DONT STUDY STEM

[Anonymous No.10702891]

I am now 100% certain STEM is a fucking meme pushed by big corporations to drive down wages even lower, and there is no shortage of STEM graduates.


Business majors have more job opportunities
Better pay than most engineers (if you join any major banks etc. does not apply to smalltime managers but you'll move up eventually and get a better pay. plus you get paid overtime most of the time whereas engineers get paid a "salary" which means no overtime)
Banks/Large Firms offer private insurance on top of government one, so far even DAIMLER AG does not offer that to engineers.
Better job security. Its much harder to replace a manager than an engineer.

[Anonymous No.10702902]

>>10702891
This is true. I wish I had gone and studied some meme econ degree because being an engineer sucks and I'm too dumb for math.

[Anonymous No.10702908]

>>10702891
no shit, you dumb nigger
I was aware of this since 10 years ago

why do you think governments and big multinationals care about teaching kindergarten kids about C++ and quantum physics? do you think they do it out of kindness?

hahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahaha
bruh.....
BRUH...

[Anonymous No.10702909]

>>10702908
What did you study?

[Anonymous No.10702913]

>>10702891
bruh.... bruh.... BRUH............................................

it's econ 101

trivialize STEM, and then you're justified as a company or government to say "nigga, I'm gonna pay you peanuts, because every moron out there has a degree in Computer Science, and you can suck my dick and die in poverty, on the fucking street, if you dare to comlpain! what... what did you say you stupid fuck? that you should've known this 10 years ago when we started forcing kids to study C++ and quantum physics? nigga, it's too late, now pull down your pants and let me fuck that boy pussy this instant!"

[Anonymous No.10702915]

>>10702902
engineers not only have shittier pay, they also get shittier benefits, shittier job security (its much harder to replace people in finance than in engineering), and shittier work/life balance. engineers get constant problems and autistic projects

[Anonymous No.10702921]

>>10702915
Any pajeet on the street can replace engis my dude

[Anonymous No.10702922]

>>10702909
computer science
i have no trouble getting a job, but please be aware of this fact: every time someone mentions STEM in a public, popular culture kind of context he is contributing to the trivialization of STEM as a category of fields. He is willingly or (unwillingly, by being gullible morons and volunteering to idiotic shit like "teach kids who never saw pussy IRL about bremsstrahlung") partaking into the ass-fuckering of STEM graduates.

But desu if you aren't a moron this won't affect it to a large degree. It will, slightly, statistically speaking, since the entire field is affected. There are, in many situations, an over supply of PhD-level STEMfags. So, the trivialization is actually pretty strong right now, but not absolute. There's a chance.

[Anonymous No.10702930]

>>10702921
true
a hard working 4th worlder who is anxious to step into a city where people do NOT defecate on the street is going to memorize every fucking formula, theorem and algorithm out there and will destroy most idiots who get a STEM degree and hope that they can get a job by just sitting idly at their desk, not doing anything.

[Anonymous No.10702934]

>>10702922
>there is*
Sorry for the grammar mistakes and typos, I wrote that in a hurry.

[Anonymous No.10702950]

>>10702921
Not sure if you're memeing or not but this is basically true nowadays. Most engineers are just glorified CAD/CAE/IDE software operators.

[Anonymous No.10702957]

>>10702891
this post comes down to
>waaaaah i won't be wealthy
nobody who goes into math and science does it for the wealth or options. Literally, other than engineering students (who are their own brand of stupid), nobody ever went into stem for the money

[Anonymous No.10702962]

>>10702957
If you're not already a richfag, STEM offers some of the better career prospects. Not everybody has the IQ or the contacts required to work their way up the social ladder. STEM (used to) give you a set of marketable skills you could leverage to set yourself up for a better life, perhaps putting you on a track to management or executive positions. Nowadays it's not enough.

[Anonymous No.10702963]

Daily reminder that people who complain about their fields don't have the chops to be in the top 10% of their field. How many papers/patent authorships did you graduate with, OP?

[Anonymous No.10702965]

>>10702963
>top 10% of their field
What does this even mean in most cases? I'm certainly better at my job than at least 90% of my peers (at least in my area) but it's still a shitty field.

[Anonymous No.10702969]

>>10702965
It means other people than you or your parents were paying you to go to university, and you quickly gained trust and resources from peers and mentors in the field. If you are in academia, you could become a professor with your own lab, and if you are in industry, you are trusted with executing/supporting multimillion dollar projects.

[Anonymous No.10702973]

>>10702891
I know multiple business majors and I make more than all of them as a fucking technician.

[Anonymous No.10703018]

>>10702973
lies

[Anonymous No.10703028]

I like math. Do economists get to do fun math?

[Anonymous No.10703036]

>>10702891
Yes and no. I think STEM is a good degree, its just really over saturated.

At the entry-level, an someone with an engineering degree is the same level of replaceable as a business major.

A manger would be an upper level promotion, if an engineer becomes a licensed professional, they're incredibly difficult to replace, more so than a manager

[Anonymous No.10703038]

>>10703036
cope in 5 years market will be flooding with h1b to green card owner certified zhangs and pajeets

[Anonymous No.10703051]

>>10703028
only the really good ones

[Anonymous No.10703101]

Are you telling me you got a STEM degree for the paycheck not because you have a genuine interest in your field? How can you be smart enough to graduate but dumb enough to fall for that meme?

[Anonymous No.10703151]

>>10703101
>smart enough to graduate
Don't need to be all that smart in most STEM fields other than physics or math.

[Anonymous No.10703160]

>>10703101
This. Plus you'll be a more attractive potential employee if you're passionate about your field of study instead of only doing it for the money.

[Anonymous No.10703186]

>>10703101
No, he's telling you that he wasn't just stupid enough to pursue stem for money, he was also stupid enough to do so without researching the best return on investment fields with good job outlooks, like petroleum engineering.

[Anonymous No.10703202]

>>10702963
Daily reminder that if you have to be in the top 10% of your field to have a decent career, it's a shitty field.

[Anonymous No.10703214]

>>10702891
I'm not in it for the money, but thanks for your input anyway.

[Anonymous No.10703256]

>>10702891
what if i did a postgrad in bussiness after get my mechanical engineer degree desu

[Anonymous No.10703273]

>>10702962
This

[Anonymous No.10703314]

>>10702963
7

[Anonymous No.10703322]

Engineering has a 60% drop out rate and a 45% failing rate in exams (if it was an "easy" exam), most engineering students need more than 7 semesters and several tries, on average an engineering student has a 45 hour week, several friends of mine were forced to drop out in the 8th semester and you fucking assholes continue with the "HURR EVERY RETARD CAN DO ENGINEERING" while ALL statistics say the exact opposite.

