GenZ Suicide

[Anonymous No.10737093]

What is causing the epidemic of suicide among GenZ?
https://www.axios.com/suicide-generation-z-epidemic-cee7990a-243e-489c-8242-2aefc545bba7.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/suicide-rates-among-young-people-reach-their-highest-level-2000-n1018376
I don't wanna say it's technology, but it's technology
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/has-the-smartphone-destroyed-a-generation/534198/
Also the CDC has reported unusually high suicide rates among young people in a particularly relevant area of the country
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/03/03/cdc-report-youth-suicide-rates-in-county-highest-in-palo-alto-morgan-hill/

[Anonymous No.10737096]

>>10737093
I refuse to believe this is happening. Nothing good ever happens in this world.

[Anonymous No.10737098]

Lack of religion is Probably a big part, most boomers unironically should have killed themselves but didn't because they thought they'd burn for all eternity for it. GenZ has no such belief.

[Anonymous No.10737103]

>>10737093
maybe its the notion of working 5 days a week to make some BS corp rich while yada yada yada, its a hard time finding true happiness imo

[Anonymous No.10737105]

>>10737093
>Also the CDC has reported unusually high suicide rates among young people in a particularly relevant area of the country
>Palo Alto
>Morgan Hill

[Anonymous No.10737109]

>>10737093
The males have been coaxed into developing as “emotionally open” emasculate doormats and the mentally ill women have lots of groups to find online who accept and encourage retarded behaviour, I like to think that eventually these girls end up figuring out that their lifestyle is stupid and off themselves for the good of the genepool/ahkmed

[Anonymous No.10737145]

>>10737093

Every fucking media outlet, scholar, and person in the world can't stop talking about how GenZ is better, more independent and more optimistic than Millenials for the last 10 years.

It really does make you think does it not.

[Anonymous No.10737181]

>>10737145
Which ones? Jordan Peterson? There is not a lick of difference between gens z and y. Except that perhaps whatever ailed y is even more pronounced for z. Sorry if that offends you.

[Anonymous No.10737184]

>>10737093
Vaccines and wireless devices. Literally.

[Anonymous No.10737195]

>>10737181

Just look up "millenials vs gen z" on google. You'll see every article is bashing millenials for being snowflakes and putting gen z on a pedestal.

[Anonymous No.10737203]

>>10737093
19-year-old gen Z here. I can guess it's because we know the world is shit. Back in high school the atmosphere around working was pretty grim and competitive, especially since to get any decent job you need thousands of dollars worth of an education and experience. Obviously most people do not have this wealth at such a young age and are forced to go into debt and sacrifice luxuries. It doesn't help there is a constant bias for appropriate behaviour and the slightest mistake can cost you your career. Being raised in such an over-populated, multicultural society damages the cohesion and well-being of that society because each race tends to stick together and divide the country even more. Relationships have been ruined and replaced with hook-up cultures. Most women you see on the street are dressed like hookers and have a tendency to accuse you of rape or harassment at a moment's notice.

So not only do you need to go into great debt to get an education that may or not get you a decent job, you need to compete with numerous other people and be the right race because some companies will not hire you if you're white. And even if you get that job, you're in such a delicate position such that if you say anything rude or be politically incorrect, it could all come tumbling down in an instant and you're back at the start again. It's the ultimate game of snakes and ladders, except that the board keeps getting more cluttered with players and the weather gets hotter and hotter every turn.

At least we have the internet to keep us comfortable and sane... Oh, you're forcing me to leave home and get a job, mum and dad? No thanks, I'd rather die than deal with this world.

[Anonymous No.10737206]

>>10737195
That's pretty fucking hilarious considering the zoomers are the most triggered faggot babies in the history of the world. Fucking boomers have stronger spines tham zoomers and they whine about literally everything.

[Anonymous No.10737223]

genz are not used to struugles. They cant handle any problem. For them it's easier to kill themself rather than suffer for long time or get some help.

[Anonymous No.10737236]

Do you blame them ?

[Anonymous No.10737241]

>>10737223
This is because their health has been destroyed and they have brain damage. It's not all social and developmental maladaptation.

[Anonymous No.10737291]

>>10737203
This is a super cringe post. Do faggot Zoomers really think this way?
Jk I’m right on the edge of Zoomer, 21 years old and I’m not as big a faggot as you

[Anonymous No.10737351]

>>10737093
people posting 'kys'

[Anonymous No.10737356]

>>10737203
You described a very single minded small part of America.

This trend is global and most "problems" you named are confined to the US.

Look I'm in my late 20s and a millenial so It's not like I understand your mindset. However all those things you are saying were true for me as well. Hookup culture was MORE of a thing during my time in the Emo craze. There were no smartphones yet so it was far easier to cheat and people fucked like rabbits.

