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Anonymous Thu Jun 27 19:59:09 2019 No.10761989 [Reply] [Original]

Is it possible to create free wireless electricity for everybody to use?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wireless_System

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:00:38 2019 No.10761992 File: 97 KB, 660x545, Who needs nuclear.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10761989 Yes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:00:49 2019 No.10761993 >>10761989 The sheer amount of energy required and the tremendous interference with other wireless systems and even animals with certain senses makes that very impractical.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:01:55 2019 No.10761999 >>10761989 >>10761992 And yeah, the sun is basically already that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:46:58 2019 No.10762094 >>10761989 Nothing is free. It all dies out eventually.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:48:16 2019 No.10762097 >>10761999 the sun is not electrically charged. it is neutral

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 20:59:20 2019 No.10762111

>>10762097
can different planets have different static charges?

Like maybe the earth has an extremely positive charge, but we call it neutral because it's our baseline. Now we send a probe to another planet with a strong negative charge. When that probe touches ground, could the discharge of static energy destroy it's electronics? Is that something NASA engineers have to plan for?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:15:59 2019 No.10762132 >>10761989 Tesla literally did it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:21:29 2019 No.10762137 >>10762094 >sun will die out in billions of years I think earth can call it free energy. The basically created all life on earth anyway, so might as well be free.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:31:19 2019 No.10762150

>>10762111
Under normal circumstances objects tend to remain electrically neutral because charged objects will immediately begin gaining/losing electrons through tiny interactions like attracting dust particles. Eventually, an equilibrium is again reached.

Anonymous Thu Jun 27 21:42:00 2019 No.10762165

>>10762111
so basically you just described what we call a floating ground in EE. if there is no command ground, you can measure voltage (the potential difference) relative to any specific point. if we connect the two planets, that may result in an electric current and the earth may suddenly become negatively or positively charged. will that screw up all the electronics and power transmission lines on the planet? i would rather not connect us to such a planet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 27 23:16:05 2019 No.10762332 >>10762097 this is either expert level trolling or the dumbest shit ive ever read outside /x/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:31:46 2019 No.10762740 >>10762132 What happened to his research? Did he destroy it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 04:34:29 2019 No.10762743 >>10761992 How do photos from the sun become electrons on earth?

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 05:47:49 2019 No.10762819
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>>10761989
>Is it possible to create free wireless electricity for everybody to use?

"No! You must all rely on the metered power grid like good peasants! Now get back to work!"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 06:09:14 2019 No.10762831 >muh Free energy electricity

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 06:10:23 2019 No.10762833 >>10762743 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photoelectric_effect

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:08:37 2019 No.10763839 >>10762137 Call it what you want, the truth still looms.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:10:15 2019 No.10763841 >>10762740 he teleported it to the 7th dimension

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:13:16 2019 No.10763851 >>10762094 He could draw weak electrical charge from the earth. Big wow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:17:59 2019 No.10763860 File: 2.33 MB, 1920x1080, change_my_mind.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10761989

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:19:59 2019 No.10763866 >>10763860 You are absolutely right. It was inefficient, however, it was not that which was blocked by Edison. It was AC (Alternating Current). That would have made wireless clocks, floating induction, wireless mouses. Everything would be wireless.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:21:16 2019 No.10763868 >>10762740 There's good reason to believe Donald Trump has it. Not even a fucking meme either. Government confiscated it after he died. They hired Trumps uncle to review all his notes and make sense of it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:23:39 2019 No.10763873

>>10761989
>create free electricity
Energy cannot be created only converted. You can probably create a system to transfer electricity without using wires and not ask people to pay for it, but prior to that you need some other source of energy that will provide energy which you can convert to electricity

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:31:29 2019 No.10763896 >>10762740 In a fit of blind rage cause by a life of involuntary celibacy he burned his factory to the ground when people stopped funding his crazy ideas

