/sci/ - Science & Math

[Anonymous No.10737297]

How does /sci/ deal with living in a wagecuck society? Did you all just stay in academia? I’m a well payed code monkey and honestly I hate it most days

[Anonymous No.10737301]

>>10737297
Who said we deal with it?

[Anonymous No.10737303]

I try to get employed doing something that is creating useful wealth as opposed to frivolous consumerism.
I work at a logistics technology firm so it's kind of useful work.

[Anonymous No.10737307]

>>10737301
Well, your alive, have a roof over your head, and eat food, so clearly you are doing something to keep yourself alive

[Anonymous No.10737328]

>>10737307
The only thing keeping me alive is inertia.

[Anonymous No.10737345]

>>10737297
>How does /sci/ deal with living in a wagecuck society?
I plan on working my ass off until i can have the option to no longer work. I'll probably hate it all the way there as well, but it seems to be the only way out of this hellhole. Doing nothing wasn't that nice either tho d3su. The benefit now is that I'm too tired to actually have suicidal thoughts for too long since I just fall asleep from exhaustion instead. The company trips will be tough. But I guess there will be beer.

[Anonymous No.10737366]

>>10737345
>my plan is to be miserable and hope something magical happens to fix everything

[Anonymous No.10737369]

>>10737297
By coming here instead of working.

[Anonymous No.10737377]

>>10737297
Well, I just see it for what it is. I want money to have a good life with my wife and buy a house. Academia would have delayed this by years and even then that's not a guarantee for a job. Every day I think about the Chinese guy who is famous for advancing the twin prime conjecture but was fucking working at Subway. I say fuck that shit.

I also work with good people who I'm happy to cooperate with.

[Anonymous No.10737548]

>>10737297
Heck no, academia is worse currently.

[Anonymous No.10738079]

>>10737297
Why don't you use your free time to get off your ass and utilize the money you've got to find a way to get yourself out of the shitty code monkey job and retire early?

[Anonymous No.10738093]

>BSc in mathematics with minor in physics
>learn the true intrinsic nature of reality and get an earth-shattering wisdom and critical thinking allowing me to win any debate
>guaranteed Wall Street VIP right out of college
>mfw code monkeys with CS PhDs will starve to death as they make my McTendies
Keep seething, faggots. The market wants people who can integrate by parts in dimension 4, not copelets who think they're the shit cause they can make Python scripts that read numbers.

[Anonymous No.10738101]

>>10738093
>mfw code monkeys with CS PhDs will starve to death as they make my McTendies

not if I off myself first :>)

[Anonymous No.10738134]

It's very simple as always when tech is not up to par in society effort is required to secure a living. In some ages it was badly possible to do so, crops could fail, disease and so on. Today also effort is required, much less of it than at some times before.

The only difference being succeeding is no longer limited, it is a matter of wanting it enough to aquire wealth. Before it was not possible for anyone like now. Effort is required, some chose to view it as being Controled or enslaved only because it can be used as an excuse. And those that view others as their slaves also know they depend on those that work in their companies and if they don't they can be overthrown!

The sheer reality is it's a matter of want today, equal to 90% of the world in terms of chance! When it comes to work and wage, level and so on. Career choice is the same concept the want and effort! You can code or farm and all inbtw!

[Anonymous No.10738449]

>>10737297

Could this plan to cheat society work?

>Make a shit load of money with drugs.
>Buy a fuck ton of anime merchandise in person, claiming you have slowly acquired it over time.
>Get a loan, set up a store for anime merchandise for cheap. Business license of a sole proprietor. Work M-F 10am-8pm.
>Keep all receipts. Make just enough to pay the bills. Pay for expensive shit with cash.
>Study all you want during your free time working a passive job

Well?

[Anonymous No.10738476]

>>10738449
How is that cheating society? Sounds like something you wont do anyways.

[Anonymous No.10738492]

>>10738449
>lol im going to cheat society by stimulating the economy
Thats called being a decent human being, except for the drug part of course.its better then 80% of society to create jobs and products anyways.

