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Veterans Affairs Administration Edition

Old thread hit bump limit.
>>10798113

We discuss research, offer advice (the best one is to see your family physician), make fun of premeds and shitpost. Please keep vaccination/clamping/vitamin K out of this thread and start your own because it takes a lot of space.

>What's the best spec for research?
Path, onc, anesthesia, etc.
>Best spec lifestyle wise?
Psych, optho, derm, rads
>Chat?
https://matrix.to/#/#med:halogen.city

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>tfw no evidence based gf

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>>10810252
Here in the US, they clamp our umbilical cords before the completion of placental transfusion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30473033
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30278462
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30193752
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30598672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29101631
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30208504

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27654493

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30355293

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>>10810258
>tfw no evidence based anything

>> No.10810264

>>10810252

>research
EM

>lifestyle
Also EM

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>tfw financial hardship prevents you from doing anything with your life even though you have big plans

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Medically speaking, what could cause someone to be obsessed with this?

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>>10810278
Go and sit under a table while you're talking to other adults. You'll immediately understand.

It's a matter of security. If a person remains fixated on this, it could mean they lack a core sense of physical security. An extreme form (put disturbingly) is how children being severely traumatized in some way will leave their body and pretend they're watching from an external perspective. Teddy bear in the corner, through the narrow space between books in a shelf, etc. Then they return to their body when it's over / comparatively safe.

Maybe it's nowhere near as dark and there are different degrees, but security and freedom is definitely what comes to mind. "Here, and somewhere else."

>> No.10810310

>>10810305
Also implicitly there's just a matter of preferring enclosed spaces. Again, security and lack of worry.

>> No.10810323

>>10810295
>>10810289
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>>10810278
why would you post this shit?

>> No.10810338

>>10810259
lmao
https://pastebin.com/VuLYa82S

>> No.10810349

>>10810338
Ah... I see that he was clamped.
...
...
...
>clamp
:^)
:^)
:^)
There you go little bud... have a good life! :^)

>> No.10810353

>>10810264
>FM*

Fixed.

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>>10810349
Like clockwork

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>>10810653
Chemosh et al, back on the scene.

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>>10810658
I'm just dumping frogs mate

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>>10810663
k

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>>10810665
Did you draw these?

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>>10810252
IS THERE A LIMIT to how many micronutrients one can absorb if they eat a single meal vs multiple.

I mean, if you get all of your calcium in one meal is that worse than 3 meals with that same calcium quantity spread out?

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>>10810681

>>10810671
nah, just dumping them. these are all drawn originally by some finnish er doc in med threads

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>>10810658
4u

>> No.10810748

Based finbro sharing his masterpieces.

>> No.10810780

All hail Finbro

>> No.10810783

>>10810694
Kek

>> No.10810790

>>10810694
Too bad he didn't study bioelectromagnetics.

>> No.10810843

>>10810275
Get a scholarship.

>> No.10810947

>>10810275
What country are you in? In the US, being poor isn't an excuse to not go to school. Significantly poor people qualify for all sorts of financial aid.

>> No.10810954

>>10810947
Shit is the same for my 3rd world shithole, except for the eastern part of it where people prefer to do manual labor instead of going to school.

The first uni you attend is also free. Imagine how much we need people with diplomas but most of them don't want to study a single bit. (STEM wise, if we take memes like art of philosophy or history, the shithole is full of them)

>> No.10811194

>>10810354
>Culter scum

>> No.10811255

>>10810252
Why can't I build muscle?

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>>10811194
UH ALL JIANS AND FEDS OR MORONS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM GET OFF OF 4CHAN

>> No.10811361

>I realized that blue collars are the most popular patients in the hospital
Why? (Excluding the homeless)

>> No.10811477

Anyone that was or is a med student, if you had medical student syndrome how did u 'cure ' it?
I know it'll go away itself when I start the later clinical years but for now I'm at a loss.

>> No.10811513

>>10810947
Can't qualify for aid if you're in default.

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rate my premed schedule

>> No.10811589

It's going to be interesting when all the Vietnam vets who pilot a lot of the medevac birds retire

>> No.10811614

I am a genius. Student coats are bullshit so I stitched a pocket on the inside of my lab jacket to hold my iPad.

>> No.10811619

>>10811539
3/10.

>> No.10811673

>>10811477
I honestly just wave the sensation off and stop thinking about it. It's hard a first because I never took my diet and amount of exercise in equation but I'm pretty sure I don't have some parasites in me nor I suffer from WPW.

>> No.10811708

>>10811477
Become a misanthrope.

>> No.10811835

>>10811539
Cringe

>> No.10811918

>>10811835
why

>> No.10812262

>>10811918
Nothing outside the prerequisite classes for medical school are of any use once you're in medical school.

You'll cover more material on any given topic in a week than you'll see in a semester of undergrad.

Work on a plan b, because statistically you will not be accepted your first cycle if at all.

>> No.10812297

Torn between EM and Gas
Have scores good enough for both

What would (You) choose, experienced attendings of /sci/?

>> No.10812313

>>10811513
You don't end up in default on government student loans by being poor. That only happens by making extremely stupid decisions and failing to request forbearance or sign up for income-based repayment. Being poor will not prevent you from getting financial aid, but making poor life choices sure as hell can.

>> No.10812318

>>10812297
EM here. Do you like the OR? General Anesthesia attendings are mainly administrators nowadays. CRNAS and AAs do a lot more. If you want to work at small hospitals you might do more. If your'e interested in critical care at all it's probably easier to do from Anesthesia than EM.

I enjoy sedations and incubating and feel like I do enough at my job, plus there are some other hats I get to wear at work daily (OB, ENT, trauma, psych, ortho, etc.) I'd say if you value variety of practice EM is the way to go

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Posted this in the other thread but should have posted here.
Im a doctor and need help diagnosing what's wrong with my toe.
It's been swelling over the last 3 years getting progressively bigger and redder, slightly tender to touch but if I knock it it gets very painful. Starting to throb at night when I'm in bed. It hasn't bothered me before but now I can't walk barefoot anymore without it starting to hurt.

Affected toe on the left and my normal right foot (mirrored image) for comparison.

>> No.10812325

>>10812319

I see melanoma.

