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Does /sci/ support eugenics? Why or why not?

Personally, I feel like Eugenics is the best option for humankind right now. Just think about what humanity could achieve if we could process language and math faster. When IQ increases, language evolves. It's like comparing somali to latin. Also, people who are better at math are usually more "civilized," ever notice that? Now I am talking about eugenics for IQ but it is necessary that we keep genetic diversity to a maximum to not cause more birth defects later on. Eugenics should be voluntary but I think we should pay smart people to have kids. Like if they score high on an IQ test and do well in school they should get paid $30k a year for each child they have. It should especially be for high IQ women because they generally have more of an effect on a child's IQ. Eugenics can also impact human behavior, if you have two reckless parents you usually have a reckless child. So why not two meek parents so they can have a meek child? Think about it.

>> No.10702618

>>10702612
Already been done in Singapore.

>> No.10702628

>>10702612
Eugenics, drugs, cyber implants, whatever you try you will never escape the brainletism you were born into. You'll still never be as smart as I am.

>> No.10702631

>>10702612
why not just legalize designer babies

>> No.10702636
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>>10702631
>be me, was designer baby born in 2024
>parents modified a whole 22 genes to try and make me smarter
>thought there was no off target effects
>now realize they screwed up DNA folding mechanisms and regulatory function in the non coding regions
>mfw 200 iq but won't live past getting my PhD.
>mfw expected class of 2038

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>another IQ thread

>> No.10702644

>>10702636
It's okay. People with that high IQs often can't handle the reality and die young anyway.

>> No.10702656

>>10702618
>singapore
Did what, exactly?

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>>10702612
The outside of the body is a mirror to the inside;
Eugenics are very logical, and anyone who don't like it is just in denial

>> No.10702763

>>10702618
>MM Lee condones marriage between smart people to produce smart babies
>smart people don’t make babies
>Malays make omega babies
>gahmen import 6 gorillion
>Successful (((eugenics))) project

>> No.10702852

>>10702636
You wouldn't trade your lifespan for 200IQ?

>> No.10702874

>>10702612
>when iq rises
What the fuck do you even mean by that average 100 for ever we just need to fuck poor people over and boom our iq rises

>> No.10702887

>>10702638
been a fan but don't get too trigger-happy
i almost wouldn't agree with posting this for this thread

>> No.10703487

>>10702612
Okay but is there a correlation between perceived and actual IQ? That would be something.

>> No.10703564

>>10702763
Islam is the chad religion.

>> No.10703623

You shouldn't need a eugenics program, just stop funding social programs and let poor people starve. Higher IQ and people who are functioning society members genes will pass on while dumb people die off.

>> No.10703720

>>10702612
I want to selectively breed out people like OP who asks questions about eugenics

>> No.10703750

>>10702612
Yes we do!!!!

Honk Honk

>> No.10704082

>>10703623
That makes the average IQ go down, see: Philippines.

>> No.10704210

>>10703623
>Higher IQ and people who are functioning society members genes will pass on while dumb people die off.
I dunno. That might just reduce the population since rich people don't have many kids. They'll settle for one or two.

Eventually you have to import muslims

>> No.10704321

>>10702612
I also support eugenics, however I wouldn't do it for IQ, but rather for income, which correlates with IQ and is already being measured by the IRS.

Higher income = higher tax revenue. We could tax the top bracket at a VERY high rate, but give them a small break per child up to some cap, say 10 children. Given that income is somewhat heritable, if we incentivize everyone in the top tax bracket to have 10 children, then we will presumably grow the number of people in that bracket by at least a factor of 2 every year. This repeated doubling could quickly grow to a large population of very high IQ, high earning citizens, who could effectively fund a larger welfare state, or more tax breaks for the normal people, etc.

I also support eugenic measures against criminality. We could offer violent criminals an option of sterilization to reduce their prison sentence. On this one we would have to be more careful though, not to increase the original prison sentence to cruel amounts just to incentivize sterilization. We still ought to respect the criminal's reproductive autonomy.

>> No.10704343

>>10704321
Many criminals are chads that got a bunch of girls pregnant before they got arrested might actually have alot of kids. We need to track those kids and flag them as possible criminals. They should be taught otherwise and shit.

>> No.10704353

>>10704343
Yeah, you could even offer them free sterilization when they get older. Many of the males, at least, would jump at the opportunity to be able to have as much sex as they want without having to worry about paying child support.

>> No.10704362

>>10704353
Girls too because the genes get passed on either way. Violent criminal genes might mostly be expressed in males but girls carry them too.

>> No.10704365

>>10704362
I agree that it should be offered to the girls, but they don't have as much incentive to take it, as most of them want to have babies.

>> No.10704718

>>10702612
>>10702612
>>10702612
eugenics should be a thing, but why bother for IQ? Biology will be outpaced by machines soon enough. We should be working on augmenting the brain with technology to make us faster and more efficient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrofjEAetVs

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>>10702612
if I was going to guess who was smartest, I would guess left

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>>10702612
Lmao I look like the male version of the girl on the left. Fug

>> No.10704785

>>10702636
kek

>> No.10704998

The one furthest to the right seems most intelligent, until you realize that they have more face than brain.
The one furthest to the left seems to have a bigger frontal lobe than the others.

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There's no fucking way that any of the seeds planted by my enemy can grow to remind me about his crimes for the rest of my life. If their genes were uniquely important then I would have stopped him from poisoning them.

I'm going to be looking at this gross bulge on my foot for the rest of my life, and my fucked up collarbones, but there's no way I'm going to spend the rest of my life watching the cuck theater of Satan's children frolicking in my garden. That will never happen.

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>>10702636
>Modifying genes
>Not embryo selection
Crispr is a red herring for eugenics. It'll have clinical applications and niche reproductive uses for those who are homozygous for deleterious conditions, but modifying babies for increased anything is waste of time - you'll have to alter hundreds of SNPs to get any substantial changes.
Better to focus of creating many hundreds or thousands of eggs from stem cells, fertilising them and then screening them using polygenic risk scores. State of the art IQ increases with 10 embryos and current PRS gives you 2.5 extra IQ points. In the near future, with more embryos, this will be 10 IQ points. Well worth $15,000.
Further, eugenics can easily be carried out by sperm donation - 30-60 thousand babies are born by sperm donation in the US. Ideally every last one of them should be the child of a father with an IQ >130.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pno6Ir_nDAQ

>> No.10705108

>>10702612
>When IQ increases, language evolves. It's like comparing somali to latin.
Somali and latin are compatable in complexity. Africans have enormous verbal IQ if I may to /pol/ a bit.

>> No.10705116

>>10705108
So when Somalians take an English test, they're unable to perform as well as they would in their own language thus it looks like they're low IQ

>> No.10705135

>>10705116
Haha, yes, that must be it. So second generation immigrant Somalis will be tip top. Hohoho.

>> No.10705138

>>10705135
Well the girls are.
The males do worse than their parents because they feel excluded from society

>> No.10705153

>>10705138
Post data.
The only Africans that achieve close to natives are ones that are highly selected. Children of mass migrants and refugees are going to be permanent problems for the west.

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>>10705153
No data about Africans but there's data that the percentage of non-western (mostly muslims) people taking a university based education, is higher than regular whites.

>> No.10705200

>>10705172
WTF I want muslim immigrants in my country now