[Anonymous No.10738503]

>>10737377
I'm just entering uni and I have exactly your career goals. Everyone is screaming about changing the world and I just want my future family to be financially independent ASAP. What advice would you give me?

[Anonymous No.10738505]

>>10738093
Renaissance Technologies wants to know you're location.

[Anonymous No.10738511]

>>10738449
much easier ways to launder society, but if operating an anime merch store is your dream, then go for it. As for whether you're "cheating" society, it reminds me of this skit: http://www.cc.com/video-clips/acaxis/key-and-peele-the-heist

[Anonymous No.10738566]

>>10738476
>How is that cheating society?

It's called laundering money for a living with a story the IRS could accept. Especially if you stay current with anime.

>>10738492
If you want to still be apart of society and NOT live with mommy and daddy forever you better fool the IRS. Sure dealing drugs is scummy but so are managers abusing their powers on wagecucks. It is not fair. They cap your opportunities to climb the ladder. They use fear and "correctional learning" tactics to enforce excessive discipline. Walking into the breakroom and seeing co-workers crying in a corner is a common occurrence. Fuck that.

[Anonymous No.10738568]

>>10738449
>work 60 hours a week
>cheating society

[Anonymous No.10738602]

>>10738511
Key and Peele is great. Thanks for the laugh anon.

>>10738568

>work 60 hours a week

You mean sit on my ass, watch anime/read/play games when the store is empty, and running a register with no boss to shit on me? I hardly call that labor.

>cheating society

Yes, laundering with a job so cringe that only weebs dare step foot in the store as a deterrent where all the inventory is free and prices are so cheap it's "criminal" sounds like an easy way out to me. Maybe not cheating, but exceptionally easy. Without a cover job you either live off grid or someone on grid supports and hides your ass forever...

So....this could work?

[Anonymous No.10738685]

By working in a job you don't hate, i work as a security guard at nights, basically do nothing i can't do at home. putting every month part of my income into high risk investments.

[Anonymous No.10738764]

>>10737297
Medical research is fun and I'll be happy doing it even for shit pay, as long as it is used to help people. Though the pay so far seems pretty good, so I am not too worried to begin with.

[Anonymous No.10738773]

>>10738764
>being this much of a faggot that you care if your bitchwork "helps" people

People are scum and deserve to die.

[Anonymous No.10738779]

>>10737297
Academia is just as bad as wagecucking unless you're a godly research scientist who's paid to do whatever you want. Papers for the sake of papers and lots of drama from big egos

[Anonymous No.10738785]

>>10738773
wow, you sound like such a badass antihero

[Anonymous No.10738925]

>>10738602
>So....this could work?
Yeahy, why not. You don't have to
>>Buy a fuck ton of anime merchandise in person, claiming you have slowly acquired it over time.
Just use the loan to buy the merch too. You'll get it cheaper. Use the drug money as your safety net for paying back the loan. Fake your accounting in some way. Make it seem like you have bought and sold much more than you really have. Pay back loan quick, but never so quick that you use more money than you should have on the record. Now you're up and running.

[Anonymous No.10738967]

>>10737366
If nothing else, this magical thing will be a premature death. Or I can lie in my deathbed at 106 years old and think "Damn, I guess I were right all along", which will be satisfying enough. Then I were right all along. But I hope I'm wrong

[Anonymous No.10738998]

>>10738449
>>Make a shit load of money with drugs.
How will you do this? If you attract too much attention, you'll either be arrested by the police, or murdered by criminals.

[Anonymous No.10739052]

>>10738093
>The market wants people who can integrate by parts in dimension 4
my fucking side

[Anonymous No.10739091]

>>10737297
Better than living in poverty/squalor/slavery. You weren't born ultra rich, but rich enough to earn leisure posting on cambodian woodworking forums. Suck it up and punch the clock wagie.

[Anonymous No.10739097]

>>10739091
I DONT WANNAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.10739115]

>>10738773
Working a job that serves for the betterment of humanity is way more fulfilling than working in a repetitive seemingly pointless job where you're just punching in numbers to make rich people richer.