>> No.10812326

>>10812318
And also doing a fellowship in cardiac could be fun open heart cases seem interesting plus ECMO (even tho that's coming to EM now)

>> No.10812327

>>10812319
You're a doctor and haven't diagnosed something for 3 years and in that time frame haven't asked a colleague, so you come to 4channel? seems legit

>> No.10812328

>>10812325
it's a birthmark and looks nothing like melanoma btw

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>gunned for ortho, all my curriculum geared towards it
>really liked anesthesia

wat do?

>> No.10812351

>>10812327
What can I say, doctors make the worst patients.

>> No.10812523

>>10812325
That's like the nicest spot I've ever seen. Melanomas are UGLY

>> No.10812829

What's some nice resources on walking gait cycles?

>> No.10812858

>>10810295
>>10810289
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>>10810278
Is this the new forever tiedup jake fully delitized with the bologna, ham and cream cheese tongue?

>> No.10812864

>>10812313
I was in a car accident and left affairs to a parent who didn't want to help me at all.

>> No.10812870

>>10812313
>you should pay for a mistake forever

>> No.10812910

>>10812858
That shit freaks my brain out on a deep level.

>> No.10812991

>>10812262
I have a 3.93 I just need to work on ECs and take the MCAT and I'm good.

>> No.10813334

>>10812864
Have you tried to unfuck your situation at all? You can negotiate a payment plan to get your loan out of default. If you're too poor to do that, student loans are dischargeable in bankruptcy if you qualify for a hardship exemption, and having your finances ruined by a derelict guardian while you were incapacitated sounds like a pretty good hardship argument.

>>10812870
No, but they shouldn't just get a free pass either. Actions have consequences. Almost every time I've heard of someone being in default on federal student loans, it's because they just decided to stop paying their bills and did absolutely nothing to try to fix the situation. Although student loans are hard to discharge in bankruptcy, the government is extremely flexible with repayment plans, forbearances, and other arrangements to keep people in good standing even if they can't afford to make regular payments. And once you're in default, they are very flexible about ways to get out as long as you actually contact them and make reasonable arrangements. But again, people just ignore the problem hoping it will go away. It won't, and the longer they stay in default without trying to make arrangements, the less flexible the government will be.

>>10812991
Don't get too cocky. There's plenty of time left to fuck up. With an average MCAT score, people in your GPA bracket only have a 42% acceptance rate. With an MCAT in the 70th percentile (average for accepted students), 32% of people with your GPA won't get in.

>> No.10813352

>Neuralink will finally let us cure clamp schizo with bluetooth enabled brain implants
The future looks bright

>> No.10813489

>>10813352
Neuralink will become the deepest, most existential clamping man has ever experienced.

>> No.10813500

>>10813352
neural link isn’t real

>> No.10813734

>>10813352
Is clamp schizo really just one person?

>> No.10813794

Is coffee good for you?

>> No.10813828

>>10813794
No. Drink guarana and yerba mate, like a real man.

>> No.10813832

>>10813828
I don't drink coffee for energy/to stay awake, I just like the taste. Around two or three espressos per day, sometimes an iced coffee never with sugar. I heard it can be bad for the intestinal tract but isn't that when you drink a lot of it?

>> No.10813835

>>10813832
Don't know. Guarana and yerba mate however are good for the digestive tract.

>> No.10813850

>>10813832
Watch out with those espressos, senpai. If they're too strong your hands might get shaky.

>> No.10813854

>>10813850
Need to make sure to clamp n' circ well enough.

>> No.10813858

>>10813850
After a few years of regular consumption you mean? Is there no problem if I drink lungos instead? If there are actual risks associated with coffee consumption I'll just stop, that's why I asked ITT

>> No.10813889

>>10813858
A cup of coffee is fine. Anything beyond that imo is just too much. I've seen residents drink 4-5 coffees a day and they slowly become addicted to it.

>> No.10813892

>>10813889
Alright. Thanks anon.

>> No.10813915

What the fuck is the difference between occupational health and occupational therapy?

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>>10813915
One is the status of how you're being killed. The other is the status of how they're pretending to help to the best of man's current ability.

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>> No.10814084

Yesterday saw an ileus patient.
>admitted with vomiting and diarrhea
>3 litres evacuated from nasogastric tube
>RR not measureable
>no pulse on carotid artery
>blood work is all over the place
>she has dilated pupils
>somehow she's conscious
>rush her to the OR
>actually stabelises vital signs
>she has mesenterial thrombosis and adhesions
>survives operation
>admitted to ICU afterwards
Everyone had pronounced her dead, but she actually survived and it's gonna be cool as shit if she get's better.

>>10810052
Where the fuck did I say he should stop taking it. I 'm not a retard to give medical advice on the internet. I said he should contact his physician which he should definitely do if he's experiencing unwanted reactions to a drug he's taking.
>>10813794
Debateable. It might have benefits in small quantities.

>> No.10814314

>>10813934
Don't worry fren, elon will cure you soon enough

>> No.10815313

>>10813352
For real though, how close is Neuralink to stuff like FDVR?

>> No.10815325

>>10814084
How did they stabilize her and how did they find out what it was? Abdominal CT?

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>>10812858
No, that's the crystal hands Marfan syndrome guy.

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>>10814314

>> No.10815555

>>10812319
Differential includes:
>infection
>gout
>#

Just cut the fucking thing off

>> No.10816046

Not science nor math

>> No.10816073

>>10816046
/med/ generals have existed for years. Report the thread if you think it violates the rules.

>> No.10816087

>>10816046
Not really clamped opinion, overall.

>> No.10816095

>>10816046
>medicine isn't science

>> No.10816109

>>10816095
They clamp.
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004074.pub3/epdf/full

So no, medicine is not a science. It's barely an art because it doesn't respond to its failures and attempt to converge to the best approach based on available evidence. It's theater.

>> No.10816127

>>10816109
How's your trigeminal neuralgia?

>> No.10816128

>>10816095
if you think medicine is science you are retarded

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>>10816128
AND CLAMPED.

>> No.10816371

>>10812336
Go gas?

>> No.10816383

>>10813334
When I applied there were people in my premed club (Yes, I know I still cringe about it) with 4.0 GPAs 90% MCATS who were rejected.

No one is as talented or as strong of an applicant as they think they are. At my mid-tier state school we had close to 4000 applicants for 180 seats. I interviewed with a guy who served in afghanistan as a medic, he was rejected, a girl who spent two years in mumbai feeding starving children, she was rejected, and a dude who had a damn publication in NEJM, he was also rejected.