Where the fuck did this meme even start.

[Anonymous No.10703323]

OP's post is true, no companies want to hire anyone from the bottom 90% of grads.

The trick is to be, or appear to be, in the top 10% of applicants.

It all comes down to a matter of marketing yourselves properly (plus a little raw talent and ambition and/or drive).

[Anonymous No.10703324]

>>10703322

> Engineering has a 60% drop out rate and a 45% failing rate in exams

that doesn't necessarily mean it's hard. It could also mean that the average undergrad is fucking dumb.

Actually, most people are fucking dumb. It just takes a while to realize that.

[Anonymous No.10703330]

>>10703324
How tf can you even know that you are dumb. There are people wanting to better their lifes and start studying it at 25, give their best, visit all lectures and tutors just to fail shortly before they are 30 and stand in front of their unrepairable broken in pieces.

Nature is unfair and rewards the lazy and punishes the ones that deserve more success.

[Anonymous No.10703331]

>>10702908

Teaching children how to program would hinder them

[Anonymous No.10703333]

>>10703330
unrepairable life*

[Anonymous No.10703336]

>>10703331
"program"

[Anonymous No.10703340]

>>10703330

Those that fail will learn the most important lesson of all, which is how to pick up the pieces and move on.

You wish there was a reward just for participating, but that's not how it works, nor how it should work.

I don't want my bridges and airplanes and medicines designed by morons that got handed a job just because they showed up to class.

[Anonymous No.10703355]

>>10702891
You study STEM out of passion for the field, not for money. It's a decent path if you just want to have a comfortable middle class lifestyle, but people who do it just because they hear of individuals making six figures in the first five years are going to be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.10703386]

>>10703323
bullshit it depends on supply and demand. there is more than enough supply which is why they want the top 10%. if there was demand then they couldn't afford to be so picky

>>10703322
from my experience its lecturers who is responsible for this. people who study engineering work in industries. the trashy retards who couldn't get a job join academia and torture students.

again the struggle is very hard thanks to lecturers and you get jackshit for earning the degree/title. you can make more money working for a simple bank with business degree.

>>10703355

maybe 5 people out of 200 i knew did it for passion. rest did it for money / hype. its not worth it. accountants earn more than engineers. rofl

[Anonymous No.10703395]

>>10703386

you don't sound very intelligent

[Anonymous No.10703399]

>>10703386
>accountants earn more than engineers

I wonder about that. The amount of math an engineer need to do basically proves that ALL engineers can do accounting, but NO accountants can do engineering. Why do you pay someone who is potentially worse than your average industrial engineer better. The engineer can do the same shit probably more efficient since his brain is trained to solve more complex problems.

[Anonymous No.10703413]

>>10703340
That doesn't matter that they are basically unemployable at that age despite never being lazy.

But try to sold that to the guy behind the desk, he expect an all go lucky 22 year old with a 4.0 bachelor degree in under 6 semesters and those guys exist in masses, since the way above average intelligent guys go into these fields, sleep their way through it and still have perfect gpas.

The guy who worked all his life to finally achieve his dream and become an engineer, just to fail in a relatively high age has nothing, his "lesson" is worth shit. Those are the people who kill themselves in their mid 30s to 40s, because they never got anything out of their effort, ever.

[Anonymous No.10703414]

>>10703413
this is why you niggers keep getting told to go into trades rather than waste your life trying to be something you are not

I got lucky to be born in a second world shithole which means I could take the 0 effort strategy despite not being very high IQ, but if I was a westerner I'd never bother.

[Anonymous No.10703416]

STEM people just need to come up with similar bullshit causes like feminists and blacks to get essentially unlimited government and donation funding for the below averages in that field. That's all there really is to that.

[Anonymous No.10703417]

>>10703399
accounting is about navigating tax laws and minimizing expenses, not the elementary school math involved.

[Anonymous No.10703419]

>>10703416
>flood the field and depress wages even further
you're clearly too dumb even for accounting

what STEM needs is a genocide of STEMniggers so that the survivors can reap the benefits.

[Anonymous No.10703423]

>>10703413
what country are you from, OP?

[Anonymous No.10703427]

>>10703416
climate change, overpopulation, etc

[Anonymous No.10703429]

>>10703414
Everyone gets told at that "Too dumb for uni" doesn't exist and you need just work hard enough and you pass.

But most people who get exmatriculated or fail more than twice aren't lazy, the lazy ones drop out after the first two semesters, the ones who really try and fail at the end are probably the ones who study more and harder than most students who pass.

Problem is conflicting information. Obviously IQ exists and is determined, but >90% of all hs teacher and uni professors don't believe in it and refuse to believe that hard working students who fail exist. But those are very common and those are the ones who kill themselves or become depressed alcoholics/drug addicts. Not the lazy students, they just fuck off to a trade where they get money for not doing anything, those who had a dream that get shattered - these are the losers in life.

[Anonymous No.10703433]

>>10703423
A European country, almost all countries in the EU have a very high difficulty in their unis. I know for example from a friend who studies in Trier (Germany) that the mechanical engineering class had several nearly 30 year old students who failed completely in the 10th or so semester and stood crying in front of the bureau hoping at least some of their results get acknowledged so their life isn't completely destroyed.

[Anonymous No.10703435]

>>10703429
I imagine this would've been me if I had gone into math or physics. Thankfully I went into mechanical engineering and can now do decently paid monkey work if my parents decide they've had enough of supporting my business ideas.

[Anonymous No.10703438]

>>10703433
hahaha dumb firstoids

[Anonymous No.10703440]

>>10703433
I'm from Europe and my physics degree was pretty easy. Are you sure you're just not dumb?

[Anonymous No.10703441]

>>10703440
if you're from commblock your degree was just piss easy.

[Anonymous No.10703443]

>>10703441
Scandinavia

[Anonymous No.10703450]

>>10703443
ah well I have no idea then

I do suspect that scandinavia suffers from the same thing we do here - the population is pretty low, the absolute number of high IQ individuals is pretty low so they can't afford to be quite as selective in STEM programs as overpopulated shitholes like Germany can. Consider that the demand for STEM people doesn't just scale with population, territory plays a role too. A sparsely populated country needs a greater number of STEM individuals per capita than a densely populated one.