Social incompetent people were just ostrasized and never heard from again. Nowadays a nerd can just create a social media account, add people and hook up over the web or start conversing with people that way.

Do you realize how easy you have it compared to the past generations. Lots of what Gen Z is complaining about is actually just normal human nature that was always here.

Or do you seriously think this is the only time of SJWs, affirmative action, high university costs, high competition?

When I graduated highschool it was the worst economic crisis in a century and literally everyone told me that there would be no jobs at all and going to uni would be a waste of time. I still went into debt while everyone basically said "yeah you're going to be unemployed". That is way worse for your anxiety and depression than the bullshit zoomers make up nowadays.

You are the most spoiled faggots I've ever experienced. I wonder if the next generation will be even more spoiled and you will be blaming their faggotry just like I am blaming yours.

Scrape yourself off the ground and man up you whiny pussy. Get out there and get a girlfriend. You're sheltered and completely out of touch with reality. I hope you realize that.

[Anonymous No.10737413]

>>10737203
23 here. It gets worse, trust me.
>>10737223
I did look for help, no one answered.
>inb4 muh psychologists
Fuck those hacks, they know nothing. They can't possibly know how it is to feel the demons consuming you from inside out and how our mental stability is at the mercy of them, how they constantly change your perception of reality, not in a visual sense, more like making you imagine things that aren't actually happening, like staging an argument you never had with someone, create an image of this person and change the way you feel about him/her based on this argument, and then you actually meet this person irl, only to have your mental vision of this person shattered again and again and again because this shit just keeps happening. Oh, and how it feels to imagine what people might of me and how I'm constantly failing despite my efforts. I can barely function socially anymore, my mind is just one big spectacle of delusions. It's crystal clear to everyone around me, including my mother, that I'm in suffer. My mother instead of actually helping, just keeps asking when I'm getting an internship or a part-time job, this of course destroys me from inside because I'm feeling like a leech (which I am) and she asks me in a way that implies "when will you leave, you parasite?". I keep telling her that I will as soon as my GPA improves because no one will hire me right now. It's either that or drop out and go back to the dead end jobs I was working at. Plus I have severe tinnitus.
I'll probably just fucking end it all in a year or two, this shit just keeps getting worse and worse, it's unbelievable.

[Anonymous No.10737418]

>>10737413
>23 here. It gets worse, trust me.
25 here, it actually kind of plateaued.

[Anonymous No.10737431]

>>10737093
>anxiety
>depression
>no guarantee of a better future

Choose all.

[Anonymous No.10737440]

>>10737356
>Social incompetent people were just ostrasized and never heard from again. Nowadays a nerd can just create a social media account, add people and hook up over the web or start conversing with people that way.

[Anonymous No.10737448]

>>10737440
You can, without ever leaving your house, talk to people online who you've never met before. Whether they're worth talking to and worth considering as a "social life" is a totally different question.

[Anonymous No.10737464]

>>10737206
Find the Triggered Millennial.

[Anonymous No.10737610]

>>10737464
Zoomers are literally subhuman, deformed abominations.

[Anonymous No.10737636]

>>10737093
Late zoomer here. Probably a combination of poor parents, constant escapism, high expectations and rampent drug use.

[Anonymous No.10737701]

We need to stop this giving names to generations meme. But regardless, the suicides are because hippies ruined our culture and we've been reaping the rewards of their degeneracy since.

[Anonymous No.10737734]

There's genuinely no point to life. Suicide is a rational choice.

[Anonymous No.10737760]

Not disclosing my age but I'm an early zoomer. I've been to 4 secondary schools (the one I'm in now is for the psychologically ill) so I think I can speak for quite a few zoomers. Technology is unironically a large part, but a lot of deluded zoomers are so lost in the escapism it provides that they'll deny it and blame it on the older generations supposedly leaving them with "practically nothing" or on "chemical imbalances". The majority of them use the internet at least 9 hours a day minimum and it's been like that since they were kids. The only semblance of ideology they have bringing them together is the rise of anti-feminist culture that grew especially popular around 2017 - they're incredibly influenced by youtubers. There's the odd "all for equality"fag that is influenced by the education system too. The kids in my current school for the psychologically ill especially spend the internet and have almost no hobbies outside of that. The treatment we are provided are therapy (sometimes specialised but it's not much different from regular to be honest) which is pretty much telling said therapist your issues and they listen - thing is, lots of zoomers complain that it doesn't help much but to expect more than for therapists to listen and provide run-of-the-mill advice is idealistic. There isn't any sort of magical answer to having a lack of faith or drive. It's surprisingly easy to get medicine too but it obviously does not help much for the kind of mindset we have. I think we are just lost. Lots of edgy nihilists, as well as lots of overly-ambitious slackers. And this kind of depressed "culture" is probably the only thing that is actually strong among gen z, it gets romanticised a lot via memes even if they try to hide it and say that its a way to cope. No silent sufferers. My mum grew up during soviet times and she recently asked me what we have. Shes not political but she said that at least back when she were a communist, she had something to fight for. We don't.

