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Is the neural system of a crustacean/invertebrate capable of getting high off amphetamines? Would it give it an evolutionary advantage? What about other drugs

>tld I want to get my lobster high

>> No.10808303

>>10808149
Why don't you try and find out?

>> No.10808552

>>10808303
How much should I dose him?

>> No.10808557

>>10808552
enough

>> No.10808566

>>10808552
Start small and look for changes in behaviour. Document it in this thread.

>> No.10808572

>>10808566
I have amphetamine in the form of ritalin 10mg. How many tablets should I dissolve in the water?

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>>10808149
Jesus dude, it's obviously done something. The fuckers turned blue!

>> No.10808603

>>10808572
I don't know. Start with 1/10 of a normal human dose perhaps? Be sure to get it on camera. You have a chance to do actual science on the science board for once.

>> No.10808608

You're going to want to start really small, don't forget how small those niggers are.

Try disolving like 1 tablet in 5 litres of water (I would say 10 but shit's hard to do). Make sure to stir that shit thoroughly too. Give the little blue baller the water and see his reactions/changes. You can easily poison something so small.

Do it for /sci/

>> No.10808614

>>10808608
You can always buy another lobster at the grocery store. OP should get several to make sure of the effects.

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>>10808608
>>10808603
Ok so here is the subject prior to administering of 2 crushed 10mg Ritalin pills. Sorry for the potato camera

>> No.10808619

>>10808616
You need to realize that only a tiny fraction of the ritalin will make it into the lobster.

>> No.10808624

Op might deliver for once

>> No.10808626

>>10808619

which is a good thing

>> No.10808668
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Ok at this point he seems rather agitated

>> No.10808686

>>10808668
Is this normal behaviour? You should have some sort of control sample. If he survives you should repeat the experiment and document any periods of agitation regardless of whether he's sober. See if the frequency of agitatiom events increases when he is subjected to amphetamines. Document the dosages.

>> No.10808700

>>10808616
Ritalin is not strictly amphetamine, but a derivative. Methylphenidate as it says on the label, jus sayin.

>> No.10808778

>>10808149
Probably not. Caffeine evolved as a pesticide for fucking up invertebrate nervous systems. So stimulants are probably bad for invertebrates
>>10808668
oh shit he already did it. That lobster's probably gonna die.

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OK Lobsterbro is still alive and I did a little test to see his aggressiveness, he never usually grabs onto the food to the point where he is pulled outside the water but he does here.

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>>10808794
Fade in blu hue?
Isn't that like a testosterone thing in them guies or something?

>> No.10808853

>>10808794
You need to develop a way of conducting this test consistently, and control for factors like hungriness.

>> No.10808859

>>10808794
Looks like he's developing autism

>> No.10809172

Ok he seems to be jittering his appendages violently, either coming down or about to die

>> No.10809185

>>10808794
Can you put speakers in his tank o see if he likes some music? I always like to dance on amphetamine so he might too.

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>>10808149
3 sentences require a tldr. The state of todays no attention span society.

>> No.10809245

Dear lord

>> No.10809267

>>10809172
I told you to document it, did I not?

>> No.10809274

>>10808572
>I have amphetamine in the form of ritalin 10mg
Ritalin is methylphedinate which is not the same thing as amphetamine. They have some structural similarity and physiological effects but still two different molecules.

I'd suggest you calculate the molarity when a 70 kg man ingests 30 mg amphetamine sulphate. Lets say the man is 70% water so roughly about a volume of 50 liters. Molecular weight of amphetamine sulphate is 368.492 g/mol so it would result in a molarity of c= m/MV = 0.0000016 M = 1.6 µM.

Ritalin has a molecular weight of 233.31 g/mol so if one tablet is worth 10 mg then you'd need a volume of V = m/Mc = 26.8 liters.

So this is overall a very crude approximation but start with one pill in 26.8 liters of water and work your way up from there.

>> No.10809287

>>10808149
faggot

>> No.10809369

>>10808836
Get help

>> No.10809614

>>10808572
>amphetamine in the form of ritalin 10mg
Ritalin isn't amphetamine you retard.

>> No.10809733

>>10808149
this is a good thread

>> No.10810045

>>10809733
it would be if OP hadn't stopped documenting his crab

>> No.10810063

>>10810045
His mom probably caught him

>> No.10810201

>>10808794
Lmao that lobster is tweaking tf out
This is the funniest shit I've seen on /sci/ in a while

>> No.10810204

>>10809274
This. OP gave his lobster a heroic dose.

>> No.10810229

>>10809287
>faggot
Why the homophobia?

>> No.10810236

>>10810229
Because homo's need to be kept in line.
by gods will they have no rights and are lower than animals praise god.

>> No.10810250

>>10810236
see
>>10809369

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10810290

>>10808149
>>10808668
>>10808794
>have complete and total authority over a weak creature
>torture it with drugs
fuck you OP

>> No.10810302

>>10810229
kys

>> No.10810326

>>10808686
No. Crayfish are naturally crepuscular. They should be hiding and inactive in high light environments.

