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How could we theoretically prevent the heat death of the universe, or, failing that, survive past it?

>> No.10788385

>>10788381
hide in another dimension

>> No.10788386

>>10788381
you know, this would be a sensible topic to discuss once we are at least capable of moving entire star systems around without breaking a sweat energy budget wise and of course have FTL and a host of other just as likely to exist technologies available to us

>> No.10788387

Nothing because the heat death is some bullshit that requires several unjustified assumptions to prove.

>> No.10788507

>>10788387
Could you elaborate on that a bit, please?

>> No.10788513
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10788513

>>10788381
We had this conversation before summerfag. We already solved it. There was a graph and everything.

>> No.10788521

>>10788513
>fag
Why the summerphobia?

>> No.10789289

>>10788381
>He believes in Heat Death
Not gonna make it

>> No.10789308

>>10788381
>survive entropy
impossible retard

>> No.10789471

>>10788381
Insufficient data for meaningful answer

>> No.10791007

>>10789471
What is that reference for, again?

>> No.10791010

>>10788381
INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER

>> No.10791019

>>10791007
https://www.multivax.com/last_question.html

>> No.10791077

>>10788381
>heath death
Yeah sure, I'm certain gravity will just stop working just for funs.
The real problem is surviving all matter collapsing in a single point and the big bag happening again.
Unlikely, unless we somehow find a way with quantum mechanics.

>> No.10791080

>>10788381
Quite literally not our problem

>> No.10791124

>>10788381
Master energy manipulation and re purpose waste energy to do our bidding.

>> No.10791152 [DELETED] 
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10791152

Would you like to make a deal?

>> No.10791159
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10791159

You could help end entropy and the heat death of the universe. All you have to do is sign a contract.

You can save everyone from entropy. Don't you want to do it? Just one little contract and that's it!

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10791163

>>10788381

>> No.10791178

>>10791159
Does the deal entitled one to a wish in which they become God and eliminate entropy?

>> No.10791179

>>10788381
Worry about crossing that bridge when you get there.

>> No.10791187

>>10791080
>>10791179
Shouldn't you study for your test?
>Na, thats future me's problem. I'll worry about the test when I take it

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>>10791178
this question has been asked before, here is a prepared response

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10791197

>>10791192

>> No.10791209

Universe is infinite in time, scope and depth. There will be no heat death or big crunch. New matter is constantly bubbling up from the quantum foam. Our resources here are infinite. Human has already passed through the filter. Our future is infinite if we want it to be. Reason for the Fermi paradox is because of infinite scale; infinite aliens and infinite hyper-civilizations that make us look like ants in comparison, but also infinite space separating us. OPTIMUM

>> No.10791228

>>10791209
>New matter is constantly bubbling up from the quantum foam.

New energy too? How do I get some of that quantum foam free infinite energy to power my AC? It's hot and don't want to pay electricity bills.

>> No.10791373

>>10788521
> summerphobia
kek

>> No.10791378

>>10791209
kek

>> No.10791649

>>10788381

>Oh noes! Muh heat death!

Fucking brainlets. All we need to do is to gather a heap of firewood and light a big fire in the middle of the Universe.

>> No.10791708

>>10788381
We would have to stop clamping and vaccinating.

>>10791010
This as well. LET THERE BE LIGHT.

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10791732

>>10788381

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10791738

>>10788381
If eternalism is true, you will never die in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uz6anwm47g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-UG-Xx6maY

>> No.10791765

>>10788381
Find some new source of energy to reverse/slow down the eventual equilibrium. Maybe use things like qualia or emotionally based energy and harvest that energy. Imagine if you could harvest the energy from all the tears of emotional little girls? Wouldn't that be a wonderful source of energy to save the universe?

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10791850

>>10788385
I'm on it. D4C!

>> No.10791921

>>10791187
except you will be dead

>> No.10792941

>>10791765
Seriously? That reference again?

>> No.10794431

>>10792941
Yeah, enough of that!

>> No.10794757

>>10791732
This image always imbues me with boundless hope and optimism.

>> No.10794766

>>10791921
Our ancestors did not simply sit back and go with the flow just because most of the fruits of their labor are only being reaped now. If they had said "who cares, I'll be dead in the future anyway" and continued to sit around and scratch their ass all day like you do, you'd still be living in a mud hut right now. Your backward worldview must be fought at every turn if human progress is to continue.

