/ENG/

[Anonymous No.10728382]

/ENG/ - Engineering general thread. Thread for both /ENG/ students and professionals. Post questions you have, interesting topics, or anything else related to /ENG/.

Been a long time since one of these was made. Normally threads are just a bunch of students bitching about school but now that its summer let's see how it turns out this time.

[Anonymous No.10728406]

How do I get out of this soul crushing cubicle/open office nightmare? I can't take it anymore.

I thought being an engineer would give me a fulfilling career of solving challenging problems, but it's not like that. When starting a new job there's lots of new challenges and things to learn for about six months, but then it becomes so boring and easy I have no sense of fulfillment and get depressed. For awhile I was starting a new job every year to cope but I've had to stop that because potential employers see the pattern and are scared to hire me. I chose exciting sounding jobs working with interesting technology but it was always the same.

Is academia any more interesting and fulfilling? I think getting a Master's or PHD might solve my problem but I'm worried it will be just more of the same.

[Anonymous No.10728410]

is biomedical engineering a meme

[Anonymous No.10728416]

Engineering is not science or math. It's glorified /diy/.

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.10728418]

>>10728416
this
>>>/diy/

[Anonymous No.10728422]

>>10728406
Yes.

>>10728410
Maybe

>>10728416
>>10728418
Nice inferiority complex

[Anonymous No.10728437]

>>10728422
maybe? elaborate

[Anonymous No.10728440]

>>10728437
Honestly I don't know. Some people say CompE or AeroE are bad cause they're too specialized and I think those people are idiots who are missing the point. I'm not sure about BioE though.

[Anonymous No.10728451]

>>10728410
BME major here
Go to top 50 US school and can tell touch that it’s one of the best degrees for the road to entrepreneurship; if you elaborate more on the meme I could deliver more detail, but generally speaking, you’ll be eatin’ gud cause the pay is great and there’s infinite choices in terms of specialization. Also the degree holds itself alone unlike chemistry and the meme bio where you have to get a PhD to even be considered relevant

[Anonymous No.10728452]

>>10728406
Yes it would look bad to employers if you keep changing. But sadly this is just the state of engineering unless you are one of the few that lands that unicorn job.

[Anonymous No.10728465]

>be me
>was dual microbio and chem major because I loved the subjects
>get to know grad students and find out how bleek and soul crushing it is getting your PhD.
>decide to switch to chemE because hey, chemistry + engineering is cool right??
>find out after 1st internship how most chemEs are paid shit unless they're in oil
>most chemEs work terrible hours in the shittiest parts of the country
>work isn't satisfying at all for most
>most work is just working at a plant maintaining your unit
>entry level positions are incredibly hard to find
>decide to switch to CS because better job locations, more $, and less work hours.
>find cs is so ungodly boring
>somehow harder for me to code than it was to do chemE.
>if i change majors again I'll end up being something like a 7th year student by the time I graduate with an absurd amount of debt.
I wish I could just hit the reset button on life. I was naive but happy just doing shit like learning ochem and working part time in a microbio lab. Now everything is soul crushing.

[Anonymous No.10728477]

>>10728465
>>10728406
BS-level work is soul crushing shit for most majors. Research is more comfy and fulfilling but you probably aren't gonna be rich just so you know. Oh and grad school is comfy and awesome (other than having low pay compared to salary job) but this is heavily dependent on having a good advisor

[Anonymous No.10728478]

Just graduated with an EE degree :)
Ask me anything

[Anonymous No.10728479]

>>10728478
come back when you have your phd

[Anonymous No.10728480]

>>10728478
how's job hunting going?

[Anonymous No.10728482]

So much happier now that I work in software. Engineering is a meme.

[Anonymous No.10728484]

>>10728482
why do you keep spamming this? its not even your pic, you aren't fooling anyone

[Anonymous No.10728486]

>>10728482
mind posting an updated timestamp? I have a couple questions for you about how you switched to software if you do

[Anonymous No.10728488]

>>10728486
are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.10728495]

>>10728488
its the 16th my dude, that says 13th.
plus this >>10728484

[Anonymous No.10728501]

>>10728495
i'm both of these >>10728484 >>10728488
and it seems that yes, you are retarded. also its fucking june

[Anonymous No.10728539]

>>10728406
It appears that MBAs are nowadays being trained to push their technical staff into higher and higher workloads until something breaks. They treat people as if they were machines. If your work ties you to a single terminal, they use computer logs and desk phone records to make sure you work 100% of the time. (In the old days it used to be time study bureaucrats, standing on the production line with stopwatches in their hand, and the trade unions were against this practice.)

In a fair society, employees should be allowed some control over how much work they do overall. They should have the option to work shorter hours for a reduced paycheck. That way the stress becomes more manageable.

[Anonymous No.10728546]

just graduated

it's a damn shame I only got a 3.1 though. I can't get into any grad schools if I ever get bored like
>>10728406

[Anonymous No.10728553]

>>10728539
so glad i work in research and there is not an MBA in sight. imagine being "managed" by one of those retards

[Anonymous No.10728567]

>>10728482
I don't think full time software employees are really better off. But as an engineer I can definitely state that being able to write programs helps in the execution of your duties.
In these days, post-Snowden, however, the MBA s detect this benefit through their snooping, and add more to your workload, to counteract that initial advantage.

[Anonymous No.10728571]

>>10728546
Yes you can. You just need to find an advisor who wants to have you as his student. Then your app is guaranteed to be accepted. I had a 3.01

[Anonymous No.10728604]

>>10728553
Unfortunately, sometime around the year 2000, a number of gullible engineers were conned into getting themselves an MBA as "Career Development". They were then given unlimited support in implementing measures to squeeze the blood out of their former colleagues in an ultimate act of betrayal.

Oh, and in the end, these Faust engineers would discover that they have no real power and would be ferried off to insignificant roles after finishing their "Death March" projects.

[Anonymous No.10728680]

>>10728416
mods are perfectly ok with /eng/ threads. they aren't as common as /med/ or /math/ threads but still accepted.

[Anonymous No.10728693]

>>10728539
For me the issue isn't the stress or workload it's the monotony of it. A manager has told me to my face "I think you should get a perfect performance review, but if I do that you'll get promoted and I really need you to keep doing the work you're doing". In every job I've worked the goal of management is to train new engineers do one very specific thing very quickly and efficiently, then keep doing that until retirement.

[Anonymous No.10728695]

>>10728693
Yeah dude, you should go into research.

[Anonymous No.10728706]

I’ve always hated engineers ever since some faggot told me he’d save more lives than me as a doctor

[Anonymous No.10728712]

>>10728706
What kind of doctor? A physician? There are way better ways to belittle a physician than that. He should have done better.

[Anonymous No.10728771]

>>10728406
Read the Industrial Society and Its Future

[Anonymous No.10728844]

>>10728571
What if you've been out of university for a decade? My GPA was too low for automatic grad school acceptance and I doubt any of my profs remember me. Does having a successful industry career get you in or do they still only care about your undergrad?

[Anonymous No.10728854]

>>10728844
It would probably help. You can always apply and see what happens. But it would be better if you did some networking and found a professor that wants you to work with him. Also helps to have your own funding if you get a fellowship or something. Btw I'm not saying to use your old professors from 10 years ago. I'm saying find a new one that is doing research in an area you like

[Anonymous No.10729039]

Almost done with my B.Sc in Materials Science and Engineering with a minor in Mathematics. I think I'd like to pursue a Sc.D or Ph.D in either Plasma Physics with a Materials focus or Materials Science/Applied Physics with a focus on clean energy.

By the time I'm out of graduate school, ITER should be doing first plasma (2025) and DEMO should be getting started. Anybody else here jerk off to sustainable energy or do you guys only study this shit for the paycheck?

[Anonymous No.10729069]

I am really disappointed how engineers are wasted on useless shit like creating overpriced plastic interior parts of a car, just because some rich fag wants to have "aesthetic" door handles on his stupid ass porsche. My brother ended up in such company that tests and optimizes these parts and just blows my mind how trivial that shit is, yet people still obsess over it.

[Anonymous No.10729101]

>>10728451
what do you do on your job daily?

about the “meme” thing, people keep saying that bioeng is just another mechanical engineering course with some courses on bio/med. you end up graduating not being the best at either fields a.k.a not prepared enough for med school and not good enough to be a well-rounded engineer.

[Anonymous No.10729121]

>>10728484
Owned.

>>10728486
Ask away.

>>10728567
I would rather be doing what I studied, but the fact of the matter is that engineering is a dead end career-wise. They literally doubled my pay when I started. My office is way nicer, I have catered lunches, and the work culture is so much more laid back. Engineers get no respect, and this is how it should have been.

[Anonymous No.10729136]

>>10728440
>I think those people are idiots who are missing the point
what's the point then?

[Anonymous No.10729156]

>>10728416
how engineering isn't science? Can you explain?

[Anonymous No.10729191]

>>10728440
In terms of /sci/ career satisfaction:

GOD TIER:
>Medicine
GOOD TIER:
>Computer science
YIKES TIER:
>mechanical engineering
>electrical engineering
MAJOR DEPRESSION TIER:
>ChemE
>AreoE
>BioE
>CompE
I'M GOING TO KYS MYSELF TIER:
>everything else

t. mechanical engineer

[Anonymous No.10729229]

>>10729191
>god tier career satisfaction
>medicine
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.10729233]

>>10729229
Egnineering is just like medicine but with a quarter the pay and constant threats of layoffs from management.

[Anonymous No.10729235]

>>10729229
Engineering is just like medicine but with a quarter the pay and constant threats of layoffs from management.

[Anonymous No.10729248]

>>10728382

[Anonymous No.10729544]

>>10729039
>By the time I'm out of graduate school, ITER should be doing first plasma (2025) and DEMO should be getting started. Anybody else here jerk off to sustainable energy or do you guys only study this shit for the paycheck?
I don't know shit about materials science/eng but I jerk off to other shit within my field.