[Anonymous No.10703456]

>>10703450
also not just territory, also the amount of resources and the size of the economy. Not to mention there is a considerable overhead of high IQ individuals in things like administration and defense that also contributes to the higher demand for professionals.

[Anonymous No.10703457]

>>10703450
I can't say I was too impressed with the german PhD student we had in my department

[Anonymous No.10703458]

>>10703386
>from my experience its lecturers who is responsible for this. people who study engineering work in industries. the trashy retards who couldn't get a job join academia and torture students.
lol wat... is this true?

[Anonymous No.10703463]

>>10703457
you don't need to compare him to yourself but to the average student where you live

also academic programs like physics can be quite different from professional programs like ME.

[Anonymous No.10703466]

>>10703458
why would you work a shitty paid job at a university if you can make big bucks in corpo world presumably doing what you like?

[Anonymous No.10703474]

>>10703429
>But those are very common and those are the ones who ...become depressed alcoholics/drug addicts.
that's me and I changed fields after being in this one for 10 years. It only took getting to this point to find out that employers only want absolute rockstars for there shitty startups . Doing better now and got over the addiction cause the horizon looks better now. Still come on /sci/ cause that's what i still am to a large extent .

[Anonymous No.10703476]

>>10703474
What field were you in? What were you trying to do?

[Anonymous No.10703477]

>>10703466
an old bastard at his 60s-70s would do it just to feel superior. They look for attention, not money. im in med and i've met a lot of them.

[Anonymous No.10703486]

>>10703474
>It only took getting to this point to find out that employers only want absolute rockstars for there shitty startups
You know what I like? When you see the same job posting get re-posted like 3 times in a row with a 1-2 months in between. You know why this happens? Because the company went through the selection process, found someone fantastic who can walk on water, made the offer to them, but they fuck off to a better opportunity. Then instead of dipping back into their candidate pool they re-post the job hoping to find another unicorn. Then they do, the same thing happens, and they repeat. Finally they get the idea that their shitty company doesn't deserve one and they scale down their expectations, after wasting a lot of people's time.

[Anonymous No.10703494]

>>10703476
science

[Anonymous No.10703655]

>>10702891
who the fuck gives a fuck about money? knowledge and progression of science is what its all about

[Anonymous No.10703702]

How does one get out of stem?
I dont even have a degree but I work in stem to pay the bills. Never loved science or math (or anything really) but went down the technical path because it was easy. Am I fucked in life or should I go get a business degree and work in capital equipment sales and just retire early?

[Anonymous No.10703713]

>>10702891
>I am now 100% certain STEM is a fucking meme pushed by big corporations to drive down wages even lower, and there is no shortage of STEM graduates.

You can always study both business and a STEM subject and get the best of both worlds you know. If you have the chops to do a mathematics or engineering degree then business courses will be piss easy for you.

t. doing just that

[Anonymous No.10703728]

>>10703028
Yes they do, though most econ majors go straight into industry. I'm in economics and statistics which essentially equates to econometrics and it's pretty fun. If you want to be an actual economist, like go the whole PhD route, you'll probably want to double major in econ and math though. Also learn Python, R, and Stata.

[Anonymous No.10703999]

>>10702902
>econ
>not STEM
>what is social science

[Anonymous No.10704276]

>>10703419
You are not reading that correctly. It means funneling government money into opening more vacant jobs in STEM. That would increase demand for STEM degree holders but not supply.

>>10703427
Climate change is the best example of this, yup. It's huge business, too bad STEMs failed to funnel money into their own pockets on that, most go to the usual bullshitters.

[Anonymous No.10704282]

I work in medical device. I just had 2 offers for $130k with less than 1 year experience.

My degree is in chemical engineering. No degree is going to guarantee you a good job, it's not the 80's anymore. Be social, jump on opportunities and don't be a fucking autist and you'll do well even with a fucking psych degree.

[Anonymous No.10704292]

>>10703655
cope

[Anonymous No.10704304]

>STEM is a fucking meme pushed by big corporations to drive down wages even lower, and there is no shortage of STEM graduates
Pretty much.
>work with cs education people
>they want cs taught as young as possible
>if i had an idea on how to teach it prenatally they'd be all over me
>point out "hey, isn't trying to have everyone leave high school able to work lower level cs jobs going to fuck over everyone in the field except the billionaires who own tech companies and want cheaper labor?"
>get told there's too many cs jobs open right now so it will always be expanding forever with higher and higher salaries
These people I work with are really just useful idiots for industry. Fortunately, they're accidentally sabotaging things because they don't really care about education unless the grant says they have to.

[Anonymous No.10704476]

drive down wages

[Anonymous No.10704603]

>>10704304
God I remember this reddit post about a professor warning about how incompetent cs employees are and I think that will lead the doom to technology

[Anonymous No.10704771]

>>10704603
>God I remember this reddit post

[Anonymous No.10704911]

>>10704304

[Anonymous No.10704913]

>>10703413


>>10703413
At my university if you could do that you were cheating. The kids who could without got into ivy league grad programs. I was in a very competitive school in the ivy league

[Anonymous No.10704963]

>>10704913
it doesnt matter
shitty school accountants after they get certified(4-5 years) make more than ivy league engineers

[Anonymous No.10704974]

ITT

Muh Money
Muh consumerism
Muh Money beyond the ability to meet my basic needs is important

[Anonymous No.10704980]

>>10704974
>I want to be mr goldbergstein's slave for the rest of my days
When you have enough money to meet your lifetime needs several times over you are free.

[Anonymous No.10704985]

>>10704980
If you win the rate race you're still a rat

To each his own, but nobody ever got rich working for somebody else. In that case all education is useless and you should start a business.

[Anonymous No.10705041]

>>10702934
>I wrote that in a hurry.
Calm down, man

[Anonymous No.10705052]

>>10702891
>t.capitalis pig
you mean working in small cubes while getting milked by corporations and getting suicidal thoughts because you'll get paid less than a sewer cleaner

even if you don't end up killing yourself, you'll live in a misery for 40 years waiting for "That day", and you realise that you missed your opportunity to do something in life because you were afraid that you will not find a job.

[Anonymous No.10705069]

>>10703330
So, if you were a 26 year old going to school for 4 years, what would you take?

[Anonymous No.10705078]

>>10702891
Business majors are some of the dumbest people. The only worthwhile major is accounting. Trading and finance firms hire engineers over finance majors because most of the relevant finance theory can be picked up and self-taught pretty quickly.

