much as bernie constantly screaming about muh corrupt banks is its not a meme.

[Anonymous No.10840845]

>Neural Cringe

[Anonymous No.10841332]

Getting it for my pets tho. I can finally talk to my dog.

[Anonymous No.10841399]

>>10835060
>or is Elon full of shit?
You got it.

[Anonymous No.10841430]

How useful would an EEG + ML setup be?

[Anonymous No.10841470]

>>10835200
Google Glass was just launched way too early in the development cycle and the product looked extremely unfashionable. In a few years, the size of the hardware will decrease so much that you’ll be able to buy a pair that look Identical to normal glasses

[Anonymous No.10841603]

There is a very simple rule of thumb to use when evaluating something like this.

Until Elon installs one into his own brain, its a worthless piece of junk.

[Anonymous No.10841618]

>>10841430
Shit. Absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.10841626]

>>10838470
>If we reach quantum supremacy
anon...

[Anonymous No.10841642]

>>10838470
>>10838497
>>10841626
stop using problematic language, incels
https://arxiv.org/abs/1705.06768