[Anonymous No.10737769]

>>10737093
It's pretty obvious isn't it? It's not any single cause or event, but something first-world societies have been trending towards since the dawn of industrialization. We're growing more and more isolated from each other, we're becoming more seperated from the fruits of our labor, and life in general has become so easy we barely have to try anymore. In short, people are killing themselves because they're bored, existentially bored.

And the less that's required of us going forward, the less reason we'll have to go on living. Perhaps it's some kind of cosmic balancing force to account for overpopulation.

[Anonymous No.10737775]

>>10737203
>muh white genocide

[Anonymous No.10737778]

>>10737760
here. I also want to say that these are also true:
>>10737109
>>10737223
>>10737636
>>10737701
>>10737734
>>10737769

[Anonymous No.10737783]

>>10737093
Internet

[Anonymous No.10737801]

>>10737734
but yet you're alive

[Anonymous No.10737864]

>>10737801
How do you know?

[Anonymous No.10737866]

>>10737864
I hope you're not about to claim you can post on 4chan after death on a board dedicated to science lad

[Anonymous No.10737886]

>>10737093
I was born on 98 and I remember very well how out of nowhere smartphones just took over.
I was 14 and one day I was making calls to my friend’s house, sending a text every now and then, and instant messaging on the computer, suddenly all of this was over taken by having instant messaging constantly. None of the other communication channels is overwhelming and anxiety inducing like IM at the tip of your fingers 24h a day. Then there is social media which is a whole different, and way worse, beast.
50 years from now when this stuff gets properly regulated, people will look back at this shit and get shocked how it just ran amok like it was nothing. Sort of like how we look back to when smoking was considered something nice. No wonder kids are killing themselves.

[Anonymous No.10737906]

Zoomers are weird people. I don't like them. They're not like us. They don't respect technology and humanity. And they're edgy faggits

[Anonymous No.10737911]

>>10737906
But I blame hedonism and edgyness

[Anonymous No.10737918]

>>10737448
Not him but if you really can't see the contradiction you're making there you need to be shot.

[Anonymous No.10737930]

>companies won't hire you if you're white
Fuck off. It's the other way around. And you know it.

[Anonymous No.10737946]

>>10737093
>social media
>debt
>student loan debt
>everything cost so much now
>rise in homelessness
>loss in faith in humanity
>sjw uprise
>automation taking over the future you worked so hard for
>uncertainty In the future

In all seriousness it’s probably always been this bad.

[Anonymous No.10738071]

>>10737093
Because it is being presented as a fockin option. Every time a young chap dies, it's hyped up on the dam tellie and everyone loses their collective shit every dam time. If saduko is being presented as an option to your fackin peepholes for hours on end coupled with how the world is going to shit, why the hell wouldn't you gut urself from the laif list like the mindless little twat you are?

[Anonymous No.10738098]

>>10737093
>>10737203
It’s becuase they can see the future and know(or think) they don’t have one. If they are in the bottom 30% socially or academic they know they are fucked and will have. A struggling pitlefulmlife for the next 20 years at least. It really isn’t hard to see your own future

[Anonymous No.10738114]

>>10737351
>>10737356
>>10737223
>>10737911
>>10738071
Fucking this

[Anonymous No.10738119]

>>10738114
kys

[Anonymous No.10738124]

>>10738119
Case and fucking point

[Anonymous No.10738131]

>>10737223
>>10737109
>>10737291
>>10738098
>>10738071
>>10737223

[Anonymous No.10738132]

>>10737610
Still here

[Anonymous No.10738135]

>>10737203
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.10738140]

>>10737093
>What is causing the epidemic of suicide among GenZ?
We live in a society (except unironically).

[Anonymous No.10738143]

don’t know about the other zoomers, but I’m depressed become I’m a shut-in virgin NEET who’s afraid of the outside world. I’m also poor. I wasn’t always like this though, most of this stems from childhood experiences.

[Anonymous No.10738147]

>>10738143
upon further reflection, my depression may have come before I became a shut-in. the more times passes by, the harder it is to remember.

[Anonymous No.10738148]

We might never know.

[Anonymous No.10738152]

>>10737203

[Anonymous No.10738166]

is an option

[Anonymous No.10738181]

>>10737093
Whatever the cause is, it’s unique to the USA, because in Europe it’s not nearly as bad. My guess is it’s the grotesque economic inequality: student debt, stagnating wages, the path to a stable, secure life is narrow and treacherous. I’m so glad I don’t live in your shithole country.