Engineers can do almost all the jobs of business majors with maybe the exception of accountants. Although they can pick it up rather quickly.

>>10702902
Economics has some of the worst employment prospects.

[Anonymous No.10705081]

>>10705052
Exactly business majors (I have finance majors because meme majors like business adminstration and management have abysmal employment rates) get paid peanuts for working long hours and have to commute deep into the city. The only high paid business majors are those with connections.

[Anonymous No.10705083]

>>10703429
What if my dream is to create technology. An Electrical Engineering degree would assist me in that endeavor. I have already faced many obstacles to reach this point. So what if I get 90%, and fail. I will have gotten what I need to do my own thing.

[Anonymous No.10705086]

>>10704985
>nobody ever got rich working for somebody else.
True. You will need to start a business at some point to succeed in life.

[Anonymous No.10705089]

>>10705083
How will you do your thing, exactly? You won't just magically be handed a lead R&D position.

[Anonymous No.10705105]

>>10704985
>>10705086
So retarded. Most businesses fail. Working for someone is the best bet to making it in the upper middle class. If you save and live frugally you can retire by the time you're 40.

[Anonymous No.10705109]

>>10705105
If you fail your business you can just go back to working as an engineer, retard. Try again later with a new idea.

[Anonymous No.10705111]

>>10705109
Hahaha not if you take out a business loan. I am talking an actual business not some e commerce site selling phone cases.

[Anonymous No.10705113]

>>10705111
>what are LLCs
you are not personally responsible for the liabilities of a business that failed in most civilized countries.

[Anonymous No.10705134]

>>10702891
like others have said, you do STEM for passion not money. But if you want money you can go work for banks, you will not do engineering but you will be paid a lot more.

In spain Engineers are prefered over economists and business goys for bank jobs.

STEM jobs dont pay much but STEM graduates are very respected outside their fields and can earn more.

[Anonymous No.10705146]

>>10705134
People who say you do it for the passion are retarded basedboy nerds.

Money is very important but they don't realize it because they're low sexual value betas.

[Anonymous No.10705154]

>>10703458
About 80% are like that and the rest 20% is doing it out of passion.

[Anonymous No.10705211]

>>10705078
>>10705081

cope. idk what cracKKKa country you are from but in europe and asia engineers get paid less. in USA it depends, still most people earn more than engineers

>>10705134

engineers working for banks is a meme. just like STEMtards making good money (most stemtards make less than plumbers rofl)

[Anonymous No.10705249]

>>10703466
Better hours, and some universities have lecturers as just a level of non-tenure track faculty (for non-PhDs), so you can still do research projects.

[Anonymous No.10705268]

>>10705078
Regarding economics and career prospects, it really depends on which university you go to. Go to a mediocre/shit uni, you're fucked but otherwise there's a good bit of money to be made if you know where to look.

[Anonymous No.10705275]

>>10705268
Also meant to add that it's wise to double major if you do the econ route, economics + other quantitative degree is good shit.

[Anonymous No.10705278]

>>10705211
>but in europe and asia engineers get paid less
who the fuck told you that? in France they are paid much better than people in business

[Anonymous No.10705281]

>>10702963
>90% unemployment rate
nice

[Anonymous No.10705285]

I make 40k/yr as a tech and I haven’t even graduated yet.
Girlfriend just got hired on for 65k+ and she hasn’t completed her masters yet.
What the fuck do you people do that doesn’t compensate you, or is it a case of living in the urban sprawl where rent it $2k for a shared room?

[Anonymous No.10705287]

>>10703655
t. has never had to put bread on the table

[Anonymous No.10705290]

>>10702891
heh, nothin personnel kid

[Anonymous No.10705413]

>>10702891
>Business majors

kek

[Anonymous No.10706180]

>>10705413
looks comfy desu

[Anonymous No.10706206]

>>10705211

> engineers working for banks is a meme.

I am a engineer working in finance. 115K with zero years of experience (the upper limit for people in my position is about 3x that).

Not saying this is more than anecdotal evidence, just saying.

[Anonymous No.10706530]

>>10702891
But is it fun? No.

Best business people I've met were engineers with some economic background as a side. These guy know what they're doing in contrast to econ psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.10706600]

>>10703655
Lol what a faggot

[Anonymous No.10706634]

The Virgin STEM grad vs the Chad Business major
It all makes sense

[Anonymous No.10706669]

Literally all of the dumbest people at my school are business majors who think they're gonna be the next wolf of wall street when they get out. If you wanna spend your life in a shitty office grinding for cash with no passion for your work then sure, business is for you I guess. I personally wouldn't feel fulfilled

[Anonymous No.10706682]

>>10706669
Replace "Wolf of Wallstreet" with "Elon Musk" and you just described 90% of engineering students.

[Anonymous No.10706957]

>>10706682
A good amount of freshmen and definitely the ones who go on to get MBAs think like that, but I'd say the majority just like science 'n shit.

[Anonymous No.10707312]

>>10706957
Nope majority are Zhangs and pajeets whose parents force them to become doctor or engineers

[Anonymous No.10707316]

>>10702891
>I am now 100% certain STEM is a fucking meme pushed by big corporations to drive down wages even lower, and there is no shortage of STEM graduates.

yep, this is true. i majored in engineering and could only find shitty jobs that weren't worth the pay.

went back to school for business and now have a high paying job as a manager

[Anonymous No.10707374]

the biggest meme of them all is CS. tons of cheap pajeets are being imported and taking CS jobs for low wages

hell, many of the jobs are going overseas since the company doesn't need 3rd world workers onsite.

[Anonymous No.10707681]

i will make enough so i dont really care, too autistic for business shit t.b.h

[Anonymous No.10708630]

>>10707374
its going to be over soon for CStards
>>10707316
based

even if the base pay is somewhat ok no overtime means you'll be working your ass off and earning less than a fucking welder sometimes :D

[Anonymous No.10709035]

Ignoring the OP, it's interesting how similar >>>/lit/13257149 is to this thread. I know /sci/ and /lit/ share a lot of posters but both boards seem to be redpilled about STEM being a meme unless you're genuinely passionate for it.

[Anonymous No.10709102]

I’m an Accounting major and I’m still afraid of not getting a job. Theoretically I might be able to start as a Staff Accountant even if I never get an internship, but the fear is in me. I picked the major with the most jobs that also pays well.