>>10729069
their fault for selling out

>>10729101
>you end up graduating not being the best at either fields a.k.a not prepared enough for med school
nigga they let english majors into med school
>and not good enough to be a well-rounded engineer.
this is a meme. your only concern should be whether the degree gives you a good chance of employment. if you can actually get a job within your specialization then you wouldn't need to be more well rounded and better to focus on the specialization.

>>10729121
So why did your first pic have a 4chan filename?
>I would rather be doing what I studied, but the fact of the matter is that engineering is a dead end career-wise. They literally doubled my pay when I started. My office is way nicer, I have catered lunches, and the work culture is so much more laid back. Engineers get no respect, and this is how it should have been.
Oh, so you're just an asspained failure who thinks everyone else is going to fail just cause you did. Enjoy catering lunches lol how pathetic

>>10729136
I explained it earlier in this blogpost (the part about specialization).

[Anonymous No.10729573]

>>10729544
>Enjoy catering lunches lol how pathetic
Ok I read this wrong. Still pathetic though

[Anonymous No.10729728]

>>10729039
2nd year Undergraduate here. Major Material Science and Minor Material Science. Currently working under a professor on meta-materials. Would pursue Masters. What does the future look like to you for meta-materials and material science related.

[Anonymous No.10729765]

>>10729229
in my state, ppl are finding it harder to find jobs as engineers because so many low wage foreign workers are saturating the job market.

medicine is a safe route because it guarantees a job. (and you get paid a lot more money than a cuckgineer)

[Anonymous No.10729796]

>>10729235
you're conveniently leaving out that majority of medicine people have 6x the debt and work 2x as much.

[Anonymous No.10729812]

>>10729544
>>10729573
There's no way you're going to be making as much as I am right now, as long as you're an engineer lmfao

[Anonymous No.10729829]

>>10729812
maybe not but this isn't /biz/. i could actually make a lot more than i currently do if i switched to a different engineer job but i don't want to cause my job is awesome. if you were smart you'd either go with a fulfilling lower-payed job or go into a super high pay job like finance or some shit. you compromised on both fronts.

[Anonymous No.10729884]

>>10729829
>>10729812
he didn't compromise. he failed. also sneed

[Anonymous No.10729938]

>>10729829
>>10729884
Post more cope. I'm enjoying it.

[Anonymous No.10730001]

What are some less popular areas an engineer can work at that you guys think are interesting?
I'm currently pretty set on the area I want to work in as a mec engineer, but I'm wondering if there are other options I never thought about.
Sorry if this is too vague of a question

[Anonymous No.10730017]

>>10729938
Keep posting your failure image in all the threads. I'm enjoying your failure cope.

[Anonymous No.10730238]

>>10730017
There is a grain of truth in what you're saying. If I hadn't wasted time by falling for the engineering meme I would be making much more than I am right now. But enjoy your layoffs and 60 hour weeks, if that's what your mental image of success looks like lol.

[Anonymous No.10730244]

>>10730238
>There is a grain of truth in what you're saying
Of course there is. You literally failed. If you're alternative option is making you happy then good for you, but don't discourage people into thinking they can't have a good job in engineering because they can and it isn't that hard do so. Personally I would not want to be a BS-level engineer but there's nothing wrong with that even. If you go into engineering with the idea you're going to get rich or make bank and not just be middle class with a cool job then you went into it for the wrong reasons.
>enjoy your layoffs and 60 hour weeks
Neither of those concerns are relevant to me at all

[Anonymous No.10730320]

>>10730244
I went into engineering because I was interested in it from an early age. What I found in industry was a bunch of braindead soulless drones who had been beaten into accepting their shitty prospects by management. I am objectively a very good engineer, and I have the license to prove it, but I'm also smart enough to recognize when I'm being cuckolded.

[Anonymous No.10730324]

>>10728382
I’m going to graduate in Civil engineering next year
How hard is it to find an entry level traffic engineering job?
I couldn’t find any internships and have a slightly sub 3 gpa

[Anonymous No.10730327]

>>10730324
Are you the owner of a brown vagina?

[Anonymous No.10730329]

>>10730327
Snow White penis

[Anonymous No.10730332]

>>10730329
Hint: there is a reason why our roads are pants-on-head retarded.

[ZakuroTakashima No.10730348]

>>10728382
Homer the engineer! :^)

[Anonymous No.10730427]

>>10730320
>What I found in industry was a bunch of braindead soulless drones who had been beaten into accepting their shitty prospects by management
Where did you work? This is a big part of why I went into research. It's much more comfy and fulfilling and you aren't "managed" by MBA retards.

>>10730324
I have a textbook on traffic engineering. Always thought it was a really cool field, but it sucks when you have to cater your designs to account of human idiocy which is one reason I would never want to work on consumer products.

>>10730348
Formerly nuclear safety inspector

[Anonymous No.10730440]

>>10730427
That’s why I want to do autonomous drones, no human factor needed

[Anonymous No.10730502]

>>10730440
What kinda drones?

[Anonymous No.10730571]

>>10730502
Any kind they let me desu
But ideally delivery drones I guess

[Anonymous No.10730867]

Is two years enough experience that finding a job won't be so fucking miserable? I had a hell of a time getting hired when I was in college, now two years later the plant I work at is shutting down so I guess I have to do this shit again.

I seem to get more responses from EPCs and consulting companies, but am I right in thinking that those jobs are fucking miserable compared to working for an operating company?

[Anonymous No.10730891]

>>10730867
consulting companies will pay you more most of the time, but there's a fairly good chance you will work more and travel alot.

If ultimately you want to end up in some business type roles later on in your career, I'd recommend consulting route and make sure to network like hell.

If you want to stay as an engineer, keep searching for traditional roles.

[Anonymous No.10730960]

Anyone here former navy nuke? I'm transferring to shore soon and wondering what the best degree to get before i get out is. I was looking at the ASU online EE or SE program but if i anyone here has better ideas, thatd be awesome.

[Anonymous No.10731039]

>>10730960
best for what? i don't understand why people ask questions like this without explaining what their goals are

[Anonymous No.10731087]

>>10730960
my father was navy nuke and he went nuclear eng route, but that was back in 70s and 80s when nuclear wasn't as taboo as it is today.

Ultimately it depends on what you want to do man. You want to be an EE? go be an EE. You want to go be a chemE? go be a chemE. You want to go mechE? go mechE.

[Anonymous No.10731128]

Where should I study a semester abroad, bros?

EE here, interested in machine learning, signal processing and telecommunications. I have to choose between TUM (Technical University of Munich) and KTH in Stockholm. I only know English and Spanish (native).

I'm more inclined in going to TUM atm because I'd like to learn German, but I want to hear your opinions nevertheless.

[Anonymous No.10731136]

>>10728382
should i go for an aerospace engineer or should i just go and become a pilot?

[Anonymous No.10731164]

What should I do? I can't stop feeling like a failure.

Was a top grade student just one year ago and had plans on doing a Bsc. engineering Physics at KTH (very competitive) with a Msc. in theoretical CS.

About a year ago I thought I got a depression and turned extremely lethargic. I eventually started hallucinating and got tinnitus. Fortunately now I am getting better (not sure I'll ever become completely normal as I think I have
nerve damage).

This has lead to my attendence being 30% percent but it is in actuality much lower than that as some teachers have given me attendence even when I don't attend. I basically studied last day for every test. This worsened my grade average slightly as I got one B and one C (and 9 As).

Here I am now, just graduated with grades marginally not enough for engineering physics at KTH. I feel like I have failed. I have to options neither of which are good to be honest.

A: Take a sabbatical and take the admissions test (they do not consider grades)
B: just study Engineering physics or engineering mathematics at chalmers.

The big problem with chalmers (a university in Gothenburg) is that I dislike the city and have relatives there I'd rather not meet. Furthermore I had plans of taking a Bsc. In economics In parallel to my engineering studies (know a couple people who have done this) but the business school in Gothenburg sucks in comparison to Stockholm school of economics.

I want to give a more detailed post but this is getting long already.

[Anonymous No.10731185]

>>10729156
he's just coping with the fact he chose geology

[Anonymous No.10731198]

>>10731164
do euros seriously need to get straight As in every single class or else they're barred from great grad schools?

jesus christ lol

[Anonymous No.10731231]

>>10731198
Isn't it the same for the US?

In Sweden we have high school from age 16-19. Before you begin high school you choose specialization like for instance natural sciences (most common for STEM and medicine).
Then all your grades from all your courses from 16-19 get averaged. During the first year you often study math 1. That is one course. Math 2 is a completely different course. It's not that you can get shit math grades during first and second year and then do great during your last because they are different courses.

Furthermore, you don't apply to a grad school here but you apply to a specific program in a specific university unlike the US.

For instance Engineering Physics at KTH and medical school at Karolinska both are 21.98 grade average (you can get Max 4B's during the 3 years of high school).

CS at KTH is 20.3 I think which is about a B average.

EE at KTH is also around 20 I think.

Easiest medical school is 21.2 I think.

[Anonymous No.10731316]

>>10728406
If it is a job of course there will be repetition and boredom. You know that they already invented things like arts, sports and hobbies? Try one.

Did you expect a job like an action movie where all the time you have new challenges and everything changes. Seems cool while working in a boring one but in practice this cool action movie job would be extremely uncomfy and stressing. Also you'll never be good since only way to be good is by repetition. Don't know why still have this adhd mentality of repetition = bad. I'm only 25 but I already understand the need for repetition and boredom.

[Anonymous No.10731325]

>>10728465
chemE ends in either excel operator or glorified manager. If you pick 10 graduate from my class 5 will be working with coding for business inteligence or chat bots and 5 will be working in HR, managment and sales.