[Anonymous No.10738186]

>>10738152
rent free

[Anonymous No.10738192]

>>10738181
But you rarely hear about poor people killing themselves, it's mainly the middle class.

[Anonymous No.10738194]

>>10738192
Because they are dumb and believe in "eternal punishment".

[Anonymous No.10738202]

>>10738194
>t.atheiest

[Anonymous No.10738212]

>>10738192
The USA barely has a middle class anymore, that’s the problem. America is the richest country in the world, but you wouldn’t know from looking at the “middle” class. It’s only because of the few grotesquely wealthy people who managed to lower their taxes continuously for the past 40 years, while deflecting the blame of the ensuing problems on immigrants.

[Anonymous No.10738218]

>>10737413
Dude you sound like the biggest pussy, you want to die cause mommy told you to get a job?

[Anonymous No.10738234]

>>10738192
Young people of today are worse off than their parents. This means that the kids of middle class parents can’t secure their parents’ lifestyle for themselves. At least if your parents are poor there’s nowhere to go but up, but it must suck seeing yourself do worse than your boomer parents who don’t understand why you can’t just get a good job like they did.

[Anonymous No.10738238]

>>10737203
>>10737413
kys

[Anonymous No.10738337]

>>10738218
No dude, read it again. The job thing is more of a nuisance, I'm already in one actually but doesn't pay enough.
My mind is constantly degenerating.

[Anonymous No.10738348]

>>10738234
>At least if your parents are poor there’s nowhere to go but up

[Anonymous No.10738351]

>>10737203
The internet is the reason you see the world like this in the first place. Go outside and judge for yourself whether reality is as debased and maddening as you so claim.

>>10737413
Learn some self discipline and take control of your delusions, start here if you have to socially considering you managed to write all of this out, and piece together a methodology for functioning with said impairment. Don't expect people to do it for you, you have to do the work yourself to regain control of your mental facilities.

[Anonymous No.10738353]

>>10738337
To be honest my man it dont make sense to me, could you give me an example.

[Anonymous No.10738355]

>>10738181
Unemployment is a thing in Europe too. Although school life is alot more chill so I don't see how zoomers are suffering so much. Things get back after school when you have to go to college and work on the side and that's the tough part.

[Anonymous No.10738360]

>>10737413
>>10737203
>Most white people voted trump so most people are racist
>Most companies are owned by whites
>Somehow whites like ME won't be hired by other racist whites
>I AM THE VICTIM
Wew

You are victims but not because the company owners are all SJWs, they are not because they voted trump

[Anonymous No.10738364]

>>10738348
Her parents weren't poor, and her mistake was getting involved with the wrong guy if I remember correctly. Her household was relatively stable until she "tried to be like the cool kids" and she may or may not have ended up with a daughter living happily.

[Anonymous No.10738384]

>>10738360
abnormally high iq post

[Anonymous No.10738407]

>>10738351
>start here if you have to socially considering you managed to write all of this out
Anon, this part is a bit confusing, but I get your point.
>>10738353
Alright. So I practice a certain sport, and I'm deeply involved in events happening in the city, so I help organize them, help train the kids, cleaning up the club, etc. That's how I'm actually earning some money. This is possible because my coach made it possible. He saw that I love the sport and will do anything to see it flourish in the region, hell I've practically worked for free for almost a year, only now I'm earning some cash. But there's a catch, he's "harsh but fair", but the harsh part is bad, like public humiliation bad. I haven't suffered that yet because I didn't give him a reason to.
OK, back to my delusions. Here's the thing about it: if I'm not constantly fed with "live information" of him and his traits (mainly the good traits) my head starts to create situations where he's antagonizing me, and then I resent him for this. This usually happens when he's out of the state playing some tournaments and have to stay away for a week or two, during this time he asks me to keep things in check in the training center, but it's all in text and he's blunt this way too. My mind makes him the devil, I believe it, and then when we meet again, my view of him shatters yet again.
That's one example, I hope it's enough.

[Anonymous No.10738438]

>>10738407
Ok I see, but why does it make you wanna die man? I get that sometimes but I mean not to that extent and not enough to want to die.

[Anonymous No.10738446]

>>10738407
I don't have a lot of time to continue posting, but I will say this. If your mind is creating situations where he antagonizes you and you can recognize them, either disregard them or accept that no one is perfect and that these things can happen. I don't know what you mean by "make him the devil" unless you mean these thoughts heavily obsess on generalizing him based on these antagonistic situations. I will say try to disect these situtations and analyze the feelings that come to mind in order to piece together an understanding of how they work. Perhaps even write them down in a notebook for visual recollection.

[Anonymous No.10738463]

>>10738446
Yeah man listen to this dude, try getting out more with some buds and party N shit might help.