I do not know if this crayfish exhibits unnatural behaviour because it is "tame".

>> No.10810342

>>10810236
delete your comment

>> No.10810357

>>10808149
why did you do this op?

>> No.10810363

>>10810342
OP torturing animals is worse than someone baiting with poorly paraphrased anti-homosexual muzzie phraseology? You need to get a grip on reality and realize that no one is going to harm any gays especially not incel autists on 4chan

>> No.10810376

Based thread.
Fuck anyone who says it is cruel

>> No.10810410

OP give him more.

>> No.10810422

>>10810376
>lol I’m a sociopath

>> No.10810559

>>10810422
>>10810357
>>10810290
For fucks sake it's a lobster you fucking pussies
Its standard to boil them alive when they're prepared for food

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10810582

Why does everyone just assume OP is torturing the lobster? For all I know the lobster could be having the time of his life spun out on kiddie meth.

>> No.10810595

I think that we can conclude that lobsters have a similar reaction to Adderall wow so science

>> No.10810597

>>10808149
Peterson is a nigger

>> No.10810616

>>10810582
This I would be one happy lobster if someone dosed me with kiddie cocaine

>> No.10810633

Fuck off moralfags. The lobster survived so quit bitching

>> No.10810677

>>10810559
m8 i was genuinely curious why op decided to give ritalin to his lobbie friend. i think it's cool and i don't care that he did i just want to know why

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>>10810290
>>10810363
>>10810422
>stop hurting that lobster, you fucking monster! He is a precious creation from nature and we should treat it with love and care! I fucking love science!!!

>> No.10811358

>>10811347
If you give him meth on mating, he'll be best and you'll have 50 blue lobsters or so.

>> No.10811378

>>10808794

nigga you gave him crack-cocaine

>> No.10811379

>>10810595
It's actual science unlike the rest of the threads up right now.

>> No.10811409

>>10808149
some one did this before
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2018.00433/full

>> No.10811431

>>10808149
Good thread, must say, he's awfully cute.

>> No.10811697

>>10808794
based and adhdpilled

>> No.10811719

You should consider things like moon phase and tidal waves if you want to predict the situation based on mating and living.

Now he maybe just think, that he have a lot of energy and he have enough energy to waste on food.

Can you make lobsters like that on meth in controlled periodic(modular), outside tested out? Can you get enough data in nature?

You use control environment, not controlled environment for doing experiments, and that's why they are boring.

And don't force them first, just propose if it tries to get itself if it founds.

Hiding stuff in food is not friendly interaction.

Later he can just react to fact you are giving him food and you became enemy by the food, not the meth.

>> No.10812095

>>10811409
>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fphys.2018.00433/full
so I am correct then, he is having a blast therefore fuck the basedbois saying OP is torturing the lobster.

>> No.10812142

>>10810290
you're probably also against medical animal testing but not a vegan because of your mental gymnastics huh

>> No.10812487

>>10812095
Fuck yeah, bang that shit lobsterbro

>> No.10812495

>>10812142
its his pet

>> No.10813051

>>10808149
do you ever cough on ritalin op?

>> No.10813243

>>10811409
Nice, great study
>>10813051
No

>> No.10814169

>>10812495
Oh wow it has a label that totally changes the type of animal it is. OP is no more of animal torturer than someone eating lobster in a fancy restaurant where they get thrown into boiling water(both of wich im kinda against, but at least this is science). If you're not a vegan you're a hypocrite.

>> No.10814193

>autist feeds his lobster ritalin
this site never ceases to amuse and confuse me

>> No.10814207

>>10814169
>if you kill the bacteria washing hands you're a monster
>b-but the nervous system
>animals are our friends *WAA WHAAA*

kys

>> No.10814215

>>10810559
pet lobsters are frens
food lobsters are not

no bullying the pet lobbie

>> No.10815610

bump

>> No.10816479

>>10812142
If you're not vegan you're Satan

>> No.10816497

>>10811409
Sometimes I wish I was in biology. So easy to come up with research. Just have a dart board with different animals, and one with different drugs.

>> No.10816507

>>10810422
>>10810559

I’m vegan I don’t eat lobsters you fucking moron. I think it’s wrong and disgusting.

>> No.10816510

>>10811347
>lol u guys aren’t sociopaths like me XD so that’s so funny

Kys

>> No.10816511

>>10814169
nigger I would never give a pet, an animal I've taken into my home and adopted as a member of my family any sort of psychoactive substances without doing at least basic background research on how that species reacts to that substance. if you do that to for instance your dog or cat you should be beaten within an inch of your life. I also never told him to not do it, in fact I didn't say anything to OP at all but only pointed out that someone pretending to hate gays is not worse in any way than someone actually potentially harming their pet. Nigger

>> No.10816857

>>10816497
CONGRATULATIONS ANON! You get to research what happens when polar bears consume cocaine! Did you know that polar bears are the most aggressive bears that we know of?