[Anonymous No.10731560]

>>10731136
AE is oversaturated, but pilots are gonna be automated away, pick your poison

[Anonymous No.10731581]

>>10731039
My goal is to get a bachelors degree while still in then use my gi bill for a masters. I havent figured out an end goal yet. I either want to get a MBA or get the double masters from MIT sloan from their program or just get a masters in whatever engineering i pick. My eventual end goal is to own my own business. Also willing to do math or cs major instead of engineering if its a better path towards self employment.
>>10731087
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.10731688]

>>10729544
What field are you in, anon?


>>10729728
>What does the future look like to you
Honestly, it's hard to say because we're learning new things every day with materials and sometimes a single discovery can greatly influence the entire field into that direction. Hell, we're still learning new things about graphene and it has shown us quite a bit about superconductivity this year alone. I can't speak for the actual materials, but I think the field will start to become more dependent on machine learning or artificial intelligence in the future for characterization and design which will certainly yield some very interesting results.

What are you researching specifically?

[Anonymous No.10731727]

>>10728382
Sneed

Also, is it enough to get into eng if I only care about physics and maths?

[Anonymous No.10731729]

>>10731688
Researching on acoustic meta-materials. My uni has pretty good lithography equipments so might do a couple fabrication projects on meta-materials as well. Fucked up my GPA really bad but got all A in material science courses. This might sound corny but I have studied for my mat. sci related courses for next sem as well. I will just need to refresh once and I could ace them easily. Thinking of taking up computational material science but my uni doesn't have good profs in that field. I don't have anything much on my hand so looking for something I could read. Maybe computational material science or quantum mechanics. I have developed a decent study ethic so I am pretty sure I am at my prime right now. I wanna read everything possible before I start getting lazy or go back to watching anime.

[Anonymous No.10731740]

>>10728406
Start a business.

[Anonymous No.10731742]

>>10731727
yes, electrical or mechanical

[Anonymous No.10732292]

>>10731729
You can grab some texts from Genesis Library and study on your own a bit. I'd recommend focusing on Quantum first since you gotta know QM if you wanna be a decent mat scientist / engineer at least. Computational Mat Sci is pretty cool but I'd save that for more of a senior elective.

Overall GPA is a meme too. Keep getting As in your major and keep doing your research and/or put out some projects and you'll do great anon.

[Anonymous No.10732348]

>>10729121
What's your opinion on the push to open up the FE and PE to "engineering" technology? A bunch purdue polytech faculty are bitching that their graduates aren't getting respect and career prospects, hence the push for opening up the licensing process.

[Anonymous No.10732616]

>>10729191
AeroEngi major here, wasn't very smart/motivated in hs and got into an ok state uni when something clicked and now I'm getting straight As

my thing is, when I'm studying and learning the things I love I feel incredible, but nothing seems as much a waste of my life as getting a quiet desk job doing some menial shit.

Am I fucked? I'm willing to work as hard as necessary to do something I think isn't a waste, but I might as well kill myself now if my life is going to be reduced to keeping my head down and giving up on doing anything at all becoming of a man.

[Anonymous No.10732734]

Would it be worth it to retake the one class I got a C in to try to get an A and boost my gpa slightly? It wouldnt cost anymore money as i have a scholarship and my schedule is already only 2 classes + research. I plan to apply to grad school in january 2020. It will bump my gpa from 3.76 to 3.81, so not too much

[Anonymous No.10733163]

>>10731581
Any more help would be greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.10733165]

>>10728382
Hey, im a venezuelan EE student, im graduating in about a year.

I wanna get a good entry level job in the us as soon as I graduate, is that possible? Im a french national too if that helps, but I def not wanna go to europe and make shit cash

[Anonymous No.10733253]

Alot of you guys need to reevaluate your view on life. 95-98% of people won't end up doing some work that's dreamy and has them so excited to go to work, that they for the first time in their life they become a workaholic because how much they enjoy their job. Most people don't get to go work on some cool project like being on the team that gets to genetically engineer babies. Most people won't be on the team that gets to work on cold fusion. Most people won't be working for nasa getting to design a brand new space shuttle. Most engineers just do some work like making sure X and Y are running as they should. That's sadly the way the world works.

We tell people, "follow your passion" but this just leaves 98% of people feeling unsatisfied in life because they either don't know their passion, or can't go live it out. You need to learn how to be content and like some aspects of your job even if it wasn't that dream job you pictured when you were a naive freshmen who thought they'd be the next einstein.

[Anonymous No.10733265]

>>10733253
I figured this out early, dropped out of hs and I work at a grocery store. Instead of taking school to learn electrical engineering I just taught myself so that I can design and build guitar pedals to sell to blues lawyers.

[Anonymous No.10733268]

>>10732734
Most schools don't even allow you to retake and replace grades in classes where you got a C- or higher.

[Anonymous No.10733273]

>>10728416
This.

Engineers riddle me this: how do you find the ground state of a quantum system with no exact solution?

[Anonymous No.10733309]

>>10733268
My school does but averages the new grade with the old or some shit. Their gpa calculator says so too

[Anonymous No.10733351]

>>10731560
We have had the technology to automate pilots away for almost 50 years now, but it is never going to happen because of safety and legal reasons.

[Anonymous No.10733353]

>>10733273
that is for R&D, i just scale it up

[Anonymous No.10733811]

>>10733273
I would guess a wave-function and then vary its parameters until I found the lowest energy solution.

[Anonymous No.10733910]

>>10733253
That's because most people just follow xyz instead of thinking for themselves and/or pursuing it on their own will. People are all about handouts and staying in their comfort zone anymore. It seems hardly anybody does projects just for the sake of fun or science, and stuff like that is what makes someone stand out.

[Anonymous No.10733943]

>>10733165
Pls Help

[Anonymous No.10733950]

>>10733943
How can you even study EE when your country doesn't have electricity??

[Anonymous No.10733951]

Just bought one of these with my softwarebux lmao

[Anonymous No.10733962]

Damn guys. I was awarded my degree in EE, but I havent applied anywhere. Its been a month or so since I graduated and my resume is not even done. I look at job listings and I feel I dont know shit or feel like I dont know enough. Just feeling discouraged. On the other hand, i read online that when hiring, a lot of time the new comers the engineering team interviews doesnt even meet all of the requirements they list, so I dont even know. Any tips? Just hoping I can land a job before summer ends.

[Anonymous No.10733965]

>>10733962
absolutely memed

[Anonymous No.10733967]

>>10731164
Don’t worry about the city, the city is huge, and shit like that you will look back on and cringe hard
>I can’t belive I didn’t go because I thought the city would suck and some relatives.
Child talk

[Anonymous No.10733982]

>>10733962
Just apply, my office got a new AE hire a while back, dude barely knows how to use Excel, struggles to find the moment of inertia of a cross section, and has never used a unix-like OS before.

[Anonymous No.10733986]

>>10733950
My countrys power industry is completely destroyed because its in the hands of a totalitarian, evil communist regime.
There are literally 0 actually qualified EEs working there, its ran purely by the military.

I study EE in a private uni, higher education in my country used to be top notch at public unis but the regime destroyed that too, so all the professors either moved to private schools or left the country. So now higher education from private unis is top notch.

[Anonymous No.10734035]

>>10733165
Your best bet would be to go to grad school in the US, network/do internships while you're getting your degree, then try to line up a full-time job once you graduate. Real long shot, though.

[Anonymous No.10734063]

>>10734035
I know a lot of people that simply applied for a job and got hired.
Grad studies in america are simply way too expensive

[Anonymous No.10734225]

how do i ask a professor to get into reasearch experience? mostly just want it for the 3 credit hours and i might apply to some masters later on. i had a class with him and got an A but didnt really talk at all

[Anonymous No.10734463]

going into university for mecheng this fall
is it delusional of me to be dreaming about starting my own business of designing and prototyping products and selling them to bigger corporations?

[Anonymous No.10734696]

>>10731231
lmao that's retarded
the performance required to get into schools ought to be the current performance, not the performance three years ago

[Anonymous No.10734771]

bridges and dams are cool

[Anonymous No.10734779]

>>10734771
firearms and cheap but small and rugged consumer products are cool

[Anonymous No.10735168]

>>10733910
>>10733253
This is what scares me. Engineering is better than most careers, but it's really not the ideal job we were told as undergrads. You aren't constantly solving new problems and working with cool new stuff. It's actually incredibly repetitive and just keeps the cogs turning for society.

Research has its perks but the downside is you'll be poor and you only have a very small chance of your research likely amounting to anything significant.

I don't want to be stuck in this shit forever of just working for the "man" but I don't know what to do about it.

[Anonymous No.10735258]

>>10735168
phd increases lifetime earnings over a masters and bachelors in engineering though, doing research isnt necessarily low wage at all

[Anonymous No.10735271]

>>10728451
I thought everyone in the biotech industry has a graduate degree (thanks to supply oversaturation), thus making life as a BS infinitely harder? How is biotech good for entrepreneurship if you need a graduate degree just to get your foot in the door?