>> No.10816454

>>10816383
Not the anon you replied to, also not from US and I'm genuinely curious why the got rejected with so much "experience" holding their backs? I assume their GPA and MCAT scores were good, why did they get rejected? Did they fuck up the interview or there are some interests in the middle?

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Who /nonclinical/ here?

>> No.10816477

>>10816461
>nonclinical
You mean /surgical/ or /labrat/?

>> No.10816496

>>10816477
Public health, on the way to Hospital administration

>> No.10816498

>>10816496
I don't think so, senpai.

>> No.10816506

>>10816498
Joke's on you my guy, already have multiple connections and job offers in that area

>> No.10816509

>>10816506
Didn't want to mock you, lol. I just wanted to say that I don't think we have people interested in /nonclinical/. I mean, it is interesting, doing statistics and prevention campaigns, but I want to have patient contact.

>> No.10816644

I know Anki is good to learn stuff like amino acids or whatever but what about longer, more complex stuff like anatomy or long paragraphs of info? Is there a good method to learn those?

>> No.10816651

>>10816644
have iq

>> No.10816727

>>10815325
>How did they stabilize her
Shitloads of dopamine, ringer, plasma and mechanical ventilation.
>how did they find out what it was
She got operated for acute abdomen and they saw her gut. They suspected it though from her history and clinical presentation.
>>10816644
Anatomy is learned in the disection halls.

>> No.10816755

>>10816727
>ask a fairly straightforward question
>answers in a way that is neither useful nor relevant
Why do people do this?

>> No.10816758

What's the weirdest/rarest case you've seen?

>> No.10816776

>>10816755
His answers were succinct. Why are you being so salty?

Just maximize doing disdections cause bodies irl aren't as pretty as Netter's illustrations. Cadaveric atlases and Papa Acland's videos help a lot, too.

>> No.10816794

>>10810252
true

>> No.10816837

>>10816776
Because it's not what I asked at all. My question was about mnemonics for long information, i.e. what Anki can't cover.

>> No.10816859

>>10816837
For anatomy photographic memory is key. Especially on nerves and vessels. Good luck with that senpai.

>> No.10816860

>>10816859
Thanks. What about memorizing high amounts of written information?

>> No.10816874

>>10816860
For diseases and treatment I do charts and see which symptoms are common between diseases or side effects are common for each medication.

For medication is a bit more complex because I have to take into account the class it takes part of and such. If you refer to anatomy, there are several ways. For muscles I usually flex, extend, rotate, adduct and abduct my limbs to see how it should work, for nerves I take the initials and try to make a song or poem (Romanian mnemonics suck) because memorising them like a donkey by repeating is not that fun.

>> No.10816882

>>10816874

>premed repeatedly asks about memorising written information in general
>gypsy keeps on giving examples and information relating to anatomy
You dumbass

>> No.10816886

>>10816874
I'm mainly referring to classes that have a lot of written info you got to memorize, dunno how it is in your country but here it's stuff like ethics, psych and whatnot.

>> No.10816898

>>10816882
I had no idea he was referring to that, senpai.

>>10816886
>Ethics
>psychology
Read that shit once and if you fail it you're a brainlet. I've read them like a book without focusing and got a decent grade. Focus on the harder ones.

>> No.10816901

>>10816898
He stated it clearly you dunce.

>> No.10816903

>>10816901
>anatomy or long paragraphs of info
I only thought of anatomy that had long paragraphs of info in it, you donkey. Shit happens, get over it.

>> No.10816988

My eyes are starting to feel strained all the time, I don't know how to describe it another way. Sometimes I get mild pains behind them or headaches and they just feel tired.
Should I go see an ophthalmologist or can I just chalk it up to being constantly on the computer at least eight hours per day?

>> No.10817120

medfag here.
If you were to choose between pediatric neurology and adult neurology, which one is best from a lucrative and interest perspective.

>> No.10817165

>>10810252
Would anyone recommend OB/Gyn if you like surgery but also like primary care? Is it worth the long hours in residency and does it really get better as an attending?
After doing my rotation, it felt more exhausted at the end of the day than surgery somehow...

>> No.10817218

>>10817165
Just do FM, you have OB/GYN incorporated in it.

>> No.10817231

Should I go through with the sexual reassignment surgery?

>> No.10817262

>>10810252
Bros I'm a psych grad who dreams of specialising in psychiatry or neurology because psychology is a meme degree.
But I've heard it's not worth grinding through X years of med school if you've got your mind set on something, but also that postgrad med is a nightmare.
I'm 22 bros, would I be throwing away my chances at a family because of no social life studying? Do I even have a chance trying?

>> No.10817271

>>10817262
>psych grad
>actually expected himself to be useful to society outside of going into a medical occupation
Sorry man, you're fucked if you can't or won't want to get into med school. I would cut my losses now and take up programming or something.

>> No.10817276

>>10817271
I'm a UKfag btw.
Can go on to do a doctorate in clinical psych but not sold on it

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Give me one (1) good reason not to read this book.

>> No.10817367

>>10817120
lucrative definitely adult. Any ped sucks money wise.

>> No.10817373

>>10817231
I'd wait.

>> No.10817379

>>10816886
Well, you read it. How else do you think the information is going to get into your head? Preferably you'll try to understand it, rote memorization is very unefficient.

>> No.10817388

>>10817367
Not pediatric surgery

>> No.10817419

>>10817231
no.
cutting your balls off would eliminate autogynophilia, which would cause immediate regret.

>> No.10817430

>>10817276

I hear that, in the U.K., clinical psych is even more competitive that medicine. Just go to med school. You’ll walk into psychiatry training here and have a chilled working life after your two foundation years. You’ll also make a lot more than a clinical psychologist.

>> No.10817433

>>10817430
The problem I see is learning everything up until specialisation to psychiatry. I don't know if I can hack postgrad medicine without a few years prep time or something

>> No.10817457

>>10817388
Compared to any adult surgery yes it does.

>> No.10817477

>>10817433
If you’re pretty bright I’m sure you’ll be fine. People with all sorts of backgrounds do fine on GEM.

>> No.10817486

>>10817218
Yeah, but no surgery. You suture bad wounds at most.

>> No.10817495

>>10817457
you sure?
https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/surgeon-pediatric-salary..

>> No.10817502

>>10817495
>https://www.salary.com/research/salary/benchmark/surgeon-pediatric-salary..