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 16:42:01 2019 No.10763920 >>10763896 He was miles away when it happened. Although this does not rule out a wireless or time based switch to set it on fire...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:13:13 2019 No.10764112 >>10763868 >They hired Trumps uncle to review all his notes and make sense of it Do you have surce on that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:14:59 2019 No.10764113 >>10764112 Actually he does. We literally all do. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44457471 How did you miss this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:17:13 2019 No.10764117 >>10764112 You don't remember the lightning bolt that hit Trump tower during the elections? Some people say they saw an '84 DeLorean sailing across the sky

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 28 18:33:39 2019 No.10764150 >>10764113 >>10764117 I'm not american so I don't follow Trump news closely, but thanks. I wonder how the Trumps are planning to use Tesla's tech.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:39:37 2019 No.10766469 File: 31 KB, 250x251, 1528585049908.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10762097 >ball of plasma >PLASMA >neutral This could have been a good bait but you needed to embed the one liner in a small paragraph.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:42:19 2019 No.10766476 >>10761989 >Is it possible to create free... No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:43:46 2019 No.10766484 >>10761992 The sun is free energy in the same sense that petroleum reserves are free energy. The energy source exists, and until you try to do something with it, it is free.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:48:51 2019 No.10766496

>>10762833
Cool. So you propose using that effect to provide free energy to everyone, as per OP's post.

But I think you skipped a step. You still need to be able to produce electricity using the photoelectric effect in industrial amounts, globally... for free. And, if we are to fulfill all of OP's criteria, you need a free wireless transmission system. But I'd be willing to skip the wireless transmission if you can explain how you are going to manufacture huge quantities of photovoltaic cells for free.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:50:08 2019 No.10766499 >>10763866 And that, children, is why we do not use alternating current today. Think of the amazing new world that Edison robbed us of.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:53:48 2019 No.10766512 >>10764150 Well the first part of their clever plan is obviously to just sit on a lot of revolutionary new technology that is worth billions, at least from 1943 through July 2019. Possibly longer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:55:50 2019 No.10766516 >>10766469 Plasma -- a state of matter in which exist positively charged ions, and the negatively charged electrons that have been stripped off of them. Can you figure out for yourself the over-all charge there?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:57:15 2019 No.10766520 >>10761992 >Who needs nuclear.jpg Low IQ poster detected.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 14:59:18 2019 No.10766524

It's already been done in many different labs. Problem though, like others have said, is the interference with other electronics and some animals. It just wouldn't work well. I think it is just more reliable to have power running to your source via transmission cables vs any other method

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 15:44:19 2019 No.10766614

>>10766469
Google Debye length. The sun's plasma is said to be "quasi-neutral". The bait is that there are lots of heated discussions about whether the sun is only slightly positively charged. Different models predict different charge amounts anything from 77 C to 10^22 C. But overall it is slightly positively charged due to loss of electrons due to the solar wind. The point is if the total charge is as little as 77C you can drain it like a Lipo battery in one second if you draw 77 Amp from it. The average Sun-powered quadcopter could drain the Sun in a few seconds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 15:53:45 2019 No.10766638 >>10766516 Plasmas taken in isolation are approximately neutral, to say that a star is not electrically charged is retarded.

Anonymous Sat Jun 29 16:21:45 2019 No.10766709
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>>10761989
Yes, its called the zeropoint reactor. Works by initiating a high speed electric (DC) plasma discharge and capturing energy with a Faraday coil (with some capacitance). Yes, that simple but you'll get MIB on your ass if you advertise it. There is a feedback loop and you can't shield it because it requires aetheric fluid flow as an open system.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 16:34:50 2019 No.10766735 >>10764150 Hes too dumb to do anything with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 29 16:38:22 2019 No.10766745 File: 95 KB, 400x300, Denied.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10762097 SAFIRE Project would highly disagree. They were able to replicate many of the sun's features. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeVdzSjPx0g

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 06:09:53 2019 No.10768133 >>10766524 Could i at least wirelessly power my dick pump? That's all i ask for is a wireless dick pump.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 10:43:53 2019 No.10768502 >>10768133 yes it should be possible just like local wi-fi within a confined space like your room. you can roll your own high voltage 'transmitter'.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 30 10:58:00 2019 No.10768517 >>10766484 Last time I checked solar panels don't actively decrease our solar reserves.

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