[Anonymous No.10735272]

>>10728465
>somehow harder for me to code than it was to do chemE.
insert smug anime face or "nice try cs major" here

[Anonymous No.10735314]

>>10728482
What do you do, specifically? What would you say to people like >>10728465 who find CS boring?
>>10728706
how satisfying do you find your career? If you could go back, would you choose medicine again?
>>10729039
>believing fusion timelines
>ever
>>10729812
how much are you making?
>>10730238
>I would be making much more than I am right now
doing what?
>>10731688
>the field will start to become more dependent on machine learning or artificial intelligence in the future
it's already happening. Check out citrine.io
>>10733253
who says we have to be "most people"? "most people" are braindead NPCs with no drive or abition whose only passions are "travelling" or at best an entire subject (with the image in their minds being that of a shiny white TV scientist who moves test tubes around).
>>10733265
how is the income?
>>10733951
>not saving up for the inevitable contraction

[Anonymous No.10735322]

>>10729121

Hey anon, I got a bachelors in Mechanical engineering, got a job at SpaceX right out of school with a total compensation of ~105k/yr as a design engineer but this shit is soul-crushing, 60-70hr work weeks, extremely stressful deadlines and workload. Also it's aersospace so mistakes are fucking catastrophic which really makes everything even high stakes, especially when you're forced to rush stuff. I feel burned the fuck out and have only been here about a year. I really want to transition to software where the work-life balance is better, it's less high stakes\stressfull and the pay is better. What do you recommend I do? Outside of C and MatLab I really don't know much about computer science or programming and I'm not entirely sure how my current skills would transfer to software, do you have any adivce on how to transition?

>mfw new hires complain about working more than 40hrs

[Anonymous No.10735333]

>>10735258
Isn't it pretty hard to make something out of your PhD though? Academy pays shit and you have to fight tooth and nail to get pennies to put together a lousy research project.

Industry pays more but won't it be incredibly hard to get into the good jobs because of oversat?

I'd think about maybe doing entrepreneurship but I don't have any ideas for something. I don't have any ideas for the next spacex or whatever.

[Anonymous No.10735343]

>>10735314
>who says we have to be "most people"? "most people" are braindead NPCs with no drive or abition whose only passions are "travelling" or at best an entire subject (with the image in their minds being that of a shiny white TV scientist who moves test tubes around).
Not just that, but problem is most people don't know how to get started. I'm not satisfied about these jobs that are just to pay the bills, but I'm not sure what else to do.

[Anonymous No.10735361]

>>10735322
not him but musk companies are notorious for overworking and underpaying engineers, did you not know this going in? maybe it has gotten better, but a few years ago a friend of mine was saying people would leave all the time and they would just ask any engineer on linkedin to apply, although not often as people idolize him and his companies.

[Anonymous No.10735378]

>>10735361

I was working 50-55 hours a week as an intern prior to going full time but I really thought it would stay in this range. Boy was I wrong, I can handle 50-55hrs a week. but 70 is literally soul-crushing KYS tier after only a couple months.

[Anonymous No.10735385]

>>10735378
I'm still young in the industry myself so take what I'm gonna say with a grain of salt but that's sadly the way life seems for pretty much any field/industry. You want to be well paid or work on the cutting edge stuff that tries to advance mankind? You're going to have to live at your job and become a workaholic.

Life seems like you're only allowed to pick two things for your job:
1.paid well
2. something cool and you're interested in
3. has good work/life balance
4. is an easy-moderate field to get into and not ultra competitive or oversaturated.

[Anonymous No.10735399]

>>10735385

REEEEEE

how do all these software ppl make 150k per year workng 40hr weeks.

[Anonymous No.10735402]

>>10735399
Well those software people live in places where that 150k is actually the equivalent of 70-90k first of all.

Second, software is a lot of boring shit. A few devs will get to work on cool shit. Rest will be stuck doing the most boring shit imaginable.

[Anonymous No.10735411]

>>10735402

I got to work on a whole bunch of cool stuff but to be honest the novelty wears off real quick when you're working 60+ hrs a week. I'd rather work on mundane stuff and still get paid the same without getting worked to the bone.

[Anonymous No.10735421]

>>10728382
>internship sucks
>not even really a engineering internship more of a supervisor trainee
>worried it wont be good enough to get a full time EE job next year


How fucked am i, if my only internship isnt really a engineering internship. It is for a major company and it is in the field of EE but its not like im working on some design project like others have.

[Anonymous No.10735426]

>>10735421
it’s getting your foot in the door

[Anonymous No.10735435]

>>10735411
well its up to you if you want to jump ship to what may or may not be a greener field, but you also have to consider where you want to end up long term.

Shit may suck now but will it open up doors to something else later on that you're interested in? If so you may want to stay, grit your teeth and put in the grind.

Don't just think about tomorrow. Ask yourself where you want to be when you are in the mid point of your career and the end point of your career, then decide if you want to jump ship.

[Anonymous No.10735440]

>>10735411
also for the love of god start learning coding on the side before you make that decision. I know a guy who helps run a bootcamp and there are so many people who decide to go, "learn to code" route and sign up for a bootcamp without really knowing what it is, leaving them to then find out they hate working on code for 8 hours a day.

[Anonymous No.10735449]

>>10728706
>tfw i should have gone to dental school and taken over my fathers practice.
>tfw i should have become a lawyer
>tfw i should have taken out a small business loan and opened up some sort of bar/restaurant/specialized store

[Anonymous No.10735463]

>>10730001
railroads. Its where im interning. It sucks for certain reasons but its different enough to take a look into it.

The only great thing about the railroad is the retirement.

[Anonymous No.10735464]

>>10735449
>tfw i should have gone to dental school and taken over my fathers practice.

I don't have a father in dental, but god damn do I regret not going the dental route.

>make 150k if you work in someone else's practice or a corporate practice
>make 200-300k if you own your own practice
>average work hours are 35-45 hrs a week.
>good job security once you get into the field

I don't have the grades to get into dental school so I'd have to go back to school and I'm 24 years old so I'd be starting my career way too late. You need to be real young if you wanna go the dental route so you can get that debt paid off before you get too old.

[Anonymous No.10735467]

>>10735343
>>10728406
You could try working for early stage startups. I hear the work is interesting, rapidly shifting, and you get to affect the long-term trajectory of the company. Most have a meaningful vision to boot.
>>10735449
restaurants are hell to manage and are becoming less and less profitable every day. If you want to operate one you need an updated model. Check out Mac'd's low-cost business model.b

[Anonymous No.10735475]

I should've raped someone when I was younger. Women like guys who've been to jail/prison and I wouldn't be a virgin any more.

[Anonymous No.10735478]

>>10735464
father makes 160k after tax and works about 35 hours a week .Told me a few times he could easily charge more but likes to help people out more than make more money. Has a nice house and car and plenty money saved and invested so there's no need for him to up-charge more.

[Anonymous No.10735482]

>>10735421
I had no internship, but I had a great final project which went tits up because all my lab partners were normalfags that did nothing for the project. I had a job for less than a year before the company stopped paying my salary (literally) and I had to walk out. Been unemployed for over a year, applied to over 100 jobs with no luck.

[Anonymous No.10735490]

>>10735478
if your father already owns a practice why not go back to school? You could take over that shit one day.

If my father owned a practice I'd go back to school in a heartbeat. Shit, ask your dad if he's willing to adopt me.

[Anonymous No.10735502]

>>10735482
jesus christ, is engineering really (and im not fucking kidding when i say this) a fucking meme.

Im so fucking sick and tired of companies coming to my school going "Wah we cant find enough engineers, Wah we really need top tier engineers like you guys" Than proceeding to deny me and half my class mates internships.

i know im at the bottom 25% of my school, i see my class rank. But im also at a top 15 school. All i want is a fucking engineering job for a few years to build up the resume and than i can fucking sleep well.

Dont trust anyone folks, like i said here >>10735449 my father talks to his patients all the time about me looking for work, and they always say the same "we cant find engineers" bullshit. I apply and never hear back.

If anyone here ever is in the position to choose a intern or entry level job, please consider giving it to someone who needs it (and is still qualified), not the guy with 3 internships at fortune 100 companies.


Hell all i want is a fucking interview. I fucking annihilate interviews. Every single interview i have ever had, i have been offered the job. I just need a fucking interview.

[Anonymous No.10735514]

>>10735490
its one of those things you think about but would never act upon. Its sounds nice to run your won dental practice with a established customer base, but i 0 desire for it, outside of money and security.

[Anonymous No.10735553]

>>10735502
>i know im at the bottom 25% of my school

[Anonymous No.10735555]

>>10735502
That's because HR stacies never let your resume reach the people your father talks to (hiring managers). Learn2Wage and call your hiring manager to follow up on your application. It's not what's on your resume as much as it is who you know.

[Anonymous No.10735577]

>>10735502
Worse man, all three of my "partners" had 6+ months at companies, and one now is doing graduate stuff, the other two I don't know now, but they wee doing stuff longer than I did that I've been turned down for (they were women not a surprise).

At the same time, more than half a third year digital logic class was caught cheating (they planted fake book answers online which were wrong, which more than half the class turned in). The result? A single zero on that homework, never spoken of again. There was another time graduate students were cheating on a midterm, and when I complained about it, a director of my program literally said if they don't pass students, the students wouldn't show up. All a dollars game, while I'm putting in 40+ hours a week easy, and get worse grades than the cheaters and get a joke degree from professors that don't give a shit and explicitly designed their work to help cheaters.

[Anonymous No.10735583]

>>10735577
learn how to play the game faggot

[Anonymous No.10735898]

>>10735502
its because of this >>10735555.

If your resume isn't hitting a large percentage of the required buzzwords on the listing, HR people are going to throw it in the bin. HR people are fucking dumb, so format your resume in a way that will hit the most words on their job listing and then it will get passed on to an engineer who will actually see what you're about. HR is cancer in the engineering world, literally useless.

[Anonymous No.10735934]

So.

are software engineers really engineers?

[Anonymous No.10736230]

>thread is already /adv/ 2.0
Do you faggots not have any projects to talk about or things you'd like to work on or get into?

I was about two months into a machine learning project applied to solar cells looking for a good candidate at perovskites and then some MIT students about last week dropped their article on basically this exact thing. Any ideas for a related project (or should I go ahead and stick to this even though it's been recently done)? Anything with math and/or sustainable energy.