>>10738407

[Anonymous No.10738464]

>>10738438
Add this to the fact that I'm a failure in every sector of my life. Now this paranoia has extended to everyone around me. This shit is actually recent, like a year or so and I'm already tired. I just can't connect to anyone anymore, be it family or friends. I'm getting deeper and deeper in this hole and became a burden for my family. The thought of being a parasite is what pushes me slowly but surely to suicide.
>>10738446
I mean that my mind distorts the image of him to the point where there's no redeeming quality of him until I meet him again. Writing it down right now helped a lot, actually, I haven't done it before.

Thank you both for listening.

[Anonymous No.10738483]

>>10738351
>Learn some self discipline and take control of your delusions, start here if you have to socially considering you managed to write all of this out, and piece together a methodology for functioning with said impairment. Don't expect people to do it for you, you have to do the work yourself to regain control of your mental facilities

Thanks brother. I don't know if I completely understand what you are saying but either way I think this is great advice. This is key: "piece together a methodology for functioning with said impairment" & "Don't expect people to do it for you, you have to do the work yourself to regain control of your mental facilities." I am a fully retarded man-baby oldfag neet. I've tried psychiatry but it is a legit scam. I tried drugs. I tried this modern age of s o y male emoting. I got "addicted" to escapism. Everything is shit. The world really is going to shit, just as it gets safer and more comfortable. I keep trying to find some magic knowledge or mantra or golden rule or sign to do the work for me, but of course nothing changes. Sometimes I try pretending I'm not retarded anymore but reality and my retardation conspire together and punch me in my very punchable face. I tried blaming my self then I tried blaming the world. But I have not done the work to make a change. This has been going on for fucking yeeeeears. I live Groundhog Day from hell. I keeping not to be retarded but that doesn't work. I think what I got to do if I want to escape this hell is to admit that I'm retarded, accept it, and then make a make navigating the world as the retard that I am. From there, moving forwards, I can work on accomplishing my goals and minimizing my retardedness. Acceptance and hard work or I will be here forever. Thanks again brother.

[Anonymous No.10738497]

>>10738407
I used to overthink about other people too. I still overthink but not as much about other people. You need to stop thinking for other people and taking things so personally. Judge people by their actions only. If someone seems unhappy/upset assume it's because of their life outside of you. Don't assume someone else's bad attitude has anything to do with you. Most peoples' affect has to do with something in their lives not related to you. Stop assuming the worse. Focus on action, what they do and what you do. If you are doing the best you can in any given situation then that is all you are responsibly for. If you are always doing the best thing with the given information you have under given circumstances then you have nothing to worry or even thin about. Maybe you make a mistake, maybe there is miscommunication, so what, deal with it and move on. If someone is legitamately being disrespectful then address it like a man, WITHOUT EMOTION, or change your situation. Your brain is running you around because you don't have enough to do and/or you are not getting enough exercise and/or taking care of yourself. Stop thinking for other people. Don't be insecure when you are doing the right thing. Never be a tough guy. Stop being so self absorbed you think everyones' bad attitude is about you. You are much less on other peoples' minds then you think.

[Anonymous No.10738527]

hot take:
Life has always sucked but todays suck is particularly suicide-inducing.
Mainly the lack of community/bonds, unrealistic expectations and societal anomie.
Hunter-gatherers had _harder_ lives but they didn't think about suicide.

[Anonymous No.10738561]

>>10738527
This is the truth. Hunter-gatherers had meaning and purpose - survive or die. All real problems were solved decades ago. We now have fake problems. We now are creating problems where there doesn't need to be any. Community and family are everything to social animals. We now have now so you must kill yourself. The media hates you too and the Globalist elites are stealing everything not bolted down.

[Anonymous No.10738613]

>>10738561
Uhhm, we still die though.

[Anonymous No.10738686]

>>10738613
Great, that's the meaningful bit so we can all just skip right to it.

[Anonymous No.10738781]

>People are committing suicide because they genuinely believe we're past the point of no return climate change-wise and we're all as good as dead right now

This all happened during the plague too. One third of Europe committed suicide at that time, in addition to the third that died from the plague, leaving only one third of the population to carry the torch. It's like we're living through such a time again right now.

That said, we are all going to die eventually anyway. Like, all at once, I mean. What difference does it make if it happens sooner rather than later? None at all.

[Anonymous No.10738831]

>>10737760
>escapism
Escapism, or rather the insane levels of it available today as compared to times past, saps too many people of their potential.

[Anonymous No.10738869]

>>10737734
>There's genuinely no point to life. Suicide is a rational choice.
This is the reason why Shakespeare is one of the most important English philosophers. In his Hamlet, he recognized that suicide is desirable at first glance, but upon closer examination it is actually not certain that suicide culminates in the desired result: eternal peace. It is quite possible that, given the unlikelihood of our existence compared to the infinitude of the dead or at least less aware universe, we might likely wake up anew in the same or another body, the second that we are dead.