>Server Error in '/research/salary' Application.
The resource cannot be found.
Description: HTTP 404. The resource you are looking for (or one of its dependencies) could have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Please review the following URL and make sure that it is spelled correctly.

>Requested URL: /research/salary/benchmark/surgeon-pediatric-salary.

>> No.10817503

>>10817502
>The average Surgeon - Pediatric salary in the United States is $440,503 as of June 27, 2019, but the range typically falls between $355,872 and $551,734.
Dunno what your browser's problem is

>> No.10817507

>>10810252
The VA "hospital system" is everything wrong with our country and the public sector. Our veterans deserve better and it makes me weep that this is the best we can give them after their sacrifice.

>> No.10817509

>>10817486
AFAIK they are allowed to do C-Sec? I mean, that's the most they can do, right? (Not from US, so I'm not sure)

>> No.10817518

>>10817503
the dot at the end of the url

>> No.10817521

>>10817518
>he doesn't use 4chan X which automatically makes posted links clickable

>> No.10817523

>>10817509
>AFAIK
Deliver babies, yes. Not sure about C-section. Maybe that's only if you live in a underresourced country/ super remote rural area. I don't plan on moving to a super remote rural area. The again, I guess, they would have to know how to do c sections too since you can't just transfer a woman in the middle of labor who isn't progressing to a different center,

>> No.10817590

>>10817262
>I'm 22 bros, would I be throwing away my chances at a family because of no social life studying?
Have you ever seen a doctor with a family? If you can't figure shit like that out on your own, you probably ought to stick to Starbucks.

>> No.10817592

>>10817507
And always remember that if "medicare for all" becomes a thing, it will be designed and administered by the same people that run the VA.

>> No.10817605

>>10816454
What qualifies someone as a good applicant is completely subjective and since there's an absurd number of applicants each year and the admission committee all has competing interests (At my school the committee was made up of Physicians, Basic Scientists, and community members aka people without any form of doctoral degree).

The only reasonably correlated metric for medical school success is science gpa. And even that can be nebulous. The US system works differently than a european style MBBS. Schools are much more stringent when it comes to picking students but, they don't like try to kick you out with weed out classes or whatever. In fact they'll go out of their way to make sure you graduate and match. So, if you know someone who got kicked out of medical school in the US that dude is an idiot of the highest order.

>> No.10817615

>>10817507
Fuck 'em.

>> No.10817708

>>10817262

I'm in the exact same boat although I'm in my last year of my psych degree and not from the UK. I think you should just go for psychiatry dude. That's my plan but since I probably don't have a high enough GPA to get into an Ontario med school I'm going to go to Australia or the UK.

>> No.10817750

>>10817262
From a US perspective clinical psychology is only going to get worse. Psychiatry is a boom town right now because millennials or whatever we're calling younger people these days are going into the field in droves because it's a good lifestyle specialty.

More importantly they don't have the same stigma on the profession as compared to previous generations. So they're more proactive and willing to use behavioral therapies along with pharmaceutical approaches.

>> No.10817777

>>10817750

Out of curiosity, to the best of your knowledge, what is the outlook of psychiatry specifically for IMG's? Not US IMG's either. I'm from Canada but hypothetically if I want to match in the USA for psychiatry from an Australian MD program, how competitive is it if I'm not picky about location? I hear the USMLE STEP 1 will transition to a P/F system so I imagine that could only make things..better for someone in my shoes?

>> No.10817812

>>10817777
I'm not sure. If you went to a Canadian school you'd be golden. Canada has a special relationship with the US for medical training. There's a distinction between FMGs and IMGs when it comes to competitiveness for a residency position and I'm not sure what you'd fall under.

In any case it's gotten harder for people outside the US system to get a license to practice here. (Not completely without cause as much as I like to shit on the DOs I'd take them any day of week before looking at the fuck-ups from the Caribbean)

>> No.10817850

>>10817812

Would you say an Australian MD is better than a US DO or Caribbean MD? I mean do you have a general picture of how they do in terms of clinical skills or have you ever worked with any directly?

>> No.10817864

>>10817850
>>10817812

The reason I ask honestly is because from what I have heard, Australian schools are very good but as an international student they are expensive. Ideally I could get into an MD program here although Canada is very competitive, even more so than the US and if you're from Ontario you have an even worse chance to no in province advantage. Truly is a fucked up system. Even with a 3.7/3.8 GPA you are no where near guaranteed.

>> No.10817893

>>10817850
Objectivity isn't the issue it's the perception. Program directors don't like there to be too many IMGs and DOs because it drives away US seniors. Hell, they'll do quarantine interviews where DOs and IMGs will get interviewed on separate days and locations so that the US seniors won't interact with them and get spooked. That being said you'd be perceived much better than some guy who went to the Caribbean.

>> No.10818033

>>10817592
The thing that doesn't make sense though, is that Europe is nowhere near as bad and inefficient as a lot of the VA. I really think it's more our shitty government system and who ever is in charge of overseeing the VA. The office workers leave at 3pm(so when you have an access problem you're fucked), the IT people leave a 1pm(so when you EMR malfunctions there is no one to help you). The nurses give no shits. All because they have no incentive to work hard cause they know they will get paid anyway. There is like no quality improvement. I think setting up some expectations is one way to start even if the main issue is the government wanting to be cheap and save money.

>> No.10818351

>>10817893

Ok understood, that makes sense. I guess there is a lot more stigma with someone coming from the Carribean. Basically diploma mills.

>> No.10818435
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10818435

Is it possible for gastric juices to remain active all the way down to the anus?
From time to time I get these seemingly "corrosive" feces that chemically burn my ass. I am pretty sure it is not simply irritation, it lasts for days and feels "wet" like the mucosa was destroyed.
I am an alcoholic and often suffer from heartburn (not necessarily when I drink tho)

>> No.10818473

>>10818435
No, go to your doctor for a hemorrhoid or anal fissure check.

>> No.10818498

How hard is it to start your own lab? I did a masters with thesis before joining medical school. I want to stay in academia but I don't want to just be a pure clinician.

>> No.10818536

Hey doctors i got this weird thing on my back and i hope you can diagnose me with some ghetto treatment i can do. When i move some muscles on my upper back it feels as if a ball is rolling over top of them causing lots of pain and an extremely irritating weird feeling. Theres nothing on top of the skin but when i move in certainc ways a bump will come up. It seems to me as if there a multiple of these things on my back and its only on the top right side. Couldnt find anything on google about this and its hard to describe but i think i got it.