[Anonymous No.10736247]

>>10735333
>I don't have any ideas
We can always use help in sustainable energy
>solar cells and graphene
>nuclear materials for fusion
>optimizing flower wind turbines
>lab grown meat
>vertical farming
>machine learning and computational sustainability
There's still so much to be done in this entire field and in some ways a lot of the heavy lifting has been done for you since the ideas are already laid out they just need to be made more efficient which is the whole point of engineering. Pick one and go down the rabbit hole. Make it a hobby and in time you can find yourself on a successful research team.

[Anonymous No.10736514]

Over summer I want to create something that can map 3D spaces.

LIDAR modules are too expensive.

Is there anyway I can pulse an LED with a certain pattern that is read by some kind of light sensor and get accurate results of distance?

[Anonymous No.10736523]

>>10736514
Just use a greedy average for groups of pixels/pixels and a lens. Basically test when pixels are in focus, and then you'd have their distance.

[Anonymous No.10736589]

>>10734463
Yes.

[Anonymous No.10736900]

>>10735577
Then learn however much you think you should know and cheat in order to get an A. Whatever you do, make sure it doesn't leave you bitter, as your current plan of action seems to.
>>10735934
>a person who designs, builds, or maintains engines, machines, or public works
Do you consider programs to be be machines?
>>10736514
use deep learning and a good old camera. It's completely inappropriate and overengineered but it's deep learning so putting it in your resume will make you much more employable when the time comes. Again, Learn2WagePls

[Anonymous No.10737726]

>>10728410
In my uni mechanical engineering and biomedical engineering did basically the same modules, with the biomeds doing a few extra biology modules and the mechanicals doing a few extra electronics modules.

After college biomeds are kinda limited to the medical devices sector while mechanicals can do that as well as others such as manufacturing, automotive, aerospace, automation etc.
Biomedical Engineering is also very location-dependent, always look into the number of companies in your area.

[Anonymous No.10738326]

Is working for an EPC or consulting worse than working for an operator? I work for a chemical plant that is now closing so I need to find a new job. I only have a couple of years of experience and so far I haven't had much luck finding a plant job, but several EPCs have been calling.

I don't know if I should expect more or less base pay, but the benefits seem way worse overall with much less time off, pathetic 401k matching, worse insurance plans that cost more, and shit bonuses which all makes me think that overall I'm going to be worse off. It seems like it would be a pain in the ass to bill time too, right now I'm salaried and sure some weeks I might have to work more than 40 hours and not get paid overtime but the rest of the time I can come and go pretty freely. People I know in consulting or design firms seem to always be working later than I am, plus the travel, plus the crunch time around deadlines.

Should I keep holding out for a job with an operating company? I guess I'll take the interviews I can get, but I do still have some time to keep looking before I'm actually laid off.

[Anonymous No.10738537]

Am I getting myself into a meme by doing Marine Engineering? I mean, the technical aspect of it is interesting, but I'm afraid of getting into a stagnating field with only shit jobs avaliable

[Anonymous No.10738593]

>ctrl f "chemical engineering"
>all chemical engineering people in thread are complaining about the field and debating about going, "learn 2 code" route
Yep this is an /eng/ thread. Everyday I ask myself I should just go into software instead and everyday I find I can't answer that question.

[Anonymous No.10738631]

>>10738593
this also applies for bioE too. I'm taking a C++ data structure class right now over the summer because I'm debating about dropping my chemE degree, the only other non cs major in the class is a bioE major who's about to graduate and he said he's taking this class because he fully expects that bioE will bite him in the ass when he's out searching for jobs and he'll have to become a code monkey.

[Anonymous No.10738712]

>>10738593
Well, finding a chemical engineering job sucks, but when work is going well it's way more fun than being stuck in a cubicle or """"open concept workspace"""" staring at thousands of lines of boring text that doesn't do anything interesting.

Part of the problem is that engineering majors get the idea that they just have to work hard for 4 years and then they get $100k starting handed to them on a silver platter as everyone around them treats them like God's gift to mankind. What really happens is that after college you're still not even close to done with struggling and busting your ass.

[Anonymous No.10738727]

>>10738593
you should teach yourself programming and make the jump. A lot of mechanicals and chemical engineers end up transferring to software. You niggas should have just been electrical or computer engineers, made your life easier from the very start.

[Anonymous No.10738738]

guys, how do I make my senior project based on arudino look decent on my resume? I can list the protocols used and stuff, but desu it might not stand out like using other boards would.

[Anonymous No.10738744]

How can i get into a good european master program? I live in a shitty third world country, i think i can get an european citizenship, but im not sure. I speak 4 languages (english, spanish, french and german) and im almost graduating summa cum laude from my shitty university. i'm graduating as an EE (power oriented degree, since electronics is a dead field in my country).
Any advice? Do i have to email/call every european university that has master programs that interest me or what? I really need to leave this country

[Anonymous No.10738749]

>>10738727
>electrical
lmao no. My dad was EE that eventually became an executive at a utilities company so I considered that route originally but I noped the fuck out of that soon as a I took my first circuits class.

ChemE is hard but I would rather take a ballpin hammer to my testicles than go through another circuits class.

[Anonymous No.10739104]

>>10733253
If you never worked in production line you can't understand how bad it's the other way around,I have a diploma and I see stupid ass engineers come and tell me how to restart a PC because they think I'm dumb,I decided to go study engineering for this reason it's not even the money I just can't take orders from stupid idiots,so trust me even if you aren't doing your dream job there is always worse,and being an engineer is respectable.

[Anonymous No.10739402]

>spend your life dedicated to study
>end up a 30 year old virgin
>get a job working for a similar wage to someone with a masters in equity greivance studies at your same company
>spend 60% of your wages on tax to people watch TV every day and do the bare minimum to get by
>marry some ex-whore who was fucking eletricians in her 20s
>Your manager knows shit but holds his position because of his persuassive skills
>all your friends are cucks who will end up divorced because they their wife got over their whore period
Lads. Why bother?

I just want to give up on it all or become a criminal. I dont want to contribute to anyone else around me at all.

[Anonymous No.10739658]

>>10732616
I completely feel you bro but my gradw thing was opposite. I was super motivated in hs and got into a good uni but then once in college i started to realize that ill just be a cad monkey my whole life and my gpa started to slip.

[Anonymous No.10740087]

>>10739402
>but holds his position because of his persuassive skills
why not learn them?

[Anonymous No.10740381]

>>10733273
the easiest way is to expand the potential function onto a basis set and then diagonalize to find the eigenvectors.

The more accurate way is to propagate a quantum wave packet in imaginary time until it's energy converges.

Is this a many body problem? Then use a coupled cluster method if time permits.

T. Physicist

[Anonymous No.10740922]

>>10740087
Social skills and your personality are learned in adolescence.

[Anonymous No.10741070]

>>10728382
Are professional organizations worth it? I’m thinking about pulling the trigger on an IEEE membership.

[Anonymous No.10741115]

>>10741070
For what you pay, yeah. It’s like $20 for a student membership and they invite you to stuff and send you magazines that help you keep your ear to the ground with industry.

[Anonymous No.10741365]

>>10740922
Usually so, but that does not mean it can *only* be learned in adolescence. Indeed the only reason it's true is because most people who don't believe (falsely) that it can no longer be learned, thus leaving those who learned it in adolescence as the only people with social skills.

[Anonymous No.10741407]

>>10731231
shit is kinda the same in Portugal for Engineering Physics and Aerospace Engineering. It's widespread Euro thing. Might worse in Japan though.

[Anonymous No.10741448]

>>10735502
My company got 50k internship applications this year IIRC. We also need talented engineers, but not every talented intern turns into a talented engineer. I didn't request an intern, but if I did, I really don't care about what school you go to or how well you do, for me the most important things are
-you can take on a project and drive it nearly 100% yourself
-you can communicate with other teams, let them know what you need, and not have your project hang up waiting on others
Other than that, technical ability you can continue to learn anyway, provided you show an ability to learn quickly. No matter what area you are interested in I definitely recommend knowledge of python, sql, and at least a rudimentary understanding of any other language you have the time to dip your feet in. Also, be good with Excel and the office sweet, this is always overlooked but super valuable.

[Anonymous No.10741472]

>>10741448
and what type of resume would demonstrate these? If someone can use basic excel functions and perhaps VLOOKUP with a lot of googline but no VBA would it be worth putting "excel skills" on the resume?

[Anonymous No.10741488]

>>10739402
creating these extremely exaggerated, ridiculous worlds for yourself isn't going to make people side with you.

[Anonymous No.10741493]

>>10741488
>hitler quads

[Anonymous No.10741507]

>>10738738
No it wouldn't. Arduino kiddies are really looked down on by professional electrical and computer engineers. A lot of this is because it's so easy to just download pre-made libraries and copy tutorials. For example my hackspace teaches a three hour course where people with no prior experience can make a pong game or LED thermometer. With another board you've at least demonstrated you can do your own work. Also consider building your own microcontroller board instead of a pre-made one.

[Anonymous No.10741513]

>>10741472
My resume just listed relevant programs I was adept with, including Excel. If you're shooting for an internship at a really good company I would worry more about actually learning Excel instead of how to appear like you are on your resume while hoping you can google through anything you need to do when you get the internship. It's not hard to learn. My resume is pretty barebones, I'm sure people do it differently, I try to make the resume look really nice, but minimal, and rely heavily on a cover letter. When I've reviewed applicants in the past if the resume is a novel normally it's been detrimental, I don't need to know about your 6 summer jobs and every project you've done. If the resume says ex.

Software proficiency:
CATIA
Altium
Excel
Minesweeper

School
State school #5219512
Robotics Program

Job
Yes I've had a job

That looks pretty good, I'll read your cover letter. That's at smaller companies I've worked at though, I haven't reviewed an intern's resume, and applicants are thoroughly screened by HR and recruiting I'm sure so I don't want to give you advice on how to get through those stages, I am only speaking to how I personally look at applications.

