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Would it be scientifically worthwhile to clone Neanderthals to study (if it were possible of course)?

>> No.10817238

>MUH ETHICS

>> No.10817242

>>10817238
not cloning them would be murder since you're snuffing out their right to exist

>> No.10817255

>>10817237
Problem is they are ugly, and its all about appearances, cloning ugly people will not win the project and the scientists any support from the public. And if public dont care or dont like it then funding such project becomes very difficult.

>> No.10817263

OF COURSE IT WOULD BE

We're smarter than them despite having a smaller brain. It would be great to see how we differ neurologically

>> No.10817265

>>10817237
If I was a mad scientist with infinite resources I'd try to back breed them from modern humans as opposed to cloning.

>> No.10817279
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>>10817265
You can't. Humans only contain 20% of their genome collectively.

>> No.10817283

Nope. Because then we would learn of Neanderthal supremacy.

>> No.10817285

how big are neanderthal tits?

>> No.10817287

>>10817279
so what if you just concentrated all of that 20% in one person?

>> No.10817290
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>>10817265
You are too late, its been done already.

>> No.10817291
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10817291

>200 genes differ between neanderthal and human brains
>put 1 neadner gene in a human neuron
>it differs by only 1 SNP
>they grow lumpy, as opposed to the smooth human neural clumps, because some neurons multiplied faster than others
>they have less synaptic connections than the human ones

https://www.livescience.com/62916-mini-neanderthal-brains.html

>> No.10817293

parts of the neanderthal genome are still being purged for superior variant supposedly we inherited an inbreeding load from them.

>> No.10817296

>>10817287
Would be interesting, but the tissues where we differ the most in terms of genetic expression are in the brain and testicles. This hybrid would be far from a real neanderthal.

>> No.10817299

jews are living neanderthals. White people are cromagnon.

>> No.10817304

>>10817290
Body built like a fridge.

>> No.10817309

>>10817299
It's Homo Sapien.

>> No.10817316

>>10817255
>Problem is they are ugly,
They also sounded like retards.

>> No.10817351

>>10817309
Europeans are hybrids of H. sapiens and h.Neanderthal, possibly with some other admixtures. The only real H. sapiens left are south of Sahara.

>> No.10817369

>>10817351
Nope. Sub-Saharans are mixed with another Hominid as well. Possibly multiple.

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>>10817369
Probably Homo Erectus

>> No.10817393

>>10817387
No evidence of that.

>> No.10817467

>>10817296
What areas of the genome have been conserved and possibly selected for in modern non africans?

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>>10817290
Yarp?

>> No.10817492

>>10817483
based hot fuzz poster

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>>10817290
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev

>> No.10817674

>>10817467
A bunch of uninteresting shit like metabolism, skin and hair composition, susceptibility to depression, immune system

>> No.10817741

>>10817674
these seem like environmental adaptations directly affected by the conditions, I assume fat deposition is another trait?

>> No.10817997

>>10817237
>Would it be scientifically worthwhile to clone Neanderthals to study (if it were possible of course)?
Why don't you try it and find out?

>> No.10818057

>>10817741
Yes. That gene is most common in native americans. 50% of them have it. That's why tribal brazilians never look shreded, but australian abos do. It also contributes to why mexicans are prone to diabetes.

>> No.10818063

>>10817237
Neanderthals aren't real, so no.

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>>10817242
>tfw you’re murdering thousands of sentient beings by not having sex and impregnating someone literally every second

>> No.10818259

>>10818057
Citation:

>SLC16A11 may be involved in the transport of an unknown metabolite that affects fat levels in cells and thereby increases risk of type 2 diabetes.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/12/131226115346.htm

>> No.10818262

>>10817237
true

>> No.10819032

>>10818259
so my random speculation about cold climate adaptations proved to be right...

I have never seen a shredded abo before

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>>10818072
>mfw

>> No.10819179

>>10817237
Absolutely, you bet. The only problem is the ethical side though.

>> No.10819535

>>10817255
They are only recobstructed to look ugly, we only have little idea what they looked like, I have personally no idea why the restorations use such horrible skin.

>> No.10819543

>>10817741
>>10818057
>>10818259
Could be poor handling of some nutrient, such as magnesium.

>> No.10819614

Neanderthals live among humans. Most of them are in Russia though.

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>>10819032

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>>10819535
I dislike how they are given modern facial features. No doubt because most people don't know what the flesh of a primitive person looked like. But I'm sure they would have look a lot more like this.

>> No.10820097

>>10817513
Yes, acromegaly, text book example. Not restricted to Neanderthals.

>> No.10820395

>>10820097
That skull morphology is not a characteristic of acromegaly.

>> No.10820421

>>10817255
They can't possibly be uglier than Aussie Abos m8.

>> No.10820436

>>10820421
Sup you at Sydney mate?

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>>10820421
wanna bet on it?

>> No.10820828

>>10820020
I wouldn't be so sure; in fact it seems quite probable the aquilian nose was inherited from the neanderthals.

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>>10820828
Even abos have forward facing nostrils. It seems to be a primitive trait.

>> No.10820980

>>10817291
>https://www.livescience.com/62916-mini-neanderthal-brains.html
Interesting, thanks anon

>> No.10821087

>>10820901
abos aren't primitive

>> No.10821089

>>10817255
Look like models compared to Abos so no they aint ugly.

>> No.10821101
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>>10817263
>We're smarter than them despite having a smaller brain.
[citation needed]

>> No.10821293

>>10817237
The sapes are afraid to face their superior brethren.

>> No.10821589

>>10817290
Far too tall to be a neanderthal.

>> No.10821631

could someone read these and find a decent image
It's quite interesting research and they think they've found 3 other admixture populations in asia not just the denisovans ands neanderthals
also they've found a 160,000 year old triple rooted tooth that is still common in asians
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190715094918.htm
https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/07/11/1904824116
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190708154036.htm

>> No.10821633

>>10821631
*image to make a thread with?

>> No.10821640

>>10817237
Looking More attractive than many women so far I have met.
But then again, it's a woman, so she might be a neandercunt.

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>>10821101

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>> No.10822157

>>10821980
One of many reasons to believe we didn't evolve from either of those two.

>> No.10822242

>>10822157
Then who did we evolve from?

>> No.10822274

>>10822242
H. naledi seems like the likely closest known ancestor.

>> No.10822285

>>10822274
>in 2017 the fossils were dated close to 250,000 years ago,[4] and thus contemporary with larger-brained anatomically modern humans, Neanderthals, and Denisovans.[1] The research team therefore thinks that H. naledi is not a direct ancestor of modern humans, but probably an offshoot within the genus Homo.[5]

>> No.10822394

>>10817290

Has someone done a genetic study of this guy?

He's got to be at least 50% Neanderthaal...

>> No.10822456

>>10821980
but which race of human is it? some are closer some are more different.

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>>10822456
Neanderthals diverged from us 800,000 years ago. Eurasians diverged from africans 70,000 years ago

>> No.10822569

>>10822476
supposedly the bushmen diverged 200,000 years ago

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