>> No.10818627

>>10818536
Your ghetto treatment is to go to the nearest free clinic. It's probably some kind of cyst and can be lanced.

>> No.10818678

>>10818627
So basically get a friend or a few mirrors and take a knife to it?

>> No.10818705

>>10818033
>I think setting up some expectations is one way to start even if the main issue is the government wanting to be cheap and save money.
Sounds good. How are you going to do it? The government certainly isn't going to voluntarily start holding itself accountable. Look at the Aurora, CO VA hospital clusterfuck. It was four years behind schedule and $1.4 billion (yes, billion) over budget and nobody got fired, nobody was demoted or held administratively accountable, and some of the people responsible were even given bonuses. Even after congress started poking around at it, the most they could do was transfer control of the project to the Army Corps of Engineers, but nobody at the VA was ever held responsible.

>> No.10818711

>>10818678
And then you'll probably end up at the ER with a bad infection or a pneumothorax, so you might as well save yourself a lot of pain and expense and just go to a doctor to get it properly assessed and treated.

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10818720

>>10810252
Make sure they do not clamp.

>> No.10818914

>Hepatitis B virus is not spread through food or water, sharing eating utensils, breastfeeding, hugging, kissing, hand holding, coughing, or sneezing.

>Oh if you live with someone with Hep B, get tested

which one is it

>> No.10818956

>>10818914
Both. It can be spread via fart inhalation.

>> No.10819160

>>10818914
Both. Imagine if your partner has some gum bleeding, none of you know about it and kiss. Now you both have Hep B.

>> No.10819163

>>10818914
>hand holding
You still should wear a glove.

>> No.10819226

Help
>have had almost constant digestive issues and lower intestine pain for a year now
>started with frequent diarrhea but eventually turned into excessive gas over time and the occasional irregular bowel movement
>did blood and stool tests that came back negative
>apparently no anomalies in my intestine but it makes weird noises when I push on it
>the whole thing was dismissed as IBS by my GP
>was getting used to it
>just two days ago I get a nasty runny shit just like when it started
>think «that’s fine, it happens, it’ll get better tomorrow»
>two days later and I still have a weird pain in my colon, a faint, constant urge to take a shit even when I just did so, and frequent diarrhea (or almost)
>shit seems normal aside from being gooey and almost liquid, since it’s shit-colored and not dark red or whatever, but it smells weird
>less gas than usual too
What the fuck is happening to me? I’ve been eating more spicy for a while but I don’t think it’s that, I mean my diet isn’t great in general so I doubt hot sauce would wreck my insides like this
Help me bros

>> No.10819250

Is the sci medfag meme true and all med students uncritical rote memorization brainlets? The entry requirements for med seems quite high along with the actual workload and contact hours.

>> No.10819258

>>10819226
Probably IBS desu, are you stressed at the moment? I was miserable and stressed at my previous job and had tonnes of stomach problems like yours, I left the job and haven't had any issues since.

>> No.10819263

>>10819258
Yeah but I’m always stressed so there’s nothing right now that justifies it getting worse
Just a few days ago I had the usual gas/bloating but I can deal with that, and suddenly it’s painful diarrhea which is much more troublesome
I don’t get it

>> No.10819286

>>10819250
Interning and maoist struggle sessions have a lot in common

>> No.10819352

>>10818705
Wtf is the government so shit at cracking down on shitty workers and people taking advantage of the system? Is there bribery and nepotism going on or somethings? You'd think concern over budget allocation and frugality (the VA uses only the lowest cost resources such as EMR and what no

t) would make them more invested. Not to mention you're using tax payer many AND serving the people who defended your country.
Sometimes I want to write a letter to congress and the president about what a shit a job they're doing and how non of them actually car about veterans despite what they shill in their speeches for reelection.

>> No.10819357 [DELETED] 

Is it okay to put my hobbies on my CV and that one of them is exercising even though I go on and off sometimes?
Hoe many books do you have to read in a year to qualify for the right to put down reading as a hobbie? Do audio books count?

>> No.10819361

Med fag here getting ready to start applying for residency.
Is it okay to put my hobbies on my CV and that one of them is exercising even though I go on and off sometimes? As in don't do 6 days consistently every single week?
How many books do you have to read in a year to qualify for the right to put down reading as a hobbie? Do audio books count?

>> No.10819368

>>10819250
Every damn field has memorization, the difference with medicine compared to other fields is as a student you're useless until you aren't. There aren't degrees of understanding. You either have a good enough handle to practice or you're a danger to public health there's no middle ground.

Obviously, there is critical thinking in medicine but you can't sit there and derive something from first principles. It's either impractical or unethical. So, you just have to memorize a lot of stuff just to get to the point where you can start making informed decisions.

>> No.10819377

>>10814084
Did she have an anticholinergic crisis? How long did she live with a goddamn full illeus and not die from the complications?

>> No.10819400

>>10818498
phd, some nice postdocs or two, get funding, boom

t. associate prof

>> No.10819591

>>10817590
Yes I know several people who's parents are doctors?

>> No.10819962

I feel like I’d be a good radiologist, but I need to be in an alpha role. Should I just pursue surgery?

>> No.10819982

>>10819377
she had diarrhea so not that long surely

>> No.10820010

>>10819591
Most doctors come from a family of doctors. Medicine is hilariously nepotistic.

>> No.10820244

>>10820010
Each generation more retarded and incompetent than the last.

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>>10820244
>Each generation more retarded and incompetent than the last

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10820327

If you were being paid (or simply had the opportunity), would you clamp the umbilical cord before the completion of placental transfusion? Would you strap what will eventually be another man, into a circumstraint and circumcise him?

>> No.10820373

u r wat u eat

u r ate

dem crystals that foot sheeeeeeeet

>> No.10820378

>>10814084
>she has mesenterial thrombosis and adhesions

first bite, she dies

first trip getting out of the wheelchair into car, she dies

if she dies, she dies

>> No.10820387

>>10816127

five times the pain

>> No.10820397

>>10816758

>>10816758

the abdominal pt that refused narcotics

the obstructed airway that somehow says "i can't breathe"

the diabetic pt that actually takes their medicine

>> No.10820403

>>10818435
>I am an alcoholic and often suffer from heartburn

you're at risk for MI, GI ulcer that turns into a nasty bigtime bye bye bleeder. get a physical.