[Anonymous No.10741538]

>>10738744
anyone?

[Anonymous No.10741558]

>>10741507
Were do I learn about building custom micro controller boards?
>>10741513
alright, thanks. So basically what you're saying is that at the Hiring Manager (that's what you are, right?) level, the resume is more or less a formality and what matters is the cover letter? Other than giving a crap about the company, what are some things you see in good cover letters? Applicant's can't exactly begin with "ever since I was a boy, I've always dreamed of doing process control", can they?
>>10741538
how much can you pay? In burgerland masters degrees mostly accept international students for cash cow purposes. If you're able to pay full freight, then just find some unis which interest you and fire away. Be sure to search "site:linkedin.com university major masters" to see the kinds of places graduates end up.

[Anonymous No.10741560]

>>10735314
>What do you do, specifically?
Senior data scientist at a major retailer.
>how much are you making?
Only $110k because I fell for memes and wasted time on MechE. I'm in a super low cost of living area though.
>doing what?
Working for one of the big M.A.N.F.A.G. companies.
>not saving up for the inevitable contraction
Cars don't change in value that much.

[Anonymous No.10741577]

>>10741560
>major retailer.
hey, chin up. I bet your MechE background helped you stand out.
MANFAG is a pretty interesting acronym. If you're referring to tech companies I'm not sure which one starts with M.
Do you remember what the job description asked for? Did you get the job by applying online the normal way? How much do you work per week?

[Anonymous No.10741582]

>>10731128
KTH is predominantly incels of arab and white majority

[Anonymous No.10741586]

>>10741558
>how much can you pay?
Nothing unless i get a job there while studying. That's why studying in Europe (mostly Germany or France) seems like the better option for me. I speak the language and their master programs are really cheap (basically free if i can get the european citizenship) compared to US and UK.
Some kind of scholarship would be great, I plan on living there (so i don't want to get free education and then come back to my country like some people do).

[Anonymous No.10741591]

>>10741558
I'm not a hiring manager, I would be interviewing you as a teammate if you are an engineer, which is pretty typical. The final call goes to a manager or director, but you at some point at most large companies will have an interview with a recruiter, potential teammates (could be 1 on 1 or panel, technical or not), then a manager, not necessarily in that order. Yes the resume in my opinion just shows extremely broad basic info, and the cover letter is where at least some of your personality should shine through.

>Applicant's can't exactly begin with "ever since I was a boy, I've always dreamed of doing process control", can they?
I've seen things like that many times. I can't really tell you what is good to put in there, I just look for people who are good at reflecting themselves in their writing, can explain why they are looking into this career, maybe talk about some interesting experience they have, and leave me wanting to ask more questions to them after reading. Also to your other question you didn't ask me, design a board that does something interesting, solder it up yourself, and bring it to the interview. It doesn't have to be anything advanced, that alone shows you can follow through on a project. You can try to make one tangentially related to the company you are aiming to work at.

[Anonymous No.10741600]

>>10741591
When you do hear "ever since I was x I wanted to y", what kind of effect does it have on you?
>design a board that does something interesting, solder it up yourself, and bring it to the interview.
do you think that's better than just having the project listed in your resume? Also, what fi the board is meant to interface with unwieldy equipment like an electric skateboard?
Thanks for answering my questions, by the way.

[Anonymous No.10741609]

>>10733910
I do projects on my own and just for the sake of curiosity/fun. Only problem is that I live in third country with everything expensive so now I'm focusing on some machine/programming shit and gonna try from it since only costs nothing.

Be patient and don't shoot for something too big that would require human resources or lots of money then you be fine.
Also you can always find try to find a way to volunteer with your degree. If no options avaliable you still have the option to teach for free or become an online monitor to students.

[Anonymous No.10741610]

>>10741488
Hahahhahahahahahhayay

[Anonymous No.10741615]

>>10741600
>When you do hear "ever since I was x I wanted to y", what kind of effect does it have on you?
Not negative I suppose, but it just seems like fluff to me. I work at a company that tons of people think they want to work for, so it's mostly "I love this product, I want to be like the CEO, you mission is the same as mine it's my dream!" and all that, but that isn't the job, the job is solving problems. If I read something like "I grew up on a farm, I didn't like the work so I found ways to do it more easily, I made some tools, changed some processes, and that's what made me interesting in engineering" that's what I like to hear about.

>do you think that's better than just having the project listed in your resume?
Yes by a huge margin.
>Also, what fi the board is meant to interface with unwieldy equipment like an electric skateboard?
Doesn't matter, the point is you had a worthy idea, implemented it, and in person you can show some of your thought process on why you made it, how you made it (including contacting the supplier, testing it, etc.), and how it works.

[Anonymous No.10741625]

>>10728406

goddamn this mentality gets to me. Some fresh out of college engineer comes in and then pitches a fit and gets pissy that we don't let them work on the highest level problems and designs and how can we not recognize their two semesters of solidworks experience. You fucking realize that people spend their whole careers working to get to the level where they're trusted to do design and r&d that will affect the whole company right? And then when you switch jobs every year and fail to show why you should be entrusted to move onto more responsibility you wonder why you can't work on complex stuff.

[Anonymous No.10741628]

>>10735502
maybe you just not sociable and outgoing. Don't know where you live but it is the same here. le engineers shortage at the same time you apply 50+ positions to not even go to the interview.

From my experience the people hiring are clueless about what they actually need and want. In the end for some reason, they want to hire some actor tier social guy even for a position where this person gonna be alone in a room all day playing with excel. Feels like they give a shit about technical skills and put soft skills as top 1 skill needed for every position.
Also I hope it is just a coincidence but in 3 or 4 cases where I went to the interview, only women got the job. Think some companies really likes memes then oh we have 12 males and 3 females, lets spend 2 years hiring only females until we have a perfect balanced ratio.

In my case I'm at top 3 uni and still have the same fate as you.

[Anonymous No.10741632]

>>10728382
sneeds feed and seed

[Anonymous No.10741647]

>>10741628
learn english

[Anonymous No.10741648]

>>10735502

other people said it here but buzzwords on your resume are important. Also attitude matters a lot. You think people want to work with an entitled stuck up cunt? fuck no. give me a mid-tier engineer who i can get along with and work together over some top 15 prick any day.

[Anonymous No.10741650]

>>10738593
In my country theres two options for chemE:

>excel pilot
>manager

Don't know if engineers actually use anthing but excel in usa/europe, in 3rd world it is excel and barely vba. In my country you still need the chemE degree since clueless people think higher of it than sci comp (which gets you no job outside developing mobile apps or call center).

If you really want to be rich then forget sci comp and stick to chemE but do anything to be sociable and talk well. Go to every party, talk to everyone, do acting or singing classes, while you are at college volunteer to some club and stick with it until you get a management position.
Now you done, finish college then get a leadership position from start and in 10 years you earning more than doctors and basically doing nothing all day.

[Anonymous No.10741680]

>>10741558
>Were do I learn about building custom micro controller boards?

Almost every microcontroller datasheet shows the minimal circuit you need to get it running. Typically it's a crystal, capacitors for the crystal, decoupling capacitors, and a programming header. Other things like 12v RS232 are external chips that also have datasheets.

[Anonymous No.10742363]

I'm off to study Mechanical Engineering at University this September, but I can't help but feel unprepared or that I got accepted by a fluke and I'll probably fail or not be able to keep up with the content at University. I wouldn't say I'm a genius/Chinese level Math student, but I'm pretty decent at it.

How big is the jump up from High School/Sixth Form/Gymnasium up to First year undergrad? I'm based in England and went through the entire education system here.

[Anonymous No.10742983]

>>10742363
%90 of the difficulty in engineering school is self inflicted by guys who try to cram 20 credits in a semester or stack multiple “weed out” classes.

There is no such thing as graduating “on time”. Know your limits, you might cringe at having to be in undergrad an extra semester or two but compare it to cratering your chances at grad school, scholarships, and internships from having a shitty GPA.

[Anonymous No.10743633]

>>10728406
work for yourself or build a company
design some crazy shit and make it a reality

[Anonymous No.10744012]

>>10728410
depends on where you are and what you manage to do with it. probably better off doing mech, elec, or chem and doing a masters in biomed if you're asking that q

[Anonymous No.10744030]

>>10738593
Really depends on your location and how much you enjoy the major, if you want more versatility switch to MechE, EE or CompE. In my experience, finding my first job as a chemE sucked, very smooth sailing from there tho doing design work. Try really hard to get contacts and go into coop if you can. Learn some programming on the side or minor in CS if you want. Don't give up on chemE just because some retard online couldn't get a job. If you don't like the major, then you should definitely switch out.

[Anonymous No.10744591]

>>10741680
No offense, but your soldering skill is garbage

[Anonymous No.10744657]

How many school projects are too many for a resume? Im planning on putting three, senior project, vhdl project, and either an amplifier or a video game i made in c++. Is that too many? Also, for work experience, none of it is engineering related. I have some but im not sure if its worth listing since its irrelevant af. Need some tips for this part.

[Anonymous No.10744681]

>>10728382
I feel at home becoming an engineer.

Nothing in my whole life has felt worth it, the whole period of studying and everything leading up to my degree has felt like mostly a chore, but now when graduation is imminent i think it's worth it.

Engineers build. Engineers create. Engineers are the ones who did the pyramids of Giza, as well as the Starlink system. Most of their names won't be remembered, but their work will be, since if it's well made, it's eternal.

I'm only becoming a bachelor degree engineer (if all goes well), which I'm a bit ashamed over, but the title will be worth it. I've worked hard for it.