[Anonymous No.10738878]

>>10738831
>or rather the insane levels of it available today as compared to times past
Ironically it's that the levels are at a horrible middle ground of insaneness. If you could get more escapism, you could live in total fantasy where your life has meaning again, even if it's "not real".

[Anonymous No.10738886]

>>10738878
Who will create this totally fabricate reality for you. AI? The paintings and music AI creates today are totally recognizable as AI-crated. I'm not saying this can't advance to levels where they CAN'T be recognizable as AI. I'm asking where will the AI's gain inspiration, as artist of the past had gained from artists who preceded them, if not from themselves, who we all already recognize as soulless, artless, calculating AIs?

[Anonymous No.10738894]

>>10738886
I just read my own post. I guess I just revealed the existing human mind as little more than a shitty AI.

[Anonymous No.10738896]

>>10737636
>>10737760
>>10738483
>>10738831
>more escapism

I agree with >>10738878

I actually don't think there's more successful escapism today. I think there's less. People try to escape, but it's impossible to escape unless there is something to escape from. Our reality is that everything is better than ever. There's nothing to escape from. That's what we really need to escape from. But this is too abstract of an escape for most people. In harder times, people could escape into their duties and hard work. Religion was a big one.

[Anonymous No.10738899]

>>10738896
This post taught me that it is impossible for human beings to communicate. Each word means something different to everyone else. As such, communication is impossible.

[Anonymous No.10738911]

>>10738899
I guess that's the nature of globalization or of a-culturalism. No one understands what anyone else means, even if they all supposedly speak the same universal "language", because there are no agreed-upon meanings, as there would have been in a mono-culture.

[Anonymous No.10738920]

>>10738886
>>10738894
It's a fair point, although maybe artists might not all want/need to escape to VR. It could be an interesting sci-fi story with a society of "escapists" supported by a smaller group of artists who make their false realities possible.

[Anonymous No.10738941]

A lack of religion is (sort of) the problem. All depression is at is core existential, and we need coping mechanisms to deal with the existential. However, it's not fair to expect people to deal with their existential fears through organised religions which are clearly fake. Instead there should be a cultural shift towards more spiritual and holistic ways of looking at life and existence. Particularly, we should be looking at ideas like metaphysics to try and understand our existence.

This being said, the modern economy is a massive part of the problem. There are ample resources to ensure that all people can live with a decent quality of life, yet wealth and resources always go to the top. Most people are never able to pursue their interests and dreams because they have to work for their entire lives. Literally waste the life they get making money for people richer than them. It's really fucked up and there's no reason the system has to be that way.

[Anonymous No.10738964]

>>10738941
>It's really fucked up and there's no reason the system has to be that way.
It's self perpetuating as long as the people genuinely interested in changing it are kept to a tiny minority.

[Anonymous No.10738971]

>>10738964
Absolutely. I feel guilty because I've actually found a relatively fulfilling part in the system and am scared to give it up at the risk of being worse off, but at this rate revolution does seem inevitable.

[Anonymous No.10738996]

>>10738899
Sorry. I see your point. What I will keep is that escapism is inherently impossible and usually pathological. This should underline the suffering of the escapist.

[Anonymous No.10739046]

>>10737413
>They can't possibly know how it is to feel the demons consuming you from inside out and how our mental stability is at the mercy of them, how they constantly change your perception of reality, not in a visual sense, more like making you imagine things that aren't actually happening, like staging an argument you never had with someone, create an image of this person and change the way you feel about him/her based on this argument, and then you actually meet this person irl, only to have your mental vision of this person shattered again and again and again because this shit just keeps happening. Oh, and how it feels to imagine what people might of me and how I'm constantly failing despite my efforts. I can barely function socially anymore, my mind is just one big spectacle of delusions. It's crystal clear to everyone around me, including my mother, that I'm in suffer. My mother instead of actually helping, just keeps asking when I'm getting an internship or a part-time job, this of course destroys me from inside because I'm feeling like a leech (which I am) and she asks me in a way that implies "when will you leave, you parasite?". I keep telling her that I will as soon as my GPA improves because no one will hire me right now. It's either that or drop out and go back to the dead end jobs I was working at.
Dude, just be yourself.

[Anonymous No.10739133]

>>10738941
>lack of hope is the problem
Tolstoy agrees

[Anonymous No.10739141]

genx parents in a boomer society with only lame gay ass millennials to look up to

[Anonymous No.10739144]

>>10739133
To elaborate, even though no one reads, everyone struggling with this question itt should read Tolstoy's A Confession.