[Anonymous No.10739126]

Crypto gains, research and work on projects for fun.

[Anonymous No.10740207]

>>10738925
The loan goes towards leasing the store entirely, shit is expensive. A register, card swipe, tables, racks, labels all cost too. The loan should be the absolute minimum necessary, while inventory is already paid off. At some point you gotta alter the accounting, I was thinking mark up certain items of value you want (ultimately selling them to friends irl or tossing them) to expensive prices and buy them with drug money yourself. Keep the rest below normal price so you get people who buy that stuff with card/cash to mask who buys what and when. Randomize the timing a "300 Madoka Magica Figure" sells to yourself when it's real value is 100. Do this in a believable fashion 20 times a month for 4000 total income laundered. The rest of the stuff that sells (which more than likely has little demand, these days if anyone wants anime stuff they just go online) is just extra pocket change that goes toward new inventory. Like you said pay off loan with believable income per month slowly not all at once.

>>10738998
Darknet vendor. Most dealers get their shit this way these days. Random blue box mail drop off far enough away from your residence so you don't end up shitting where you eat. No fingaprints either, just drugs in a birthday card. Sadly this depends on how long the market stays afloat, but make enough to carry you between markets when the whack-a-mole market busts happen and it should work. Unless crypto dies/a new method of screening all mail is implemented the route can't be broken.

[Anonymous No.10740215]

>Field biologist
>Spend most of my time away from civilization collecting penguin shit
>Rarely have to deal with wage cucks
>Only have to deal with reality of environment collapse because of human activity

[Anonymous No.10740217]

Pic related keeps giving me the will to live. If pieces of shit like this can justify living so can i

[Anonymous No.10740225]

>>10737297
technocracy now! rise up brothers and begin the revolution

[Anonymous No.10740226]

>>10740217
>nihilistic pro troll

[Anonymous No.10740234]

>>10737297
>Just let the machines take over 75% of blue collar jobs
>Institute free collage (mandatory or not) so people can get higher education and white-collar jobs
>profit

[Anonymous No.10740255]

>>10738093
>guaranteed
>still in college
You are in for a rude awakening, sweaty.

[Anonymous No.10740280]

>>10737297
Just get into stocks and stock options, its literally common sense. Also as a code monkey, you could potentially write and sell algorithms.

[Anonymous No.10740281]

>>10740217
Based Kurt
I fucking hate those stupid sob stories that get used to spin a stupid naritive.

[Anonymous No.10740334]

>>10740217
Why does this yemeni mother has a beard?

[Anonymous No.10740340]

>>10740334
That's her husband

[Anonymous No.10740345]

>>10740281
Yeah it's good to be honest. You're only pro life till the baby is born. After that it's not murder to kill em right?

[Anonymous No.10740371]

40 yo boomer here. Guys you have to get past this ""life isn't fair" bullshit. Because of course it's not. But using that as your excuse is the same as pretty much poisoning yourselfs.

You will look up in 20 years and realize that you could have still gone out and did what you were meant to do.

All I am saying is after the first few years of this shit you needed to move on and find your greener pastures.

[Anonymous No.10740407]

>>10737297
The other alternatives are to be unemployed or a business owner. Being in STEM gives you that very strong potential to become a very important part of the economy.

[Anonymous No.10740456]

>>10738602
shut the fuck up fucking weeb

[Anonymous No.10740466]

>>10740371
Move out where? Move out to a farm house or something?

[Anonymous No.10740542]

>>10737297
I don't any more. Got into accounting and now I do a mix of contracting from home and running a business with my wife. If this season goes well she won't have to work for anyone else any more, and if the season after that or the other business I'm setting up now go well I won't have to contract any more either.