[Anonymous No.10709730]

>>10702902
Engineering is a great undergrad to combine with an MBA or JD though. Just look at the salaries that say, patent attorneys can get on average compared to most other people with law school educations. And electrical and petroleum engineeing pay a ton if all you care about is money, not to mention that it's more fulfilling work than other jobs.
If anything its business that is oversaturated. Tons of bachelors who get shitty, low paying jobs

[Anonymous No.10710520]

>>10702891
Originally I was a chem major because I was good at chem and absolutely loved the subject. Then I saw how miserable most grad students were and how 90% of PhD holders would never amount to anything and even fewer would manage to live above poverty.

I switched to chemE because I figured I could make a good living while also being apart of some cool innovative fields. Despite my good GPA only people that offered me an internship was a fucking paper manufacturer in the middle of fucking nowhere. I looked around and found that most engineers were paid shit and given shit jobs, most of which wanted you to live at work and would consider you a lazy piece of shit if you didn't like the idea of working 60 hours a week in shitty conditions for shit pay.

I dropped out of my chemE program after my internship. I changed majors to compsci. Its boring as fuck but at least it will pay better and be 100x easier to find a job after school. Maybe I'll go into product management after a few years as a software dev. Go for an MBA after that, probably not since most MBAs are memes.

I have trouble motivating myself because I just wonder whats the point? I was young and foolish to think I'd go make my mark on the world. Best I can hope for is just a good job that pays well and lets me have enough free time to go have a family and spend quality time with them.

[Anonymous No.10710528]

I made this image the other day. I've been unemployed for a year, even though I have a year of experience and BS EE. I want to die every day.

[Anonymous No.10710535]

>>10703322
At my "university" more than half of a third-year class was caught cheating on the regular and they gave them a zero on a single homework and called it a day. In a mixed 400/500 level class I personally reported Graduate students handing papers back and forth during a midterm and they swept it under the rug. I said I'd hurt those students if I ever saw them again, and they called me in as a "person of concern". I got told by the program director that they let students cheat otherwise they don't bring in money. Kevin Burke, PhD, co-director of Undergraduate Electrical Engineering at SUNY University at Buffalo. I hate my degree and feel like it's worthless because of how much cheating I knew was going on.

[Anonymous No.10710544]

>>10709730
you can't JD on top of engineering in most of the world , you need law undergrad.
engineering is going to be even more oversatureted because of all the zhangs and pajeets flooding there.

most engineering jobs are going to get automated quicker than management jobs because 90% of engineering consists of CADmonkeying

[Anonymous No.10710549]

>>10710528
if you had studied business atleast you'd have found a job with shit pay(but atleast its an office job with AC, computer and internet. most engineers don't even get o have that rofl)

>>10710535
imagine growing up and realizing how much cheating there is in the real world rofl. rich people don't pay taxes at all

[Anonymous No.10710550]

>>10710528
60K in NY? rofl

[Anonymous No.10710552]

>>10710550
$60k is plenty. I was making $3200 net from $50k salary. It's not a lot for ten years of experience though.

>>10710549
Teachers openly said they designed work as "group work" so they could over-assign work and benefit students who had groups of friends to cheat off of. It fucking sucked. At my end project, it didn't even get to a prototype stage because the other three members of my group didn't do shit. I asked them to even just fucking fill out a presentation with information I already had written up and they got it literally backwards. Had to stop them in the middle of the presentation and correct them. Worst part is we got to choose what project we worked on, and the person in charge of reviewing us was the Dean of the EE program and didn't do jack shit about the situation.

[Anonymous No.10710558]

>>10710535
>I got told by the program director that they let students cheat otherwise they don't bring in money
that's... an oddly candid thing to say

[Anonymous No.10710605]

>>10710552
education is pointless you are just there to get a degree stop sperging, work life is even worse.

60k $ in NYC is fucking nothing fresh business graduates who work in shit jobs make more than that

[Anonymous No.10710735]

>>10710605
I'm not in NYC ya mung. The majority of people live outside of NYC

[Anonymous No.10710736]

>>10710735
job ad was from ny dum dum

[Anonymous No.10710782]

>>10702891
STEM, math & cs 2018
Job for a year now, bruh. Pays well and I just got my hair done. :D

[Anonymous No.10710783]

>>10710782
you'd work for a bowl of rice a day bitch idont trust whatever you say

[Anonymous No.10710789]

>>10710782
>adams apple
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.10710815]

>>10705290
Why are those pedo, boy lover symbols on them, anon? wtf

[Anonymous No.10710819]

>>10710783
kek

[Anonymous No.10710873]

>>10710815
take your pills

[Anonymous No.10711219]

>>10710815
It's almost like that symbol pops up everywhere and doesn't mean anything.

[Anonymous No.10711232]

>>10702891
I am a programmer (is that considered stem field these days?). I am currently employed and the pay is ok however before,for a long time I used to do freelance and project work (finish project, get paid), the work hours were shit and pay also shit. I do this work because I like it even if its not easy or well paid. I have tried managerial roles with good prospects and absolutely hated it. Saying something like dont do x, do y, because the pay is better is stupid, if a person enjoys a subject or a specific field then doing something unrelated that he doesnt even like is stupid.

[Anonymous No.10711967]

>>10706682
Wolf of Wall Street and Musk are gay as shit. I'm in pharmacy and gonna be the next Shkreli.

[Anonymous No.10712036]

I'm going to work a minwage job to help my mother pay bills for about a year, then I'm going to trade school to become and electrician.

[Anonymous No.10712047]

>>10711967
Have fun working at a grocery store lmfao.

[Anonymous No.10712070]

>>10711232
you can't enjoy wageslavery
>>10712036
based

[Anonymous No.10712128]

>>10703999
Economics is normally a B.A. You only get a B.S. if you study Econometrics, which is a separate discipline.

[Anonymous No.10712220]

>>10711232
Probably better paid than eng though. Where do you live and how much do you make?

[Anonymous No.10712255]

>>10706206
Finance does recruit engs and does pay well, but the flip side is its ultra competitive to get in and you need to be a work alcoholic type. They are paying you well partly because you are working 60 hours a week.

[Anonymous No.10712273]

>>10704282
100% calling bullshit. LITERALLY the only way you would EVER make that much money in medical devices is if you were a very senior role.

[Anonymous No.10712278]

>>10712255
But I'm not. It's actually super relaxed compared to e.g. a consulting gig. Everyone on my team puts in a normal work week and the hours are pretty flexible (it almost feels like I'm back doing my PhD again)

[Anonymous No.10712299]

>>10712278
Not him, I'm >>10710520
I debated about sticking with my chemE degree to try and get into finance but my school is an extremely average state school and not targeted for fields like that. I figured after getting into pdt mangement for cs, maybe getting an mba i could try out finance.