To summarize it for the vast majority who are averse to reading, Tolstoy, an atheist, comes to understand what it is about religion that keeps religious people "going" so to speak. He distills the essence of this down to "hope". Hope is something literally everyone alive needs if they ::hope:: to go on living. Otherwise, they are dead men walking. Literally the smallest negative life event can push them over the edge into self-inflicted death.

[Anonymous No.10739155]

>>10737093
Yes, yes, more sweet college age girls for my raging aging dick.
Please continue little boys. The older I get the better it is.

[Anonymous No.10739163]

skyrocketing amounts of man made microwave radiation cooking the brains and hormonal systems of the youth is the main reason

get that 5g phone lil zoom zoom

[Anonymous No.10739175]

>>10738941
I don't know. It was Aristotle who said that slavery would only become obsolete if needles could sew all on their own. (This evokes all the talk of automation, and god willing it will actually happen soon, freeing everyone from Earthly toil, but that's another post.) But for the time being, we all should willingly accept that we are glorified slaves by another name. So are birds. They are slaves to their existences. Birds must toil all day long to secure worms for eating and nests for shelter. Just as people did before civilization. Just as people do IN civilization today. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Suicide among the young in modern civilization is a symptom of a lack of preparedness for this reality. For some unknown reason, someone told us life should be easier than it actually is while we were growing up. Our brains are frozen in that state, shaped during our early development phase by this elaborate lie. This "someone" made a grave mistake in allowing us to believe this lie. And now they are refusing to pay the consequences for their actions, hoping this will all just blow over. It won't blow over. But virtually every other societal construct built over millennia will be blown down in the wake of this debacle, the most serious mistake of civilization ever made.

[Anonymous No.10739178]

>>10739175
>This evokes all the talk of automation, and god willing it will actually happen soon

[Anonymous No.10739206]

>>10739178
Automation gets discussed here like no tomorrow. Perhaps you're the one who just dropped in from reddit

[Anonymous No.10739221]

>>10737093
Because Gen Z are just as shitty as Millenials

>>10737203
>I can guess it's because we know the world is shit
every teenager "knows" this, I thought the same thing back when I was 15, I'm 23 now and know things are even worse.

You're just as fucked as we are.

[Anonymous No.10739225]

>>10737093
Poor social skills. Staying inside all day playing video games.

t. Gen Z. Not suicidal but the lack of human connection is depressing. I'm on the earlier end of the generation though. From what I hear it's a lot worse for the younger kids who are growing up in the era of video games which try to addict you as much as possible instead of just being enjoyable. At least if they're all video game addicts they'll have something to connect over.

[Anonymous No.10739231]

>>10739206
>NPC fails to decipher my post
true redditor

[Anonymous No.10739663]

>>10737093
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[Anonymous No.10741058]

>>10739144
Religious people don't actually take the metaphysics seriously. They cling to life just like people who know there's no Heaven. You'd think they'd be happy to go to the best conceivable place in existence, but they have fear like everyone else, because they haven't really thought everything through.

They memorize soundbites from the Bible or some politician or something from a movie that applies to a given situation and don't have any deeper thoughts on the matter. It's why people can have so many intellectually inconsistent thoughts, eg, "The government better keep it's damn dirty hands off my Social Security".

Most people don't want to contemplate the obvious meaninglessness of life, and honestly, why bother?

Anyway, the suicide thing is curious. Probably has something to do with the internet and the perception of success. Americans make it a much easier option by having so many guns around.

[Anonymous No.10741123]

>>10737760
>she had something to fight for. We don't
Thats just a you problem buddy

[Anonymous No.10741134]

>Boomers literally ravage the planet with polution and hands it over to next generation to fix
>Economy is shit. You either live with your parents until 24 when you graduate and get a good job to move out to an apartment or leave at 18-19 and get fucked in the ass forever
>The things you eat are packed with so much shit you don't even know what's in your food anymore. We are literally eating plastic in our diets now from polution (see first point)
>Technology made most people (can be mostly seen in America) extremely materialistic and seeking for social approval. Therefore you need to be on your phone sharing your life 24/7 to be considered normal. Otherwise you can live happy on your own and hope that you can find that 1/100 person who is like you.
>Getting a job requires you to suck someone's cock AND to have a few years (min 3) of experience in that field. Let's not forget the diploma and the sweet student loan debt that comes with it
>Jewefication of the world, Jews are everywhere now doing their deeds

>why are gen z depressed haha just work hard haha

Sure the technology is nice, but the quality of life is absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.10741398]

>>10737093
why live in this boring world right?
you feel depressed? just fix your shitty diet it will work because basically it's a chemical imbalance go in a healthy keto and don't eat more than 2 meals and you'll be fine
and suicide is not really a big problem

[Anonymous No.10741434]

>>10741134
>Sure the technology is nice, but the quality of life is absolute shit.
Which previous decade would you rather live in? Fantasy LARP answers not accepted.

