How would you transfer qualia from the brain to a machine?

[Anonymous No.10815921]

>Replace each neuron one by one?
>Just use more advanced lace technology to stimulate existing neurons in specific ways to build new desired pathways within the brain?

All machines will do is stimulate neurons, they can't cut/paste qualia.

I don't see how it's even possible "I" can experience a machine when "I" am the feeling of neurons being stimulated not transistors or other material combinations. The substrate would be different, the "I" that is the feeling of thoughts which is the feeling of neurons being stimulated would slowly die if you replace neurons with the same informational equivalent using a different substrate, if you destroy the neurons the "I" wouldn't even realize it was dying any more than an Alzheimers or patient feels their neurons dying.


Wouldn't we have already seen some informational "bleed" when these previous bmi's were hooked up? Wouldn't we already have noticed that some of the persons conscious experience "bleeds" over to the computer chip that is stimulating the brain? It doesn't feel like anything to be a transistor from a human experince. If consciousness is only information, wouldn't any transfer of information be consciousness? Instead what we find is that all we can really do is use very precise stimulation but nothing using transistors "plugs in" to the brain.

Thoughts? I hope I'm wrong.

[Solivagus No.10815942]

Handshake and a smile is how Integran always do it. Should work for any human.

[Anonymous No.10815984]

Interaction paradox disproves qualia.

[Anonymous No.10815985]

There is a way to create analog computers. But I definitely interact transistor to brain. So straight. It must be superhighspeed reader, and output is a keyboard.

For neuron it must be really hard to learn to activate transistor, and how layers on transistor stack if you burn it, it must be really heard.

If you test that on cat, it may be different.

[Anonymous No.10815989]

>>10815984
Neuron designed neurons to make a transistor representation of something that call itself qualia but is binary?

Binary could be more precise...

[Anonymous No.10816234]

>>10815984
What is the interaction paradox?

[Anonymous No.10816243]

>>10815921
you don’t because qualia don’t exist and you can’t decouple the brain’s activity from its biological substrate

[Anonymous No.10816257]

>>10815984
>Interaction paradox disproves qualia.
What the hell did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.10816258]

>>10816243
>qualia don’t exist
What do you mean? You mean the sensation of pain doesn’t exist?

[Anonymous No.10816272]

>>10815921
Qualia doesn't exist because it is undefinable onto language game, and only can make sense by private language

[Anonymous No.10816277]

>>10816272
Qualia precedes language, Wittgentard

[Anonymous No.10816293]

>>10815921
>Moot was such a faggot that he never made a /phi/ board
Your thread doesn't belong on /sci/ because qualia is a philosophical concept.
As an atheist you're supposed to argue against the existence of qualia and for stupid ideas like "brain tricks itself XD".
Also stop using quotes for emphasis. It's annoying.

[Anonymous No.10816299]

>>10816258
where is the sense of pain happening and what do you think distinguishes something you don’t have a sense of from things you merely sense or do or are processing unconsciously? Doesn’t seem like where the language stops is where the thinking stops or even that the easily described “sense of” something is richer or more advanced cognition than things that aren’t amenable to that kind of verbalizing.

[Anonymous No.10816315]

>>10816299
>where is the sense of pain happening
No idea.
>what do you think distinguishes something you don’t have a sense of from things you merely sense or do or are processing unconsciously
No idea what you mean by “merely sense”.

[Anonymous No.10816317]

>>10816293
Yes it does, fuck off

[Anonymous No.10816318]

Do you prefer a USB or wireless mouse?

[Anonymous No.10816331]

>>10816317
What does what?

[Anonymous No.10816341]

>>10816318
What kind of storage capacity does it have? Can I store music on it?

[Anonymous No.10817636]

What mindfucks me is that neurons arw really fucking complicated so which bit is the important bit for consciousness?

[Anonymous No.10817669]

>>10817636
>so which bit is the important bit for consciousness?
All of them.

[Anonymous No.10817672]

>>10815921
Qualia = units of experience. Experiences are basically short term memory buffer that draw from past recollection and present sensory information to form new derivatives.

[Anonymous No.10817683]

*blocks your path*