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10817286

Some of you were complaining that the Ritalin wasn't a real amphetamine so I went and scored this

>> No.10817300

>>10817286
How did you fucking get your hands on meth in the short period inbetween your first post and this one?

>> No.10817302

>>10816511
>lobster part of family
kek

>> No.10817308

>>10817286
prick to his animals
but
based scientist

>> No.10817340

>>10817300
He's probably australian. Pretty sure that's a maron. Not sure if they are exported.

Point being meth is everywhere in australia (it comes from china).

Pretty impressed by that crustaceans tolerance to narcotics.

>> No.10817364

>>10817340
>Pretty impressed by that crustaceans tolerance to narcotics.

The Virgin Hermit Crab vs. the Chad Lobster

>> No.10817380

>>10817286
I hope that's not actually meth.

>> No.10817709

>>10817286
Lad why are you so intent on giving lobsterbro a fucking heart attack and potenty lobster psychosis?

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>>10817709
Mfw crayfish don't have a heart.

>> No.10818264

>>10810559
We boil them to eat not for the sake or torture

>> No.10818287

>>10818264
we aren't giving it drugs for the sake "or" torture. the goal here isn't to inflict as much pain as possible onto the underwater lizard. op could quite easily grab some nail clippers and start chopping bits of it off, or give it a very lethal dose. As far as we know Mr. Lobster is still alive and could be potentially having a great time.

>> No.10818324

>>10818287
Probably having a heart attack mate in fucking agony. And whos we?

>> No.10818572

>>10817286
We want to see the aftermath

>> No.10818606

>>10818256
Recheck your facts dude

>> No.10818608

>>10808149
true

>> No.10818811

>>10817286
I kek'd so hard I almost fell out of my seat

>> No.10818869

>>10817286
Toasting in science bread

>> No.10818965

>>10817300
he didn't, it's most likely just salt
also i doubt he even gave it ritalin

>> No.10818996

>>10818965
>salt
>white dust

Current observations on the subject:
Rapid twitching of the whiskers and chelicerae

Swimmerets are swishing back and forth more rapidly than usual

Agitation, raises its claws defensively when I move my hand's shadow over it

>> No.10818998

>>10818996
yes, salt can be in dust form like any kind of crystals

>> No.10819007

>>10817286
>sidesinorbit.gif
you're my fucking hero

>> No.10819034

>>10808149
Dont listen to the fags, It was a nice experiment but he or she? wont have kids so...ill tell a stoner friend about this and lets see if he has enough atention span to raise a colony of spiders with weed

>> No.10819038

>>10819034
He or she (its difficult to sex them and I haven't tried) won't have children because it will die in that tank. These lobsters are extremely aggressive by nature and they dismember each other for hiding spots. I had to give all his brothers and sisters away because they were massacring themselves

>> No.10819340

>>10819038
At least this one got rewarded with meth after defeating his siblings, lol.

>> No.10819572

u got to step up your spearmints bro, dump a handle of vodka in the tank and add more methamphetamine

>> No.10819930

>>10819572
This, keep it going. And record it.

>> No.10820344

Anon is doing God's work. Bless up.

>> No.10820391

>>10808557
This makes sense to me.

>> No.10820400

>>10814207
Tightly circumcised.

>> No.10820514

Nice /b/ tier thread where it actually belongs. Reported faggot.

>> No.10820818

>>10808149
[math]
Future~Work\\
~\\
Introduce~female~lobster\\
Record~videos\\
Sell~videos~at~speedlobsters.com\\
[/math]

>> No.10822409

>>10810290
it's for science, so that makes it ok

>> No.10822425

>>10820818
CRUSTACEANED.COM

>> No.10824032

Was a new thread for this made

>> No.10824039

>>10811347
This but unironically.

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Ok so things took a turn I completely didn't expect, the lobster moulted

>> No.10825240

>>10811358
YeH Op do this so we can all have a pet blue lobbie and give meth too

>> No.10825247

>>10825207
what's happening in that pic? vid

>> No.10825254

>>10825207
Meth causes lobsters to have advance moulting?

>> No.10825274

>>10825207
Ahh so he's finally coming out of his shell. You can begin to observe the experiment for real.

>> No.10825279

>>10825207
Now this is legit interesting. Was he due to moult?

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>>10825247
Here he is outside the moult
>>10825254
It's possible

He might just be due for a moult, it's been about 2 months

>> No.10825315

>>10825240
When berried the female carries at least 50 eggs or younglings (They remain stuck under the moms tail). These things breed like crazy which is why I think they make good subjects for experimentation.

>> No.10825342

>>10818572
More like aftermeth

>> No.10825412

>>10825299
Has his behavior changed much before/after? Did he crash and sleep 12 hours?

>> No.10825422

>>10825412
Can't tell. I missed the whole moulding because I was sleeping.

>> No.10825436

>>10817286
Put me in the screen cap

>> No.10825472

>>10825422
Did you at least watch him after the mething

>> No.10825941

>>10808149
get two tanks, dissolve speed in one tank, you can put him in the speed tank to dose then remove him

>> No.10827197

>>10825941
This OP, we need controls.