[Anonymous No.10741457]

>>10741058
This

[Anonymous No.10741498]

For any zoomers reading this, if you are depressed or fed up with the outside world, you can take refuge inside your own selves. In order to do this, you have to conserve all your semen inside your body, and practice meditation 24/7. You can escape this samsara and enjoy uninterrupted peace and happiness and bliss.

Many wise men and sages became that way through the practice of Brahmacharya sadhana, both in ancient and in modern times. I'll leave this here for the benefit of all readers:

http://www.dlshq.org/download/brahmacharya.htm

Escape this world. Start meditation. Renounce all anger, and renounce all lust. Do all the practices in this book with full faith and I can guarantee you that your depression will be cured. However, note that I take no responsibility for what you decide to do with this knowledge.

[Anonymous No.10741504]

>>10741434
The 50s and 90s come to mind. Maybe even the 20s.

[Anonymous No.10741505]

>>10737093
>What is causing the epidemic of suicide among GenZ?
Exclusion from any meaningful gain in the modern economy.

Not suicidal by any means myself, but I've done the math of what it means to live in this world and I can't find a justification for why someone should try beating their head against this wall unless they want to.

[Anonymous No.10741508]

>>10741434
The 80's. Just being able to program made you a king. As long as it can stay the 80's so we never have the Eternal September, it'd be pretty cozy.

[Anonymous No.10741522]

Vaccines and pop culture
Also:
>zoomers
>killing themselves
>a bad thing
Lmfao nigger

[Anonymous No.10741593]

>>10741522
>Vaccines and pop culture
Both are perfectly safe and effective.

[Anonymous No.10741596]

>>10741508
>The 80's. Just being able to program made you a king.
King of what?

[Anonymous No.10741676]

>>10738192
Well fuck of course not who gives a shit about poor people dying. Its not like the news could even keep up with every suicide

[Anonymous No.10741710]

From the NBC article
>"Something is going on on a societal level,"
No shit. Tell us what it fucking is before we're all dead

[Anonymous No.10741718]

>>10737203

This. You got stupid replies because you are telling the truth. In this age, telling the truth is frowned upon.

[Anonymous No.10741754]

>>10737203
>At least we have the internet to keep us comfortable and sane...
Oh yeah, you sound like you're in great shape.

My suspicion is that it's the internet making the kids sick. Everyone but them seems to be having a great time in fabulous places, they can see the private parts of hottest chicks at any given time and therefore every possible date of appropriate hotness is a "roasty" and the (quite rightly) unattainable chicks are now bitches for not throwing themselves at these emotionally-stunted nerds...in short the kids think they "deserve" better and when they find out the world isn't giving up the goods, they freak out.

Not to mention the bots and trolls which heighten insecurity and hostility. Sometimes it seems like 4chan is nothing but Russian government employees trying to whip up the stupid blues and reds.

Maybe bad parenting has something to do with it too, but the internet seems to be the strongest and most obvious culprit.

Also everyone in high school throughout history has blamed the world and their parents and everything else for everything being shitty and they were right. They got over it.

Life is meaningless and unfair? No shit! Now go about carving out a life for yourself that's not too disagreeable and be happy that you're living the most comfortable life any generation of humans has ever experienced.

[Anonymous No.10741764]

>>10741754
The irony is that the better things get and the more instant gratification technology provides us, the more we seem to demand that things be better still. Humanity is quite literally spoiled by opulence. Humanity in the 21st century is not unlike the girl in this clip from my super sweet sixteen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEAxXcHYOXI
This poor girl experienced genuine anguish in that moment, yet people laugh at her. I'm pretty sure she killed herself after that

[Anonymous No.10741871]

>>10737093
The internet has done good things for the world connecting us politically but at the same time it widens our sense of awareness exponentially because we are made aware what individuals are doing and who they are in society. Social media makes this very easy. People want to know if you're a loser, they look you up on social media and check your social bank, if you have zeros then that's what people will assume you are. If you don't have social media, you're criticized for not having one and people assume you're at the bottom of the barrel.

[Anonymous No.10741879]

The internet, as used by the vast majority of people, is not good for you. Some people get mad and talk about the internet as some Abstract thing that has all this amazing information and is such a great thing for humanity, and it would be if it were actually used in that way, but the internet is ubitquitous enough now that we can say it’s not used in that way at all. It’s likely an addiction in many young people’s lives.

[Anonymous No.10741910]

>>10741871
It divided us politically even further than we already had been. What are you talking about? All the internet showed me is that the vast majority of people are literal schizos who should never ever have a platform for the jumbled thoughts that rattle around their pea brains because they just infect the rest of the world with them.

[Anonymous No.10741970]

>>10737760

The fuck' I'm a 28 year old zoomer?