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10744589 No.10744589 [Reply] [Original]

Should we bring weapons/warships when approaching an alien planet or to make 1st contact?
How will it be perceived?

Let's say we sent signals to a form of life we know for a fact is intelligent, but didn't answer

>> No.10744601

>>10744589
it would the the stupidest fucking thing we could do
if it in fact have malicious intention and could reach us in such a short period of time I'm sure resistance against them is futile

>> No.10744621

>>10744601
What if we are more advanced than them, they are intelligent but with human 18th century tech level
We would be superior in every way so I guess bringing a weapon would be "acceptable"

>> No.10744623

>>10744621
sorry op, I misread and thought you meant if they would approach us
in that situation we definitely should but concealed

>> No.10744843

>>10744589
First contact should be bombing them into submission. Anything else is just sloppy.

>> No.10744849

>>10744589
Go over, observe, find out if they are hostile or have silly rules that could make them hostile. If they are hostile, nucc. If they are silly, try and work around that.

>> No.10744856

>>10744589
Bringing weapons as a simple safety measure is fairly understandable, but that's just within the framework of humans not deserving to be annihilated upon first contact, which is a matter of opinion.

>> No.10744903

>>10744849
Silly rules?

>> No.10744935

>>10744589
Of course we bring weapons. And then we will fucking glass their planet.

>> No.10744969

Yes humans should immediately disarm and in particular eliminate the entire nuclear arsenal preferably along with all the long lasting chemical weapons.

This will be greatly appreciated.

>> No.10745141

Assuming that it's us who initiate first contact then yes, we should bring the best and shiniest examples of our tech to scare them into submission.

>> No.10745151
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10745151

>>10745141
It might be worth holding back on showing the absolute best weapons we have, and try to scare them with lower tier weapons first. Gives us an ace in the hole in case the aliens have some surprise for us.

>> No.10745225

>>10745151
Hmm, that makes sense. It'd be pretty bad if they Independence Day us

>> No.10745368

>>10744903
Just imagine, no picking fruit on tuesdays. One guy just snips a piece off to test it for space aids and suddenly, poof, worlds war z.

>> No.10745477

>>10744589
> Should we bring weapons/warships when approaching an alien planet or to make 1st contact?
We already have the best weapon for wiping out aliens. Just take a shit.

Flu virus from America mixed with flu virus from Europe in 1918. It jumped a mere 2 generations and wiped out 5% of the population.

Now imagine what would happen if bacteria that evolved separately for billions of years mixed. We're talking complete extinction for the receiving species.

Just launch a single rocket containing shit onto the alien planet. Wait 3 months. You will wipe out the aliens. Of course, then the planet will be just as hostile to colonizers, but such is life.

>> No.10745499

>>10744849
well what is hostile. you are trying to apply humans' mentality to aliens? there is no universal definition of 'friendly' or 'hostile'. it is completely subjective. even if they attempt to destroy you that may be for a totally different reason, such as helping you. or it could just be an automatically selected action based on some kind of an algorithm that we have no idea how to interpret. maybe a loss of life is an abstract notion to them and therefore not considered 'hostile'.

>> No.10745513

>>10744589
No. They could shoot us down and steal our technology.

>> No.10745529

>>10745477
India has a space program?

>> No.10745535
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10745535

I like to think of how much employment and business finding another intelligent race would bring.
A whole other living planet to study, like if we just landed on earth today and should rewrite the entire wikipedia.

>> No.10745543

>>10745529
Yes, they plan on tossing a space station into orbit soon

>> No.10745996

Starfleet brought phasers (guns) with them. I think like anything else. If the weapon is holstered and you don't show signs of aggression then it is fine. Not like the ambassador detail who comes later is going to be armed.

>> No.10746080

>>10744849
>If they are hostile
You mean hostile like willing to nuke another at no provocation?

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10746165

>>10744589
well first we have to join the already existing galactic aliens, then we have to join their ranks for like a million years, then maybe we are allowed to tinker with other naturally forming life that are at the same tech level as we are right now.

You really think we will just fly into sapce oneday and visit some same techy level civ ? lmfao

>> No.10746178

>>10744621
glass them

>> No.10746183

>>10745477
>Implying alien organism will be susceptible to terrestial infections

>> No.10746206

Assuming current space sci state!

A spaceship should be equipped with weapons, standard. There is a reason why that won't matter in initiating contact.
Scenarios:
Encountering a lifeforms that is more advanced will mean we will not be able to utilize the weapons, we would be detected and they would have absolute control and home turf advantage. Also they would have a very good understanding of our development stage and understand why we are equipped with weapons. And if they are not friendly it will not make a difference, overall it will not impede contact if it is welcomed by the hosts, unless we go in firing which is not protocol and people would be trained well enough and be intelligent enough not to so 5his!

Other scenario, encountering a species less developed, lap weapons would not impede contact, we would have control and a protocol in place. Contact in this scenario would be made most likely and easier depending on how developed our counter parts are as to what level of interaction would occur initially!

Third scenario a species, intelligence equal to us in terms of development. Contact would most likely be in very careful organized stages, both would have a protocol in place and understand 5he othersides needs in regards to progressions contact in a controlled manor. In this case being that we ar visitors higher risks would be undertaken on our part, relincushing of most control and weapons! Information sharing would be very slow and done very cautiously. In fact this would the riskier kind of contact, it would be paranoid sides and sharing would not be truthful in terms of tech and cooperation!

Ether way weapons would be OK and necessary!

>> No.10746232

What if they are masochistic and like being bombed, and when we bomb them they think it's a compliment due to their strange culture? This is why weapons are a dangerous game.

>> No.10748129

>>10744903
if they're ancaps