Nuclear lava water mix result in megaton thermal explosion

[Anonymous No.10726337]

So if molten nuclear fuel contacts 7000 cubic meters of water it can result in a megaton thermal explosion. Sounds extremely unlikely to me. This is not a nuclear reaction but rather hot water expanding as gas and making a bang but 2-4 MT blast... really? I call bullshit but maybe someone knows better than I do.

[Anonymous No.10726350]

>>10726337
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corium_(nuclear_reactor)#Corium_composition_and_reactions
>The temperature of corium can be as high as 2400 °C (4,352 °F) in the first hours after the meltdown, potentially reaching over 2800 °C (5,072 °F). A large amount of heat can be released by reaction of metals (particularly zirconium) in corium with water. Flooding of the corium mass with water, or the drop of molten corium mass into a water pool, may result in a temperature spike and production of large amounts of hydrogen, which can result in a pressure spike in the containment vessel.

[Anonymous No.10726357]

>>10726337
the heat and neutrons from molten corium can break apart water into hydrogen and oxygen

[Anonymous No.10726358]

So is it possible for this to reach the equivalent of a 2-4 megaton TNT blast?

[Anonymous No.10726385]

>>10726358
yes

[Anonymous No.10726394]

>>10726337
Is it possible to artificially produce corium? What if someone uses it as a bomb

[Anonymous No.10726396]

op is a basedboy

[Anonymous No.10726399]

>>10726394
you mean like building reactor that can meltdown and than throw it on closed of reservoir of water so it can explode?

[Anonymous No.10726422]

>>10726337
If this area is so unsafe, then why can I look at this picture and be just fine? I thought the main danger was radiation a.k.a. light, but to see this image I have to see muh dangerous light

[Anonymous No.10726463]

>>10726422
>to see this image I have to see muh dangerous light
Do you think your computer monitor or phone screen is capable of creating high energy photons or splitting neutrons to shoot at your face?

[Anonymous No.10726501]

>>10726337
>Sounds extremely unlikely to me.
Have you ever seen a steam explosion?
In elementary school there was a problem with our boiler and they had to evacuate the entire block.

[Anonymous No.10726549]

The risk is not only that the water would instantly vapourise into hydrogen and oxygen. The main risk is when the volume of it produced along with the rest of the fissioning lava creating a thermonuclear fusion reaction giving off lots more energy fusing the atoms back together.
Pretty sure thats why it was measured in megatons

[Anonymous No.10726600]

>>10726549
>The main risk is when the volume of it produced along with the rest of the fissioning lava creating a thermonuclear fusion reaction giving off lots more energy fusing the atoms back together.
Can you provide some evidence that fissioning lava and water can yield a fusion reaction because I find it very unlikely.

[Anonymous No.10726649]

>>10726600
Just a guess really

[Anonymous No.10726658]

>>10726385
>>10726337
No it's not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsdLDFtbdrA

[Anonymous No.10726662]

Also it was going to take out the other reactors there aswell.

[Anonymous No.10726686]

>>10726337
>megaton thermal explosion
no, hiroshima was 0.015 megaton

[Anonymous No.10726739]

>>10726337
I did a back of the envelope calculation in a /pol/ thread yesterday assuming 2000°C and ten tons of material and came up at around the energy of a MOAB in terms of purely thermal energy in the molten lava, of course not all of which could be transformed into mechanical work. I know that the ideal gas law isnt perfect for a liquid but it should provide a rough ballpark. (Theres also a post of physics stackexchange that results in the same order of magnitude iirc)
The bigger point is that the big water tanks below the core were completely open, since the water from the firehoses was already just leaking in there, so the lava would boil the water and the steam would just exist through the same openings that the water came in through without pressure buildup that could cause an explosion. Basically like every time a volcano erupts near the sea and lava flows into the water.

[Anonymous No.10726761]

>>10726549
>along with the rest of the fissioning lava
The lava was no longer undergoing fission since it was no longer surrounded by graphite. The residual heat is from the fission products of the uranium and is still a lot, but no where near enough to first split water molecules and then fuse the hydrogen into helium.

The only real danger I could find that was actually at least a tiny bit credible was that if the corium contained uranium in a sufficient concentration, it could conceivably thermally contract upon entering the water, enough for it to reach criticality again and start a fission reaction moderated by all the water, which in theeeeory could result in a large enough release of energy to fuck over the other three reactors and cause a much bigger mess (albeit no 2-4 MT explosion).
I think thats not something that was anywhere close to actually happening for a few reasons:
>The lava was mostly the sand-boron-mix, which was obviously designed to absorb neutrons, preventing a reaction
>the change in temperature wouldnt happen at speeds fast enough to get a chain reaction going, and I doubt uraniums thermal expansion coefficient is big enough to allow for any significant contraction at all
>as soon as a fission reaction would be set in motion, the material would heat up again and would stop being critical
This has all nothing to do with thermal explosions. I dont know if they actually thought a 2-4 MT explosion was at all possible or if thats something that was invented afterwards, but if they actually sent in those three men, they died for absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous No.10727888]

>>10726422
since photographs suck your soul, the soul-sucking force of the photo and the core balance out to a net zero

only roughly zero though, so I wouldn't stare at it for too long

[Anonymous No.10728036]

>>10726422

Please, tell me this is a troll. I need reassurance.

[Anonymous No.10728052]

>>10726337
it's bullshit, like saying if lava contacted water It would cause a megaton explosion, happens all the fucking time.

[Anonymous No.10728430]

>>10726739
Yes its dog shit. Sounds like Soviet propaganda 'oh the world was going to end but our brave Soviet heroes saved the world'. Fucking inbred mongolian.

[Anonymous No.10728522]

>>10726549
> fissioning lava creating a thermonuclear fusion reaction
Fucking kekd, nice bait my friend.

[Anonymous No.10728542]

>>10726337
what are you playing at?

[Anonymous No.10729253]

>>10728430
Ok so according to this diehard antinuke piece the three volunteers didnt die from ARS, but one from a heart attack in 2005 and the other two are still alive.
https://www.businessinsider.com/chernobyl-volunteers-divers-nuclear-mission-2016-4?IR=T
Not sure how much Id trust this article though. Especially funny is the fact that their source for "such a blast may have wiped out half of Europe" coincidentally leads to a 404...

[Anonymous No.10729693]

pic related
fukushima

[Anonymous No.10729806]

it's bullshit

[Anonymous No.10729826]

>>10726337
Reminder that the Chernobyl HBO show said "20 megatons" and retards ate that shit up.

Reminder that people claim the show isn't big oil propaganda.

[Anonymous No.10729832]

>>10729826
oh yeah, and for reference, THIS explosion is only a measly 15 megatons

[Anonymous No.10729850]

>>10728542
those faggy thorium reactors niggers where shilling this past year. it was debunked back in 2015. idk why they keep doing it since the guys who floated this shit to begin with admitted it was all fake power point presentations

when the plug melts shits gona kaboom

[Anonymous No.10729855]

>>10729253
Just ask these people where the potential energy is coming from.

[Anonymous No.10729886]

>>10726463
>Being this easily trolled...

[Anonymous No.10729890]

>>10729826
>Reminder that people claim the show isn't big oil propaganda.

It might just be stupid writers who didn't bother to learn anything but just used words that sounded all sceincey and shit.

[Anonymous No.10730667]

>>10726357
>Which are both explosive
You didn't say this part

[Anonymous No.10730681]

>>10726337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsdLDFtbdrA

[Anonymous No.10730768]

>>10726761
They did send in those men, and all of them survived passed the 2000s. Two are still alive, the other died due to heart failure likely unrelated to the radiation.