>> No.10820407

>>10810252
The VA Hospital is corrupt

>> No.10820444

>>10820397
Maybe you should actually cure their diabetes.

>> No.10820497

>>10820444
How?

>> No.10820525

>>10820444
Maybe they shouldn't have given themselves diabetes in the first place. It's only the type 2s who don't take their meds. Type 1s would die within a few months if they didn't take their drugs properly.

>> No.10820547

>>10813794
If you aren't deficient in nutrients, yes.

>> No.10820553

>>10820497
Inform and guide them as to how to identify and eliminate environmental and behavioral factors which are causing it. Give them dietary / herbal prescriptions to begin to reverse it. Inform them that low intensity pulsed microwaves are used to induce type 2 diabetes in animal models.

>>10820525
You can only go down that road when they double down on their ignorance. To my knowledge type 1's would be dead within a week or two, possibly much faster. If they're prone to seizures that would do the job much earlier.

Had a friend with type 1.

>> No.10820554

ONE MORE WEEK UNTIL THE FIRST WEEK OF MEDS SCHOOL MY DUDES ADDERALL ON DECK I HOPE I DONT FUCK UP

>> No.10820558

>>10820554
You already have.

>> No.10820561

>>10820558

Lol I know my friends from college are making 200k+ a year in the bay area while I chose to ~help people~

>> No.10820568

>>10820553
What herbal prescriptions?

>> No.10820664

>>10820553
Don't they use Alloxan to induce type 2 DM in Sprague-Dawley rats?

>> No.10820981

>>10820664
There's no shortage of pharmaceuticals that can cause a diabetic like condition in a rodent model.

>> No.10820992

>>10820553
The worst are insulin dependent type 2 diabetics. I fucking hate having to do S&P on them in clinic.

>> No.10821463

Any advice for an 18 yr old pre-med major? (No meme responses please)

>> No.10821478

>>10821463
What country? If you're in the US, consider majoring in something that isn't completely useless if you don't get into med school. People who major in biology/pre-med/health sciences have the lowest med school acceptance rates of any major, so it's certainly not going to give you an advantage, and a significant percentage of people don't get in so it's wise to have some kind of backup plan. Other than that, it's pretty simple. Do well in school, do well on the MCAT, and have a few non-academic interests.

>> No.10821506

>>10810310
>preferring enclosed spaces
Autism, then?

>> No.10821509

>>10821463
>>10821478
And for fuck's sake don't go to the Caribbean.

>> No.10821510

>>10821478
Would osteopathic med school be a viable backup?
My major is biology (considering biochem though)
My postgrad backup plans are:
1.Med school
2.Osteopathic med school
3.dental/pharmacy school
4.work in a lab somewhere

I’d have to have a sub-Saharan IQ if I can’t get any of my first 3 choices right?

>> No.10821512

>>10821509
Lmfao I’m smarter than that

>> No.10821527

>>10821510
ANY US MD>>>>DO. You're not at a level where you can be picky about who takes you.

Don't listen to LCME's bullshit. You're really limiting your chances for specialties outside of straight primary care if you go DO. As much as people like to shit on the whole licensure process DO is much worse and liable to only get worse before it gets better. Ask yourself seriously why you want to go to medical school. If you just want a good salary in a biomedical profession think about allied health (PT, audiology, ophthalmology, etc). If you like the science side of things consider doing a PhD in a medical science it has it's own problems but if you can get a tenure track position it's a pretty good lifestyle.

Dental school and pharmacy school is more of a financial risk than Medical School and hard to get good placement outside of the middle of fucking nowhere.

>> No.10821530

>>10821527
>ophto
>allied health
What

>> No.10821534

>>10821530
Optometry. You know what I meant, fuck you.

>> No.10821536

>>10821527
So I’d be better off applying for my top choice of med school, and then applying for a shit med school (like LSU’s school of medicine) before applying to a DO school.

>> No.10821539

>>10821536
Even the crummiest medical school in the country has extreme competition to get in.

>> No.10821544

>>10821539
I’m saying all this assuming I still have an application in the 60th-70th percentile or higher

>> No.10821546

>>10821527
Also I feel like this doesn't need to be said but just incase. OMM is bullshit and is just embarrassing to even witness.

>> No.10821548

>>10821544
Which would translate to a 30-40% chance of acceptance.

>> No.10821549

>>10821544
Dude, there are autistic motherfuckers out there that apply to like every medical school in the country with 80th+ percentile scores.

>> No.10821554

>>10821527
Although that's true, the majority of doctors ought to be going into primary care anyway, so I don't see it as an issue as long as you understand what you're getting into. And if you just want a decent upper-middle class career, med school is an idiotic way of achieving that. You can be an engineer or programmer in far less time, far less cost, far less work, and have higher quality of life as well.

>> No.10821555

>>10821554
>You can be an engineer or programmer
This is only true in the US, perhaps in Canada as well.
In Europe programmers and engineers make jack shit compared to doctors.

>> No.10821562

>>10821555
Programmers in the US still make quite a bit less than doctors, but when you factor in the cost of medical school and length of training, the difference isn't so large in the long run. If you land a programming job with a top company, your lifetime earnings will probably be higher than someone who spends an additional 7-10 years in med school and residency.

>> No.10821564

>>10821562
Yeah, in the US. In countries where med school is free (or costs a few hundred per year) this is a non issue.
I don't think there's any profession in Europe with higher lifetime earnings than MDs.

>> No.10821565

>>10821564
How long does it take to get a license to practice in Euro-land?

>> No.10821568

>>10821565
Depends on the countries and specialty, usually from eight to twelve years, but since there's no premed like in the US it's 8-12 years in total, right after high school.

>> No.10821571

>>10821568
So roughly the same time frame.

>> No.10821573

>>10821571
I thought some fellowships in the US ended up making the total amount of years closer to 14-16

>> No.10821579

>>10821573
I said roughly senpai. But yes, many people in the US take up specialties and spend longer training.

>> No.10821581

>>10821579
Well yeah, medical studies don't vary too wildly from one country to another. Aside from Japan where it's allegedly six years, which seems weird. Maybe that's why people die from the common cold there

>> No.10821597

>>10821581
What are you talking about? Japan has a six year MBBS followed by internship and specialty training, like the UK and many Euro countries.

>> No.10821600

>>10821597
Oh my bad, I thought six years was enough to get a licence to practice. I'm retarded

>> No.10821622

Seriously though why are Ob/Gyn all insufferable cunts?