How many hours a week do you work? Whats your pay like? How did you break into it? Did you finish your PhD, is that how you stood out from the crowd?

[Anonymous No.10712302]

>>10712047
Six figure starting, any grocery, drugstore, hospital, or clinic I want

[Anonymous No.10712305]

>ITT: Insecure undergrads + low-energy doomers buying in to the more subtle "STEM is a meme" meme.

Meet Christopher Bishop, Research Director and Machine Learning Scientist who's had 0 CS academics but has a Ph.d in Particle Physics with publications.

I managed to get a job as an estimator with a CS degree and 0 experience at a decent salary (focus on mathematical sciences, I wasn't a fag who moped about calculus) and am doing fine.


It's all about who you know, and what you can do, i.e. network with and TALK to people, and then prove you have the skills. Someone will take you if you keep at it, and go beyond just sending half-assed resumes on Indeed once a week.

[Anonymous No.10712331]

>>10712302
>anywhere you want
I guarantee you are an undergrad that hasn't started pharm school yet. Everyone here think engineering is oversaturated? Pharmacy is incredibly oversaturated. There's plenty of fully licensed people that struggle to find jobs and if they do manage to find one, its out in the middle of fucking nowhere.

[Anonymous No.10712333]

>>10712305
based Bishop

[Anonymous No.10712341]

>studying anything for the money

[Anonymous No.10712343]

>>10712331
i guess counting pills isn't a rare talent huh?

[Anonymous No.10712346]

>>10712299

37.5 hours/ week

115K starting with benefits

I published 7 first author papers during my PhD, and while none of them are related to finance, they all involve statistics, optimization and modelling.

Finally and most importantly, I'm personable and I don't get nervous in front of a whiteboard during technical interviews.

[Anonymous No.10712376]

If you have an engineering degree plenty of banks will hire you. If you have a degree in finance a bank might hire you, but you'll have a hard time getting a job as an engineer.

The lucrative finance positions are extremely competitive, and so unless you're going to an ivy league and maintaining a high GPA while having supreme networking skills you're going to end up with a sub 6 figure salary anyway.

[Anonymous No.10712379]

>>10712343
it's more that pharmacy is a relatively stable market. There's not alot of growth but there's also not a lot of decline for pharmacist jobs. The issue is that there's been an absurd amount of new pharmacy schools opening up and older pharmacy schools lowering the bar of admission. So now instead of having 50-100 people go after that one job, you have 1000s of people go after that one job.

The only reason why anyone should go into pharmacy is if they already do pharmacy tech work (doesn't require a degree) so they have some connections and experience. It's a cutthroat industry. Back when I was heavily considering pharm school I sat down with plenty of people that told me horror stories of people working at X for quite a few years, and then being axed out of the blue so they could put in a younger cheaper pharmacist.

>>10712346
I'm relatively personable. I have zero quarrel with standing up in front of people and talking. I still wonder though if I made it harder for myself to break into finance with my cs/pdt management route vs sticking with my chemE degree.

[Anonymous No.10712386]

>>10711967
Shkreli's education is finance though. He's a business man who took an interest in pharmaceuticals. Not a pharmacist.

[Anonymous No.10712389]

>>10712386
this. He's a wallstreet person. You think shkreli had any input in drug development? No he didn't know shit about that. He knew how to handle finances. He could have done the exact same thing in fucking any field.

[Anonymous No.10712457]

>>10702891
>Business majors have more job opportunities

Applied Math, Computer Science, Statistics, Actuarial Science majors can do anything a business or econ major can do but better

[Anonymous No.10712524]

>>10712389

He's not even a good wall street guy to emulate. There are plenty of ex analysts, hedge fund managers, etc who went on to do interesting things whose paths didn't end in a prison sentence.

[Anonymous No.10712683]

>>10703413
>But try to sold that to the guy behind the desk, he expect an all go lucky 22 year old with a 4.0 bachelor degree in under 6 semesters and those guys exist in masses, since the way above average intelligent guys go into these fields, sleep their way through it and still have perfect gpas.

Hey, 33yo boomer getting his bachelor's in ME right now. I'm a 4.0 student through being a try hard, don't like calculus much, and don't pick up on math as quick as some kids who can do vector in their heads.

Here's the thing, the problem with those kinds of kids is they're lazy, their work is unprofessional, their creativity is non existent, and their social skills are stunted. I've seen kids that can chew through math but don't know how to write a fucking sentence coherently. They can remember a formula, but ask them to design anything with spatial cohesion and their work looks like trash. Forget putting them in charge of a complex project because they have zero organizational method or discipline. They are too busy eye fucking their phones to be anything resembling a leader or a manager.

My physics professor has told me I have the cleanest and most concise homework of any student he's ever met through teaching or getting his doctorate. I told him I want to get into ME design work and be said do it, because he can't even read the work of most engineering students. I'm just passing GD&T right now and the machinists and the engineering students in that class have no idea what they're doing after 3 months, I'm one of two people in there that understand ASME1/2 in actual application.

Not everything is number crunching autism. Strengths and weaknesses. Fuck left brain autistic millennials, they're a dim a dozen and I'm going to end up being their manager just like every group project they put us in at school.

[Anonymous No.10712805]

>>10712331
Got into a top ten, the exam is extremely easy, anyone on this board wouldn't have trouble getting into a top program. It's saturated in many areas but since IT fags are in demand and the majority of health workers don't know math and think coding is Sumerian clay text IT pharmacy is ripe along with non pharmacy management positions.

[Anonymous No.10712809]

>>10703324
Ahh, the good ol’ “Everyone else is a fucking retard besides me” meme.
Hope high school is treating you well bud.

[Anonymous No.10712818]

>>10712809
I am a literal Athena amongst mortals, I only work at McDonald's because man is too arrogant to accept my wisdom.

[Anonymous No.10712833]

>>10702891
Nice try Rajesh, but you are just working at a start-up, you are never going to be the next Steve Jobs. Sage.

[Anonymous No.10713190]

>>10710544
isnt CAD super popular with mechanicals? I think they're the ones that will suffer the most when this happens.

Theres a lot of money to be made in engineering management as well and less engineering work, if any desu. Patent attorney's earn so much fucking money, but you have to get accepted to law school which I hear is kinda tough and the name matters a lot.