>> No.10794822

>>10789471
Good one

>> No.10794842

>>10789471
And AC said LET THERE BE LIGHT

>> No.10795052

>>10788381
We would need to increase gravity to prevent the expansion of the universe
And unlimited energy

>> No.10795059

>>10795052
Not a problem. For unlimited energy, just accelerate the expansion of the universe.

>> No.10795378

>>10788381
The truth is that you can't. Everything will eventually die. However, what is the next best step could be integrating our physical brains into a virtual reality that can simulate a time span that would be slower than reality. It would be like how your dreams can sometimes feel like only a few minutes only the complete opposite. A week would go by in the real world but could feel like 30 years within the machine.

>> No.10795391

>>10791738
I don't know anything about eternalism and have nothing to back up my belief that can be supported with meaningful evidence, but I deeply believe that the universe as we know it has been in an endless loop alone with infinite variations of it all happening within a linear timeline and the energy that makes up everything is consistently being recycled into new forms with each beginning and end of the universe.

For something as complex as this, there is little opportunity for this to be a remote event that can only occur once and the energy remains the same in alternating forms throughout each cycle.

So I'd say that you are you now, and eventually what makes up you will become the gas particles on a far away planet, then maybe grains of dust floating in air, etc., but eventually you are you again and maybe you've been everyone and everything else already (or will be at some point). I am not spiritual, but I just feel this essence of grandeur from being able to witness and understand the universe and I think there's many variables we have no capabilities to even fathom in the works

>> No.10795504

>>10788381
God makin' things work for us.

>> No.10795526

>>10788381
Our measure systems and simlations have far from being atleast retarded, don't worry.

>> No.10795854

Why are we so sure we'll survive the next hundreds and thousands of years, or millions? It seems like all it takes to wipe us out is a big enough asteroid, and we have no means to avoid it, let alone manipulate the whole universe

>> No.10795868

>>10788381

There is no way. All it takes is one higgs boson to slip into a lower, more stable state for vacuum decay to kick in, obliterating us all.

>> No.10795974

>>10791732
/thread

>> No.10797798

>>10795974
What?

>> No.10797818

>>10797798
What?

>> No.10797819

>>10791732
>Asimov.
https://youtu.be/WhPvJOnHotE

>> No.10797830

>>10788507
When you dont have any counter-argument, then you ask the other party to supply excessive information.

What do you even want him to elaborate on you brainlet? He has a standing argument and you dont know how to counter it.

>> No.10797870

>>10788381
We make a god

>> No.10797906
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10797906

just rub sticks together to make more heat retard lol

>> No.10797919

>>10791738
This fact about eternalism has always bothered me
Given that we have this illusion of the passage of time, yet the present doesn't exist, that probably means our subjective experience repeats itself eternally, like a film that rewinds every time it finishes.
While some may find that uplifting, in the sense that we never really die and the lives we experience are eternal, there's the terrible realization that people who lead awful lives are in eternal, timeless suffering.

>> No.10799180

We have tons of time on our hands to solve that issue. The more pressing matter is ensuring the continued survival of humanity and habitability on this planet, to that end we need to end the tyranny of The Eternal Jew.

But to add to the discussion, I believe the answer lies in literally physically manipulating the universe itself. To create some sort of equilibrium state where the universe constantly is able to sustain life. TLDR: Recycling

>> No.10799216

>>10788381
Don't ask abstract questions like these here. The 99.99% brainlet population will crucify you for it, it isn't 1+1 enough for them.

>> No.10799268

>>10797830
> I pretentarded

>> No.10799281

>>10797830
He just asked you to elaborate, cunt. Not everything here has to be about
>le ebin 4channer arguer logics haha 1v1 me textually plebfag
Just post a google search if you're too retarded to type it out.

>> No.10800221

>>10799216
Where should I ask it, then?

>> No.10800242

>>10788381
God damn it you cowardly little bitch ass pussy. Deal with it you fucken lil bitch ass cuck faggot. YOU WILL BE DEAD VERY SOON. No matter what none of this will matter in some amount of time. Deal with it little boy. Grow up you weak pansy so yboi.

You: Waaa, waahhn. I'm going to die. Waaannnh. Ahuh waaaaaaannn. We're all goin to die. Waaaaaahhhn. Wahhhhn. WWWAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHNNN.
Universe: What a fucken faggot. I will make sure you suffer for your disgusting faggottry and weakness.

>> No.10800257

>>10799268
kek

>> No.10800597

>>10788381
Go to another universe.

>> No.10800726

>>10788381
WHy would you? All good things must come to an end, as it should. Then, another story will come out, and the cycle repeats again.