[Anonymous No.10740583]

>>10740542
Tell me about your wife. How did you meet and what would you say is the reason you guys decided to get married

[Anonymous No.10740910]

>>10740583
I don't know how that's even slightly on topic, but we first got together when she was referred my way for help with stats (which I was studying - she was studying entomology). We'd met years before and knew each other through mutual friends but nothing came of that since we were both seeing other people and usually living in different cities. We decided to get married for the same reasons I imagine most people do - we love each other and are very compatible. Been together a bit over 5 years and married for 3.5 of them. No regrets, except for never finishing that stats degree.

[Anonymous No.10740947]

I learned a technical trade and get paid by the sweat of my brow. I'm also using my income to pay for my academic ambitions. My only debt is my mortgage.

[Anonymous No.10741414]

>>10740910
I thought it was gonna be a cute boomer story filled with social anxiety and shit that I could relate to but it was just a normie story. Disappointing. The hunt goes on. Have fun I guess.

[Anonymous No.10741455]

>>10741414
We both had issues with anxiety but remedied them. I recommend CBT.

[Anonymous No.10741471]

I use my knowledge of science and mathematics to avoid spending wealth on over priced consumerist garbage. Life suddenly becomes easier when you can do $500 of auto repairs in two hours. Then you invest those savings and use more mathematics to earn more wealth, which you reinvest in an endless loop.

A large fries at McDonald's is about $2.50. For that same $2.50, you can get a weeks supply of rice. How much easier do you need life to be? Our ancestors would have given all for a chance to get a weeks supply of rice for a fraction of an hour of labor. Never in my life have I gone a day without three square meals; do you have any idea what an absolute miracle this is? We live in the best of times.

[Anonymous No.10741489]

>>10737297
>living
I have never referred to myself this way.

[Anonymous No.10741490]

>>10741455
Cock and ball torture just makes me more anxious.

[Anonymous No.10741793]

>>10740345
Whatever, boomers are easily manipulated subhumans. No matter what forces them to vote is fair game.

[Anonymous No.10741816]

>>10741455
>CBT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IwYakbxmxo

[Anonymous No.10741829]

>>10740225
>Technocrats thinks it's a good idea to rise up now about a decade before a looming energy crisis and a century long enviromental collapse
too late anon, anarcho primitivism is honestly a better alternative at this point
I do however grasp the point that there can't be a enviromental collapse if there is no enviroment.

[Anonymous No.10741831]

>>10740234
you forgot
>decrease the population to sustainable levels

[Anonymous No.10742068]

>>10740217
it's not so bad, many of them will die of starvation if not saudi bullets

[Anonymous No.10742155]

The FIRE movement has been a thing for a while now and you still want to deal with being born in a wageslave society by doing exactly what your boss wants you to do. No, please.

>work your ass off to get a high-paying job
>be frugal
>save a good portion of your income, preferentially >50%
>invest wisely
>also avoid having having a wife and children, these are money drains
>do this for, 5, 10, 15 years, whatever time is needed to gather your retirement sum
>retire before forty, say "go fuck yourself" to your boss and go work on your passion projects, or lurk on 4chan all day long, whatever

But no, you all want to
>muh consumerism
>muh moist holes
>"who cares about the future?"

[Anonymous No.10742159]

>>10740217
I don't care either, keep on living pal.

[Anonymous No.10742313]

>>10739052
You'd think he is joking, but if you could make a piece of hardware to estimate values based on 4 dimensional algorithms, you could actually own the stock market.

[Anonymous No.10742339]

>>10741831
>decrease the population to sustainable levels

via space colonization

[Anonymous No.10742341]

>>10742155
>avoid having a wife
GOOD GOY. Since the [REDACTED] forced women into the workforce and flooded the job market, salaries have stagnated (look it up). If you even want to earn enough to live at the wealth level of your grandparents you need a dual income to compensate. You are retarded.

[Anonymous No.10742346]

>>10742341
You need a dual income to compensate if you want to have a family.
No expenses no wife.

[Anonymous No.10742351]

>>10742346
You’ll either still spend even more on thots, or not even have sex. If you are going for the sexless, please shoot up a school far away from me.