I personally wouldn't go business or economics. Those fields are super saturated and you have to go to a top tier school to get a nod as well. With engineering in the US, you just need to go to an ABET accredited school and put in your work to get an internship while in school. After your first job, nobody gives a fuck about your school or your GPA, but more about what you can do for the company. A lot of people will say you have to go to a top 50 school and they make good points, but going to those schools isn't about what they teach you but more so about the networking opportunities.

[Anonymous No.10713239]

>>10713190
>Patent attorney
my first (and only) gf's dad is a patent attorney. He makes an absurd amount of money (It's been a long time since I've talked to him so I'm guessing its somewhere between 250k-300k by now) but it's also the most mind bogglingly numbing work. He's also never home. Works all the fucking time. Its a trade off, ideal job for the person who only cares about about how big the number is on their paycheck and is willing to sacrifice almost everything to get it.

[Anonymous No.10713252]

>>10712683
Solid post.

[Anonymous No.10713282]

>>10702891
Doesn’t seem like it

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/pdf/coe_sbc.pdf

[Anonymous No.10713293]

>>10712683
Is this a pasta?

[Anonymous No.10713319]

>>10713282
That seems like a pretty low number for CS. they must also be including jobs that don't require degrees like low end IT work

[Anonymous No.10713383]

>>10712809
I'm 38 with 2 kids, a PhD, and a career in a lucrative field.

I graduated from highschool in 1999

[Anonymous No.10713516]

>>10710782
University of Houston?

[Anonymous No.10713565]

>>10705089
he could do it all by himself, dumbass

[Anonymous No.10713573]

>>10712683
Bullshit. I'm friends with a few people I know who study 10 hours a week a month prior (sounds low, but you know as good as me that you can't study more than 4 hours in normal lecture weeks due to projects and homeworks) and they fail or barely pass. I myself belong to that group.

It's all about IQ and this is determined.

[Anonymous No.10713700]

>>10702891
>studies some random fucking obscure side of STEM
>probably wants to go into some form of fundamental research
>wonders why the money is shit
Shut the fuck up and get an industry position Anon.

[Sage No.10713874]

>>10712273
Idk, I'm a technician for a capital equipment supplier for medical devices manufacturing and I'm making 80k USD anually with no degree. 130k doesnt seem a stretch for a proper engineer.

[Anonymous No.10713901]

Business, econ and management majors only get you a high paying job if you already had a high paying job waiting for you before you even picked your major, ie, they're majors for people who only need a major because their daddies don't want to have someone without a degree running the company. Humanities majors are economically useless.

[Anonymous No.10714188]

>>10712273
I don't have the updated offer letter on my email but it shook out at $130k. As it stands, you've gotta put less stock in your degree and more stock into your ability to learn the job

[Anonymous No.10715043]

>>10714188
Mind if I ask you a couple questions?

1. where do you live?
2. did you go to prestigious school?
3. what's your role, job title? I'm assuming you aren't in R&D and in something like process development.
4. how in the fuck did you make it to the 120k range? everyone of my fellow chemE peers that went in medical devices is stuck in the 60-90k range

[Anonymous No.10715047]

>>10711967
Enjoy your lawfare faggot.

[Anonymous No.10715138]

Philosophy majors do pretty well.
Critical thinking is nice.

[Anonymous No.10715155]

>>10703655
this

[Anonymous No.10715177]

>>10705287
>eating carbs

[Anonymous No.10715242]

>>10715043
1. NorCal
2. Went to a shitty SUNY school
3. The interface between engineering and clinicians for this specific company. Gotta be relatively smart and relatively likeable
4. Just jumped from $80k to this. I am passionate about this field (medical imaging) and nobody asked me what I made at my old job.

Don't worry though, I still feel like I don't know any skills and I just lucked into this position. Hopefully the imposter syndrome will go away.

[Anonymous No.10715245]

>>10715242
did you have any relevant experience to the job?

[Anonymous No.10715247]

>>10715242
also, I just looked up jobs in norcal for medical device engineer and most dont hit the 130k figure. Thats insane dude!

[Anonymous No.10715257]

>>10715247
I got very lucky. I'm finally making above median wage for where I live :')


>>10715245
Old job was in neurosurgery tech so I had about 9 months of time in ORs so I wasn't completely new to medical imaging. My degree is not being utilized too much honestly.

My take home advice: if you do STEM, make sure you look like you're smart on paper. My engineering degree is only being used insofar as I can prove that I survived a difficult major.

[Anonymous No.10715369]

>>10715257
how did you find this job? online or through people?

[Anonymous No.10715407]

Fuck jobs. It's all slavery if it's forced upon you, that's why I believe in Universal Basic Income and support Andrew Yang for president.

[Anonymous No.10715446]

>>10715407
Based desu. I’m there with you. Life is so miserable and filled with suffering no matter what. Why the FUCK would you just wanna double down on it for some spouts of pleasure and security which will come with some hefty trade-offs. You gotta go all out and get a bang for your buck by doing what fulfills the soul and mind. I guess some people just love money that much. It’s just an object. You only need enough to ensure your basic needs and for an emergency.

[Anonymous No.10716067]

fuck wageslavery

[Anonymous No.10716090]

>>10714188
holy shit, can't imagine getting an email like that from making 80k a year without having gotten an additional degree or something. Well done, enjoy

[Anonymous No.10716104]

>>10702891
Or maybe business majors get more jobs because they aren't socially inept? Think that might be it? No, because you're dumb as fuck and that's also why you're unemployed. FUCK me

[Anonymous No.10718227]

>>10712278
>>10712346
Do you have any advice on how to get into your line of work? I'm a CS student and while I'm ok with doing dev stuff for shorterm, its not something I wanna do forever. Your line of work was something that seemed like a good option to jumpship to eventually.

[Anonymous No.10719187]

>>10703655
Nah thats pretty shit. Thats why I focus on making money through stocks and options, fast easy money, so I can spend the rest of my day researching and building whatever I want. I don't want to end up broke like Tesla and have no money to implement my ideas.

[Anonymous No.10719206]

>>10702891

If you haven't learned this by now, here you go. Everything is a meme.

[Anonymous No.10719524]

>>10702891

You do not become a manager after graduation.

[Anonymous No.10719635]

>>10718227

honestly?

contacts.

you gotta know people who know people who pay smart people money to make them even more money.

then you gotta convince these aforementioned people that you are one of those smart people they are looking for.