[Anonymous No.10744714]

>>10744681
You've done well anon, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Engineers are unironically an important part of our society and history, who we can thank for creating for some of the things that are still around today like you said.
So what if you only have a Bachelor's? You can always opt for a Master's afterwards if you'd like

[Anonymous No.10744803]

>>10744681
>>10744714
This, but if you specialize in a field that is not directly addressed in any higher education/academia then you can just remain a bachelors and progress on your own. You will become a highly respected expert in said field.
For me I am specialized in spectroscopy and analytics and none of the nearby (read in 1000km radius) universities do any masters courses regarding that field. So I build my own experience and specialization and I am already well respected for my broader-than-others knowledge.
The main thing is you have to set your progression for yourself, can't just rely one someone else telling you what to study. That way you will end up being a highly trained robot with limited opportunities.
Be your own man, with the bachelors you have the best opportunities to be successful.

[Anonymous No.10745008]

>tfw people keep debating me after finding out I'm majoring in Nuclear Energy

[Anonymous No.10745032]

>>10745008
nice larp boy, in reality nobody cares what you do

[Anonymous No.10745067]

>>10745032
>larp
Masters at KTH and doing an internship in Austria, so I'm faced with lots of criticism when people ask me what I'm majoring in.
Was worse in Germany.

[Anonymous No.10745076]

>>10745067
>KTH
DTUfag here, good luck!

[Anonymous No.10745117]

Looking back at your first years in college/university, what do you wish you had learned before starting your bachelor's program?

[Anonymous No.10745128]

>>10733962
>take note of all the common software that keep popping up in the "Required" sections and put them on your resume even if you don't have any experience with it at all. You can still get a free student/trial version even though you just graduated - download and play around with them, follow some basic youtube videos
>for every job, make slight changes to your resume to make it look more like you meet their requirements. eventually you'll end up with a resume for each general industry because none of these jobs you're applying for are going to be highly specialized
>apply for every job you even barely meet the requirements for, let them decide if you don't meet the requirements
>you can still apply on most intern/coop jobs even though you graduated (up to a year in most cases)

most importantly: spam apply for jobs and be willing to move away for one, even if only for a year. after your first job getting others becomes way fucking easier.

[Anonymous No.10745142]

>>10733351
They already are automated. Pilots literally don't fly planes anymore. They're technicians, there in-case something trippy happens.

[Anonymous No.10745152]

>>10741625
zoomers want to "make an impact". i think south park covered that already. or maybe the family guy.

[Anonymous No.10745156]

>>10745142
except take-off and landing are manual

[Anonymous No.10745164]

>>10744591
Not him but you are full of shit. I doubt that's his pic but regardless there's nothing wrong with soldering there. Oh, and no offense of course.

[Anonymous No.10745218]

>>10745117
That one should be in contact with the reserach and projects the professors and faculty do in the uni. They know more than anyone else in your uni and not interacting with them is the worst thing one can do.

[Anonymous No.10745307]

>>10741507
>>10741680

Why are computer/electrical "engineers" so aspie? All other engineering disciplines accept the necessity of "standing on the shoulders of giant's", building upon their work to progress industries/designs.

Meanwhile these fags are making shitty "micro" controllers the size of dinner tables.

[Anonymous No.10745541]

>>10745117
Better life management skills
diet
exercise
sleep
taking care of hair/skin/teeth
dressing well
dealing with girls
personal finance

[Anonymous No.10745548]

>>10745307
1. Using Arduino as a learning tool only makes sense if the thing you are learning about is not computers. You won't go low-level enough to understand how anything works.
2. Arduino is not good enough for actual embedded systems engineering work. If you can just throw an Arduino at something and have your system working in 5 minutes then you didn't need an engineer in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10745944]

>>10729248
Replace 1 with the upper third pic, and just resize the bottom third pic.

[Anonymous No.10746370]

>>10738593
Well its official boys. I just switched my major from chemE to CS. I have enough credits to get minors in both math and chem. I'll try and go for an MBA shortly after I get my B.S. Really hope I'm not gonna regret this decision later on.

[Anonymous No.10746384]

>>10746370
Either way you'll end up a slave to our corporate overlords.

[Anonymous No.10746519]

>>10745117
That it would be the single worst decision I could have made.

[Anonymous No.10746521]

>>10745117
That parents don't know shit and it's fucking waste of time unless you're not me

[Anonymous No.10747088]

>>10731316
this
Do people actually think jobs are fun? Since I’ll be an EE probably, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.10747105]

>>10735322
people would complain about working only 5 and a half hours a day?

[Anonymous No.10747111]

>>10735475
Your never too old to try

[Anonymous No.10747121]

>>10735898
hey, watch who you’re calling dumb! My father is head of HR, sadly not at an engineering firm.
[spoilers]just kidding, my father hates his job and everyone who works at the business[\spoilers]

[Anonymous No.10747255]

>>10746370
>throwing away a legally defined professional degree for some shit that’s equivalent to “coding boot camp”

[Anonymous No.10747713]

If I list I know python in my resume, but lets say I only know the basics, is that fine or nah? I know data structures, oop in c/c++ as well as java. Just never had to take a python class at all. I am planning on picking it up soon, but I'm not sure I can be good at it like c++ leading up to interviews. I mean, are they gonna ask me to do fizzbuzz on the board in python?

[Anonymous No.10748599]

im about to go meet with a supervisor tomorrow to discuss about my intent to do my undergraduate project in signal processing. am i making a good choice here?

[Anonymous No.10748611]

>>10733962
All of this is your fault and you don't deserve to be successful.

[Anonymous No.10748620]

>>10747121
retarded newfag

[Anonymous No.10749132]

>>10747088
>Do people actually think jobs are fun?
While working isn't like being high on heroin 24/7, if you've sacrificed years of your life to pursuing a particular career, and you don't consider that career to be at least "fun", you've made a wrong turn somewhere. That, or you just haven't "made it" yet.

t. guy who messes with finite element models all day and has a blast doing it

[Anonymous No.10749720]

>>10748599
I did my senior design project in signal processing/RF and now I'm working at a defense contractor

[Anonymous No.10749765]

>>10728771
>1995
outdated

[Anonymous No.10750204]

>>10731164
I'm from Sweden, gonna study DataTeknik instead of Teknisk Fysik, I got F as second choice.

First of all, how do you plan on getting into HHS (Handels) If you can't get into F?

Secondly, your gonna have a really fucking hard time with two majors, especially one that is F, there's no way you'll make it in proper time if your lethargic.

[Anonymous No.10750860]

>>10749132
What do you make? What industry are you in? I'm starting in november in a mechE consultancy firm.

[Anonymous No.10750992]

>>10750860
I'm in commercial aerospace structures making $70k with ~$5k yearly bonus with a BS and over 3 years of experience. It's a low cost of living area, at least. Congrats on the job, what kind of ME is it and what are they paying you?

[Anonymous No.10751001]

Robotics engie, got a bachelors with honours here. Is doing further postgrad a meme? I hear mixed things about it all the time, but I am kind of interested in pursuing the autistic deeper research route rather than the industry rat race.

[Anonymous No.10751012]

>>10750992
Reminder that you make less than a software intern, even with the cost of living, Engies need to demand better pay.

[Anonymous No.10751020]

>>10745117
To look at salary numbers before falling for a meme major like engineering.

[Anonymous No.10751043]

>>10749720
You use an fpga or microcontroller for this? Quick rundown?

[Anonymous No.10752062]

>>10741632
based

[Anonymous No.10752200]

>>10750992
Hope to get into aerospace.

[Anonymous No.10752477]

>>10728382
Going to start my degree in Civil Engineering, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.10752622]

>>10752477
i got my degree 3 years ago. Here in my country it's low salaries, high responsibility, long work hours, high stress, absolutely the worst people imaginable.
Why anyone would like to be an engineer is beyond me. I'm seriously thinking of just leaving and start working, idk, as a waiter or something, at least no stress.

[Anonymous No.10752674]

Anyone here ever done a masters degree related to aerodynamics? What was your experience like?

[Anonymous No.10752764]

>>10752622
>it's low salaries, high responsibility, long work hours, high stress, absolutely the worst people imaginable.
This is insane. I am in the U.S., California, and hoping to get better prospects than what you've gotten. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics for the U.S., Civil make more than Mechanical (which is the other major that I am heavily considering). I hope you find some other job that is better.

[Anonymous No.10752833]

I’ve read here people saying engineering physics is not real engineering.
Can someone explain me a little more about this? Is EP a meme?

[Anonymous No.10752974]

>>10751043
Raw IQ samples from SDRs thrown into MATLAB. It was just some interferometry shit but that was enough to impress them as a new grad

[Libra No.10753002]

I made three reviews on the Facebook blockchain whitepapers found here
https://developers.libra.org/docs/welcome-to-libra

https://youtu.be/dcAqb0wBl5g

The above is the main one on the ledger and the other two are about their custom smart contract language (implementing Linear Types in a Rust-like language) and the last is about their Byzantine Fault Tolerant consensus protocol variant

[Anonymous No.10753014]

Guys, I need some help. I'm looking for a book or some paper research that show a parametric formula for the torque needed to move a centrifugal pump, with an electrical drive. I know that the mechanical torque of this kind of mechanical load is variable with the square of the speed, but I haven't found anything so far. I appreciate any help you guys can give me out. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10753070]

>>10752833
EP is when you wanna be a scientist, but are hedging your bets that you’ll bomb out of academia. Your juuust enough of an engineer to get all the licensing.

[Anonymous No.10753108]

>>10728382
As someone wishing to work in the space industry, is aerospace essentially my best bet?

[Anonymous No.10753118]

>>10753108
im not mech e or aero, but from what I've read aerospace is pretty competitive. You might want to do a lot to stand out since mech.e's go into that field and aero is kinda of an specialization of mechanical to begin with. Something you want to consider is, what if you dont land your first job in aero?? I might be tough to branch out to other specialties since a lot of companies will only look for mechanical engineers. Same with bioengineers and stuff. You can land these jobs with some work experience.

