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[Anonymous No.10767564]

Is it worth the effort?

[Anonymous No.10767567]

are you a certifiable genius or have very rich parents?

[Anonymous No.10767566]

fuck no

The internet exists. Overpriced, pretentious universities are obsolete.

[Anonymous No.10767622]

>>10767564
Depends how much effort, and how much money you have. Going to a top ten school on high-financial aid is easily like $200k saved/earned. Not to mention all the benefits like networking and state-of-the art labs. Even if you fail, having credentials that make you competitive at such a high level should at least get you good scholarships/fin aid for mid tier schools.

If you are a rich bastard, or not that smart (you need to be smart enough to learn college-calculus in high school with low-effort), it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.10768151]

As with _ALL_ college admissions, just "going there" shouldn't be an end in of itself. You can go to MiT right now by living in the Boston area, attending lectures and hanging out with faculty. You won't get a degree but if you want to work on university-owned equipment as an employee it's a way in. Fuck they'd probably make you an adjunct professor if you're good enough. But this is besides the point.

If you want to go to actually get an education then the value proposition is exceedingly poor against even private colleges like DeVry or Wyotech. If you want to go to be "into science" this can be done at any state university for 1/10th the cost.

Now if you want to go there to DO science, then you have a reason to choose them based purely upon their available equipment and staff to run experiments with. But this is also a very expensive question, something that demands you walking in with an existing PhD. It's also probably more work then conjuring a privately financed solution yourself. And such was how Silicon Valley was born: the northeast was too expensive so they all fucked off to the hinterlands south of San Francisco where land was cheap and talent readily available from the nearby nuclear weapons factories.

[Anonymous No.10768172]

for the networking opportunities, yes.

[Anonymous No.10768191]

>>10767566
Unironically this. Unis (especially in the US) are academia memes filled with senile teachers.

[Anonymous No.10768195]

>>10767564
They don't even teach lisp anymore they teach python. The mighty have fallen.

[Anonymous No.10768230]

>>10768195
They don't "teach Python" you brainlet. Teaching a programming language is codemonkey shit. They use Python where appropriate for teaching computer science.

[Anonymous No.10768234]

>>10767564
It's not really a big deal if you don't gain admission

[Anonymous No.10768240]

>>10767564
Most people who go there graduate, it's a great place for holding your hand all the way.

[Anonymous No.10768258]

>>10767566
Meh, maybe yes.

>meeting people
>learning outside your field
>interacting with experts in peripheral fields who may actually inspire you
>labs and equipment


>>10768230
This is something that brainlet cs majors really don't understand.

Programming is a means to work on more important problems for the vast vast majority of people (aside from those perfecting algos and working on development of electrical engineering of computer components.

[Anonymous No.10768267]

>>10767622
Not OP but I learned calculus when I was 15 (10th grade). I did not know trigonometry (went straight from algebra 2 to calculus), put in absolutely no effort to the class, took from a teacher who had never taught calculus before and barely knew what she was teaching. I got a B. Went to college full time in 11th grade. Quit school after graduating high school at which point I had I think like 45-48 or so college credits which I had to pay exactly 0 cents for. Now I've been out of school for years. A-am I gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.10768445]

>>10768267
Why didn't you apply yourself and try to go to a top tier university for free? No one is going to believe you're smart without a degree, and even if you are a genius, your career will be filled with endless repeated displays of your competency to your superiors.

[Anonymous No.10768454]

>>10768151
The value proposition is incredible. You're not even computing the amount of financial aid and scholarship those universities have. You can go to MIT for 1/10th the cost of going to a state school, as long as you aren't already wealthy.

[Anonymous No.10768527]

>>10768454
>as long as you aren't wealthy

or make over 100k lmao. I'm at a similar university and before scholarships, it's upwards of 40k/year and my parents make like 140k.

[Anonymous No.10768532]

>>10767564
even if you put in the effort it's very possible to not get in. Also, MIT is private and expensive unless you're poor or get scholarships (but MIT doesn't give out scholarships based on merit). You're better off going to a good state school with a big scholarship. UMich or Georgia Tech at half the price is the best option for middle-class students.

[Anonymous No.10768562]

I'm looking at becoming a professor and taking a master's (then hopefully a doctoral degree) at a top 10 university in the US. There's a few scholarships I could get that would significantly (if not entirely) reduce the cost of admission.
Is this plan dumb, and is a career in academia something I want to actually do?
t. law graduate

[Anonymous No.10768568]

>>10768527
140k is wealthy dude. I was not referring to only super-rich millionaires. Anyone who makes over 25k per family member is above average in wealth in the US.

[Anonymous No.10768576]

>>10768532
It's worthwhile to try to get in, regardless, since even if you fail to get into the top tier universities, you will be able to do well at second-tier uni's. See >>10767622

>>10768562
Couldn't be too bad. If you have a Law degree, you already have a lot of fall-back in case you fail at your dreams. If you are pursuing a degree in something non-theoretical, it would even build your career by giving you the expertise necessary to work with intellectual property, as a fall-back.

[Anonymous No.10768590]

>>10767566
The NEET Battlecry

[Anonymous No.10768715]

>>10768568
I come from a working class family, seeing people who have parents make over 100k combined and having them not think this is wealthy is jarring

[Anonymous No.10768794]

>>10767564
Nothing is worth the effort, we're all going to die and the sun is going to fry the earth.

[Anonymous No.10768800]

>>10767566
You don't pay a college for an education you pay it for a reputation.

[Anonymous No.10768951]

>>10767566
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the NMR machine.

[Anonymous No.10768968]

>>10768532
Don't come here to Georgia Tech unless you want to cry everytime you like at your GPA

[Anonymous No.10769179]

take the berkpill.

[Anonymous No.10770518]

Take the maroonpill

[Anonymous No.10770527]

>>10767564
Yes, network is more important than almost everything but being able to access competent instructors is invaluable. While >>10767566 is totally legitimate teaching yourself higher level subjects in difficult fields is a very difficult task.

[Anonymous No.10770563]

Worthless compared to my diplomas from Trump University and PragerU