>> No.10821895

>>10821527
Primary care is what I’m wanting to go in anyway

>> No.10821925

>>10821622
They’re mostly women. And the ones that aren’t women have to work with women all the time, which turns them bitter.

>> No.10821937

>>10821925
Do you know what's the most common obstetric surgical procedure?

Sever left ureter.

The second is sever right ureter.

>> No.10821941

>>10821895
The fact that I'm from the middle of fucking nowhere is probably half the reason why I got accepted to medical school.

Jokes on them, I'm getting the fuck out of here as soon as I can.

>> No.10822027

>>10821941
I’m a German immigrant, if I tell them that my grandfather survived the holocaust and that I’m an ashkenazi Jew, will that raise my chances of acceptance? (I’m not of course, he was actually in the Wehrmacht but they don’t know that)

>> No.10822104

>>10821937
Shouldn't that fall under urology?

>> No.10822120

>>10822104
It's a joke my dude. The initial incision for a cesarian is blind and ureters get severed all the damn time. Sometimes bad enough that a real surgeon has to come along and help fix it.

>> No.10822254

>>10816758
>>10820397
desu, even as a med student, I think a South American pt with a huge fungating tumor on the leg due to sarcoma that never sought medical treatment because "they were waiting for a religious sign of some sort of archaic crazy nonsense.
The leg was literally leaking blood and smelled awful (cellulitis due to pancytopenia).
I had to hold the leg while the surgeons put a torniquete and prepped it. It was horrible.

>> No.10822272

>>10821622
>>10821925
Depends on the place.
One of the hospital affiliated with my uni has nice ones. The a lot of the ones in the other hospitals are pretty bitchy though.
>>10821937
That's hysterectomies though.
Also, C sections are rarely done blind unless it's a serious emergency.

>> No.10822283

>>10816149
based rare pepe.

>> No.10822412

>>10816758
It wasn't weird in a medical sense but the dumbest way someone tried to scam us for narcos was wrap bacon straight out of the pan around both wrists after slitting them.

>> No.10822435

Am I just imagining things or do VA docs come in like only two flavors?

Hilariously incompetent to the point that you wonder how the hell they got through school. Or pretty decent but like annoyingly patriotic.

>> No.10823162

Does anyone know where to find a collection of dissected cadavers with all structures marked? it would help a lot with my anatomy practical exam since the uni's cadavers are in... questionable condition. my biggest of thanks.

>> No.10823187

>>10823162
McMinn's Atlas of Human Anatomy. Pirate it off Z library. You should really focus on your uni's cadavers though. It's different seeing things up close and being able to handle them.

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>>10823162
Rohen's Color Atlas of Anatomy. Zoomers need to learn to use books.

>> No.10823224

>>10823192
>putting just the number instead of the name of the structure and listing the names on the bottom
whoever designed this should be drawn and quartered, it's why i went netter

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>>10823224
You should have both. Netter and Rohen are complementary, not alternatives. Besides, the numbers are a minor hassle to look up, but some of the Netter drawings are absurdly busy with all the labels.

>> No.10823302

>>10823224
Then fucking use Netter, you entitled shit.

>> No.10823330

>>10823244
I have neither, I sold it after not opening it for two years. That looks unnecessary though, mine was fairly clean in regard to labels.

>>10823302
Do you understand the concept of criticism? Goddamn mong.

>> No.10823345

>>10823330
It's more practical to use numbers instead of directly labeling shit so you can test yourself on structures when you're going through the book. Fucking retard.

>> No.10823641

>>10823345
>>10823302
>>10823330
Geez, these are the people who are going into medicine today. Browsing 4chan to boot. I hope I don't go to school with any of you.

>> No.10823716

>>10823641
>Browsing 4chan to boot

>> No.10824076

>>10823641
Bold of you to assume you'd be accepted.

>> No.10824082 [DELETED] 

>>10810252
If medicine was at its core about helping people WHY, DO THEY CLAMP? Why do they need to TIME the clampingof the cord instead of just leaving it to do what it's doing until IT TELLS YOU that it's done? Not your fucking stopwatch?

They clamped your umbilical cord early.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30473033
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30278462
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30193752
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30598672
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29101631
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30208504

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27654493

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30355293

https://www.cochrane.org/CD003248/PREG_early-cord-clamping-versus-delayed-cord-clamping-or-cord-milking-for-preterm-babies

And you'll let them get away with it. This must change.

>> No.10824085

For a metabolic alkalosis cause by vomiting. Is the increase in pH due mainly to loss of gastric content emptying into the duodenum or due to the increased alkaline tide from constantly regenerating stomach acid?

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>>10824076
kek'd

>> No.10824235

>>10824082
I was born with my cord wrapped around my neck. Not really germane to what you're talking about, just thought I'd share.

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finally found my phd topic jesus fucking christ

>> No.10824251

>>10824243
Grats and good luck.

>> No.10824266

I mailed my occupational medicine prof about the thesis/license paper, whatever you Americans call the thing you have to present at the end of medschool. She was more than happy to take me. Here, you have to choose your prof and subject of the paper at the beginning of the 5th year. At least that's one obstacle out of the way.

>>10824243
Godspeed, anon.

>> No.10824273

What is international mobility like for european MDs?

>> No.10824283

>>10824235
Don't respond to clampfaggot. It just encourages his schizophrenia.

>> No.10824347

>>10812829
Your text books

>> No.10824352

>>10824347
I don't have any. I'm not a med student. Just have internet in walking cycles and prosthetic legs.

>> No.10824357

>>10816758
>Patient's daughters practiced witchcraft
>patient needed blood but daughters only wanted penis blood

>> No.10824363

>>10824352
How often are you farting?

>> No.10824366

>>10824352
Download the therapeutic one.
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/0B-b9fo5deJ85RXFjd3lURmVBWk0?usp=drive_open

>> No.10824367

>>10824352
Interest *

>> No.10824370

>>10824366
Thanks mate!

>> No.10824379

>>10824370
Clinical kinesiology and anatomy has the gait cycle too. I'm looking for the O'Sullivan text book which is superior

>> No.10824383

>>10824379
Thanks, so far I was recommend Jacquelin Perry's book but although I haven't dived into it, it seems to focus on abnormal gait cycles.