[Anonymous No.10742360]

>>10738511
wew lad

[Anonymous No.10742388]

>>10742351
Your words have no power over me. I'm a volcel. I don't need any contact with girls. I haven't fapped in months

[Anonymous No.10742393]

>>10740466
Why not? Shit in a hole, cook over a fire. Try not to starve or get dysentery.

[Anonymous No.10742396]

>>10737328
Sad

[Anonymous No.10742406]

>>10742388
Good for you. I’m just going to drop this article about the dangers of not having sex. https://www.webmd.com/sex/stop-having-sex-health

Ignore the parts about couples obviously. Also there’s a reason why priests end up raping kids. Your brain gets toasted without sex.

[Anonymous No.10742415]

>>10742406
So a tiny immune system boost and a tiny decrease in prostate cancer rates.
Well I guess I can do without that stuff.

[Anonymous No.10742453]

>>10742415
Don’t forget the stress
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301051105000736

[Anonymous No.10742454]

>>10742406
>webmd
cringe
>Also there’s a reason why priests end up raping kids.
Wrong. Its because they admitted anyone with a pulse, including a sizable amount of sodomites to seminary in the 1970s, who do not practice celibacy in the first place.
>Your brain gets toasted without sex.
It does not. It works better and smoother as it is no longer clouded by something this distracting.

If you ever abstained you'd know your sex drive becomes lower with abstinence. You never practiced true abstinence as you still looked at sexual stimulus and still fantasized and lusted. I once masturbated 3+ times the day before a interview and had trouble controlling an erection with an attractive female interviewing.

This NEVER happens if I am successfully abstinent for weeks or months. Sexual thoughts do not even cross my mind and if they do they can be dismissed at once. The penis itself becomes smaller when flaccid because it is not in a hypersexual state geared for nonstop release. You're a retard talking from your own inability to control yourself and have never experienced the bliss and freedom of true abstinence which is better than having a harem of women 24/7.
>>10742415
The immune system boost is the same thing that causes autoimmune dysfunction and inflammation.

Also, some studies show that sexual excess actually is associated with prostate cancer, for young men in particular.

[Anonymous No.10742457]

>>10742453
Sexual activity literally increases cortisol in males, which is THE stress hormone.

[Anonymous No.10742459]

>>10742453
Well I doubt stress would go down for me even if I had a wife desu. Wouldn't want her to suffer because of it either.
I care more about the companionship aspect than the sexual aspect. I'd rather be alone than with the wrong person for the sake of being a normie.

>>10742454
That's a relief

[Anonymous No.10742461]

>>10742454
>calls webmd cringe
>posts no source for his bullshit

Cringe and bluepilled. What about https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301051105000736

[Anonymous No.10742467]

>>10742457
Nice so published biologists lack knowledge of basic hormones. How stupid must they be! You, an internet retard, know better.

[Anonymous No.10742478]

>>10737303
>Creating useful wealth
Your chances of actually having a job where this is done dwindle every day. Also, no chance if you live in America or Western Europe. Those jobs are gone and they aren't coming back.

[Anonymous No.10742498]

>>10742461
>no source
Here's some sources:

>Sexual activity and prostate cancer risk in men diagnosed at a younger age
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.x

>Whereas frequent overall sexual activity in younger life (20s) increased the disease risk, it appeared to be protective against the disease when older (50s). Alone, frequent masturbation activity was a marker for increased risk in the 20s and 30s

>Prostate cancer mortality among Catholic priests.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7242091/

>muh what about this shit tier study with an n=22
>results are hardly practically significant
Also, less BP reactivity does not mean anything for actual stress. It just means less catecholoamines are produced, which is disadvantageous for cognition. Just means cumbrains have less DA and NE.

As for it actually increasing a measure of stress, here you go.
Cortisol increases:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/402399
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2509408

>>10742467
>REEEE! Here it is again!
You've proven yourself to be a total retard not knowing what the researchers even are. They are not "biologists" in the studies you linked, mouthbreather cumbrain non-researcher.