[Anonymous No.10753150]

>>10753108
>if I want work in the space industry, should I work in the space industry?

[Anonymous No.10753167]

Are there any flight test engineers here?

[Anonymous No.10753195]

My extension cord says it's rated for 125v. I want to take it to the UK to use with my travel adapter. The adapter is not a converter, but the device I am bringing is 100-240v input and less than 3amps. Does it matter with such a low amount of current?

[Anonymous No.10753401]

This thread is some sad wagecuck shit. I'm glad I dropped out.

[Anonymous No.10753755]

>>10744657
What exactly is the work experience?

[Anonymous No.10753763]

If I'm a process engineer making $91,000 base in Houston, how stupid would I be to take a job that pays maybe $100k base in Washington near Portland? I'm not sure yet how the total compensation would add up, but I'm guessing it won't be worth it financially.

On the other hand it sounds like a pretty nice place to live, and I have to find a new job anyway. I'm getting laid off by the end of the year and the market seems pretty saturated here.

[Anonymous No.10754912]

https://youtu.be/dxoOfv0GIbI

Welp this has totally made me depressed and sad. Maybe I should switch from aero to biomechanical before I'm too far gone.

[Anonymous No.10754970]

>>10753755
like part time work at a family members restaurant and then later at someone elses construction company doing part time labor here and there. Nothing really engineering related at all.

[Anonymous No.10755029]

>>10754912
This basedboy has a point that right now, it doesn't make sense to go into engineering for the money (with maybe the exception of petroleum). Still, I don't understand why the quality of new hires I'm seeing isn't higher given that my company can choose to be very selective.

[Anonymous No.10755323]

>>10755029
Well fuck me. Finally found something to do with my life and its oversaturated

[Anonymous No.10755354]

>>10728382
I'm starting a mech e degree in a few months. I like the thought of being a design engineer. Any of you fags doing that?

[Anonymous No.10755499]

>>10753763
Fuck off, we’re full.

[Anonymous No.10756124]

>all these complaints about engineering being a meme and useless
You could have fucked up worse and ended up like me and be in a 2 year electrical engineering technology program.
Then again, one of my classmates also has a chemistry degree.

[Anonymous No.10756255]

>>10755323
Everything is pretty much oversaturated currently except for trades. It wouldn't hurt applying your knowledge and becoming an entrepreneur or helping a start-up company that has good intentions.

[Anonymous No.10756279]

>>10756255
If only. Seems like everything has been hypothesized or tested and theres nothing left to discover or invent. But that's just me being a brainlet

[Anonymous No.10756291]

>>10728482
i dont come to sci much anymore but see this pic every time i come here now and im the guy the original pic poster replied to

[Anonymous No.10756317]

>>10754912
>gets one internship
>slept through work and showed up late
>got fired and gave up
>now makes youtube videos shitting on engineering
im glad this idiot is preventing people from doing engineering though, does make it a little easier when this myth keeps being perpetuated

[Anonymous No.10756328]

hey guys i study electronic engineering what should i do my senior project on? whats the most meme cutting edge area with the most jobs? on a side note i always wanted to do nukeE, was always hoping there were jobs for electronics kids like me in the nuclear sector

[Anonymous No.10756347]

>>10752833
pynchon is the only person i know that did it and hes a writer so its probably a meme

but i would have done it if any schools in my state offered it

[Anonymous No.10756358]

>>10754912
anyone who listens to this retard should just commit seppuku. this faggot doesn't know anything and doesn't try to because he makes large amounts of money by making these scaretactic videos.

[Anonymous No.10756479]

>>10754912
real talk, this guy makes a living out of shitting on engineering. Comes off as jaded to me. Tried to watch one of his videos long ago and he just kept pressing the person doing the interview to shit on engineering. Dude is a certified clown.

[Anonymous No.10756689]

>>10728382
how to escape the poojeets

[Anonymous No.10756695]

Just wondering how much programming mechE's ought to know to get hired? And what skills in general are worth building before graduating

[Anonymous No.10756755]

>>10756695
Know some Excel/VBA, know how to write (well), remember the basics of your frshman/sophmore level engineering courses (physics, statics, mechanics of materials, circuits, etc), and done't be an autist and you'll be way better off than the average new hire.

[Anonymous No.10756759]

>move 1500 miles for new job
>get fired 3 weeks in

[Anonymous No.10757198]

>>10735934
software engineering is literally code monkey: the degree

[Anonymous No.10757568]

>>10757198
And yet they make twice as much money than you and are more valued by society. Really makes u think.

[Anonymous No.10757607]

>>10757568
Not engineers, though
>more valued by society
More valued by Microsoft and Google maybe

[Anonymous No.10757609]

>>10757607
>posted from my computer

[Anonymous No.10757627]

>>10757609
>posted from my computer
>powered by electricity
>in an air conditioned house
>paid for by a job I drive to
>whose executives fly around the world to make deals and keep the business going

[Anonymous No.10757632]

soon to be 3rd year Chem Eng student with no fucking clue what we actually do in a job role. I understand its broad but all my fucking teachers can say is we do shit with pipes
please someone with more experience tell me what you do

[Anonymous No.10757969]

>>10728382
I'm doing masters in MechEng mostly focused on robotic perception at a decent school. I have yet to publish any papers, conference or journal. How many publications do I need to get into a good robotics phd program in the US or Canada

[Anonymous No.10758698]

I'm a Civil/Structural PE. I'm licensed in KS, MO, NC and others, and I have an NCEES record. I was looking at the OH reciprocity, and even if you have an NCEES record, you have to fill out the fucking work experience and have it verified. WTF, OH?

What other states are heinous in this regard? I'm going to have to add a surcharge to my fees when a client wants me to get licensed in another state.

Some states are really fast, and require only basic information and the NCEES record. NC doesn't even charge an additional fee.

[Anonymous No.10758899]

>>10757607
Who gives a shit about engineer title. Literally the only two things that matter is do you like your job and do you make good money.

For alot of codemonkey jobs they not only pay more than average stereotypical eng job, but they also require more problem solving. Literally anyone who is obsessed about the title they have and not the money or job satisfaction they have should kill themselves

[Anonymous No.10759407]

>>10757607
it depends on the country, I think in canada you can call yourself an engineer after some years and through some certifications, its a protected title. In the US, it should be protected, but if the person has experience then they can use that to take the FE and then the PE. But software engineer is not protected at all and anybody that can do the job can take on the title.

[Anonymous No.10759731]

>>10758899
Exactly, I was just pointing out that code monkey work is not similar to engineering work, so if you like engineering work, that doesn't necessarily mean you like code monkey work

[Anonymous No.10759745]

>>10756695
matlab is all you need to know

[Anonymous No.10760373]

>>10758899
>codemonkey jobs require more problem solving than average stereotypical engineering jobs
Only because the average engineering job is absolutely brainlet-tier, most of the fun stuff requires a Master's

[Anonymous No.10760446]

>>10757627
Nice cope, but all of the most important stuff in your day happens on the computer.

[Anonymous No.10760449]

>>10741625
This post is proof that engineering really is a field for cucks.

[Anonymous No.10760990]

Is an ABET accredited BTech degree the same as a BEng degree?

[Anonymous No.10761589]

I had a question a few weeks ago but there wasn't a thread and now I forgot my question...

[Anonymous No.10761743]

>>10760990
No.

In a practical sense, the difference lies in whether or not a particular state will accept a BTech degree for licensure. You can rifle through ABET's page t ofind out about your particular program at: https://www.abet.org/accreditation/what-is-accreditation/what-programs-does-abet-accredit/

>>10761589
The answer was, "maybe."

[Anonymous No.10761951]

>>10760373
I thought getting a masters in ENG was worthless unless it was because you wanted to change fields (I.E. go from doing chemE to EE)

Only reason to go to graduate school for eng is if you want to do research by getting PhD.

[Anonymous No.10761997]

>>10747255
>legally defined professional degree
and cs isn't? There's more cs jobs than there are chemE.

[Anonymous No.10762051]

>>10761951
You've been sorely misinformed. I work in structures, and I have yet to work under an engineer that doesn't have a master's, and all the best engineers I've worked with had a master's. But, it probably depends on the field, there's a lot of important stuff in structures that doesn't get taught at the undergrad level.

[Anonymous No.10762318]

>>10761743
This question was asked by another anon previously but got no answer, so: There is currently a push by faculty at several BTech schools to allow their graduates access to the same licensure and federal employment opportunities as BEng graduates. What is your opinion on the issue?

[Anonymous No.10762853]

>>10761951
in civil engineering a masters is absolutely necessary if you wanna get ahead. For other fields like electrical and computer, not really unless you want to do some R&D or something more specialized.

[Anonymous No.10762868]

>>10747255
One starts you at $120k and one starts.you at $60k. Guess which is which.

[Anonymous No.10762992]

>>10762318
>What is your opinion on the issue?
Honestly, I haven't thought about it that much. To me, the 4 years of experience post-degree are what separate the wheat from the chaff. If and engineer demonstrates personal initiative and dedication to the profession, that's what will make them valuable to the workforce.

Are there many BTech programs, particularly at universities that also have BEng programs?

[Anonymous No.10762998]

>>10759407
>But sanitation engineer is not protected at all and anybody that can do the job can take on the title.

Same thing.

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>>10762992
There are some at larger universities, Purdue for example, but most state schools at least in Georgia have one or the other. In Georgia there are a lot of BTech programs because until 15 years ago only GA Tech was allowed to have BEng programs.

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>>10762868
that 120k is only for people who got into stanford and got hired at google day 1, where their 120k is worth like 80k