>> No.10824388

>>10824383
We didn't use that textbook. The one I'm looking for has everything you need. It has a very elaborate chapter on prosthetics

>> No.10824392

>>10824273

Also curious about this and also for Australian MD's. I'm Canadian with an EU citizenship and I am torn between studying in Ireland or going to Australia. Ultimately I don't really care that much about where I end up practicing just as long as I am doing it in psychiatry. Ideally I'd like to practice in Canada eventually. CAD to AUD conversion rate is more forgiving but I don't know if credentials would be recognized everywhere. I have heard since Canada and Australia are both commonwealth this can be helpful but if anyone can chime in I'd really appreciate it.

>> No.10824396

>>10824383
Ok sorry i can't find the pdf. I'm not sure if i had the pdf stolen from somewhere or i got the encrypted official one. But the text book i was referring to is Physical Rehabilitation by Susan B. O'Sullivan. We used sixth edition but the 7th edition is the latest one afaik. You can try looking for the sixth edition pdf.

>> No.10824408

>>10824388
>>10824396
Ok! Thanks for the recommendation! I'll search for it on libgen and maybe ask on irc too.
I'm looking forward to reading this!

>> No.10824422

>>10824396
The 5th edition is on libgen.io!

>> No.10824423

>>10824422
It shows sixth ed too
http://libgen.io/search.php?req=Physical+Rehabilitation+Susan&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def

>> No.10824429

>>10824423
Yeah, you're right! Thanks a lot anon!

>> No.10824447

>>10824273
Inside the EU even specialties are transferable (in theory), UK is a bit of wild card at the moment, Aus is fairly easy too. Don't know about Canada and in the US you are a IMG like everyone else.

>> No.10824449

>>10824447
>Aus is fairly easy too
Aren't median incomes for physicians much higher in Australia? How come there aren't more expat MDs there? European salaries aren't very high except in Switzerland and doctors complain all the time about that.

>> No.10824471

>>10824449

I don't think the Australian Royal Colleges have "reciprocity" agreements with every single EU country and certainly not with all specialties. In other words they would probably have to redo residency. I could be wrong though.

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I'm the autopsy guy

AMA

>> No.10824588

>>10824560
What part of the body you hate to cut the most?

>> No.10824604

>>10824588
Bowel is 100% eatshitlmao typical resident work. Attendings mostly supervise, take care of the craniotomy and brain dissection plus some technically difficult aspects that can arise when dealing with some of the other organs.

>> No.10824653

>>10824560
Did you see that documentary from the BBC where they do an autopsy on a fat woman and a healthy man?
Is it legit?
Isn't it disgusting to smell shit all day?
I heard that autopsy on drown corpses is the worse. Is that true?

>> No.10825127

>>10824653
Haven't seen it
Autopsies are only a small fraction of our work, really. Most time is spent at the microscope. And the smell isn't too bad when you're wearing 2 masks

>> No.10825964

>>10824560

Should I just keep reading Robbins or is there something else I can do to git gud at pathology?

>> No.10826106

>>10825964
Use Molavi and Pathoma
Unofficially, not even Pathologists bother with Robbins. Best advice I can give you is to always stick to the shortest most concise review material, as long as it's of good quality

>> No.10826243

>be undergrad
>finishing up the last of my 2nd year courses >only 3.0 GPA
>no ECs at all, no community involvement, no school involvement, nada
Is it too late for me? I've only jut been considering a medical profession after learning that the job market for my major is absolute shit.

>> No.10826259

>>10816758
Weird/scary was a 40 y/o lady who came in with right sided flank pain and diminished movement of her legs for the past week. She was very stable when we assessed her. We did an abdo x-ray that came back showing a large space occupying lesion and spinal mets. Woman was to undergo a biopsy and start treatment, but died 2 days after getting the news of possible metastasizing cancer. Wonder if it was the shock of it all.

>> No.10826290

I did like shit in my first pathology exam. Time to kms.

>> No.10826463

>>10826290
You'd probably fuck that up as well.

>> No.10826473

>>10826243
It's never too late, but the longer you spend sucking the more you have to be nobel-prize-winner tier to compensate.

>> No.10826507

How difficult is it for an American to gain admission to medical school in a European country such as Germany? Would doing some grad school in the target country make it easier to be admitted?

>> No.10826671

>>10826473
What do then? The most difficult part for me would be getting those ECs. Most premeds I've talked to and those who got in had done amazing things, like learned to play six instruments, or travelled to some third world shithole doing humanitarian work, while I'm just a painfully average sperg. I'll be talking to some of my profs for possible research though so I guess that's a start...

>> No.10826720

>>10826671
You don't have to be a cross of a circus clown and Jesus, you just need to have demonstrated that service and humanitarianism are a part of your life. Do research. Call a hospital and ask to shadow and volunteer. Look for local charities and volunteer. Just have evidence that your idea of the road to being a doctor isn't taking a few classes and jacking off in your free time.

>> No.10826727

>>10826720
Doctors aren't true humanitarians. Some of them want power and status, others see it as a good economic strategy (cost:benefit), the rest have had their humanitarian core hijacked and perversely redirected.

You cannot be a doctor and help people today. Whether you realize it or not, your actions are a net harm.

>> No.10826738

>>10826727
What do you suggest then?

>> No.10826744

Potential gf is studying internal med, how fucked an i?

>> No.10826764

>>10826727
What doesn't what you said have to do with what I said, or with medical school admissions? It's doesn't matter what doctors are actually like, it only matters what they, and the schools themselves, pretend to be. Play ball for selection boards, or look for a different career.

>> No.10826773

>>10826738
I really don't know. If I replicate the results Rife (and Schereschewsky, Gosset) were getting in the 20's and 30's, it may be possible to get through the FDA now that Novocure (Israeli backed) got a foot in the door.

>> No.10826836

>>10819286
you’re constantly starving and will suck the higher-ups’ dick for a meal?

>> No.10826839

>>10819361
imo unless you gotten accolades within your hobby don’t put it down

>> No.10826845

>>10821463
go into hard STEM like pure math engineering, get good grades 3.6+GPA, then do prerequisites. this way even if you don’t get in you’re not completely useless and will still be able to get a job.

>> No.10826851

>>10826727

Not true MSF exists

>> No.10826873

>>10826871
New thread.

>> No.10827713

>>10824076
>>10823716
I'm already in a school. That's why I'm hoping none of you go there too. That would actually make me very upset at the admissions department.
Sure, I'm browsing 4chan too, but at least I'm not a miserable jerk like you guys.