[Anonymous No.10719679]

>>10703322
arts majors butthurt

[Anonymous No.10720136]

>tfw I studied Chemistry
Science is a meme. It's wonderful to study but awful to work in. I decided against my PhD at the last minute after seeing all the miserable PhDs/Post Docs working insane hours for crumbs. No where to grow with the glut of PhDs especially outside the US (am Canadian)
Got hired out of university for 2 whole dollars above minimum wage working grave yard 12 hour shifts doing something a highschool drop out could do

I quit last year and started doing CS at a technical college. Got hired after 1 semester as a junior develop lmao Why the fuck do our schools push science as a good career path?

[Anonymous No.10720185]

>>10720136
>Why the fuck do our schools push science as a good career path?
it's a meme from a decade ago that is slowly dying out due to complaints by people like you and me.

[Anonymous No.10720707]

>>10702963
DIE FOR TENURE DIE FOR TENURE DIE FOR TENURE

[Anonymous No.10720729]

>>10714188
Medical device sales?b2b? Salesmen are the only ones I know who make that kind of money.

[Anonymous No.10720744]

>>10719679
Arts majors are making six figures off of fetish commissions and post docs are getting paid Mcwages if they get get a position at all. Outside of translational cs research, science is dead for finances.

[Anonymous No.10720809]

>>10703429
>, they just fuck off to a trade where they get money for not doing anything,
pretty sure that is not how a trade works, but
else you said is very right.
>>10720136
>>10702891
business majors are fucked too

[Anonymous No.10720839]

>>10720136
Pure sciences have never been lucrative. Normalfags just like to lump it in with T, E, and M because to them it's all the same.

[Anonymous No.10720861]

>>10702891

I work in (second-tier) EU country for automotive Tier 1 supplier since 2 years. I have to say, engineering was a fucking mistake. It's not even about industry being stark different than academia - at the end of the day, every specialist expects to be paid hansomely for good work. This doesn't work for engineering since engineers are bottom bitches, overworked with shit pay since most HR says you need "experience" and they are thinking working as engineer is reward in itself. Field populated by "passion" people willing to work for peanuts just to have possibility to make CAE simulations or work on aerospace on fucking turbine blades or other shit whole their life.

It's a fucking joke. The only window of opportunity is going into project management, but it's shitty in its own way.

[Anonymous No.10720946]

>>10705290
Oh dear fuck that signature. Mine isn't great either but god fucking damn.

[Anonymous No.10720988]

>>10703038
Am pajeet. I'll be trying to emigrate to the 1st world for a comfy job in biotech by 2025

[Anonymous No.10721483]

>>10703322
This. Engineering isn't the hardest of disciplines (science is harder) but it takes a lot of dedication for the average person. I work 45 hours a week and had to drop out because I realized I wasn't going to make it until I turned 40, and that is without having a life whatsoever. For a fulltime working person a technologist course makes more sense.
>>10703324
At most your post means that difficulty is very relative. But by definition, if something is hard for most people, then it is considered hard, period.
It is like saying a country is treating well their population because 5% of them live decent lives while the rest are starving. No. The country is still 3rd world if most people are poor, that's what Americans don't get.

[Anonymous No.10721490]

>>10705069
I am 26 and engineering here is 5 years. If I didn't have to work fulltime, I would take EE or Aerospace (though Aerospace isn't available where I live, but as this is just hypothetical).

[Anonymous No.10721494]

>>10705146
t. normalfag

[Anonymous No.10721499]

>>10707374
>tons of cheap pajeets are being imported and taking CS jobs for low wages
Code monkey jobs are not CS jobs.
CStards that are actually software """"engineers""""" got it coming if they are being replaced by pajeets. I mean, if you can be replaced by a pajeet, you are shit and don't deserve anything.

[Anonymous No.10721504]

I'm studying business but I'm very good at Python programming, I do a lot of shit like automation scripts and web bots. Is there a way to make good money with my skills or am I fucked ?

[Anonymous No.10722004]

>>10720729
I guess I kind of do sales. Sales people are big dummy with tech but are good with connections. Engineers are great with tech and autistic. I'm somewhere in the middle where I'm proficient with tech and personable enough to explain it to radiologists/surgeons without making them feel dumb.

[Anonymous No.10722014]

>>10703728
Tell me your ways, what did you do to get into the industry?

[Anonymous No.10722043]

>>10703655
dumbass
you can love science all you want, but that isn't going to feed you or your family
you still have to provide something of value in order to pay for your existence
and no, everything can't be free in some impossible commie wonderland, for the simple fact that everything that one needs to survive and have a good standard of living needs to be produced by someone else, who also wants the very same for themselves

[Anonymous No.10722044]

>>10704603
OUT OUT OUT

[Anonymous No.10722187]

>>10721504
We're all fucked man.

If you live in the West then you live in a moribund society and all this running around chasing degrees is pure COPE. You ever wonder why nostalgic imagery is everywhere around you? Why most people seem unable to become full adults?

It's because it's fucking over. China and India are inheriting the earth, you are surplus to requirements. The coming Han world hegemony has no use for you.

[Anonymous No.10722872]

>>10720839
STEMM has been catching on lately. The last M and clearly the only relevant one in the group being Medicine.

[Anonymous No.10723139]

>>10703655
all these bootlicking, moneychasing capitalists replying lol

[Anonymous No.10723249]

Can the commies fuck off back to /leftypol/ please and thank you

[Anonymous No.10723650]

>>10722187
zhangs are going to have a civil war in 10 years, indians will never accomplish anything

prices of everything will go up due to turmoil in china and western hegemony will continue

[Anonymous No.10723668]

>>10702973
This is actually the truth. You have to know the STEM field (IT/COMPSCI for me) to actually make it work.
Both parents high level management.
I realized that I can really have an incredible life making even 70,000 living alone. But.. I have much bigger plans.

[Anonymous No.10723675]

>>10720136
You gotta be a generalist. Know little bit of econ, finance, etc.
You gotta study money alittle bit to, anon.

[Anonymous No.10724051]

>>10723668
cope

[Anonymous No.10724101]

>>10703399
This idiot thinks that everything revolves around math

[Anonymous No.10724114]

>>10712683
29 here doing something similar. Sounds like you have it figured out man. Good luck

[Anonymous No.10724120]

>>10702891
>a fucking meme
Lrn2meme fgt pls

[Anonymous No.10724125]

>>10702891
>do both
>buissines majors are easy as shit hahaha
>major in business/stem + minor in business/stem

[Anonymous No.10724367]

>>10723650
This isn't good either.

We need to hit the reset button aaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.10724451]

>>10712683

> dim a dozen

how concise..